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Hm..very uneventful winter. Sending DDW a season transition battle initiated by the Thracians. I'll have an update on the first consul report and probably a new battle report up tomorrow.
:2thumbsup: Happy hunting DDW. (I'm actually at a loss for why the computer even attacked you. They've got about 6 units of regular old warbands and that's it. This battle should be over before it starts.)
Perhaps that's all Thrace could afford to send out. Plenty of factions have been nipping away at Thrace (Germans, Iberians, ourselves). They may be running out of funds and, landlocked, running out of friends to trade with.
They can't run out of funds on VH/M. They get 10.000 free each turn, hence the endless mercenary armies.
D'Oh! yeah, forgot that......must just be AI "stalling" tactics.
I think the AI is over-optimistic when making attacks both on the campaign map and on the battlefield. Sometimes it attacks even when the autoresolve implies it will lose.
I agree with the over-optimism...
At the very least, the ai doesn't just randomly spawn 5-6 units at a time from every settlement with this free 10,000 a turn. It still abides by the same one unit recruitment per season limit that we're stuck to.
Guys,
Just an update:
Well, firstly my internet is still dead – BT are to do a “Lift and Shift” of my comms line in an attempt to solve the issue. This should be done “within the next couple of days”. :wall: :skull:
During the week this isn’t an issue, I can access and download save files from work.:2thumbsup:
This weekend I will be away at an Airsoft LRP weekend near Leicester and from Friday later afternoon (4pm) I will be out of contact. IF the internet is back up before the week is out then I can access files and the forum from approx 8pm Sunday (24th). :charge:
Hope this is ok and that IF I have any battles pending during this period I hope you guys can hold on a few more hours until I get a chance to play them through (asking for a special one-off here Simon :sweatdrop: ).
I have no more events/weekends planned for this year yet so this shouldn’t occur again….oh, and I hope my internet will be sorted as well anyway!
The campaign is proceeding at a fairly stately pace, so I doubt there will be a problem. But now that he knows your situation, I guess Lucjan can manage things so we don't have to call upon Decius Curtius to bring you to trial for a no-show. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Braden
Thanks, yeah, things will be ok - got a PM from Lucjan.
....still, wish me luck in "rubbing out" those players this weekend with my new M4 AEG!
Happy hunting Braden. :2thumbsup:
We've got plenty of issues here, as you already know, to keep us busy until you get back.
Sorry about the double post..but..
Due to a recent panic attack I had because I was convinced some treacherous swine had somehow secretly used one of our diplomats to give Carthage Lepcis Magna, because we lost it and I, for the life of me, couldn't figure out how, I must ask you all a tiny favor.
If, by chance, you are fighting a battle initiated during another faction's turn, and our new turn starts after your battle is over, let me know what all of those little icons that scroll down the left side of the screen tell you. They contain valuable information that prevents such panic attacks, like, Carthage bribing Lepcis Magna back to their side. :shame: Due to nobody's fault really, this little event had been overlooked, and I got very very confused very quickly.
Even if it's just a really short note to let me know what happened like "units in rome, arretium, capua." "buildings in tylis, bylazora." Or whatever the messages happen to be.
The republic has become seriously huge, and to have to go through every single town every turn to make sure buildings have been built or what-not gets very tedious. Those little icons make everything a heck of alot easier to organise and remember. The problem is, those icons don't reappear when you load the save game, and all that information is lost to be manually dug up again.
So I'd really appreciate if you guys could remember and try to help me out with that. Thanks everybody in advance.
Best is just to hit escape immediately after the battle (might have to bash that key a bit). You should get a chance to save when the next factions turn is (so before our next turn starts). This way you don't have to make any notes at all and the first consul can see for himself.
I don't think that works the way it's supposed to...
The save you sent me that you did that way, I only get two messages. New family member and the end turn report.
From what I can gather.. the unit recruitment and building completion icons never appear, because those things are already registered on the campaign map from the moment you hit end turn, if you're loading a save with those things already on the campaign map, they won't be recognised as newly recruited or constructed and I don't get the icon.
This is, also, why I think I never saw the message about Lepcis Magna, Lepcis Magna was already Carthy again on the camp map by the time the save file was taken, when I loaded it, the game registered LM as being Carthy and neglected to mention to me that it had been bribed away from me during the ai's turn.
Because the ai completes all your orders when you hit end turn, before it actually takes its own turn, saving during the ai turn makes the computer 'forget' to tell me about all the new and wonderful things I have to play with.
[edit: Lucjan posted at the same time as me - I'm replying to DDW]
I don't think this is going to solve the problem - if we save a game in the middle of a transition (ie at the moment when the AI attacks us) and exit, I suspect we lose all messages pertaining to events leading up to the attack. The only messages that will show up after we load it are those that happen during or after the battle.
At least, that's what happens with the winter-255-lucius save. The Carthy AI presumably bribed Lepcis Magna during its turn but before Thrace attacked. We saved at the moment of the Thracian attack. But when the battle is resolved & our turn comes, we are not informed of the Carthaginian bribery. In this particular case, I think we can legitimately role-play it as skull-duggery - if you are turning traitor, you might want to keep it quiet from the big Roman army roaming around nearby.
Oh, we're going to legitimately rp this out. I wouldn't have it any other way, and I really don't mean to be a pain to those who may end up with that end-turn battle...but I'm human, I forget exactly what I put where in all our 50 some settlements.
I'm not asking for specifics of what building type or unit type like the computer gives you, just the simple note of...
You have new units in (enter city names).
You have new buildings in (enter city names).
This is handy for screen capture during battles :
http://www.gadwin.com/printscreen/?prnscr
EDIT : I let it play out after saving and all I got was an end of turn report icon. I was under the assumption that you didn't build/train anything that turn (pretty unlikely, not I think of it).
I did spot 2 Carthy diplomats on their way down towards L.M. when I was reviewing the save before last but lost their position as Decius was further north looking for the oncoming armies (a much better idea).
Small garrison + diplomats = easy bribe. Seems logical.
the other option is to do a simple "PrtScn" for each event and then use that for a brief report. I know that I just can't remember the names of places and never seem to have a pen and paper near the PC.
I'd be perfectly happy with screenies.
How's it going Lucjan? There seems to have been something of a pause since Monday.
There's alot to consult, but the campaign is moving forward. I'm going to get more on top of the consular reports, I know they're supposed to be every two days, it just doesn't seem like a significant amount of stuff happens in just two days. They'll be more frequent though from now on.
Speaking of, there's a new update now! :2thumbsup: It's a lengthy one too.
Excellent work Lucjan, I think the key is that your taking lots of time to think things through and consult directly with your Generals (as we know).
All this takes time but the results are worth it, good detail on the report.
I have to be honest and say I'm really worried about the situation your legion is in :embarassed: doesn't look good, I hope you can keep giving the Carthy's the run around until relief arrives mate. :sweatdrop:
Good luck to ya, by comparison I've got a real easy job ahead of me :2thumbsup:
Edit: Oh and what on EARTH is Appius looking at! That’s the sort of expression you only get when you put on your trousers and find there was a bird-eating spider inside them…..
Either that, or the shot was probably taken on his honeymoon, and Appius is getting his first good gander at Marcia. :eyebrows:
Good report. :)
Just a minor nitpicking... :P, I see you forgot to report on the defection of Lepcis Magna.
Yes, a very good report. Now can we fight someone? (God, I am starting to sound like a human version of Lillacor, the talking sword in Baldur's Gate 2 that I despised.)
Report on my shortcomings? Please, allow me a little bit of senatorial arrogance. :laugh4: Besides...I have to give the senate something to whine about when Servius gets back.
:director:It doesn't matter that we have Lepcis Magna again now, four years ago you didn't report that we lost it to begin with!
EDIT - Ok, ok, you can fight someone in..what, 10 minutes, after I do my battle!
Again, can I re-iterate an earlier request of mine, please please please, when you do a Consular report, please add a replyQuote:
Speaking of, there's a new update now! It's a lengthy one too
I ask this for 2 reasons.
1) So I can quickly and easily see via the new post symbol that a new report has been made
2) So we can get off page fracking one!!!!!!. Ahem. Even with broadband it takes a couple of minutes to load that page due to the 150 images on that page.
Oh! Sorry mount suribachi! The next report, as per your very truly spoken request, will be made in a "reply" rather than an edit...and, errrr, every report after that too. :oops: :wall:
EDIT - It's hard work leading a massive republic! Sometimes these minor details slip my mind. ~;) lol, sorry.
Oh dear, I'm here!
Um, welcome back? Having seen you in a while, where've you been?
New battle report going up soon. ~;)
I am wondering, do you still welcome newcomers, and is this were I would ask? The past week has been the first time I've wandered into the PBM forum for more than a few minutes, and it's been truly fascinating to read the (extremely well written) reports and debate in the Senate threads.
If you're not bringing new people in here I perfectly understand.
Yes we are. :2thumbsup:
We've actually got some pretty strong new avatars available.
Have you read the FAQ thread?
hi Lucjan, thanks for the quick reply.
Yes, I have read the FAQ thread fairly thoroughly at this point. However, I apparently will be spending two or three days downloading the required files, as my current downloading of part one of seven via rapidshare (a misnomer if ever there was one) is going to take another three hours. The bottleneck is not on my end since I'm on a T3 line.
21 hours of downloads is rather daunting but I'll do it! However, if anyone knows of other places besides rapidshare to grab these files, I would Really appreciate a pointer.
Once I get the downloading done I will be ready to jump in.
And, I submit myself to your wise judgement regarding where I might best serve.
Thank you, but my wise judgement won't burden you with choosing an avatar for you. That's your job. The avatar becomes your personality for the game, so it's important you choose one you think you'll like.
There are a number available for the taking, some of them better than others, but sometimes flawed characters can be fun, you can see our newest one, (quite promising too if I might add) in my latest consular report. (Speaking of flawed characters, I had a HOOT playing Manius during the trial. lol)
Misnomer indeed...rapidshare and I don't get along. If you can't get rapidshare's multi-part zip to work (Like I couldn't...) I have all the single file zip files saved and could upload them to something else, like, mega-upload. And you could get them from there. Those multi-parts work wonderfully for some people. For others, (like me), they just don't seem to want to put themselves back together.
Welcome Tamur, there are indeed some interesting avatars available....
Assuming the list of available family members is current, would it be OK to step into the shoes of Galerius Vatinus? As far as I can find, he is:
- the son of Valerius Paullus, born spring 274
- currently 19 years old, and has spent most of his time in southern Italy or Sicily
- has commanded one battle against a few bandits while on march from Syracuse to Rome
- is currently near or in Rome, while his father is commanding the Italian legion
Though the new Coruncanius is going to be quite the fellow, I would feel a bit awkward taking over such a superstar when I am a bit new to the process and all.
Someone let me know if this is ok. I don't know whether that would put me in the upper or lower house, so someone will need to tell me this as well.
Thanks! And Lucjan, if you could somehow get those files on a different server that would be splendid. The first of those seven files still has 20 minutes to go... :juggle2:
You can take whoever you want, don't be bashful. The Coruncanius are an ancient Roman Family yes, but that doesn't mean you can't join them. The upper house is if you want to debate in the senate but not fight battles, and the lower house means you have the mods installed and will fight any battles your avatar gets into. The choice is yours, though since your downloading the mods I assume you will join the lower house, correct?
hi Glaucus,
Yes, I am downloading the mods and will definitely be participating in the battles, osv. Thanks for the clarification.
After posting that last, I found that Galerius was played by Eclectic and already has quite a history. So I think I would rather take up the clean slate of the young Coruncanius, Appius Barbatus. With a name like that, who knows where he will end up? ~:)
Hmm, a definite problem. File #1 was there, but file #2 (at least) has been deleted from RapidShare. I'm renaming the service SlowShare-RapidDelete.de
So, if someone could let me know where to find these files, that would be positively splendid. I went to the RTR page on twcenter, and they don't seem to have the same set of files for Platinum.
Right, and look at that silly glare in his eyes. Is that brilliance, or just because he's a goofy looking bugger? :laugh4:
EDIT - I'll upload the biggest file to megaupload now, while I go take a nap. Still waiting on econ's return of the save after he fights his battle. If I get it within the next 3 1/2 hours the next move after I do some army maneouvering will go to DDW, if not, we'll see how things go tomorrow.
Thanks very much for your help Lucjan. I'll content myself to comment here and there meanwhile... and yes, I was wondering about those eyes. A bit too much white to be a perfectly normal Sharp fellow...
http://www.strategyinformer.com/pc/r.../mod/9000.html
Turns out I don't need to upload the big one after all.
Download and install this (just click the usa mirror under download locations, I missed it the first time too, it's not very obvious) over a clear Rome patched to 1.5. After you do that, let me know, and I'll upload the Platinum1.5 patch, the mn mod, the 4tpy mod, and then you'll be good to go!
You'll be given Appius Barbetus, and your first task will be to reinforce Numerious Aureolus in the east, I'll be sending you there with Roman reinforcements.
Welcome, Tamur. :bow:
As you might have picked up, with this mod there are special Roman Leadership traits based on military experience. So if you have a young general, the best thing is to be out in the field picking up experience so you get the 10 years required to be a Legate (+3 stars). I suggested to Lucjan that your character be the tribune to my (Numerius Aureolus's) Legio V. I will be away on business from 20th October to 6th November and you could take over the Legion in my absence.
However, when you get the mod installed, you can load up a savegame and if you find a better opening, you can always PM Lucjan to suggest it. For example, if the Iberians declare war, we are going to want Lower House generals in the west.
Another idea - there are quite a lot of rebels in Illyria and Greece - perhaps Lucjan could use you and the reinforcements you are bringing to mop them up? It would be a bit slow, but Legio V can wait.
PS: Mount - I've turned the page on the First Consul reports. Apparently 30 posts => new page. So we should keep posts to screenshot heavy threads short. Maybe even split up battle reports into several posts.
Welcome Tamur, our motto is the more the merrier (and rowdier :laugh4:).
I am sorry the files at rapidshare at causing people trouble, I am unsure what the problem is. If desired, I can reupload them once again.
Lillacor was just hilarious. Gods, Baldur's gate II is absolutely the greatest game ever. And Throne of Baal ruled as well. Ah, I well remember when my superduperparty arrived at this monk's palace and I tought, piece of cake, and this guy goes, tiger kick or whatever and my guys are being ripped apart. Get them, Boo ! Those were the days...ahem...anyway...
I also apologize for the long load times for the consular report. I had the annoying habit of endlessly adding on to an existing post (as it was a lot easier to copy and paste that way). I hadn't expected the forum software to ignore the length of these posts.
*Flexes hands in anticipation of savegame*
*shadow boxes against monitor*
Oh, you guys still here ? Err...just stretching, just stretching...
*tosses ddw the save game* :2thumbsup:
Another easy one..but I can't help it. Thrace isn't putting out like it used to. :shame:
Ah-ha! Thanks again Lucjan, it's downloading currently, and only 2 hrs till I've got the whole thing. Very nice. And thank you econ for the info on experience and the move to Legate. I had seen that referred to in the reports but didn't know what it meant in this context.
Two quick questions:
1) I'm unsure exactly what my role in discussion of military strategy is. Sit down and shaddup? Limited input while following precise directions from the Consul? Full control of troops (while marching east) with the main goal of joining up with Numerius?
2) I'm also unsure whether Appius has an in-character "voice" on the forums anywhere for discussion and haggling with others in the lower house?
And thanks for the warm welcome all, it's a pleasure to be working with you!
Well, the first consul is in charge of the strategy, within the limits placed on him by the senate. Which he can ignore, at the peril of impeachment. You can always offer him advice or criticism in the senate.
In the in-character thread you are supposed to be Appius, and in the out-of-character thread you can be yourself.
Basically, the Consul does all the moves on the strategy map. Your only job as an individual general is to win any battles thrown your way. Once or twice, I've been tempted to do something on the strategy map with my general in a savegame but if that was not authorised by the Consul, I would be in serious trouble with the Senate (we've put a general on trial before and then exiled him.) However, smart consuls will always be open to constructive suggestions and ideas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tamur
Collectively, the Senate can constrain the Consul by motions every 10 turns. But you have to write the motions that are cast iron because the Consuls will wiggle out of them if you let them (we have some real lawyers playing too!).
In-character in the Senate deliberations; out of character here. You can PM people in or out of character - I often put a disclaimer in the title to make it clear in which capacity I am communicating.Quote:
2) I'm also unsure whether Appius has an in-character "voice" on the forums anywhere for discussion and haggling with others in the lower house?
Phew, with the absence of TinCow I feel I have to write for two. I hope he comes back soon :laugh4:
Sorry to resurrect this old quote, but it shows that some of us were starting to get worried about the Senate going deathly quiet at the beginning of Lucjan's reign. No worries now, I guess. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Braden
We love controversy. :laugh4:
And welcome to the PBM, Tamur. You certainly picked a good time to join the deliberations. :wink:
Ha, this is positively hilarious! In a very serious way, of course. Yes, I don't see dull times ahead in the near future :party2:
I've said it before and I'll say it again, if only Publius Pansa were still alive...he'd have you tarred and feathered Simon :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by econ21
Oh, and thanks for getting us off page 1...I was beginning to think it would never happen ~:)
I was getting worried. I had to aggrivate the senate somehow. With it being so quiet I was getting upset that the only people who actually didn't approve of what I was doing was those who were having nightmares of their character's deaths and mistaking them for actual in game occurences. *Cough*Glaucus*Cough*
lol..kidding. ~;)
:eeeek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucjan
Can someone give the location of my avatar? So that I can role play better? It is a weird feeling for a mind not to know where his body is... :P
I think he's in Asia Minor scouting for Seleucid forces in the area.
All these forts Lucjan is planning bother me. I don't think the AI can cope with forts very well. Just place a fort in a pass with 1 guy in it and a 2000 strong enemy army will travel along the mountain range instead of attacking the fort.
This is the reason I never build them at river crossing and mountain passes.
:inquisitive:
You think so?
:inquisitive:
I've never had any problems with the ai and forts before. Let's wait and see...if the situation gives us problems, they'll likely be removed by whoever comes after me.
EDIT - Consul report coming in a little while. (I.e. later today, maybe an hour or two.)
EDIT #2 - CONSULAR REPORT UP! ~:)
Before 1.5/1.6 forts were definitely a problem, but since coming back to 1.5, I've had forts consistently seiged, and seiged seriously (by one full stack which was joined by two other full stacks over the next two turns, goodbye to my five-star general).
Forgot to note that I'm finally ready to go with all the module parts up and running. Interesting set of mods, I'll have to take it all for a spin on my own while waiting for the deliberations to die down :)
Ok then Appius! You'll be on your way with Numerious's reinforcements in the beginning of next season, which is actually coming up rather quickly. There isn't very much left to do this summer. Tieing up loose ends, it's been a fairly uneventful season everywhere but the east, but that can be good, moves the campaign along a bit faster.
From a first consul's report :
Is that a bug, or just a coincidence ?Quote:
I would also like to extend my personal congratulations to Flavius Pacuvius, whose family has been graced by a son, Luca Pacuvius. Actually, come to think of it, this is the second child he has decided to name Luca Pacuvius. Ever the humorous man I guess. May your two Luca's bring you much pride when they come of age enough to serve Rome.
Either way, it's handled well in the report, I can live with it heh.
:balloon2:
Hi all, a cheerful question for a Monday:
How are assassinations handled? Does the Senate all need to agree on such a thing, or is it the Consul's prerogative to launch subversive attacks?
So far:
As “avatars” such as Diplomats, Assassins and Spies are controlled on the Campaign map they have been almost exclusively controlled by whomever the current Consul is.
Non-Consul players do not take any actions on the Campaign maps at all (except if asked to do so by the Consul) – they just fight the battles and debate/make motions in the Senate.
However, there are still some opportunities:
Diplomats: The Senate often dictates who they will approach and what offers they are giving out (fat lot of good that does seeing as the game Ai is so pants with Diplomacy).
Spies: Again, the Senate “can” request a spy to move to a certain place so they can see something on a screen shot OR if that spy Avatar is held by a player then they can petition the Consul to move them somewhere to advance the character further with skills.
Assassins: Similar to spies but the Senate has yet to make any request for an assassin to strike at any particular enemy Avatar.
Or at a ''friendly'' avatar for that matter...Quote:
Originally Posted by Braden
...not that the thought ever crossed my mind though ~;)
:balloon2:
Can you kill your own characters? I'd heard of people putting terrible generals on boats in pirate infested waters or sending them out on suicide missions. I'ver never heard of assassinating friendly characters (although I confess I've never tried).Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch_guy
For some reason I was sure this was possible, but apparently not. This must have been possible in MTW or STW, because I remember knocking off a couple of really lousy generals!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tamur
I do believe this is possible in Rome, although after reading the quoted I'm not so sure anymore...Quote:
Originally Posted by econ21
On a side note, It was definitely possible in Medieval...
:balloon2:
I think it is only possible to knock off your own spies in enemy's cities. I tried, in order to keep the bloodlines of my family clean, ended up having to send them to suicide missions...
Uhoh..
We've got a big problem as far as Rhodes goes... It's worthless.
I noticed something as I was moving things around, when you double click the mausoleum at halicarnassus, or the temple of zeus in Elis, you get a description of the wonder and it's attributes. When you double click on the colossus at Rhodes, you get nothing. So just to see if maybe it was a glitch, I played ahead and took Rhodes and Halicarnassus. When you take Halicarnassus you get the "captured wonder" message.
When you take Rhodes, you don't, and there's no significant change to the income of surrounding provinces, only the typical couple of denarii from taking a new town.
I'm thinking that the Port Monument building added by the m&n mod erases the wonder effects of the Colossus of Rhodes.
Looks like we didn't do our homework with this one...
That's fine about Rhodes - we could even roleplay it as a case of fool's gold: we expected it to be a great treasure chest of trade income etc and it was not. (To be honest the wonders are a little cheesy from an in character perspective.)
New consular report just posted, as promised. :2thumbsup:
Heya folks, thought I might throw in a suggestion that I thought could be kind of cool. How about turning off banners on the campaign map so as not to see the strength of enemy troops so easily. This can be done by pressing J. That way, we would have to actually send spies to find out the composition of any enemy force, otherwise risking miscalculation and so on. It'd be a cool little thing to add to the atmosphere of the game, plus it could give a new level to rp with as a spy character.
-edit-
Oh and Consul, think I could get thrown into the field again soon? Gettin' lonely here in Tylis. Could you also put up savegames with your consular reports or whenever else so we can check out the curent situation, traits, and so on to have a better handle on rp-ing certain things?
Wonderland - what I do almost daily is check the Org uploader and download the latest savegames to see how it is progressing. If lower house generals have the time, I'd recommend they do that occasionally so they can participate more fully (and badger the Consul by PM). IIRC, you are now in Nicomedia not Tylis.
Thanks for the info about the banners. It would make spies more essential. The fog of war is still non-negligible even with the banners because of the ? units. For example, I spotted an 18 unit Ptolemy army near Halicarnassus - mainly ? units. The banner was small, but I am still not sure how strong it is.
hmmm...how near??
; - )
Near. You can see it in the 254-sum-num2 save - commanded by Cpt Amassis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Braden
I posted a new file last night just after my battle. Didn't take the time to look what forces were around other than those I was fighting though but if their near Halicanassus then its likely I'll know soon enough....
Battle report posted now. Pictures are too small so I'll have to examine where I went wrong but I suspect I know.
Does Image Shack automatically scale pictures to fit on the specified medium? If so, then I know what's happened - I pre-scaled the pics to 75% but then selected "Forum" for the medium when uploading them, which means they're likely to be 75% of 75%.....hence a bit small.
Will try to resolve this for next time though.
Edit: tried something else and just got links to the pics. Ok, will give up for now and I really suspect the pics are NOT detailed/large enough anyway to see enough detail as I'm looking at the originals now and they are too small - I have certainly done something wrong when I copied them and re-scaled them first off.
With imageshack, I just copy the entry under: "Hotlink for forums (1)"
I've never tried using imageshack's resizing function, but I will - I suspect we want the 1024x768 option (suitable for 17" screen option).
Checked my images and I do know where I've gone wrong. For some reason when I've Pasted them across into Paint they have not transposed to the whole blank page.....meaning when I scaled them down to 75% they went smaller than intended.
Will play with that and make sure I dont make that error again.
However, its GREAT to finally be fully active in the PBeM!!!
I like Wonderlands idea, so from now on I'm playing bannerless. EDIT - It was cool, for a little bit, then I started forgeting where I left people, so I turned them back on. Playing as consul, it's just easier with them on..
DDW! I'm dealing with your hero status this very moment, so you don't have to remind me again! lol.
And, it couldn't hurt to include save files in my reports. It shall be done.