Mongol: Total War is PERFECT! The mod could be Mongol based, but include factions from all over Asia, the Middle East and Eastern Europe. The map should extend from France to Japan, from Siberia to Sri Lanka and from Baghdad to Vietnam.
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Mongol: Total War is PERFECT! The mod could be Mongol based, but include factions from all over Asia, the Middle East and Eastern Europe. The map should extend from France to Japan, from Siberia to Sri Lanka and from Baghdad to Vietnam.
I don't agree with those calling for a Rome2 TW. I think Medieval II is being created primarily because the old graphical engine couldn't really do the period justice the way the post-Rome engine can. I think the Rome-engine itself is fine, but await the Medieval II one with bated breathe from watching the movie files and screenshots. I suppose it could be argued that there is a fairly long period between the ending of Rome around 27 AD and 378 where BI starts. This is true, but is there really much that needs to cover this period that a mod couldn't do - and not necessarily a very complicated one?
On the idea of Viking Invasion II that might be interesting and an ideal context in which to introduce the longed for real-time naval battles. I'm curious to know how this plays in Rise and Fall:Civilisations at War. I am very disappointed in CA for the absence of this exciting element from Medieval II. However I still stand by my preference for a Renaissance Expansion.
Probably colonial expansion or Ottomon invasion?
If the logic of the previous expansions is anything to go by, I would think that an expanded New World or 16th/17th Century Europe would be the most likely candidates. I really can't see Rome 2 or Napoleon, especially in an expansion.
VI was enjoyable but very limited in scope (and, as I have since come to realise, appalingly historically inaccurate, but nevermind that) but I wouldn't mind a broader depiction of Northern Europe in that timeframe. (I don't think they would do a Dark Age mod set earlier then VI unless it was focused on something like the rise of Islam, otherwise it might as well be a remake of BI) I'd also be surprised if they elected to feature a completely different area (eg Asia)
Pretty much every idea in this thread could work, but I would say a New World colonisation ("European Invasion") or extending the timeline of regular MTW2 to accomodate the religious upheaval, Ottoman expansion etc. are the most likely scenarios. Hell, they could even do both, though that might be too much for an expansion.
Another possibility is that they might further explore the idea of online distribution, especially if Alexander sold well. "Episodic content" is a big buzzword right now, perhaps CA might follow Valve with the idea of several small "expansions" primarily geared towards internet distribution.
There's certainly a lot of possibilities.
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think you are right doc bean.It is indeed the most logical to work out the concept of the Americas a bit more .:idea2:Quote:
Originally Posted by doc_bean
the rise of islam seems to most logical, and is still neglected in the world of total war
I would like a Total War game focusing on the various Chinese states (any era, really, though around 200 AD would be the best), and surounding kingdoms.
Or a total war game focusing on 1500-1700. Or a Napoleanic Total War.
All three of those would be great. I don't want another rome: total war, the Romans are so boring. -_-
I think that the expansion should be, and will be, an expansion of the americas to include far more of south america, and the west indies etc.
For the next full total war game, I really hope it's Napoeonic Total War. It would shake up the TW formula a bit, provide a perfect arena for the introduction of naval battles, and I think it would be a great fun to play.
(Although I have developed this opinion almost solely due to the awesome looking preview shots of NTW2)
Something along the lines of an asian expansion...maybe something w/ the temple kingdoms of India??
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As stated before I prefer a crusader orientated expansion, but this one is a good second :2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Asean
Something in the East. I really don't care for an expanded America campaign, although odds-on that's what they'll do (given the new Aztecs).
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Originally Posted by Subedei
agreed.
the east was just as apocalyptically violent as the west during this period.
the best expansion would be to add the east to the westand expand the original game.
Then how will napoleonic: total war be?
what will be the size of the campaign map and how many factions will there be?
I voted Napoleonic. Based on RTW, I just doubt they could do it justice (and yes I'll eat these words if MTW2 is a great game).
I would love an Expansion regarding the Moorish invasion of Europe. I know, probably a lack of factions, but still, would be nice. :)
Crusader Total War is a good idea, although Mythology Total War would also be a good idea.
I'd rather not have gunpowder, thnough I'd still buy the game is it was Napoleonic, and I'd bet the only reason M2TW is the next game and not Napoleonic is they wanted a new engine for Nap. for stuff like navies which where very important etc.
Didn't play Shogun 1 but the era doesn't interest me, plus two sequels in a row would be pretty pathetic from CA, I'd rather see new ideas.
Three Kingdoms China I believe was quite popular when we where speculating what would come out next prior to M2TW release. (not read the whole thread here, probably been discussed here as well) but that seemed quite interesting.
Of-topic, but have you tried it? The era was not one I tilted towards either, but it has a really immersive atmosphere and nice "chrome". MTW and RTW are a little bland by comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monarch
Medieval 2: The Norman Conquest (Invasion) would be good. It would feature a similar map to Viking Invasion, the British Isles, parts of Scandinavia and northern France. :2thumbsup:
I like the Norman conquest idea, but what I reckon will happen will be that there will be two expansions.
The first will be a big one, possibly expanding on the vanilla map (like BI) and that will be a conquistador invasion
The second will be a smaller map (like Alexander or MTW VI) and that might be a norman conquest one.
Of course that's pure speculation
Napoleanic:2 Total War would seem to be the most appropiate expansion pack for M2TW.
I dont see how, they will probably keep to the middle ages, as that is the title of the game. Why would they jump from 1530 to the late eighteenth century? The Napoleonic Wars may well be the next Total War game.Quote:
Originally Posted by UltraWar
I briefly played STW, and thought some parts were interesting. Didn't play much more than a campaign because it (for obvious reasons) felt less complex than MTW. VI also felt like that a bit, though maybe it was because there wasn't some important authority such as the Pope you had to be worried about. With that said, Religion was also not as important.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monarch
I'm also a big supporter for Three Kingdoms: Total War, and if you haven't read the whole thread, I noted maybe one or two mentions. Most want NTW, but I'm expecting the expansion to take us further into North America. I figure the expansion will be similar to VI. We'll get a more indepth map of the americas, and the Spanish would take the place of the Vikings, with the various factions fighting amongst themselves and defending against the invading Conquistadors.
This of course would make the most sense, though I did vote for VI2, partially because one of my favorite things about VI was the music, and I want to hear more of it :D
Am I the only one who want Balkans: Total War, or Byzantine: Total War.
There is so much that could be done with Byzantine: Total War. The Byzantine period is the most interesting in history, and the game could really get into the Byzantine politics and intrigue. Militarily, the Byzantines and surrounding peoples are some of the most interesting and amazing in the world. (Think greek fire).
Viva La Byzantium
An Asian Expansion and a Crusader Expansion...you all know there is going to be two expansions.:2thumbsup: I wouldn't be against an expansion from 1530on either.
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Originally Posted by Peregrine_Tergiversate
I would like two things:
1) eastward expansion of the main game to include the eastern empires/powerful nations.
2) ability for some western european nations to force protestant reformation from ~ 1450AD onward.
Although the chances of STW2 are slim the new combat system would be amazing for the era. I mean samurai combat with combos and such would be amazing!
Well maybe they will make a s2tw but it won't be as an expansion I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mithradates
It will be a full game imo.
MT2W - Arabic empires...
Campaign centred on the Arab world... and Makuria... with crusaders as hordes...
Damn, I may as well make a mod for this :P
If my PC is compatible
I think we can safely assumed that the expansion is either going to include a new, smaller map or use the old map but in a different time period. Thus, an Eurasian-wide campaign map is going to have to be reserved for the next TW installment, and my guess is that it isn't going to happen. After all, good old Ghengis Khan 2 got so very, very boring after a while - with a super-simple strategic mode and an equally simple tactical battle mode, which cut down on time.
So my guess is either a new Viking Invasion or an American Invasion on a small Central/South American map - but I still regard that as unlikely, as that's going to mean only two european factions at the most. Perhaps they'll do something novel and use 15th-16th century Italy for a "French and Spanish Invasion". A continent-wide Arab/Viking/Magyar Invasion would also be fun, but the expansion of islam is going to be very oddly modeled if they don't expand the map to include all of Persia and India plus the arabian peninsula - which I don't think is going to happen.
i think gunpowder ages like napoleonic wars really need a new game engine so i do not think they will go that way. i think either of 2 directions sound the most appropriate for the company.
one way is the further expansion of european power in the americas. they could represent europe more as just a staging ground for troops rather than a battle ground and place the map emphasis on the americas.
the second plausible way is to go a little further back in time similar to viking but not do the same thing. one possibility in charlemagnes empire which is a similar timeframe as viking. maybe give a few factions other than the franks the opportunity to become the revived empire and get the pope to crown them emperor.
i like several ideas put forward but i do not think the company will go that way. ideas like byzantine empire or crusades would not appeal to a wide enough audience. i would like just iberia and have a more in depth battle between various moorish princes and the catholics of aragon, castile, leon and portugal. still i don't think they will concentrate a map like that. most of these type ideas would be great for the modder community though.
An x-pack with a bigger map.
You can also see central asia and maybe south east and east asia.
playable civs like Timurids, Safavids, Moghuls, Khmer and china? Korea? Japan?
I definitely do NOT want a return to the Viking Invasion style exp pack with its smaller campaign map and whatnot.
My vote is for...
Medieval 2: DARK AGES - Have the game pick up a few hundred years after the Barbarian Invasions exp pack left off. Cover the spread of Islam and the expansion of Arab and Berber culture during the 8th & 9th century. Reintroduce the Horde feature for some of the central & eastern European and Asian factions. Franks, Vikings, Khazars, Avars, Abbasids, Umayyads, Bulgars, Saxons, etc.
My speculation of an expansion pack for Medieval 2 would probably be one the Rennasaince or the Christian Reformation. This would include lots of Gunpowder troops.
Or they could keep it Medieval and keep to the Invasion Name "Mongol Invasion" or "Muslim Invasion" could work... although the latter would probably be controversial seeing the title name haha.
They coul also go back to the Crusades era and zoom in on that part of the map and make it the focus. Kinda hard to speculate when the first game isnt even out yet.
I dont like to see an expansion like napoleonic or something under the name of Medieval2: Total War. :no: I'm sure these ideas suitable for modders. I expect medieval subjects more than these not related ones. But, i can only noticed Viking Invasion. And Ottoman, Mongol ideas are cool. :2thumbsup: I voted for less gunpowder expansion.. ~:thumb:
agreed.
Where is the GAH! option?
That's my pick ~:)
I picked Shogun II. Although it's mostly unrelated (apart from a similar timeframe) from the main game, it's of limited enough scope to be practical for an expansion pack. Shogun is my favourite TW game, and I'd like to play it with some of the later series enhancements. And we probably wouldn't have to suffer from poor balancing.
I would hate it if they did the Vikings again, or anything Napoleanic.
For an addon my vote is for something specific...i want to see something like a civil war.....for example the english civil war and see lots of small battles for places such as roads, mansions, villlages and farms...then all those could influence the rest of the campaign such as your resources. something really detailed and make it so that you are fighting more than just for a city, make it so that you are in a civil war and fightring for every ince of your beloved homeland...whatever that may be....its a slightly new direction but keeps the sprit well.
For a sequel...hmm....shogun II would be great, as would be something a little mythical.....perhaps a fantasy direction....
Just a thought...
Personally as a few others have mentioned, I would love a Mongol invasion Expansion Pack, imagine hording as the Mongols are ripping through Europe...
The wars of the reformation could be interesting - 1500 on for about 100 years or so.
The english and french mixing it up with each other and the hapsburgs, the hapsburgs uniting and holding onto their empire, huge ottoman invasions towards vienna, the poor hungarians trying to hold out against them, the entire med situation with ottoman pirates running rampant, the knights of saint john, the genoese, hapbsburgs, french, papacy, and vienna all fighting each other or banding together against the ottomans alternately, etc.
Ottomans would definitely be the powerhouse here :) So call it 'ottoman invasion' but every power would have a lot they could do. Lets not forget the emerging protestant factions in germany and the religious wars they caused.
and a cane multiply campaign options and rome for m2tw
China: Total War as the next game of this TW series
Don't care about the expansion.