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Not me - I have common sense? Boy some would be surprised by that comment coming from you. - I am politicially correct walking and sucking the pickel of political correctness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis IV the Fat
Just another time I, 100% agree with Bush.Quote:
As far as I'm concerned Bush, in a-typical clear and concise phrasing, nailed it:
Honestly, I think this is much ado about nothing. If it hadn't been a controversial figure like Bennet that said this, I don't think it would even register a blip on the media radar.
Yup its just another excuse to attack conservatism.Quote:
Honestly, I think this is much ado about nothing. If it hadn't been a controversial figure like Bennet that said this, I don't think it would even register a blip on the media radar.
The basis of which claims abortion lowers crime. Thats what he was saying he doent believe.Quote:
Speaking of the statistics and study of the book.
Says you ~D He says even if it were true it would be wrong. What more do you want out of the man.Quote:
Which Mr. Bennett then begins to engage in hyperbole.
Because they do commit a proportionaly staggering amount of the crime and of abortions. Im sorry that they are the best example but thats not Bennets fault only the fact that he recognizes it. No where did he say or even infer that blacks conmmit the majority of crime as thats a false statement to begin with .Quote:
So why single out blacks? Lets see because possibily Mr. Bennett decides to show his arrogance in stating that its only blacks that committ the majority of crime. Well using Mr Bennetts logic.
Would he be wrong?Quote:
If my mother had aborted my older brother - crime statistics for whites would of been one lower - well actually more then that since he has been in and out of jail several times, If my wife had aborted her oldest son - crime statistics for whites would have been lower by several crimes
He never made one.Quote:
So that is suppose to get him off the pot for his arrogant and racially baised statement?
Again he said nothing wrong unless your hung up on PC. I guess you cant call a spade a spade nowdays without being attacked.Quote:
Oh yes he does say it - why do you think the problem with his statement is - its not from made up words that Mr. Bennett alledged to have stated - but what he actually stated.
Thats your opinion and you are intitled to it. I find the bias on the other foot including your own. Truly shocking.Quote:
Nope - Mr Bennett has shown himself to be an arrogant hoofed mammal's rear-end and racially baised wether that was is intent or not with his statements.
They are the ones claiming aborting the poor lowers crime. Tell me who in the US is proprtionaly the poorest and commits proportionaly the most crime? Dont rack your brain to hard now. Where is everyones outrage at suggesting we should abort the babies of the poor and of single mothers to reduce crime or avoid poverty?Quote:
Bring them on - maybe I will read their book and then become outrage at them for condemning the unborn before they have the chance to become the statistics that they claim. Or just maybe I won't give them a second thought because they are not worth considering in my opinion.
Not at all - its an examble of baised views based upon race.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
That is only part of what he stated.Quote:
The basis of which claims abortion lowers crime. Thats what he was saying he doent believe.
Obviousily he is an hoofed mammal's rear end with his arrogant comment - especially if one engages in that type of hyperbole.Quote:
Says you ~D He says even if it were true it would be wrong. What more do you want out of the man.
So is the allegory of blacks that he used - its a statement based upon racial baised views condemning a whole race of people before they are even born.Quote:
Because they do commit a proportionaly staggering amount of the crime and of abortions. Im sorry that they are the best example but thats not Bennets fault only the fact that he recognizes it. No where did he say or even infer that blacks conmmit the majority of crime as thats a false statement to begin with .
Yes - again he condemns a whole race of people before they are even breathing air.Quote:
Would he be wrong?
Sure he did - I recongized it for the racial baised statement that it was when I first heard it. Utter nonsense.Quote:
He never made one.
Nothing wrong other then condemn a whole race before the individuals are even born. His arguement and your defense of him states that he didn't mean it that way. Well frankly it doesn't matter how he intented it - the statement by itself on its face value is one of racial basis.Quote:
Again he said nothing wrong unless your hung up on PC. I guess you cant call a spade a spade nowdays without being attacked.
Well since I have had mandatory training on equal opporinuty and sexual harrassment - his intent means nothing - its the preception of the audience on wether the comments were racist or not. Shall I bring up all the black websites and leaders who are claiming that yes indeed Mr. Bennetts comments smack of racial bias? Its not hard to find - several moderate black leaders are also upset with his comments because it smacks of racial bias on its face value, regardless of his intent or meaning.Quote:
Thats your opinion and you are intitled to it. I find the bias on the other foot including your own. Truly shocking.
If the knuckleheads who wrote the book came near me with their comments I would give them the same what-for for their equally class baised comments - verus racial comments that Mr. Bennett made. Excusing one persons bad behavior because of another persons bad behavior smacks of well political correctness gone wrong - or liberialism gone extremely wrong.Quote:
They are the ones claiming aborting the poor lowers crime. Tell me who in the US is proprtionaly the poorest and commits proportionaly the most crime? Dont rack your brain to hard now. Where is everyones outrage at suggesting we should abort the babies of the poor and of single mothers to reduce crime or avoid poverty?
Have you now become a liberial since I am now politicial correct?
I think it's quite clear. Let's look at the radio conversation, shall we?
Freakonomics launched a theory that one reason crime went down the last decades is the legalisation of abortion. Bennett doesn't agree with this, because "there's to much that you don't know", understandable because there are many other factors involved.Quote:
BENNETT: All right, well, I mean, I just don't know. I would not argue for the pro-life position based on this, because you don't know. I mean, it cuts both -- you know, one of the arguments in this book Freakonomics that they make is that the declining crime rate, you know, they deal with this hypothesis, that one of the reasons crime is down is that abortion is up. Well --
CALLER: Well, I don't think that statistic is accurate.
BENNETT: Well, I don't think it is either, I don't think it is either, because first of all, there is just too much that you don't know.
He proceeds to say this:
How many times do I have to repeat this?Quote:
But I do know that it's true that if you wanted to reduce crime, you could -- if that were your sole purpose, you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down. That would be an impossible, ridiculous, and morally reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rate would go down. So these far-out, these far-reaching, extensive extrapolations are, I think, tricky.
The Number 1 Rule of Thumb for determining if what you are about to say is a racist comment or not:Quote:
Originally Posted by Divinus Arma
If you have to preface your remarks with "I'm not racist, but," then the comment you are about to make is most definitely a racist comment.
And we can see that the rule holds true in this case.
Even his opponnets admit the Bennet doesnt have a racist bone in his body. This is total BS. There was nothing racist in his comments. Im truly shocked at Don and Redlegs outlook on this matter.Quote:
If you have to preface your remarks with "I'm not racist, but," then the comment you are about to make is most definitely a racist comment.
And we can see that the rule holds true in this case.
You should try arguing with me about concealed gun permits then. ~D This conservation is nothing compared to that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny