Logging into the foyer under Windows XP

Drisos, mate, I'm sad to hear that.
I can't find any time atm to play on the server myself. So, I know how you're feeling.

4 things to consider:

1. Do you have the possibility to get the PartitionMagic program? (it's the easiest and possibly only way (without using linux) to partition your drive and keep Win XP alive)
2. Do you have any old hardrive lying around. (put it in and format it to fat32)
3. There's a way to install more than one OS on a hardrive. (I have a dual boot with linux, dual boot with win98 is possible)
4. GAH!!!!

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1 - I don't know, what does it take?
2 - sadly not :(
3 - intresting thing to consider... is it just like installing a program, then running it and windows changes into 'other os'? :)

1. The recent version is too expensive. Over 100€ I guess.
An older second hand copy would do.
2. :(
3. OS=Operating System. Win XP is just one out of hundreds possible.
One of the others is linux. There's however not one linux-os but different
vrsions, so called derivates. One of these derivatives is SUSE.
That's what I have installed.
Before I had installed it I already had win xp which I didn't want to loose. That's exactly the situation SUSE is prepared to deal with. Now, SUSE is capable of modifying the so called MAster Boot Record of your hardrive.
That's the first physical sector on the drive. It stores info that's needed to boot the OS. SUSE installs a so called bootloader that's loaded first and gives you the opportunity to chose which OS is going to be booted. (Dual boot system)
I usually have my win xp on default, so when I turn on my machine it directly (with 5 sec delay in the bootloader menu in case i want to change the OS) boots into windows.
Now, we come to the most interesting part. SUSE brings a tool called YAST (j(y)ust another setup tool), which is capable of partitioning your harddrive during the SUSE install without harming windows. (you only need to have it defragged)
You can easily partion the whole drive like you want to including
a fat32 partition. Basically it lets you do everything you ever wanted.
Did I mention it's free an certainly has a dutch version? :wink:
Download is ca. 700MB.
You should really consider it. The pros are that whenever windows has any probs you still have the other OS to check the internet for help, you can safely scan your windows for spy, malware and viruses and it's genrally very safe in terms of internet surfing. You would however have to give up a few gigs to the new system.

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is it just like installing a program, then running it and windows changes into 'other os'?

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So basically it's like, installing a big program and creating the fat32 drive out of thin air without harming windows or windows even noticing. :laugh4:
How large is your drive?
Btw, did you install the latest directx 9c?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUSE
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Originally Posted by Drisos

1 - I don't know, what does it take?
2 - sadly not :(
3 - intresting thing to consider... is it just like installing a program, then running it and windows changes into 'other os'? :)

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Sounds intresting!!! If I download that I can run shogun on another OS and on a fat32 partition... two chances of solves the problem at once! :)

I will sure try this out... I have more then enough GB (160), but the download time will be quite long. I can download about 80 kb/sec, so the download time will be almost three hours. It will be hard to find three hours somewhere. I will do it the first time I can find a three hours somewhere. ~;)

I assume a link to the download is on the wikipedia page as well?

oh and, no don't have directx9c yet... I will find that through google and get it today.

Drisos,

you will only be able to run Shogun under Windows. It's not really supported by linux. There's however a windows emulator called wine, that might work with older games. (It's included in SUSE)
The idea to use linux is a workaround to get the desired fat32 partition.
The SUSE install can get really big, also there're two versions, DVD (4gigs)and CD(700MB).
There's another option. You can get Knoppix (700MB), which brings the Partition Magic Clone qtpart. I've heard that it's also easy to use.
Either way, I'd recommend to print out some how-to's concerning installation procedure. Read it through and sleep over it.
Before you install SUSE defrag your drive. It's important.
Be aware that a linux system does some things different. Your harddrive that you know as C:\ will be called hda (hd=Harddisk,a=first). When you create a second partition it will be hdb etc. One partition will be swap, it will handle the swap-memory known as pagefile under winxp.
I suggest to give the linux partition 5 gigs and the swap 500MB-1gig.
Another possible partition (don't know what the defaults will do) is home, where all your settings and documents will be stored.
You can always mail me or pm me for further help.
PLEASE, before you do anything else, go to microsoft and get directx.
It contains files for directplay, which are used to connect to MP. That may already be enough to login.
Download links are on wikipedia or easy to find via google.

Have updated directx to directx9.0c

Tried about 15 logins... no succes. :no:

ehmm, a question on SUSE - will things be different when I choose to run in windows? (like the hda instead of C)

No, it won't be different under XP.
In windows everything will be as before.
One difference though, since you will use SUSE to "steal" some gigs
from the harddisk without Windows being involved, Win will recognize
that some space is missing and will run a check on the disk, suspecting that
something is wrong. The check wil come clean and all is back to normal.

SUSE just uses different "names" for the same things. You won't have a harddisk C: under SUSE but hda. There're other differences but don't worry, it brings a nice graphic surface like windows has, a startmenu etc.

Sorry to hear that the directx update didn't help. It could've been so easy.

Okey, will try to find some time to read about SUSE check if there's no problems. If all is ok I will download it... hopefully with 'yast' and 'wine' I'll be able to get back in the foyer...

I realize this is a big step.
Remember though, if you have SUSE installed and want to get rid of it,
it's very easy. You need to boot once with your windows cd and clear
the master boot record (I'll you how when we get there) and afterwards you
just go to Computer-Administration and change the new linux partition back to windows and everything will be as before.
Oh and when you're in the install procedure of SUSE, nothing will happen until you confirm the setup.

about Using SUSE to repartition an MS partition

https://img358.imageshack.us/img358/...a160ab02wz.gif
Clicking next with Shrink Windows partition selected brings up this screen for resizing your existing Win partition.

https://img467.imageshack.us/img467/...45a15175qg.gif

You can use the slider in this window to change how big you want each partition. Click next when you are satisfied. The partition resizing won't be done until the hard drive reformatting stage. That is after you press accept on the main YaST window, so you can go back and change it at any time before pressing accept.

You should also change the boot loader options so that it will boot your Win OS as the default, usually after the default 10 seconds, which you can change to longer if you wish for more time. When you decide that you want Linux to boot first, you can change it later with YaST.

https://img488.imageshack.us/img488/...789fb8c8bm.gif

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Thanks for all the info. I'm having the computer for about 10 hours saturday, and will be reading a bit about SUSE and the probably be installing it. First thing to try is yast. then I can try shogun. if it works I can deinstall SUSE buit maintain the partition.

if it does not, I can try the windows emulator...

Well, I have good hope! ~:) ~:) If all goes smooth I might be able to catch some SamOnSat games ~:)

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Just be sure what you're doing.
Make a backup of your important data and defrag windows before the install.
Yast is the tool that will guide you through the whole setup process.
During the setup you'll be given the opportunity to repartition (as shown above), be sure to create the fat32 drive in that step.
After the installation, boot windows and make a fresh install of Shogun on the new fat32 partition.

I wish you luck. As said before, you can email me any time.
I trust you still have my address. I'll be home on saturday
working at my computer.

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