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I have a few small things to report from my ongoing Sauromatae campaign.
The descriptions for roads and small trading port have the Warning should not be displayed thing, and the healer needs a description.
Other than that I'm having a great time and i really love their music, great theme.
Those descriptions and title errors are the result of a particular (and heretofore unknown) problem but they will be fixed in our next build we expect. Dol Goldur from FATW figured out the problem that was causing them. Basically if you have "and not" as a building requirement it can show this error in buildings placed at the start of the game. Also you must place the building by descr_strat and never by campaign_script.
Something else I noticed the Sauromatae diplomat is rendered kind of weird he has some textures and polygons missing or something he looks ragged, all the other diplomats I've seen look normal.
EDIT: I don't know if this is a bug or intended but the melee attack value of the Sauromatae Fat Aexsdzhytae (Sarmatian Horse-Archers)
is 12 while similar units like the Aorsi have only 4-5.
I was looking at this, and I can't figure it out. I went into EDU, and found that the dictionary name was hellenistic_cavalry_baktrioi_hippeis. So I searched for that in export_units and it came up just fine. Which makes sense because the name displays just fine. However, the long description entry is {hellenistic_cavalry_baktrioi_hippeis_descr}, which is precisely, exactly the same (I pasted it here directly), and in the correct format. Yet for some reason it doesn't want to display properly... it doesn't say "unlocalised placement text" or anything, just nothing at all under Description. I haven't checked it out for the short description in custom battle. I do see a spelling error in the text of the short description though: it says "Baktroi" where I believe it should say "Baktrioi".Quote:
Originally Posted by Thaatu
(edit) short description works just fine?!
While playing Swezboz, one of the starting building in my capital that was (western-greek) I think it's the building that is supposed to state you are the swezboz, it gives a 5% morale boost. Anyways in the description it just had this big Warning notice.
Also, in the capital for grain silo, for description it says "you are not supposed to see this, report the bug"
I play as Romans and during my campaign i noticed that some units have strange description. For example:
Samnitici milites
(heavy infantry)
(light infantry)
Kirslininkas
(baltic light infantry)
(heavy infantry)
the same problem with Pedites.
So what, are they heavy or light infantry?? :dizzy2:
i'm getting the bad supervisor trait on sweboz despite the guy already being a Governor, and the message he's asking to become a governor. I've had it happen a few times.
Also, what's with the command stars? I've fought close to 40battles, i've almost beaten the sweboz campaign and I haven't gained one command star from my battles.
And, just from a preference side of things, i find it annoying to have to identify someone who might get bored, then walk them around outside like they're a dog. I just find that aspect of things to be tedious micromanagement, but also micromanagement that is hard to identify.
Yes, i also noticed that my generals receive almost no command stars. Its quite frustrating when i fight personally almost every battle and still no command stars are coming to my general :furious3: On the other hand AI has not such problems because most of AI generals have lots of stars :shame:Quote:
Originally Posted by Static
Playing as the Sauromatae this I noticed that the Shahrdar is missing a picture and a description:
https://img521.imageshack.us/img521/...rdartw3.th.jpg
I think you guys are aware of most of what I'm posting here but I'm just trying to be a good beta-tester, not a pest.:2thumbsup:
Generals must fight a couple of battles before they get the experience and learning to gain stars, sometimes they need some time to take it in as well. Fight large battles with the odds against you, and the stars will come. The AI gets bonus stars in order to provide a better challenge for you.
I don't know whether it is a bug or a BI_special_feature, but I can't set some campaign options like "city automanagement disabled" while using RomeTW-BI.exe-shortcut :furious3:
They just don't exist in the starting window. The only option I have there is "arcade battles disabled".
Is that Ok?
Nevermind.
I've been playing as the Romans for dozens of turns (v .81 obviously). But as of late, when I load up my save, run the scripts and click the end turn button, I zoom to a unit I forgot to manually move (a diplomat north of the Crimean peninsula if that helps), and while he's moving the game crashes to the desktop. No warnings, just a crash. Whenever I load the save up, it's right before the end of a turn, and it always crashes when I hit the end turn button. I don't really know what else I can say to describe the problem, but if you tell me more of what you'll need, I can try to post it for you. I'm still on the Roman turn when the game crashes.
My best guess would be a resource conflict, but I don't know for sure. If so, any remedies you can think of?
(I've turned off a good host of unnecessary programs).
Not having any luck with the upload. It's straightforward on how to do it, but my computer isn't cooperating. Guess it will have to be posted on Monday.
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I really, really, REALLY, want to resolve this, as I've rather pulled off a miracle with this particular game. I've been at war with all but a handful of nations (Macedon, Egypt, Baktria, Sauromatae, two others I forget). they were massacring every army I sent out. I have turned the tide and have wiped out two of those nations (Lusotana & Avernii) and I'm almost done doing so to another (Aedui). Two more are being pushed back far into their own lands (Sweboz and Pontus). I also have a family member that is inches from being declared imperator (he single handedly defeated the entirety of Carthage, killed many Avernii, Aedui, and is kicking the snot out of the Sweboz). He was Julius Africanus, now he's Julius Germanicus.
Awwwwww, no spoiler tags? ~:mecry:
That's only in BI version. You can still change those settings from within the campaign (in the world map go to game options).Quote:
Originally Posted by MiniMe
Thanx =)Quote:
Originally Posted by Thaatu
Just a note on my other post, now I think almost all of my generals have the uncomfortable supervisor trait. It says they want to be a governor, when pretty much all of them are.
They want to be governor in a larger settlement. They feel their skills are not properly challenged in a backwater tiny village.
I'm not sure it's a bug but the Sabyn temple of Almagah (their chief diety) gives a health bonus on the higher construction levels, which is funny since the description says he's primarily a deity connected to agriculture. Wouldn't it make more sense to give the temple of Almagah agricultural bonuses like the Pontic temples of Mithra and move the health bonuses to one of the other Sabaean gods.
Or have you got a fourth Sabaean god planned for the next release?
One Sweboz issue: The building 'Thengaz' (I *think* that's the name) appears to be buildable only before you set up a goverment.
Seleukid 'Hydragogion (Aqueduct)' has the Roman barracks picture and has no description.
Also not sure if it's a bug, but the 'Uncomfortable Supervisor' trait gives all kinds of penalties, but also +1 to troop morale. Sadistic troops.
Well if that's the case that's a little unfair to factions such as the Sweboz that pretty much only have tiny villages in there area.Quote:
Originally Posted by bovi
I'm gonna put this suggestion on the suggestions thread, but I'd suggest that since the system as present, I'd have to imagine works that when a Governor reaches certain level of management he wants to manage a bigger city. Why not just have it so that he doesn't gain management points up to a certain point for smaller cities (which may already be the case) and leave out the trait penalties which IMO overcomplicates an already complicated trait system, with things that may work for certain factions but not for others as demonstrated here...
Yeah, it's a little weird having the governor of a faction capital question why he's given such a worthless task, but it's not that big of a deal as they don't affect stats that a governer needs (except -1 influence and -100% cost of bribes, which most of the time don't make much of a difference) and the trait doesn't remain forever.
That was the longest sentence I have written or said in a while.
Perhaps you should try to take a larger settlement from your enemies so your guys can supervise that for a bit :laugh4:. You only need one (governor palace or bigger) such settlement, you can let your nearby supervisors take a little vacation there before shipping them back to their dreary tasks. Or even better, conquer more large cities for them! Also, if you create buildings in the settlement he governs he'll be busy and become happy again.
Alternatively, you could reduce the chances of them becoming unhappy in the first place. Search export_descr_character_traits.txt for "Affects UnhappySupervisor".
Is it normal, when playing as the Romans, to conquer cities and estabilish a homeland government, but not be able to construct your factions main stream recruitment facilities? I ask because I've noticed that I'm only able to construct local levy recruitment centers. I've restarted the campaign multiple times, thinking it was just a glitch, but it's the same in all of them.
Is this normal? I've never noticed it with any other factions.
In that rebel city, deep in the desert below Carthage (with the round, tumor-like province), there's about 5 buildings with the homeland barracks picture, and a white background. When I right clicked on any of them, it was called "Victory", and the decription said something on the order of "WARNING: This should never be visible on screen!"...
Thought you guys might want to know about that...
The settlement with those buildings is stuck all the way down there, because there's no good reason anyone would want to trek down there to take it. Those buildings are markers we need to make the rest of the game work as it should.
Yeah, check the FAQ about Roman recruitment. To summarize it badly, they only recruit their good units from citizens, and with the reforms for this faction it is sort of rationalized that citizenship only comes (even to conquered areas) in stages to other areas. So you'll have to only recruit local barracks troops in your newly conquered territories until you get your first set of reforms, then you can start getting your good roman troops in provinces outside of your starting ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Komosatuo
Ah, alrighty then. I saw Carthage heading down there with a pretty beefy army, so I checked it out to see what kind of garrison it could have to warrant that (two units of Numidian Skirmisher Cavalry), and I looked around at the buildings while I was at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by bovi
Makes sense. Don't know why I didn't think of that before. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou
When I attacked Trapezous, my non-chevroned General became 3-gold chevrons for the battle. After the battle was won, the battle results said about experience "-9", and after the battle he was at the state of before the battle again. So he had experience-level 9 only for the battle out of nothing. In other battles with this general everything was normal.
Yeah, we have a pontic temple with crazy wrong morale boosts. :grin: It's probably why pontos is doing well lately! It gives like 21 morale instead of 2, so it's making supertroopers right now. :grin:
Trait Bug:
Trait "Wealthy" gives +1 Influence, -1 Unrest and -1 security, but in its description, it is written that it decrease public order, it is actually opposite now. So either description or effect is false.
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Unit: Thuerophoroi/Mercenary Thuerophoroi have bonus vs chariots and elephants, but similar units like Thorakitai or Lybian Spearmen have bonuses vs. horses
I presume Thuerophoroi are spearmen who fight in formation and so they should have bonus versus cavalry, but maybe it is intentional.
Is this happening due to the temple in Trapezous? Because I was playing as Macedon, Trapezous was still independant and Pontos already wiped out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou
This is a really annoying bug...
I'm playing as the Romani, and whenever I capture a territory, I am unable to build any units there because the barracks have the wrong culture. So I destroyed the barracks the first time this happened, but was unable to build Roman ones! Now my armies are either made up of local militias or they are troops from Italian provinces that already had barracks to begin with, that take a number of turns to tranport to the right region. what's going on here??
Every faction has its own MIC (barracks). It is quite illogical that the first turn after conquering a town you can build your own units. So EB requires you to build up your own military facilities. And then only in areas where culture permits units.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaotix27
Romans can only build "Roman" units in central Italy. You can't even build factional MICs outside a few territories. If you can't build regional MICs, then there is a problem.
Romans shipped legions to and from Italia during the early Republic. Only true Romans could serve in a legion (6 cities in the Camilian Era - all type1 cities in the Polybian Era). Later select areas of the Republic could recruit legions (this is represented by increased legionary regions in the Marian Era). In the Empire, most legionaries were non-(racially)Romans (in the Empirial Era you can recruit legionaries in many places). In the late empire many soldiers didn't even come from the Roman Empire - bad idea.
Another "please report:"
https://img250.imageshack.us/img250/...0053qx7.th.jpg
You will note there is a river port with a trade caravan. I believe this is not supposed to be possible, and is probably the reason it's a "please report."
I believe there may be a bug in the way spies operate in cities. Right now penetrating cities seems to have backwards odds. The longer the spy is in the area, but outside the city, the higher against him are the odds of penetrating into the city and the less information he can see about the garrison from just outside.
Below is a screen cap of one case where the spy has been in the area several turns. There IS an enemy family member in Baktra, I think, but not the FL for sure, and I don't think it's the FH either (not sure who that is atm though). A couple turns ago he could see the garrison fine.
It's possible an enemy spy is playing into the equation, but that doesn't fit well either as this seems to be fairly consistent behavior. I note that when a spy first enters a region the odds of entering the city look pretty normal, but they increase against him if he doesn't enter immediately.
Is this intended behavior or a backwards comparator somewhere?
Oops, it is the faction heir in residence. But a 3% chance for a 5 star spy still seems a bit extremely long odds to me. Or maybe EB just makes spying on family members a LOT harder.
https://img211.imageshack.us/img211/...0060yy1.th.jpg
Coastal ports and trade caravans can't be in the same province together, but river ports and caravans can. The spy thingy is surely hardcoded, except that maybe the FM gained some anti-espionage traits with that spy next to him. Actually I have no idea how the system works. All I know is that once there were these two settlements, one with 3 militia units and one with 4 elite units as garrisons. My spy had infiltration chances of 100% to the first one and some 30% to the second and there were no enemy spies present, as I found out later. I was quite puzzled. After that I know I know nothing about the system.Quote:
Originally Posted by vonsch
This bonus to morale LOOKS a little high. I'd be willing to bet that it is. Or at least that the text on the description is wrong.
https://img123.imageshack.us/img123/9128/0000gm1.th.jpg
There is a similar bug reported on this thread for a Pontic temple. Don't remeber if it was agreed that the morale bonus is supposed to be 2 or 3. My guess is 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by vonsch
Looks like a similar error. Easy enough to fix in the EDB.
I believe this has been mentioned before, but hypaspists still have swords as their primary weapon and spear as secondary. Makes it kind of hard to defend against a cavalry charge.
You can get around this by ALT + right click your target. Then they will charge the target with using spears overhand.
It's hard to defend by attacking.
Playing as Macedon, I found out that Kallatis is not an Expansion region, but an Outlying region, although bordering my Homeland province of Odrysai. The nearby Getia and Getia Koile are Expansion regions, and even Skythia and the Western Crimea. Pantikapaion and Kolchis again are Outlying.
Well, I see it considerable that Pantikapaion and Kolchis are Outlying. But why Kallatis? And why is Skythia and the western Crimea Espansion Type?
I don't know if this is a bug, but it's strange anyway.
I got a CTD in my KH campaign on Carrodunum rebelling.
Is this a known issue?
The CTD was repeatable and happened immediately on end-turn.
I tried adding the permanent fixes and the nerfed traits file. I also tried pressing end-turn without activating the background script.
I solved it by creating happiness buildings with process_cq.
I had captured Carrodunum from the Romani, I had left no garrison (I was raiding) and it turned out there was a Romani spy there.
Did you delete map.rwm after installing the improved rebelling city fix? If you did, please post your savegame in a new thread so we can see if we missed a settlement in the fix.
This too has probably been noticed: The Sweboz capital, which I'm not going to pronounce, has a WARNING! building, and it says in it's description that it should not be visible or something. It gives +5% law though, so I'm not complaining.
The Sauromatae general, fights in melee with his bare hands, he carries a sword while running around though.
By the way, are new general skins planned for all the factions?
I was playing as the Romans (current year 213 BC), and I've noticed once after loading a save and playing a few turns that all of my government buildings (i.e. Regional Pacification & Romanized Province and such) were destroyed. I repaired all of them, saved, and called it a night. The next day when I loaded it up again I played a couple turns and all those buildings were destroyed again.
Also, while playing as the Casse last night, I noticed the same thing. I clicked on the city and everything was undamaged in the city, as soon as I activated the script, the government building (Casse version of Regional Pacification) was destroyed in this city and all my other cities.
I remember someone saying that you cannot play different factions without quitting the game and starting it again, or the script will still recognize the first faction as the legitimate owner of the buildings, and damage them. If you loaded your save first thing after starting the game, I don't know what could cause it.
I think someone posted it here, somewhere, but my Pahlava generals almoust everyone of them have 2 vorshiper traits. I would understad whit an old devoutet governor but a 18year old rookie, thats a bit strange.
As the search restriction prevents me from making the needed searches (waiting for how long for a second search?) say if this is old:
the MIC in Sparta has no picture. (Spy sneaked into) Should be one of the bigger one, perhaps the biggest.
In Gaetulia (african desert) are several "buildings" (MIC with white background) with a "WARNING: (~meaning:)That building should not be visible", that is a "victory condition" if you have the mouse over it.
That MIC level 5 for hellenes is fixed in future builds. IT was saved with an alpha channel when there should be none there.
I will try both (open up EB and load a save, and then run the save again) to see if t still happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by bovi
The Sauromatae building Tent of the Singer and its upgrade ( one gives 5% happiness the other 10%) which I can't remember to name are not buildable in any of my starting or steppe provinces they seem to require a large city and can be built only in conquered cities, I don't know if it's intentional or not.
This next thing is RTW-AI at its weirdest but I remember the same thing in my Casse campaign in which I was fighting the Romans and watching the Carthies stand around was driving me nuts. And yes they are at war with the Romans and have been standing around first with 2 then 3 and now 4 stacks for 5 years or so I believe.
https://img478.imageshack.us/img478/...hiesbx5.th.jpg
Thanks Redmeth. That nomadic bard thing is a mistake for sure. I'll get it fixed for the next release.
Playing the Casse I noticed that the Pallantia tradeport is bugged. Like the Sabata tradeport, it's refusing to generate the sealane between any other port. Hence no seatrade at Pallantia.
I dont know if this is significant, but whenever I quit the game I get a message along the following lines:
"Script Error. Bhumaka is a named character and has no father, and is not married, therefore he has no connection to the family tree, which is not a good thing."
Hasn't affected gameplay in the least, but it might be significant.
That has appeared occasionally whenever I've switched off my game as well. I still don't know what the deal is about that.
2 bugs which I had in my Romani campaigns in 0.80, 0.81 and 0.81a:
-Spanish settlement (will check name today) in the north west. Not Tyde , the one a bit east of it. Problems with the harbour, there are no ships going to or leaving the harbour.
-weird traits in some areas: My general who was marching through northern Italy got the "Winter campaigning restricted" in winter followed by "Summer campaigning restricted" in summer meaning he couldn't really move at any time of the year. The climate in Northern Italy isn't THAT bad lol
That script error sure sounds like some sort of installation problem. Like something wasn't fully included or was cut short. Very strange - maybe it has to do with an update and map.rwm not coinciding. A campaign started with 0.81 and then 0.81a added or something?
No, I made a fresh clean install for every version.
The problem with trade and the harbour is in Pallantia btw.
Its possible, I had a lot of problems installing, but got it to work just fine after a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou
Not sure if this is a bug or not, but one time (the only time these circumstances have occured) a General's cavalry unit charged a phalanx of mine from the front full on. They got through without a scratch, and broke the phalanx (I know they have two hp, but they should at the least have been stopped by the pikes, right?). My unit did not even try to attack them until the cavalry had reached sword range and the phalanx switched.
btw, its not a bug, but why do slingers do more damage than archers? An arrow goes faster and has far more mass and penetration capacity, so it should be much more damaging. Just remarking that these things seem a bit strange to me.
There have been some fascinatingly complex discussions about this in the main forums (search for "slingers overpowered" or something). In short lead bullets have better penetration than arrows, thus giving them AP ability. On a personal note, slingers have longer range, more ammo, are armour piercing, cheaper, they gain experience faster and have more or less the same damage (depending on the region) as archers, so I think some balancing is in order.Quote:
Originally Posted by gran_guitarra
This worked. Thanks!!Quote:
Originally Posted by bovi
Found several of these graphical bugs around the walls of Alexandreia:
https://img77.imageshack.us/img77/7786/ebbuges4.jpg
Romanis' Quadriremes have no picture (just a white square) and in the Trireme desc., the plural of "Trireme" is spelt 2 different ways :S
Also, on the loading screen descriing the Casse Calawre (C. 200BC), towards the end of the page, it says they think dye/tattoos (can't remember) will "curry favour with the gods"!
"Curry favour" is a real phrase, meaning to ingratiate or seek to please.Quote:
Originally Posted by I Am Herenow
"Garrison and Levy Center" has no a description. Can you recruit anything there apart from the normal MICs?
I'm playing 0.81a, with the CityMod added.
In my Romani campaign I had the marian reforms. I can build Vigiles practically everywhere. Exception: the former KH and Makedon homelands in Greece. Although I have the barracks there, the only thing I can build there is local troops (applies for Ak-Ink too).
And in my AS campaign I had a family member travelling by ship from Syria to Alexandria which took him 2 turns I think. Now after the first turn, i.e. in the middle of the ocean he decided to participate in the olympic games, ordered the ship to stay in position, grabbed the lifeboat, rowed away NNW and rowed back to the ship three months later to continue his voyage towards Alexandria. :inquisitive:
Is there a way for the Olympikos trait to not trigger while the character is not on land?
The good thing was, after he had been rowing all the way to Olympia by himself he was in such a good condition, that he won the games...:laugh4:
Vigiles are 'Latin' troops. They are available in areas of your Roman empire where there was considerable romanization and/or colonization (in 'barbarian' regions). In the East, Greek units continued to be useful and there was less romanization.
I have heard of restricting olympic participation (to only those in cities, IIRC), but I don't know if it was decided to be implimented.
I see, thank you.
The code looks like this:
If you add "and EndedInSettlement" to these conditions your generals will only participate in the olympics when staying in a settlement. We are considering changing this for the next version.Quote:
Trigger Hellene_Eligible_for_Olympics_not_busy_not_hypochondriac
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition Trait Hellenic > 0
and Trait YearsPassed = 4
and Trait Season = 1
and Trait TurnsAlive < 4
and Trait Hypochondriac < 1
and Trait NaturalEnergy > 2
and not IsBesieging
and not IsUnderSiege
and RemainingMPPercentage > 20
Affects EligibleForOlympics 1 Chance 100
I noticed in my Sauromatae campaign that in some cities (very few I only noticed it in 2 so far and my empire strethces from Persepolis to Ankyra from Olbia to Sulek) after I conquer them I can build a "Nomad HQ" building it has no picture and the description states that it is temporary and it represents the ruling class or something like this.
I think there is a bug in its availability besides it's appearance because I now hold around 45 provinces and only noticed I could build it in 2 so far. Gava-Haomavarga and Apameia if I recall correctly.
EDIT: Also noticed a building for the Sauromatae I can build it in the huge cities that I've conquered called General structure for mantaining order or something very similar it has no description.
That Nomad HQ building will be removed in later releases - we have done some rearranging of the nomadism/pastoralism complex variants so it isn't used by anything else, and it gets rid of the need of that crazy nomadhq building.
The Villae Rusticae description is full of spelling errors - I could clean it up if you like, if you tell me where it is.
^^ IIRC you can find it somewhere in the \EB\Data\text subfolder.
I noticed some problems with the Sabaean units in the EDU. First their skirmishers have a base size of 40. All other skirmishers in the game except for Peltastai have a base unit size of 50 or 60. And Peltastai are elites. The same problem with the Citizen spearmen unit having a base size 50 while enemy phalangites have a base size of 60.
Is it intentional that the Sabaeans have smaller sized units than the enemy?
when i try to run the game,it gives an error talks about the "germanic infantry hundaskapiz" line 16088 column 57.
What can i change in export descr files to get the game going?
First thing that came up was: well, that looks like a bad install, sorry - but you'll have to reinstall EB. Second thing that came up was: well, you didn't give too much info about your error report, did you? Third thing that came up was: well, if I had more info I'd be able to answer your call for help better. Basically, if you have just installed EB and then loaded it and then encountered the problem -> most likely a bad install. Finally, I do hope you were reporting something from 0.81a, since it's otherwise a matter of simply updating your build.