I dont believe so.
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I dont believe so.
Suspicion list that i have will be dis/proved at next kills.
I concur, what he said was like saying, "If you've eaten food before, you might have swallowed it."Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
At this point I haven't seen enough to raise an eyebrow other than the attempt of GH to cast aspersion on the entire world.
Vote:Abstain
At this point...
Both mafiosos are on the same team, but they don't know each other. So they wouldn't try and kill who they think their parter is.
I've got to say, killing UltraWar in the first round again was a mean-spirited thing to do. :no:
As for Sasaki's death... *looks around for Reenk Roink* Nope, not playing. Hm, I don't know what to make of that one then.
Hm... like perhaps you're doing here? :inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
Talking about a role can be seen as a tell (i.e. the guy talking about detectives is more likely to be a detective, the guy talking about doctors is more likely to be a doctor, etc). You've obviously put a lot of thought into the mafia role... any particular reason why?
Of course, trying to anticipate the mafia's moves is a natural thing for townies to do as well, so I'm only mildly suspicious.
Almost makes me want to vote Caius for such nightmarish grammar! ~;) (j/k) The logic itself is barely decipherable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caius Flaminius
I also find it a bit suspicious that Caius unvoted so quickly after being accused. It makes him look a bit like someone who doesn't like attention.
These are all just musings, though, and not enough to warrant a vote. So instead I'll lodge a pressure vote:
Vote: Warluster
No being WoG'd like in Mafia VI! Our numbers are few and we need every available player active.
If you think framing someone can lead to mafioso victory, wouldn't that make it likely for you too try to frame me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Caius Flaminius
An interesting turn of events - I guess, as suggested, that someone was relying on the title as proof that sasaki was innocent - it'd be horrible for the mafia but great for us if they killed off one of their number on turn one :laugh4:
Vote: Omanes
For discussion
Unvote : KommodusQuote:
Originally Posted by Kommodus
Vote : Dutch_guy
Similar reason: I don't want you to lurk this game out Dutch. Talk to us. :whip:
What do you think?
It seems to me that the current assumptions for the Mafia are either a newbie (such as myself) or an experienced player.
I ask you this: what if that was what the Mafia wanted us to think?
After reading about previous Mafia games, I saw that the Mafia kills were splendidly prepared, following a train of thought.(Mafia II, Mafia III and even The Godfather)
GH on the Godfather, part 2:
It seems to me that reverse psychology in this case could be possible, with a obvious suspicion toward Ichigo, those who had run-ins with Sasaki, experienced players and even newbies. Those people who would view Sasaki as a threat to them. If you follow my logic, you'd ask:who seems unlikely to be targeted by Sasaki, or who isn't afraid of Sasaki? Also, who isn't an experienced player or a newbie?Quote:
The mafia went all-out in this game, faking multiple twists and PMs, throwing suspicion everywhere, and using reverse psychology in order to survive
This means nothing. The Mafia don't know each other and haven't had time to speak together. Sasaki could have been the Mafioso who killed Ultrawar and then was killed by....Quote:
Originally posted by Pevergreen:
Killing of Sasaki is suspicious. We now know he can be trusted.
Not knowing enough I can't give a vote now.
BTW has it ever happened that a Mafioso was caught at the first round by logic?
Mafia has been lynched in the first round. But afaik that was either by incident, or by some very bad mafia performance (Cronos, in Legend of Davenport, for example).
Sasaki hasn't been killed by an experienced player, we all know it's better for you as mafia to keep him for a couple of round, kill him after that. He hasn't been killed by a absolute rookie either (unless it was an accident), as they don't know about Sasaki's "fame".
I'm staying on Caius, as:
1. I would see him do it.
2. He's starting to play like Legend of Davenport again, where he was mafia.
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Stig
why you dont change your name ti Vote:Caius Flaminius abnd you location too to the same thing.
Seems Im acting the same way always.Im tempted to vote you, but if i vote you will came to OMG bandwagon!
So, Im allowed to say you are playing as Midguard.So, I will came with false acusations saying Stig is mafia *because he plays like Midguard
:inquisitive:
Vote:CF
I think he would try to frame me by killing Sasaki.
I think someone experienced killed Sasaki and UltraWar, its like GH games, UltraWar is killed in the first round
Or someone mimicking GH games. Or someone like you who knew about Ultrawar being killed in GH games.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Wow. That really narrows it down, doesn't it? So, apparently the mafia want us to think player is either someone who is experienced, or someone who... er... isn't. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Warmaster Horus
(Sorry, I'm not making fun of your logic, I just couldn't help myself on that one.)
Dang this is suspicious. :inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by Caius Flaminius
Er, CF... are you a mafioso? :stare:
I guess my vote will stand for now, as Warluster still hasn't said anything. This early in the game I'd rather remove the WoG bait than active players... though there are quite a few candidates using this logic.
Yeah, well...:sweatdrop:
What I meant was that perhaps our Mafioso(i) are neither experienced, nor completely new to this.
LET'S KEEP NARROWING IT DOWN PEOPLE. But, seriously I think we should tone down on the mafioso may be experienced or new because that'll get us nowhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warmaster Horus
Kommodus is acting weird. He usually lurks a bit more until his programs have data.
No, Im not.Thats my way of playing.But check the last two mafia games.Stig launched the same *edited insult* acussation saying:He is acting like the mini game he was mafia, repeating that one and other time.Im really annoyed of that accusation so I willQuote:
are you a mafioso
Suicide:CF
Hate being accused all the time by a liar and hate the fact everyone believes a liar
We can't afford to lose townies!
After 5 rounds we'll only have 5 people. With one suicide or wog we lose a lynch.
That's funny cause you're acting like he was in blood.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caius Flaminius
You have two votes. :sweatdrop:
Anyway, if im callified to vote will Vote:Stig
He plays like Midguard.always threwing acusations, its the same Stig i knew in midguard
Unvote me, then and lynch a real mafioso, not the weak townie.
I won't, and let me tell you why. You are threatening suicide, and now trying to make people unvote you because of that threat. I'm more inclined to leave my vote now since your last statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caius Flaminius
Thank you :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
I have heard the Heaven is good.
That's nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caius Flaminius
You are so death and quilty
Death yes.
Guilty, not quilty, no.
Say, just to be sure Ignoramus, do you do the write-ups for the Mafia(they just tell you who they kill) or do they also do the write-up?
*****************Voting closed***************************
Execution will follow shortly.
I only write them up if the mafia don't describe their kills. I wrote Sasaki's kill, in case you're wondering why it is short.
Ichigo: General Hankerchief,
Stig: Caius Flamminius
Warmaster Horus: pevergreen,
Dutch_guy: Andreas the Cunning
Omanes Alexandrapolites the Idiot: Stig,
Caius Flamminius: Ichigo
Abstain: ShadeHonestus
There's a six way tie. I'm sorry about the lack of storyline, I had it written up and it got deleted.
Unvote: Warmaster Hours
Vote: Abstain
Well based purely on the kills I would think that it would be someone with some experience who made the killing on UltraWar, because they have to understand the fact that he hasn't survived in a long time. So for that reason, and that reason alone (as well as in the interest of more conversation).
Vote: Dutch_Guy
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Originally Posted by Ignoramus
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Originally Posted by Stig
:sleeping:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
Stig later changed his vote to Omanes.
Where? I don't see that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignoramus
Opps, sorry. I mistook sapi for Stig. Forget the recount, the execution will take place shortly.
Well, this is all very clear-cut, isn't it?
AyeQuote:
Originally Posted by rdeče.jabolko
Just so you guys know, I am here! Sadly, I just couldn't find anything to reply to or defend myself against. Also I could see no definitive channels for voting. Sorry about my inactivity.
Taking votes already eh ?
Oh well, could have seen that coming since my Mafia IV career.
Anyway, what have we got then:
Not necessarily with experience, could be a random pick (like we did in mafia IV) or just a sadistic mindset of one of our mafioso. The only experience one needs to target Ultra this early, is managing to click ones left mouse button and opening the Mafia FAQ and synopsis of previous games thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by CA
I think your vote was better placed elsewhere.:yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
At this stage, however, little can be said. Caius springs to mind, but that's only because he's dominating the thread - post count wise. 10 percent is his. And that said, such 'evidence' isn't conclusive at all, and hardly worth a vote.
:balloon2:
Blump
So yeah, what's going on or something....
I think we're still waiting for the execution. Hey Iggy, what gives?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadeHonestus
:inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kommodus
I've been pressed for time lately. I promise the execution's going to go up tonight.
Just say that Caius got lynched so the PMs can be send in and we can continue
Chief of Police Beirut sighed as he walked into the Town Square. It had been an all too good demonstartion of the lack of efficiency on behalf of Ignoramus Police.
Caius Flamminius was being dragged away to where two small barrels of gunpowder were waiting.
Suddenly, Caius pulled a knife out of his sleeve and shouted, "You'll never execute me alive!"
Beirut whipped his gun out in an instant and fired. Caius' hand, still holding the knife, flew away, narrowly missing Stig.
"Now I've had enough of this!" shouted Beirut, "Tie his feet to the barrels."
Caius, still dazed by the sudden amputation of his hand made no resistance as the the barrels were tied to his feet and the fuses lit.
An sharp explosion shortly followed, resulting in the sudden disappearence of Caius' feet and most of his legs.
Meanwhile, Ichigo and sapi were busy stirring the cauldron full of boiling oil. "Chuck him, ordered Beirut. Caius was unceremoniously dumped into the cauldron.
Horrible screams followed, but they soon subsided as what remained of Caius was quickly put out of his misery.
"Let that be a lesson to you mafia!" finished Beirut.
Note: The references to Stig, Ichigo, and sapi have nothing to do with the game. I will be giving living villagers roles in the executions.
Voting Results:
Didn't vote: Count Arach, Warluster, HughTower, Kommodus, ShadeHonestus, Omanes Alexandrapolites the Idiot, Dutch_guy, rdeče.jabolko, God's Grace, Tran
Caius Flamminius: Ichigo, Stig
Ichigo: General Hankerchief
Stig: Caius Flamminius
Warmaster Horus: pevergreen,
Dutch_guy: Andreas the Cunning
Omanes Alexandrapolites the Idiot: sapi
Abstain: ShadeHonestus
Kills please.
Your your records, Ignoramus, I actually did vote (for Warluster).Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignoramus
*ignores Kommodus*
I wasn't talking to you. :stare:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
:laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kommodus
So Im dead with 2 votes.
I noticed. You do realize that right now it looks like you are avoiding talking to me, having ignored the two posts where I questioned you? What is your motive here?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kommodus
Indeed... http://www.freewebs.com/handbacon/33.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
ah, villagers. probably the most accusive people in the world.
not even my inquistors accuse as much as the villagers.
Alright then...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
This is correct - I am talking more than usual this early in the game. The reason is that we have fewer rounds than normal. Holmes tends to start working best at around the fourth or fifth round; in this game, five rounds is probably all we'll get. That means someone needs to drive discussion early on. You're not doing that as much as you used to, Sasaki - whether it's RL or too many other mafia games I don't know - and Pannonian's not playing. So I'm trying to be a bit more vocal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Really not sure what you're asking here (or even if you're asking a question). The thread was looking rather dead due to Iggy's delay, so I was giving him a friendly nudge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
This doesn't give a reason for not answering the questions before. I take it you don't want to give one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kommodus
I don't quite see your posts as driving discussion. You stated that you'd rather lynch a lurker than go after active players. This doesn't lead to discussion, quite the opposite. And really, you only commented on a couple players, and your "driving" doesn't seem to cut to hard (as it necessarily would to create discussion. "are you a mafioso" isn't going to lead to a telling answer.Quote:
This is correct - I am talking more than usual this early in the game. The reason is that we have fewer rounds than normal. Holmes tends to start working best at around the fourth or fifth round; in this game, five rounds is probably all we'll get. That means someone needs to drive discussion early on. You're not doing that as much as you used to, Sasaki - whether it's RL or too many other mafia games I don't know - and Pannonian's not playing. So I'm trying to be a bit more vocal.
Commenting on your previous lack of response.Quote:
Really not sure what you're asking here (or even if you're asking a question). The thread was looking rather dead due to Iggy's delay, so I was giving him a friendly nudge.
Really, this here is what first interested me:
Reenk Roink hmm? He isn't playing as you noted. But you seemed eager to claim that I was killed for the sort of vengeance motive that reenk has exemplified. Now, given my dropping out of Mafia VI I think you may have surmised that I might drop out of this game if killed, and been willing to take a shot at me.Quote:
As for Sasaki's death... *looks around for Reenk Roink*
Not at all. I just don't want to get into a shouting match with you, which would be of no help to the town.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Heh, I guess I'll concede that point. I never said I was good at it. :surrender2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Though the point of lodging pressure votes is to get someone to talk, and it often works.
Vengeance actually wasn't what I had in mind with that. I was thinking your killer might be someone who didn't actually think too highly of your methods and wasn't afraid of you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
I thought you wanted discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kommodus
Rarely works. Especially against lurkers.Quote:
Heh, I guess I'll concede that point. I never said I was good at it. :surrender2:
Though the point of lodging pressure votes is to get someone to talk, and it often works.
That doesn't make sense though.Quote:
Vengeance actually wasn't what I had in mind with that. I was thinking your killer might be someone who didn't actually think too highly of your methods and wasn't afraid of you.
You're dead Sasaki. How could discussion with you get us anywhere?Quote:
I thought you wanted discussion.
Obviously you've never watched CSI...the dead tell stories ya know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
Not this dead guy. He's targeting one person, I guess he doesn't see the bigger picture.:huh:Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadeHonestus
Kommodus isn't dead, and the other players usually comment on a discussion. As you just showed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
I think somethings not quite right with Kommo but we'll have to wait and see.
Aye, but Kommo is just one out of how many? 16-17 people still aliveQuote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
So we should ignore him because he's only one person? Surely you seem the problem with that? :smash:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
Besides now you are talking as well. When I see something else suspicious I'll comment.
No, you shouldn't concentrate on just him because he's one of many. You of all people should know that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
I've been talking this whole time have you not noticed me? How mean. :bigcry:
Is it night or day?
Maybe Ignomarus should state it more clear...
It's night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tran
And that's why it would be better to shut up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
So I wonder, is Sasaki helping his mafia buddy by provoking discussion at night? Does he want to know who is most likely to get lynched so that the mafia will kill those who are least likely to get lynched?
Who's side are you on Sasaki? Why do you want discussion and possible clues about who is going to get lynched during the night?
Why would that be useful?
Murdered usually means they're innocent Andres.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndresTheCunning
And how is this discussion hurting anything? Have we said anything about someone being suspicious? Besides Sasaki questioning Kommodus.
Both mafia don't know eachother ... don't try to get us on a false track Andres
Ah forgot the mafia don't know each other. :sweatdrop:
This has been said before on several occasions Ichigo. So we can't be 100 % sure that Sasaki is innocent...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignoramus
At the beginning of the game they didn't know each other. Maybe they do now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stig
Anyway, talking and pointing your finger at suspects and giving the mafia clues about who will get lynched, isn't a good thing to do during the night phase me thinks.
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Originally Posted by AndresTheCunning
Said that just a while ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
Your second statement is highly unlikely. They'de have to go through the same process we do to find each other by reading post's. And if someone PMed someone asking them if they were mafia don't you think that they would come out and say who did?
Yet gain who is pointing out people who they think are suspects? I've seen no one do such a thing.
CountArach was calmly walking down the main road, when he noticed a large hole up ahead. As he moved closer to investigate, someone charged from the undergrowth on the side of the road and shoved him in the hole. CountArach's horrible screams were muffled by the mafioso firing a submachine gun down after him.
Chief of Police Beirut summoned the town together in the morning.
"We have just lost another villager to the attacks of the mafia. It appears that they are becoming more desparate. Vote carefully now. And make sure you all vote!"
Still alive: (16)
Ichigo
Stig
pevergreen
Warluster
sapi
AndreasTheCunning
HughTower
GeneralHankerchief
Kommodus
ShadeHonestus
Omanes Alexandrapolites the Idiot
Warmaster Horus
Caius Flamminius
Dutch_guy
rdeče.jabolko
God's Grace
Tran
Killed:
UltraWar
Sasaki Kojiro
CountArach
Executed:
Caius Flamminius
Voting will close in 24 hours.
A question for Ignoramus: if one mafioso gets killed/lynched, will the other one know that it was his buddy so that he can pm you two targets instead of one?
If the surviving mafioso doesn't know if his buddy died, it most likely that Caius, Sasaki or UltraWar were mafia.
You've got CF on the alive list Ign.
Vote: God's Grace
Reason:........Do you really need reason?...Well?....Well, if you really need one
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Don't trust his 'innocent popey' appearance and name, or even his plan to mislead you... :stupido2:
No Andres, I think we were right in lynching Caius, the change that Sasaki and Ultra were mafia are pretty small. It could be however, but I say Caius was mafia.
However since we lynched Caius, I have no idea who to go for now
Edit: I do have someone:
Vote: Tran
Get a proper reason, voting for someone because his face doesn't suit you is a bad reason
Looks like we got one :grin2:
Nice work guys!
EDIT:
That's a really stupid vote, Tran
LOL...nice try Stig, but I won't change my vote just because you think I have no good reasonQuote:
Originally Posted by Stig
Edit: I know that people will normally vote Sapi for the act so-called 'bandwagonning' but your act won't change my vote either...
Edit 2: Are you voting for me, Sapi? Your bolding is rather confusing...and suspicious...