Sammnites wouldn't use argive shields though. Etruscans swordmen is my guess, although it's probably a bit off. I believe the Romans had their version called the CLIPEUS too.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeonGod
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Sammnites wouldn't use argive shields though. Etruscans swordmen is my guess, although it's probably a bit off. I believe the Romans had their version called the CLIPEUS too.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeonGod
When you use such a large shield, it becomes almost unnecessary to have bodyarmour, as the only part of you that's exposed is your head (covered by a helmet) and your leading leg (the one you use to establish your position firmly, for balance, and that was covered by the greave).Quote:
Originally Posted by NeonGod
I must say that I'm not sure that's an argive shield. It is too much of a liability when fighting in a sword fight, especially when your opponent has a scutum or thureos which have a horizontal grip. The argive shield sacrifices personal combat ability, for added protection in a formation of similarly armed soldiers.
My first guess was Samnite, but since no one has confirmed that yet I will guess that it might be Umbrian. My only basis for calling it Umbrian is that in DBA Samnites and Umbrians get the same army.
Heavy Iberian infantry. I am guessing that those are falcatas, even though they could easily be from the Italian peninsula. Also, their armor and shields are modelled after Greek and Carthaginian armies. However, the design on their shields doesn't look to me like any kind of Italian infantry. Because they are quite possibly modelled after Carthaginian infantry, I am guessing heavy infantry from the Southern Iberian peninsula, near the area of Carthaginian influence.
However, I am farily baked at the moment, and so I would take my observations with a few grains of salt.
Edit: Also, the first soldiers looked like late Roman infantry, especially comnistantes... is there a connection there?
Another edit: that helmet proves me wrong. It is definitely Samnite, or some other southern Italian group. They are heavy auxiliary infantry, used to guard the flanks of advancing phalanxes, and to hit the flanks of enemy forces after the Phalanx has the enemy pinned.
Looks like Samnites.
Their Breast Armor is making me think their samnites. Still that Falcata makes me wonder
https://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/Samnites.jpg
(NOTE THE GREEN SWASTIKA)
https://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a.../samnites2.jpg
These units look like Macedonian. and the cavalry seems like a Xystophoroi or the Sophos... whatever.
How bout Sicel Mercenaries? That design on the shield looks somewhat similar to the three part symbol of sicily, also the mix of Italian, Greek and Carthaginian elements makes sense. After all draw a line from the centers of italy, greece, and carthage and you will pretty much get sicily culutrally
Lucanians. Lucanian swordsman. If that pic that Seleukus posted are anything to go by, anyways.
Even more late than Big John, I agree with his conclusions.
Campanian heavy infantry, I think I recognise the armour from an Osprey book, the two disks and a woman's horned head?
A Regional unit available to Romans, Carthage, and Hellenic factions?
Definatly a Samnite or Campanian warrior. My guess would be they are a faction unit of the Carthagian faction, representing the central italian allys during the punic wars.
Like I said, this unit was rather easy. It is our Samnite heavy infantry mercenary unit; right now we have no plans for them to be recruitable by any faction, though of course hireable by all as mercenaries, and they'll probably show up in some rebel armies.
So, a new unit. This one might be a bit easy as well:
https://img446.imageshack.us/img446/5787/19hm0dk.th.jpg
https://img446.imageshack.us/img446/7994/29ei7eb.th.jpg
It must be some indian unit...
Mauryan Nobels?
Regulars would fight without armor I guess.
Nice bamboo bow by the way.
I think this unit is a indian warrior:cool:
That's Mr. T in a turban.
"I pity the foo who thinks he can unite a panhellenic empire that will stand the test of time! Drink your milk!"
could it be a local militia unit for some of the regions near india?
Well, it looks to be an Indian archer unit. But is it available to any faction? I think it'll be in the local rebel armies, maybe recruitable by Baktria.
...Or is there a secret Mauryan faction that we haven't been told about? ~D
a maruyan mercinary
Indian/Mauryan Longbowmen or Patiyodha if you prefer.
Probably rebels and a unit available to factions that manage to take control of the indian provinces, and choses the right government.
Very nice unit I especially like the bamboo longbow. I guess the unit must be a kind of Mauryan rebel unit maybe available to Bactria.
Mauryan Longbowman
sigh.. late again. anyway, i'll swim with the tide this time..
mauryan patiyodha, regional unit and found along the indus. recruitable by baktria and seleukia if they conquer those regions and choose the right government.
Hahaha! Yes!Quote:
Originally Posted by meatwad
Mauryan Infantry and Mauryan archers.
I know I was there ~D
BTW why does the guy have to swords in the top pic? (look carefully)
Either we can show the sword in the scabbard, or we can have the scabbard be empty. We cannot have it filled and empty based on what weapon he uses. So we chose in the scabbard.
Alrit Kool!
Cant wait to see next unit! ~:eek:
Your previews and mini-previews are a truly refined form of sadism imo :)
It's the same unit. Notice both pictures feature a hip-quiver and a scabbard. Unfortunately, like Khelvan said, it is not possible to alter the unit skin depending on which weapon it is carrying. So either it always has a sword in the scabbard or it never has.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seleukus I Nicator
The last unit is beautifull, BTW.
Its way better than the new models for BI with their weird blue bowmen
You call that models??You must be joking...Quote:
Originally Posted by Byzantine Mercenary
Yes, these were Indian longbowmen, defending our easternmost provinces and available to at least Baktria in the Indian provinces should they take them.
Now, this one is a little bit more difficult:
https://img117.imageshack.us/img117/...y0ea9do.th.jpg
I'm thinking Thessilian Cavalry but that has been previewed so I don't know ~:confused: .
Successor state medium cavalry... I don't know which, because I have little experience with the successor states. However, that is definitely Greek-style armor, with a xyston spear.
Edit: which faction uses the feather and wings on the helmet? That should pin it down.
hm this one was hard.....I also think it's some medium Greek cavalry.
man look at the quality of these units and them compare them to the units in barbarian invasion...
I have to say its Thracian Cavalry
Thracian Cavalry
https://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a...ianCavalry.jpg
Thracian companions!
(ya never know =P)
Well, its definately Greek or succesor state calvalry of some kind, the armor, xyston and falcata inspired sword are a dead give away...
I'm going to take a wild guess aand say Macedonian medium calvalry of some kind.
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This one is definitely a cavalry unit! :yes:
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Italian cavalery of some sort? I think so cause of the tunic decorations.
The equipment looks heavily on the Greek side to me, but it could be Italian...where they using Xystons and the like in this period?
i'm going to go off the deep end and say it's a roman cavalry unit, thracian auxilia. on the faction list for rome, recruitable in thrace if the romans conquer it. i should read a book or something.. :freak:
I'm with Mouzaphaerre on this one.
EDIT: And what a stupid way to make your 800th post.
Like everybody I would say that it is a thracian cavalry but it could be an italian cavalry like campanian or lucanian
macedonian heavy cavalry?
i think that macedaon would be too obvius, what about one of the less known greek regions, Syricuse or south italy.
Yes, these were Indian longbowmen, defending our easternmost provinces and available to at least Baktria in the Indian provinces should they take them.
Uhm, ¿will be an indian faction? ~:cool:
:grin:
He's just playing with your mind :smile:
:tiny:
By the way, has no one noticed the saddle for this latest unit?
hmm, i noticed the saddle, but i'm not knowledgable enough to understand the significance of it. :undecided:
i googled for winged helmets and found these:
http://www.legionsix.org/wingedffront.jpg
http://www.legionsix.org/wingedleft.jpg
http://www.legionsix.org/wingedright.jpg
http://www.legionsix.org/wingedback.jpg
they are phrygian helmets. phrygia was in the western part of modern-day turkey, right? so maybe they are a seleucid unit or something? i'm sure other people had winged helmets though...
:help:
edit: someone at twc beat me to the phrygian idea. by like a day. :cry:
Hmm now that Khelvan mentioned the saddle, I re-checked the picture and noticed that the saddle has those "horns" protruding from the sides. There's an Osprey plate showing a Roman Equites riding on a similar looking saddle. So this would be a Roman cavalry unit? Or did other Italian people use this kind of saddles?
eastern men often rode saddles
i'm going for pontic-medium cav...
Lol... Saw that to..so i must agree..It could be some Roman unit~:cheers: ~:cheers: ~:cheers:
Celts and Iranians used the four pronged saddles first, I believe. Other nations copied them later.
Hrrrmn, Bactrian companions maybe?
Could it be some sort of Italian cavalry that the Romans hired as mercs or allies. I think the term would be Eqvites Extraordinarii? This is a total guess...
I am going to guess Pontus. Compare the helmet to that of this unit in the Pontus preview.
https://img197.imageshack.us/my.php?...aspidai9dt.jpg
Except it's also the same helmet as in the Thessalian cavalry and I believe some Ptolemaic cav also.Quote:
Originally Posted by tk-421
Yeah, your right, it is the same helmet. The Thessalian cavaly was in the Makedonia preview, though. Perhaps it is som sort of Thessalian mercenary cavalry, or Thessalians available to Koinon Hellonon or another Hellenic faction.
Phyrgian caps were a common helm type. It is based off the cap that the Scythians wore, I believe. Then other people added first scale to it, then made it into a solid helm.
Ok, so those were the Equites Extraordinarii. They are a Roman unit, representing the best of the pre-Marian allied cavalry. They are recruitable by no one else, though the model is shared so some elements will be familiar to you.
This one should give you less trouble in general, though picking the ethnicity may give you fits:
https://img289.imageshack.us/img289/3030/19lt.jpg
Kurdish horsemen perhaps? They defiantely look Armenian, or Near Eastern-ish.
Hah, this should be good! ~D
Jews?
Hmm...Pahlavian horse archers???~:cheers: ~:cheers: ~:cheers:
Near-estern horse archers for sure but what nationality ? To be original I will say Arachosian cavalry available for Bactria...
Sarmatian cavalry?~:confused:
Based on my knowledge, now I'm sure this is DEFINITIVELY NOT American native unit. :wacko:
The guy with the twisted stick looks like Saladdin, but has not a sword like his in "Kingdom of Heaven" :uneasy:
Besides, I must say, they're rather big-sized guys, not so small as gnomes, which is great, because it shows there were human beings outside Europe. Unless the horses are also small, or are foxes instead of horses, but no, the tails are not fox tails. But they may be gnome-size after all, because they wear bullets as helmets. But no, because gnomes were extinct yet in that frame time, at least in Europe. But outside Europe? :inquisitive:
Well, at least it is clear that they are not American native gnomes. I'm going to see in Google when the gnomes got extinct. You know, after the meteorite that destroyed Babylon. Ah no, it was a comet, sorry. :inquisitive:
Ok, let me guess...
Sioux? :idea2:
Eastern horse archers, but no clue other than that.
Horse Archers!
Pathians I would guess
I'm going to guess and say some sort of horse archer (obviously) from a Sarmatian subgroup.
Hrrrmn, the hair looks to dark to be Indo Iranian, so I'm going to rule out Parthian, Sarmatian and Skythian...
Ummm, some sort of Turkic horse archer recruitable at the farest eastern edge of the steppes?
I'm going with Persians.
Some kind of Sarmatian, or less likely, Scythian, horse archer (based on the saddle cloth).
You idiot! How could you possibly come up with something that stupid?! I mean just look at them! They're so obviously Iroquois!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dux Corvanus
:jester:
I'm gonna go with Pahlava. They just look like those heavy horse archers that the Pahlava are supposed to have.
Oh yes? And where is the typical-Iroquois bunch of bananas, mmmm? Have you seen Iroquois coinage? Iroquois always carried a bunch of bananas in our time frame. ~:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by meatwad
Ignorants... ~;p
Im guessing an Armenian.
i think it MIGHT be a horse archer of some nationality. but then, i am an idiot.
The last image was of the rebel Yancai Nobles, defending their steppe lands and available to the Sarmatians should they be conquered.
I hope you are enjoying this little game.
Shall I continue? Here we are then, another easy one:
https://img281.imageshack.us/img281/161/cav9n9fb.th.jpg
Greek (maybe Corinthian) cavalry
EDIT: For the Greeks.......actually looking at the colour, is it rebels?
It´s some greek cavalry..