Reign of Ares (tbs, city mod, new units, fixes and more) to eb with bi

Yes ,i now quick battles for now dont work, I working for this.

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oh and does it work with the new patch?

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dont(mayby yes-I dont now for now), but in Roa new patch ... is added. I writing redame and this same(and more) is in RoA.
Mayby in few day I relase next 1.5 version with new ctd fix(rtr style) this fix working(for now i testing this)and without some bugs from RoA1.0.but no new units -this is 2.0 version

And you should please do something for the armenian cataphracts. I did what Watchman did in his mod and now I can recruit them in Armavir, but the EDB says they can be recruited in a whole bunch of provinces, it's the same with the armoured horse archers...

In 1.5 (and now in my comp) armenian cataphracts is recruit.

Good to hear:2thumbsup:
But there's something more to be said:
Why do seleucid Sarrisophoroi have blue helmets? Is that historical? Because these helmets look rather... well, strange.
And I think that all Sarrisophoroi should have greaves. Just a minor skin issue as the upper one, but it would add a lot of realism.
And you should lower the numbers of the Carthaginian African Elite Infantry (the sword/shield ones) because they still have 100, which is too much in comparison to 50 Thorakitai Argyraspidai or 50 Marian Legionarys.
I will now return to finding bugs and issues! To the Bugseeker-mobile!
*Batmanthememusic*

blue helmets - i don't now .But this is units from KLA and he somewhere find this blue helmets - this real. History not only grey but colourful :) .
Carthage Elite-yes my mistake.
Basileus Seleukeia - thanx , You are my best bugseeker .

Perhaps you can ask KLA why he gave blue helmets to them, and if it is not too much effort, he could perhaps correct it. But, this is not so important, this can wait. But it would be nice:2thumbsup:

For now this is not possible- comp KLA colapse. If repair computer and ending working with new units mayby ask for this. But KLA very attachment for this blue helmets :) And I too - is another for others phalangites

Oh, that's a pity. But it shouldn't be too hard for me to ignore the blue helmets. But those greaves are important I think. I hope KLA can repair his pc soon, so that he can supply us again with his skins:laugh4:

A question I'd like to ask before starting this mod....
With the high recuitment cost of Horse units, and the O turn recruitment, what kind of armies is the AI purchasing? Will i be fighting good quality mixed armies, or armies of slingers and peltasts?

I'm not doubting the mods interest - i played a couple of custom battles and found the unit stats to give some very good results. I have noticed in some mods that try unusual things that the Computer can't deal with the changes.

Thanks in advance.

As what I've seen slingers need 2 turns to be recruited. I've never really played an Campaign very long but in combination with the_errant's moneyscript the AI used balanced armys, but it may have been luck. But I highly recommend to use one of the moneyscripts as the AI will spam you to death with the old one.

Money script is added in 1.5 version. Yes this is very good result
and fixet formation ai http://files.filefront.com/testdescr.../fileinfo.html

It's me again!:laugh4:
Hypaspistai have spears, but swirl them around as if they were swords.
In your mod Illyrioi Thureophoroi and Thorakitai are weaker than normal ones, but I think that in vanilla EB the Illyrian versions were stronger, statwise.
The Chaonion Agema have 160 men, but all other elite phalangites have 100. Is this intended to be so?
And I saw that all of KLA's skins lack greaves, so they are perhaps hard to skin. That would be a reason why he did not include them.
Edit: Everything is screwed up. Every battle I try to fight on the campaign map causes a ctd, but custom battles are working for some reason. No idea what causes this.

Mini-preview of units:

https://img237.imageshack.us/img237/...rategosux5.jpg

https://img237.imageshack.us/img237/...egosux5.th.jpg

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Every battle I try to fight on the campaign map causes a ctd, but custom battles are working for some reason. No idea what causes this.

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sounds like a sprite issue

Well, I'm doing a total refresh at the moment so this will be fixed.
@KLA: Very nice skins, but as I stated above, would it be hard to add greaves to your Pezhetairoi? It's not that I don't like the current skin, but the greaves would give them the last touch and they are historical, by the way.
And I heard you really like the blue helmets of seleucid phalanx:laugh4:
How did this somewhat... strange idea develop in your head? (not meant to be offensive, but I really think something strange must have happened that someone designs blue helmets :laugh4:)

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Every battle I try to fight on the campaign map causes a ctd, but custom battles are working for some reason. No idea what causes this.

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You must adds 2 fix. Sorry for trouble. You play in RoA or TBS ?

I use RoA and I've done a total refresh of my EB installation. It took me several hours to do that, because the EB installer hung up 95% of the trys. I hated it. Couldn't test whether the problem is still there, but perhaps I'll try now. It's a bit late after all:laugh4:
Edit: Wait a moment. What do you mean with "You must add 2 fix". Did you release a second fix?

Yes - http://files.filefront.com/testdescr.../fileinfo.html this is formation ai (test) , in previous formation is bug -ctd if attack the city.

Oh, that's hard:oops: I should have expected that...
Well, by the way, when do you think version 1.5 will be ready? I'm dieing for those new units of KLA. And, of course you'll include some other gadgets, won't you:laugh4: *goingbacktosensiblemode* I'm really looking forward to 1.5

Next-1.5 version in this week. But no new units in this version. New units to be in 2.0 version.

New Pyrrus formation vs roman manipules
http://images20.fotosik.pl/380/0dc59c1d6cc15e57m.jpg

Sorry but next 1.5 version just next week . My job

Is that formation historical? I can't really imagine this being better against romans than the standard phalanx line. The gaps look weird. If this formation did exist, could you please give a short description on how to use it?

In english ? this is hard. Pyrrus using formation -some copy of roman manipulare formation . Mixed phalngites with light and heavy infantry from italian allies. But this formation is Pyrrus formation - i dont now this is only proposal from unclear note.

Could you post a source for that formation, Thorlof? Literary or academic journal?

I just want to congratulate King for his great units.

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Could you post a source for that formation, Thorlof? Literary or academic journal?

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Eh, this is hard. Mayby from Kęcik or Razin, I dont remember. I read this books months ago and write in my notebook this one sentence for this formation. :sweatdrop:

Ah! How dare you post without RoA 1.5! Begone, slave!:whip:
:laugh4:

Hi I am a new user of the forum, anyone can say me if this mod is compatible with mercenaries script
Thank you and this mod it's very good

Yes, it is compatible, but I don't know if the mercenary file does change the cost of the mercenarys, as the mod does change the prices a lot.

Hi
I have another question
in the next version you will implement the Watchman's mod? And if yes fully or only some features of this.
Thank you

Please anyone can answer to me?

Sorry , im very busy. Watchman's mod is not implement to my ,but some things is similary.

Ok I understand thank you thorlof
it compliments for the mod it's cool

And it also seems, that though there ae the latest versions of First Cohort Mod (1.3) and MAA City Mod (2.1), upgraded to fit the latest EB 0.81a v2, Watchman has still not released his mod updated to v2 patch.

Thorrlof, the Download links for the RoA 1.0 fix are corrupted. Found this out as I tried to re-install your mod because I de-installed it in order to play EB-Multiplayer.

In monday I relase 1.5 version. now I testing this version.

Shegadelic Baby!:laugh4:

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Eh, this is hard. Mayby from Kęcik or Razin, I dont remember. I read this books months ago and write in my notebook this one sentence for this formation. :sweatdrop:

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This is my take on it, Thorlof: I would remove the formation. It doesn't make sense tactically and Pyrrhos would have used it (if he did ever use it) once, see that it failed, and never use it again.

Those are just my thoughts, but feel free to disregard them.

Thorlof ...can u post all the requirement need for the next version of ROA

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This is my take on it, Thorlof: I would remove the formation. It doesn't make sense tactically and Pyrrhos would have used it (if he did ever use it) once, see that it failed, and never use it again.

Those are just my thoughts, but feel free to disregard them.

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I would test if the AI can handle it. Imho formation mods should always aim for better AI rather than historical correctness. If it's an improvement to the vannilla formations use it.

I relase 1.5 version http://files.filefront.com/Reign_of_.../fileinfo.html
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=84489
PS I change Pyrrhos formation to more rational phalanx and spearmen line.

Hello and my congratulations Thorlof.
Could you please release a version of your mod with only the units for CB (and the EDU modified to add the new units not other changes from the original EB edu).
That way I can continue my campaign and play some CB with the new ones in your mod (great skins).
Is this possible?

At Last! The new version is completed! Muhahahaha *cough* *cough*
I already tried it out and saw that some things are not fixed already, but that's no offense, I know that you're busy and perhaps did not read the post in which I stated them.
Galatikoi Lavotuxri still have 100 men.
Dorkim Poeni still uses the shieldwall.
Elephants still have that archer floating on their back. I know that it is very difficult to move that archer,so perhaps you should change the skelleton of the archer to the one Horse-Archers use, that would work I think.
And Illyrioi Thureophoroi and Thorakitai are still weaker than their hellenic cousins.
Otherwise, great mod, now we finally have a fully fleshed out set of roman allies!
Edit: Epeirotean Hypaspistai still wave their long spears around as if they were swords.
Both of the Pontik Thorakitai versions have no sprites, when zooming out they turn into a fuzzy mix of coulours.
Euozonoi have no UI. They still use the "black peasant" icon.

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Galatikoi Lavotuxri still have 100 men.
Dorkim Poeni still uses the shieldwall.
Elephants still have that archer floating on their back. I know that it is very difficult to move that archer,so perhaps you should change the skelleton of the archer to the one Horse-Archers use, that would work I think.
And Illyrioi Thureophoroi and Thorakitai are still weaker than their hellenic cousins.Epeirotean Hypaspistai still wave their long spears around as if they were swords.
Both of the Pontik Thorakitai versions have no sprites, when zooming out they turn into a fuzzy mix of coulours.
Euozonoi have no UI. They still use the "black peasant" icon.

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I now, this my oblivion from hurry. I must down my comp in few days mayby week.After this i relase fix to this version. Mayby another bug is discovered.
Redmeth -no problem new units to clean EB (only in CB) and some change skins in older units from EB- this is surpise
http://files.filefront.com/new_units.../fileinfo.html

Thank you but after an install I got an error about descr_mount I copied it from RoA 1.5 but now it still gives me an error when trying to start EB

What error - mounts ? Mayby this f.. elephants . Copy please this error to post.

After installing I get "error loading mount database" and after i click ok then "script error in descr_mount line 390 col 1 elephant indian cataphract".
After i copy descr_mount from RoA 1.51 I get this error export_descr_unit at line 1287 col 1 stat_pri_armour statistic missing from unit type "numidian light infantry"

1. Change numidian light infantry in EDU to this. My mystake from hurry
;roa16
type numidian light infantry
dictionary numidian_linf ; Numidian Light Infantry
category infantry
class light
voice_type General_1
soldier numidian_linf, 40, 0, 0.99
mount_effect elephant +6, chariot +6, horse -8
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_sap
formation 1.2, 1.2, 1.2, 1.2, 4, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 5, 0, javelin, 50, 4, thrown, archery, piercing, spear, 25 ,1
stat_pri_attr prec, thrown
stat_sec 8, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 0 ,0.225
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 5, 9, 5, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 0
stat_ground 1, 10, -2, -10
stat_mental 10, normal, trained
stat_charge_dist 40
stat_fire_delay -55000
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 1650, 790, 30, 50, 250
ownership egypt, slave

2. Hm i dont now . Add to clean EB mount this line
type iberian horse
class horse
model iberian_horse
radius 1.5
x_radius 0.5
height 2.5
mass 4.5
banner_height 0
bouyancy_offset 1.4
water_trail_effect horse_water_trail
root_node_height 1.6
rider_offset 0.0, 0.3, 0.0

;and change or adds
type camel ; DO NOT REMOVE
class camel
model camel
radius 1.5
x_radius 0.57 ;changed from 0.5 29/4/05
height 2.5
mass 3.5
banner_height 0
bouyancy_offset 1.8
water_trail_effect camel_water_trail
root_node_height 1.52
rider_offset 0, 0.43, -0.2

mayby working.

Now i get a carthaginian infantry dhorkim khosim error in the edu.
Using the descr_mount from RoA because even after doing the changes i still got an error expecting unit name.
Don't bother yourself too much with this if you can make it work it would be nice but if not no problem

I forget - dhorkim khosim this is secret band
change this line in edu in
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type carthaginian infantry dorkim kdoshim
dictionary carthaginian_infantry_dorkim_kdoshim ; Dorkim Kdosim
category infantry
class spearmen
voice_type General_1
soldier carthaginian_infantry_sacredbandphalanx, 40, 0, 1.33
mount_effect horse +2, camel +2, elephant -1
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_sap, hardy
formation 1, 1.2, 2, 2.4, 4, square, phalanx
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 15, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, spear, 0 ,0.15
stat_pri_attr spear
stat_sec 12, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 0 ,0.13
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 14, 8, 5, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 2
stat_ground 0, 0, -4, -3
stat_mental 18, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 2695, 674, 80, 110, 2695
ownership egypt, slave

to
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type carthaginian infantry dorkim kdoshim
dictionary carthaginian_infantry_dorkim_kdoshim ; Dorkim Kdosim
category infantry
class spearmen
voice_type General_1
soldier Carthaginian_Sacred_Band, 40, 0, 1.33
mount_effect horse +2, camel +2, elephant -1
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_sap, hardy
formation 1, 1.2, 2, 2.4, 4, square, phalanx
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 15, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, spear, 0 ,0.15
stat_pri_attr spear
stat_sec 12, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 0 ,0.13
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 14, 8, 5, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 2
stat_ground 0, 0, -4, -3
stat_mental 18, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 2695, 674, 80, 110, 2695
ownership egypt, slave

sorry for trouble

I click to the link, but in filefront there is the rar version 1a as I read, and I saw that there are some bugs, are bugs light or are bugs that they cause CTD? making unplayable the game, and for the fix how time need for the release?
Thank you thorlof for the time that you dedicate to this nice mod

You have to use the link in the first post of this thread.

Ok after doing the 2 changes in the edu (dorkim dhosim and the numidian infantry) and adding to the clean EB descr_mount the 2 lines I still get an error in descr_mount about could not find battle model for indian elephant cataphracts...

I gave up on trying to make it work and reinstalled EB because many things changed like the names and stuff.
The one thing I used from your battle system (TBS) was descr_formations_AI great job on it. And it worked well until 0.40 I think.
But this last one in 0.41 gives me crashes in battles it's the only file I changed in my new clean EB 0.81av2 install.
Using descr_formations and descr_formations_AI I get a crash when I click Start Deployment.
Is the last descr_formations_AI tied to your EDU?
Can you post a descr_formations_AI that can work on its own only with a clean EB with or without BI?
I appreciate all your work but for me the thing I like most is your formations.

formation working in EB with BI only (sorry) In 0.41 is bug in formation and must use fix or formation from RoA 1.5.
elephant hm mayby descr_mount with data folder from RoA (not from EB folder in RoA) with elephant helpful.

Hey I love the extra units thorlof but im completely confused, Im currently playing a campaign as the Greeks and I have built my cities up but I dont see the extra hoplite units to recruit!? Am i waiting for a reform or something??

A lot of the new Hoplite units are for custom battles only. Look at the first post, there is a unit list, and the units which have a (CB) after their name are only for custom battles.

Well i had seen that, but there are still a lot of new hoplite units that are for campaign and I havent figured out how to recruit them?? And if the Athenian hoplites arent available why start them in the campaign??? I want to be able to retrain them!

your ideas of the inca civilization interest me.
i believe that one day we will be able to live like they once did
thats like saying king arthur was a king:oops:

i want to be an inca ruler:whip:
it is so pationately amazing
i would love to rule you all
and be the intense warrior that i am:egypt:

Why is not possible to recruit the spartiates and athenaioi hoplite? they are very good especially against some elite seleucids and Macedonians but in fact the skins for the spartiates is not very historic

You ood-for-nothin empiror.
Ho do you feel insultin hat I deeply believin.
Your ords were deep . . . . in h***!!!!!!

Mod Edit:Please do not copy (plagiarize) material from websites without giving mention of credit to the source. This seems unrelated to the thread, anyways.

Ok well I played as Epeirus now and I found that i could recruit taratine and syracusin hoplites. I think you should change some of the old numbers back and I think you should take away the 2HP it makes some battles go for a rediculously long time. But as far as unit numbers I think all the phalanx units should go back from 150 to 240. The elite units with only 100 is good though and I think the non elite cavalry units should go back to their original size as well.

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recruit "athenian_hoplite" 0 requires factions { greek_cities, } and hidden_resource SW and hidden_resource C and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource y8
You mus copy this line to EDB to the barracks greek_city faction - city_barracks_I1, army_barracks_I1, royal_barracks_I1. but this is units from IVcentury not III.

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I think you should take away the 2HP it makes some battles go for a rediculously long time. But as far as unit numbers I think all the phalanx units should go back from 150 to 240. The elite units with only 100 is good though and I think the non elite cavalry units should go back to their original size as well.

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I working with 1hp but this is long way to end. Unit numbers - this is 2 EDU. 1 with historical number (1/10) and more power to barbarians. Standard civilized -100inf, 50cav., barbarian-200inf, 80cav. But, barbarians is good in attack but defend is very poor.
2. file in -2hp with eb number soldiers- this is orginal numbers of troops from EB

Hi Thorlof
can you give also the line for Korinthos Hoplitai and Euboieis Hoplitai to paste?
and txt where I must paste is the desc_unit?

Thank you

recruit "Euboean_Hoplite" 0 requires factions { greek_cities, thrace, } and hidden_resource SW and hidden_resource C and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource y8
this line to this building so Athenoi
or if macedon to city_barracks_K1, army_barracks_K1, royal_barracks_K1 this line
recruit "Euboean_Hoplite" 0 requires factions { macedon, } and hidden_resource SW and hidden_resource C and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource y8

to korinthos
recruit "corinthian_hoplite" 0 requires factions { greek_cities, thrace, } and hidden_resource SW and hidden_resource C and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource y8
to this same buidings
and
recruit "corinthian_hoplite" 0 requires factions { macedon, } and hidden_resource SW and hidden_resource C and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource y8
to this same macedon barracks

OK, so if I want both Macedon and Greek cities to recruit Corinthian and Euboean hoplites, should the line look like:
(...) requires factions { greek_cities, thrace, macedon, } (...)?

thank you very much Thorlof

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OK, so if I want both Macedon and Greek cities to recruit Corinthian and Euboean hoplites, should the line look like:
(...) requires factions { greek_cities, thrace, macedon, } (...)?

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I think no because the barracs of macedon and the barracs of greeks and epirotes are different, greek_cities, thrace I think that can do but macedon must stay a part from greek thrace

OK, so it seems that I have to add the appropriate lines to both greek_cities and macedon barracks separately - then both Greeks and Macedons could recruits these hoplites (if only willing to do so).

Thisa is small fix to RoA 1.5 http://files.filefront.com/RoA15fixr.../fileinfo.html

Will this be compatible with EB 8.1?

I've installed roa1.5 on top of 0.81 v2 and everything goes well for now.

@thorlof:
If I use the eb unit numbers file, the relation between units numbers and stats is the same? or does unbalance your battlesystem?


btw Thanks thorlof!!!

Yes this is unbalance. Barbarian is weaker.

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