My Xfire name: marseu
usually connected in labour days at 22.00
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My Xfire name: marseu
usually connected in labour days at 22.00
Important hamchi update increases conectivity, see first post for details. Should solve the problems you are having Caveira.
Thanks, mAIOR:2thumbsup:
hi everybody :D
on x-fire i am tiduslionheart.
I downloaded everything, my X-fire name is penguinlobster
OK fellas I got tired of my EASY A** Aedui campain, having a non challenging AI, limited time to play, not being able to play MP (old version of EB), and a save that didn't go through just did it for me. ~:pissed:
anywho.... today at 5:45am I downloaded the Final version of EB. And tonight I will update hamchi and try to knock out a Mo'Fo' or two :boxing: (or not :skull: )
my: X-file name is 1stNeoSpartan for those who don't have it. I'll be online later today at around 11:00pm Eastern Standard Time.
my xfire name is iasonis(yea i know, original), i can usually be found on around 0000-0400 eastern standard time.
Anyone wanna play EB multiplayer? add me msn juvenilz@hotmail.com
X-Fire please.Quote:
Originally Posted by disiz
I would like to suggest a better method than using hamachi. Much more simple to use battlenet. Once people get in touch with each other they just add each others ip-adresses to the battlenetlist and play. And you dont even have to disconnect your internet.
Contact me on juvenilz@hotmail.com or simply reply here
so now i got an xfire account too. It's shurikenstar
I second the use of BattleLAN, if thats what you're referring to. Its just a simple box to enter IPs into, and as long as everyone enters in the others' IPs we should be LANed within RTW.
I have to mention that I won't be avaible.Lightning struck our house,and internet messed up.Its partly fixed,but its not working on my computer.So no MP for me.Also,I also agree to that BattleLAN thing.Hamachi just seems like a bit to much work.
could you please post some more info here for all the folks to see about the method mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by disiz
http://home.comcast.net/~sonicsmart/battlelan.html
for those who havent heard of google...
google.com, you should try it ;P
PS: x-fire: elthore
My x-fire helenos
guildname Ritterlichvon86
xfirename ritterlichvon86
sometimes online around 6 to 9pm
Hello all ! :)
Defeat the CPU is boring so my brother Ackero and I want to play against human generals.
Add "ackero" and "haldam" to your friends ;)
hey id like to meet some ppl playin online
add kozak101 plz usually online in afternoon and evening 4pm-varying
hey yall im gonna start playin online too,
my name will be the same as here madmatg, cant wait to play!
i will usually be around somewhere between 7pm-2am CST
one suggestion, as for the network name on hamachi i will be opening another network called EBmultiplayer1, and EBmultiplayer2. so that we will have a few more spots
Xfire=beanjitsu
veteren RTRMP player, looking to play EB!
also the battlenet idea sounds great, i might look into it and download it.
BEANJISTU!!!!!!!!!!!!So good to see you again!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanjitsu
I got a new comp and I downloaded plat 1.9 and EB .81 so get on x-fire man!!!!
bean himself back from the oblivion:beam:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanjitsu
good to see you buddy. unfortunately my copy of EB is so heavily edited (fixed some minor flaws etc) that i wont get a similar data with any one. should have kept a separate copy for MP:wall: though i still can if folks are still active in here.
im still active if your up for a game, or if anyone is up for a game i'll be available to play fairly often, i am on CST (i think -6 GMT) but i can really be around anytime on tues or thursday's except 12-2, and MWF after 6pm til about 2am. so if anyone wants a go send me a pm or better yet friend me on xfire and write me a message saying when you wanna play, im dying to learn how to play against real people lol.
HOLLY S**********!
I am hooked, I am hooked!!!!!!!!!!!!
I gotta fight somebody at least once a day now. :boxing:
I have lost interest in SP (due in part to a CTD ruinning my AS campain, and I don't feel like continuing my KH, or Romani campain any time soon).
Do you still play with hamachi? It didnt work on my comp.
So if not.. anyone wanna play a MP-battle tonight?
EDIT: Beanjitsu! And Conan! Are you guys stil alive? :P Long time since! Remember me? ;P Sarkiss, Conan, Bean... soon all the RTR-vets will be here. :)
hi there, buddy.:beam:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lovejoy
i recently played quite a few EB MP games on GS and it was surprisingly stable.
Well my PC doesn't like Game Spy, I just can't connect to a hosted game nor can people connect to my hosted games.
So I gotta roll with Hamachi, which is OK.
I am usually up at 12:00am EST. (so is madmatg and Gaius)
This looks fun. I'm getting tired of the bland old vanilla RTW multi-player.
x-fire: totalwarfanatic
Question: Why do we need xfire?
I'm usually on sometime between 3 and 7 EST, which is between 7 and 11 GMT atm. I'd love to play right now...
I was surprised by the inactivity. EB MP is like having a supermodel girlfriend who likes sports and hates shopping. You'd think people would drool over such a wonderful combination.
Free balloons to those who join me.:balloon2: :balloon2: :balloon2:
madmatg told me u are up between 7pm-10pm EST, I'll see if I can swing by around that time sometime this week.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWFanatic
sorry man and I feel ur pain
Yeah last time I ended up leaving as I went out. Next time you shall not escape me! You shall choke on the blood of your soldiers... :p
Cheers...
:inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by mAIOR
https://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g...-me-500005.jpg
p.s I have exams this week so I might not be on as ofter as I usually am :no:
I was talking to TWFanatic... you just posted immediatly before me :)
But, you'll choke too... Everyone will die MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
Lol, I can't wait. Glad to see the enthusiasm.
The Hamachi network's allways full. Just made a new network called "BurakukuTW" and the pass is "EB" if anyone's interested. I think it would be a good ideea to make a second official network like "EBmultiplayerII" since this one's full all the time if there's a possibility for that. Or maybe is just my connection?
no need man no needQuote:
Originally Posted by Burakuku
Go to EBmultiplayer2 password EB
ok so NeoSpartan, TWFanatic and i have been playin a good deal lately
and have come up with some "fixes" for multiplayer
A. we are messing with sling stats to bring them down some as they seem a bit unbalanced for MP as everyone normally wants as many as possible because of their strength against armor
so for now we have taken 1 attack point from each slinger(we weakened accensi by subtracting 1 from each of their mount effects, as they are aready at 1 attack)
B. The soldurus have had their spears taken away, becasue of the dreaded switch to secondary weapon bug(which makes them little used in MP), so they have been switched solely to swords, they still get the cav bonus like they have a spear so the animation looks off but the effect should stay the same.
On the topic of spears we also took out all the short spear attributes, as they were causing spearmen to suck in close combat
C. The galatian wild men have had their cost moved to the same price as the gaestaste(sp) of europe.
hope these rules dont keep too many people out. if you play MP somewhat often you can definitely have a say in how this works so dont be afraid if you dont like something we will be changing alot, probly until EB 1.0 comes out.
heres the link to the file: this file goes into Rome - Total War/EB/Data
You must have a fresh version of EB to do this with or it will not be compatible.
Mine still doesn't work. I use all the steps and when I reconnect everyone in the lan chat room seems to see what I say but I don't see anything they say. It's kinda strange and frustrating. Can't figure it out. Reinstalled Hamachi, changed firewall settings in any way possible, changed my nick (which seemed stupid). I still think that it's a firewall problem but the 1st time it worked. Also it could be some Network Places option... I am very confused and frustrated. I will reinstal the game, then hamachi version 1.5 and try again. If still doesn't work... I will try 'till it will. "If I don't find a wat I will make one". :wall:
Madtag, if you're interested, me and Pharnakes have made some extensive changes to the EDU. If you want them I can send them together with the change logs.Quote:
Originally Posted by madmatg
Cheers...
my x-fire: bellatorlugha
on EBmultiplayer2 : bellator Lugha
surely send em along!
k so one minor change i the edu, acfidently put the hellenic slingers at 1 attack instead of 2 so its fixed and ready to download at the same link as the old one, its back up a few posts, or here if your lazy like me :D
Good work lads. This should balance some things out and improve gameplay. I can't wait to use archers. :2thumbsup:
My LAN still doesn't work. I tried everything, from firewall settings to uninstall and reinstall and I still think that it's a Hamachi problem. Some guys reported that they can both see me in the lobby and what I write in the lobby, but I don't see them or what they say. I've also search the net but didn't find a similar problem. Maybe it will work on 1.0.
P.S Thanks alot for your help Madmatg and Bellator. :)
You guys should make like a
EB MP WOrld Heavyweight Title
That you guys can play for. Mabye that would increase interest
I would like that:yes:
Quote:
Originally Posted by {BHC}KingWarman888
hum.... maybe... you the Factions are not "balanced" since this is a historical game.
Some factions will outpreform others depending on how much $$ you will get. Ex: AS, preforms really good in LOTS of $$ (50K and up), and lil $$ battles (20k-30k). Its more easely beaten in regular $$ (30k-40k)
Aedui/Arveni do REALLY bad in short $$ campains, in medium $$ they do thier best, in Big $$ you have to get lucky.
We have to set ruls, but we probably need to make some more Specific Rulz.
We are still trying to balance Slingers... they are just too much.
however.... one day... we could do something like this.
One tip in MP campains. It can go either way... U win some u loose some, there is no "all time best" we learn from eachother.
Hi everyone, being a dedicated TW fan since shogun but this is my first post.Great mod, I'd rather play EB than MTW2 any day lol. X-fire name is tarquiniussuperbus, I want to see how i'll fare without my beloved pause button!
Gave up on Hamachi. Just wanted to say that my nick on Gamespy is Black. If you guys play there, meet me in X-fire ID: Burakuku.
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoSpartan
Yea..... I been playing TW MP for 3 1/2 years, I know of what you mean. :yes:
Yes man, we need some rules. I've noticed that ppl usualy play without any upgrades and I don't like it that much. Neither will I like to play with lots of upgrades but I'm thinking about something like... having a maximum of 1 upgrade per category at least. I mean only red upgrades and only a max of 1 exp per unit (1 sword, 1 shield, 1 exp per unit). Also we've played with max of 2 or 3 slingers 'cuz they're so strong. So I guess we should put it to vote.
Rules:
1. Slingers limited to a max of 2 or 3 per army.
2. Horse archers need to be limited. Maybe 6, 7 or 8?
3. Maybe: The maximum number of upgrades limited to: 1 max sword, 1 max armor 1 max exp per unit.
4. Maximum number of phalanxes to 5, 6 or 7?
5. Maybe: Maximum number of Gaesatae/Galatikoi Tindanotae is 2, 3 or 4?
P.S. Feel free to edit any rule if you think yours is better and to post new ones if you have any ideeas.
You can't play oin those rules. I mean Parthia and the Nomad factions have a lot of archers and HA. You just have to deal with it. I agree with the sling limit tough.
As for the Elites, and Ellies, I thinjk that's redundant. If you want to throw a lot of elites you'll have a small weak army.
As for Ellies they're expensive as hell and easilly dealt with.
Cheers...
just posted the first AAR in the AAR MP thread go check it out and play MP!
OK. No limit on elites and elephantes then I agree. What about foot archers and HA? You dont want any limit for those? I mean, if my opponents plays a 20 Ha army I will play a 20 phalanx army and that's not EB. I'm not a bug fan of rules myself, but guys here say we need some rules for both realism and gameplay. I myself like to play with upgrades, but I've noticed that most of the guys don't. Also I like elites but the first few games I've played there was a max of 4 elites per army rule. What I am trying to say is that we need to go for some rules that would make everyone happy. I wll reedit my post now.
Well, in an historical parthian army you'd have more than half the army with bows. So, it's realism.
AS for the elites I stated my point. you try and pit an army with just hypaspist against a balanced seleucid army. You'd loose big time.
The beauty of EB is that there are no units powerfull enough to win battles against a balanced army.
Cheers...
i agree with you on Nomads and Hay but disagree on the elites. i had a game against such an army and even though their right completely broke and routed the few remaining elites broke my left and stood their ground. they are better in a prolonged fight: better stamina, morale, attack/defence status, often more men per unit. so even though they were partially surrounded, my tired, inferior troops were eventually routed. was a close fight though and you need more than just an elite unit to win still, in a prolonged fight they prevail and more often than not its them who turn the tide of a battle.Quote:
Originally Posted by mAIOR
my 2 cents.:charge:
OK, I agree with you regarding nomads and archers in general. Though regarding elites can't agree. But there are elites and elites. For example, you can get 1 unit of Iberian Assault Inf for 2600 mnai with some armor and sword upgrades. That's not that expensive and trust me that for the same money 6 iberians (15600 mnai) can break 10 normal units if the player's skill allows it because if u manage to protect your flanks your iberians will kill faster and will also rout alot harder. No ideea why I argue about elites! I love them! :PQuote:
Originally Posted by mAIOR
P.S I'm not trying to impose anyone what army to play with just trying to minimize spamming and maximize skill and realism.
I understand. Nor am I. We are just debating :)
Now, it depends what you consider elites. For me, elites are the best of the best. For instance, Imperial legionaires are not elites on my terms however, they're extremely good professional troops.
Cheers...
Ok for some reason my post didn't go through but here it is again:
--The 2-3 slingers is good, for now..... However if ur facing a HA army then is ok to get as many slingers/archers as you want.
--The elites cap is bs man. UNLESS we are playing with 50K or above you will not be able to afford a LOT of elites. Also, elites are hard but u gotta know how to beat them. Do not expect to just throw ur men at them, that works, but ur risking the rest of ur battle line.
--Now Up Grades.... here is my "Beef" with upgrades
I understand (as Mad explained to me and we tested) that upgrades have a proportional cost across untis. The cost will vary depending on the units # of men, and their attack/defense stats, but it will be propertional. Elite units have to pay more for thier upgrades than regular units, light units pay even less.
HOWEVER, the cost of the unit itself is NEITHER proportional, NOR balanced. Meaning, depending on the faction you are playing the given budject will dictate (1) How many units u can get (2) how many upgrades you can give. And unfortunaly the faction that has to pay the most for its army has less money to upgrade.
Let me give you an example:
-Aedui vs Imperial Romani, budget 40k (big $$ battle)
--The Aedui have a disadvantage when it comes to costs. Their normal units are rather cheap but are not great, the ONLY decetly costing unit (2200+) and has good stats are the Mori Gaesum, the rest are expensive (2600-3300) and they STILL get beat by Imp. Legions on a regular map. HOWEVER, Gallic heavy cavarly can beat Cavarly Auxilia. That, along with Geasatae scarying infantry, is the best thing the Gauls have going for them. But, due to the cost of thier units and the bad preformance of their normal units the Gallic army will usually be a few units short, or have a lot of normla not so good units.
--The Romani on the other had, have an easier time getting thier troops. Cheap but extremely good legions but decent cavarly. SO the smart ROmani player will upgrade thier cavarly to match/beat the Gallic one. This is made posible because he only has to pay 2400+ for an Imp. Legion, while the Gallic player had to pay 3200-3300 for a Soldurus, Cornetus, and Gaesatae, or pay 2600+ for a Neitos that is a not as good the previews three.
--So what ends up happeing, the Romani player can have a full stack of good units AND STILL have $$ left for upgrades. While the Gallic player will have to cut his army even shorter to afford the upgrades. On top of that, IF the Gallic players tries to upgrade his normal units they still will be no match to the Romani.
--As you can see, the faction with the most cost-to-benefit advantege ends up being given even a bigger advantege by updrades.
See where I am going with this...... Somebody is being made worst off.
NOW... HOLD ON A SECOND! THESE RULES SHOULD NOT BE WRITTEN IS STONE. BEFORE THE BATTLE PLAYERS CAN CHOOSE TO FOLLOW THEM OR MAKE THIER OWN!!!!
Something that could be done with regards to upgrades that I can live with (as I can tell I am really not a fan of MP upgrades) is after both sides have chosen thier armies. Give out $1000 extra solely to upgrade whatever units they will like. This way, the guy who has the "weaker" (that depends on the players skills and luck in the game) faction doesn't have to cut his army short to do upgrades.
The upgrades can be fixed from the EDU file. Right now they're so unbalanced that carthaginian phalanx's upgrade for armour is only 100 mnai while the makedonian elite phalanx costs 691 mnai for upgrading armour. We should try to fix that when 1.0 comes up.
Well, why don't you guys then make three titles for three different type of battles, defined by the $$ you may spend?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoSpartan
Well actually we do...
they are commonly called: (at least when I am around to play, 12am-3am Eastern Standard Time US)
1-Broke Money: 15k-29K
2-Normal Money: 30K-39K
3-Big Money: 40k-46K
4-Really Big Money: 47K and above.
However, there is no "rule" to which factions a player can choose. You play with whomever you want, but u have to be aware of the consequences.
On the upgrades:
-I think I heard that the EB team was going to make some chages to the upgrades, not just in cost but also in their effect.
as of right now i think anyone who wants to play MP should definitely keep .81 or hold off on 1.0 for the time being, as after trying with 3 different people we have had no success in running the game on MP, everytime it gives a not the same game data screen when someone hosts. just a heads up i'm sure it'll get fixed eventually but for any of you who have become addicted to MP(like me) make sure you keep .81 til it does get fixed
it might be map.rwm fileQuote:
Originally Posted by madmatg
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...90#post1707190
btw, i already uninlstalleed and deleted 0.8 and all its traces lol.
Yes, this is the mpa.rwm problem. appearently it seems, that we have forgotten to add one.
If you want to play multiplayer all players need to have the same map.rwm file (it is placed in your eb/data/world/maps/base folder) One of the players need to upload his map.rwm and all other need to download it and replace their own file with this one, only then you will be able to join a multiplayer game.
Too late for that. Have to reinstall rome and 0.81. Darn!Quote:
Originally Posted by madmatg
doea someone wanna delete their map.rwm file, start anew campaign, and upload their new map.rwm file onto this thread?
if not i will do it sunday night or monday morning when i get back to my comp, cant wait to play EB 1.0 MP!
here it is
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BNKR8XHZ
goes to eb/data/world/maps/base folder
dont forget to replace the original edu with custom one in your EB/Data first though. it will not automatically overwrite it so what i did is changed custom edu's name to what it should have been and then replaced.
wait what custom edu are we using now? for 1.0 we dont havea custom one yet? are you talkin about the MP edu?
custom edu is in EB, in "mp custom game edu" folder.Quote:
Originally Posted by madmatg
i am getting lost here fellas.....:dizzy2:
I think Sarkiss means: "Rome - Total War/EB/mp custom game edu" right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarkiss
yepQuote:
Originally Posted by Burakuku
Hey! After viewing the units in the unit cards, I was surprised to see some inconsistency amongst the armor values. Who agrees we should make some changes in the EDU so to fix these (for instance Thracian Peltast unit has the same defense value as the regular Peltast but, it has two extra leg greeves)?
Cheers...
hey were can I find the new cards.....Quote:
Originally Posted by mAIOR
btw I won't be in MP for the next week I got midterm exams comming up :wall:
New cards are in the documentation folder, uploaded to your Rome - Total War folder with the EB v1.0 download.
I'm back guys, however no eb for me now as I don't have a decent enough comp, this one i'm using can't even run vannila let alone eb:bigcry:. At the very least though I will now keep the first post up to date, however it realy would be better if someone else would take over the administration, with a new thread, as I no longer know what you guys are using to play. Just before I left I seem to remember some mention of battle net? did that ever take off? Well, hope you all have a great time with eb mp people, words cannot describe how jealous I am:furious2:
Well a lot of people can get into battle net...
EXEPT FOR ME :wall:, and Gaius, (and maybe some other people I don't know). I have a wireless connection and everytime I log in my internet changes the IP address so I couldn't get the router to allow RTW in via an ip address because it will change it right after. :no: Gaius doesn't have his CD key for MP.
Barakuku (sp) can't get his hamachi to work, madmatg was trying to help him but it didn't work. (there maybe some other people how can't get hamachi running)
Who's Gaius? As for the rest, I can't help you people, my uni's internet policy prohibits any program not directly pluged into a browser from conecting to the internet:no:
he rarely posts but he lurks around...