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Re: In Vermont, nascent secession movement gains traction
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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Isnt it going badly then for Texas? I mean its the other way around today no? Soon Strike will only be speaking Spanish :laugh4:
Who says speaking Spanish, having a hot Latino girlfriend, and conquering Mexico are mutually exclusive? ~;)
I say, San Antonio will soon be the capital of the new Latin (America) Empire. Viva la Texas!
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Re: In Vermont, nascent secession movement gains traction
Just becuase you're brown doesnt mean you cant be a Texan. We dont need to conquer Mexico ethier we have all the best of Mexico right here. Were like a big Belgium with cowboy hats and oil
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Latin (America) Empire
Los Angeles already has that title.
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Just becuase you're brown doesnt mean you cant be a Texan.
Hey Im no racist. My point is soon there will be more legal citizens of Mexico living in Texas than legal americans living there. Then they will annex it back to Mexico :laugh4:
Just like Kosovo
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Re: In Vermont, nascent secession movement gains traction
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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Hey Im no racist. My point is soon there will be more legal citizens of Mexico living in Texas than legal americans living there. Then they will annex it back to Mexico :laugh4:
Just like Kosovo
lol have you ever been here? The mexicans dont want to go back (except the very rich) Trust me Texas mexicans and mexican mexicans are very very different
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The mexicans dont want to go back
Who said anything about going back? :dizzy2:
And if Texas can leave then so can we
NewYork
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New York's gross state product in 2005 was $963.5 billion, ranking third in size behind the larger states of California and Texas.[7] If New York were an independent nation, it would rank as the 16th largest economy in the world behind South Korea. Its 2005 per capita personal income was $40,072, an increase of 4.2% from 2004, placing it fifth in the nation behind Maryland, and eighth in the world behind Ireland. New York's agricultural outputs are dairy products, cattle and other livestock, vegetables, nursery stock, and apples. Its industrial outputs are printing and publishing, scientific instruments, electric equipment, machinery, chemical products, and tourism.
New York exports a wide variety of goods such as foodstuffs, commodities, minerals, manufactured goods, cut diamonds, and automobile parts. New York's five largest export markets in 2004 were Canada ($30.2 billion), United Kingdom ($3.3 billion), Japan ($2.6 billion), Israel ($2.4 billion), and Switzerland ($1.8 billion). New York's largest imports are oil, gold, aluminum, natural gas, electricity, rough diamonds, and lumber.
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New York City is the leading center of banking, finance and communication in the United States and is the location of the New York Stock Exchange, the largest stock exchange in the world by dollar volume. Many of the world's largest corporations are based in the city.
The state also has a large manufacturing sector that includes printing and the production of garments, furs, railroad equipment and bus line vehicles. Many of these industries are concentrated in upstate regions. Albany and the Hudson Valley are major centers of nanotechnology and microchip manufacturing, while the Rochester area is important in photographic equipment and imaging.
New York is a major agricultural producer, ranking among the top five states for agricultural products including dairy, apples, cherries, cabbage, potatoes, onions, maple syrup and many others. The state is the largest producer of cabbage in the U.S. The state has about a quarter of its land in farms and produced US$3.4 billion in agricultural products in 2001. The south shore of Lake Ontario provides the right mix of soils and microclimate for many apple, cherry, plum, pear and peach orchards. Apples are also grown in the Hudson Valley and near Lake Champlain. The south shore of Lake Erie and the southern Finger Lakes hillsides have many vineyards. New York is the nation's third-largest grape-producing state, behind California, and second largest wine producer by volume. In 2004, New York's wine and grape industry brought US$6 billion into the state economy. The state has 30,000 acres (120 km²) of vineyards, 212 wineries, and produced 200 million bottles of wine in 2004. A moderately sized saltwater commercial fishery is located along the Atlantic side of Long Island. The principal catches by value are clams, lobsters, squid, and flounder.
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New York boasts the most extensive and one of the oldest transportation infrastructures in the country.
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New York City is home to the most complex and extensive transportation network in the United States, with more than 12,000 iconic yellow cabs,[8] 120,000 daily bicyclists,[9] a massive subway system, bus and railroad systems, immense airports, landmark bridges and tunnels, ferry service and even an aerial commuter tramway. About one in every three users of mass transit in the United States and two-thirds of the nation's rail riders live in New York and its suburbs.
We sure would have a capitol :beam: Or would we keep it in that dump called Albany. Never could figure how it got there.
For those of you who think NY is all city :beam:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Mtn_Bridge.jpg
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The state has a strong imbalance of payments with the federal government. New York state receives 82 cents in services for every $1 it sends in taxes to the federal government in Washington.[11] The state ranks near the bottom, in 42nd place, in federal spending per tax dollar.
We supply welfare for the rest of the nation LOL :wall:
New York
Any other rebels about?
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As of 2006, Texas, for the first time, has more Fortune 500 company headquarters (56) than any other state (California has 55; ironically, it was due to the move of
Fluor Corp. from California to Texas). This has been attributed to both the growth in population in Texas and the rise of oil prices in 2005, which resulted in the growth in revenues of many Texas oil drilling and processing companies.
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Texas's growth is often attributed to the availability of jobs, the low cost of housing (housing values in the Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio areas, while generally rising, have not risen at the astronomical rates of other cities such as San Francisco), the lack of a personal
state income tax, low taxation and limited regulation of
business, a geographic location in the center of the country, limited government (the
Texas Legislature meets only once every two years), favorable climate in many areas of the state, and vast, plentiful supplies of oil and natural gas. The known petroleum deposits of Texas are about 8 billion barrels, which makes up approximately one-third of the known U. S. supply. Texas has 4.6 billion barrels of proven crude
oil reserves.
[42] There are currently 33 billionaires residing in Texas today. Dallas has 11 billionaires, the most of any city in Texas.
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In 2006, Texas had a
gross state product of $1.0856 trillion
[40], the
second highest in the U.S. after
California, after recently surpassing New York state.
[41] Gross state product per capita as of 2005 was $42,975. Texas leads the nation in number of beef, which usually exceed 16 million head. Cotton is the leading crop and the state's second-most-valuable farm product. Texas also leads in national production of grain sorghum, watermelons, cabbages, and spinach. Wheat, corn, and other grains are also important.
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Texas is second only to California, with almost 11 million civilian workers giving it the second largest workforce of any state in the
United States. The lack of personal
income tax as well as the largely undervalued real estate throughout Texas has led to large growth in population. Since the 2003 legislature the Governor's office has made economic development a top priority. The state has two major economic centers:
Dallas and
Houston. Houston stands at the center of the petrochemical and
biomedical research trades while Dallas functions as the center of the aerospace/defense manufacturing and
information technology labor market in Texas. Other major cities include
San Antonio,
Austin,
Corpus Christi,
Lubbock,
Amarillo,
Abilene,
College Station,
Beaumont,
Tyler,
Odessa and
Midland. Other important cities include
Killeen (home to
Fort Hood, the largest military post in the U.S.) and the cities of
Brownsville,
El Paso,
Del Rio,
Eagle Pass,
Laredo, and
McAllen (these have particular significance due to their location on the border with Mexico, making them important trade points).
We win
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Re: In Vermont, nascent secession movement gains traction
I said we can leave also. But just because your bigger dont make you better:laugh4: New Yorkers are a lot more savy.
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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
I said we can leave also. But just because your bigger dont make you better:laugh4: New Yorkers are a lot more savy.
Do NOT let the accent and the "ya'lls" fool you.
Personally, I've never encountered a state with a more independent identity and culture than Texas. Heck, the place even has 5 different climate zones and college dorms with their own zip codes.
Enjoyed the laser show on the cliff at Fiesta Texas too -- fun stuff.
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I don't know if I'd want to live in a 'country' that arrests and charges people for looking at police dogs:
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Animal cruelty case yields 'doggone' dismissal
June 6, 2007
By Peter Hirschfeld Times Argus Staff
CHELSEA – A woman facing jail time for "staring" at a police dog had charges against her dropped Monday after an Orange County prosecutor viewed videotape of the alleged crime.
Jayna Hutchinson, now of Lebanon, N.H., was scheduled for a jury trial this week on a misdemeanor charge of cruelty to animals.
A Vermont State Police sergeant said Hutchinson was intoxicated and stared at his police dog in a "taunting/harassing manner" last July while officers were in the process of investigating a reported melee outside a West Fairlee establishment.
http://www.timesargus.com/apps/pbcs....62/1002/NEWS01
Or maybe that's just me.
CR
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Do NOT let the accent and the "ya'lls" fool you.
No way. But come on. Were talking New York here. I dont care where in the world you are from you better make sure you still have your shorts after doing bussiness with one of us. We can rip you off and have you smiling at the same time thinking you just got the greatest deal in the world. :help: New Yorkers run at a faster pace than the rest of the nation. Im shocked every time I go to Calif and see how laid back they are there. We are the economic capital of the world. And I might add have the best pizza in the world :laugh4:
Ive lived and been all around the US and no state has people like New Yorkers. Especially those in the city.
But whos better isnt the point. New York could do fine on its own as could most states.
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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
And I might add have the best pizza in the world :laugh4:
You must not be referring to Brooklyn pizza, 'cause that stuff is nasty. Limp, greasy, pillsbury dough-boy crust ... ugh. I had to swear off pizza for the eight years I lived there.
You want good pizza, try Chicago.
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You want good pizza, try Chicago.
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You have to be kidding thats not pizza. But Im not going too insult it . Its good in its own way. Sort of a mix between neopolatain and sicilian . New York in reality invented pizza and made it popular in the US.
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Originally Posted by Don Corleone
I disagree completely. Utterly. No basis in truth, whatsoever. If anything, maple trees here in New Hampshire are the product of wholesome, traditional forestry services. Many foresters even carry a bible on them. As a result, the maple trees grow up more well adjusted and more prepared to perform the duties society requires of them, namely producing sap.
In Vermont, you go back and forth between ignoring your trees, what with your high-times parties with your buddies to trying to soothe your own guilt by spoiling them rotten, giving them the latest new fangled fertilizer. Your trees have no sense of responsibility and grow up to be rotten producers, if they ever produce at all. You have no work ethic and therefore you have no work ethic to pass on to your trees.
We in New Hampshire believe in doing things the way they've always been done. The time honored tradition of the nuclear forestry program, dating back to the golden age of the 1950s. Our trees know what's expected of them from an early age, and they are brought up knowing if they don't do it, there's no safety net. We give them wholesome environments and we even make certain that James Dobson comes out to read to them at least twice a year.
Don't you see Don that's the whole problem! You people are too caught up in societal norms to realize that wackiness leads to inspiration, and inspiration leads to better maple syrup, and ice cream flavors. Where would the world be today without Ben and Jerries having an ice cream flavor suitable for everyone outside of vegans? How can you argue with the taste explosion offered by such combinations as Coffee Heath Bar Crunch, Half Baked, or Caramel Sutra???
Anyway we respect your differences and are completely unbothered by your insistence as citizens of New Hampshire to remain a square state that allows us to buy fireworks and smuggle them back into our own state for illegal pleasures. Maybe someday New Hampshire will stop trying to fit in and just go it's own way like Vermont has chosen to do, until then we'll keep pondering independence in between bong hits (for the half of Vermont that are hippies) and look to the stars in search of new ideas.
Oh yeah and my serious opinion about Vermont seeking independence, at this point only a fringe group is considering independence and like the town that attempted to secede to New Hampshire last year (or the year before? Or sometime this decade??) there's almost no chance that anything serious will come of it unless the US as a whole continues to move away from Vermont's core values of peace and equality. Which even our republicans generally support. I suggest nobody from out of state tries to understand Vermont, it's like the twilight zone there, but in a good way.
Oh yeah and in my year away I've finally learned to really enjoy and respect the show put on by our trees every fall, there's nothing like a year in a land with much less impressive foliage to make you respect your own. But I still hate leaf-peepers. (leaf-peepers are tourists that clog up our roads every fall because they want to view our leaves)
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Re: In Vermont, nascent secession movement gains traction
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Originally Posted by Lemur
You must not be referring to Brooklyn pizza, 'cause that stuff is nasty. Limp, greasy, pillsbury dough-boy crust ... ugh. I had to swear off pizza for the eight years I lived there.
You want good pizza, try Chicago.
Ok, first the slight to one of our two great syrup producing states and now this... Such blatant disrespect cannot go unpunished. I might have to contact some relatives of the silk suit persuasion to set you straight.
I don't know where you were in Brooklyn (I'm guessing Williamsburg or the Heights?) but the best NY pizza is typically found in Bensonhurst, Dyker Heights and Bay Ridge. Staten Island might be a good bet now that the place is polluted with Italians. The best pizza I ever had was made just around the corner from where I live, it was run by an Italian couple that made their own sauce which tasted like tomato flavored heaven. Tragically they sold the business and retired decades ago... :sad:
The key is to stick to the places run by real Italians who either make their own sauce or their own dough. Another key is to sample all the local pizzerias to get an idea which ones make the best regular slices, sicilian slices, calzones, rolls, etc. Unfortunately too many places, Italian run or otherwise, buy ALL their ingredients from vendors, this includes pre-made sauce and dough... blech.
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Wow I cant believe it. I was looking for my favorite Pizza place on the net and found this
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Chicago vs. New York Pizza Throwdown
pizza85 The competition is hotter than a brick oven when pizzerias from the Windy City and the Big Apple battle each other to see who makes the best pizza, with three celebrity judges picking the winner!
And the winner was my favorite pizza place
LINK
Thats just the promo for the show . Hers the winner and the best pizza in the world. I cant go to Queens without stopping there.
http://www.gabyspizza.com/BISA-GABYSfinal.jpg
You want pizza to die for this is it. This place has been here fo rover 40 years and they still hardly speak english.
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The key is to stick to the places run by real Italians who either make their own sauce or their own dough.
You mean and their own dough. And people the secret of NYC pizza is in the water.
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Everybody knows that Rachel Ray is guilty of NYC bias. Bias, I say! Bias!
My true feelings about Chicago vs. NYC pizza are complicated, but I wasn't ready to go into them in-depth in a thread derail. I'll boil it down to this: In Chi-town, getting a good pizza is easy. In NYC, it's too damn complicated. The corner stores bake absolute junk, and the good places generally don't deliver.
Frankly, I love Brooklyn and I love Chicago. So viva Brooklyn! Viva Chicago!
If you've never had Carmen's stuffed spinach pizza, though, you haven't lived.
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The corner stores bake absolute junk,
No they make the best. Gabbys is a plain old pizza place. Nothing fancy not even a dinning room.
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If you've never had Carmen's stuffed spinach pizza, though, you haven't lived.
Today 17:34
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...B_enUS222US222
You call that pizza? Oh my.
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Ah, Pizza war, now that's the stuff the Backroom is for. :2thumbsup:
I hate goddam Nevada. Not a single good food to boast about. :shame:
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I hate goddam Nevada. Not a single good food to boast about. :shame:
You've got strip clubs and gambling though.
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You've got strip clubs and gambling though.
You can't eat that!!!
Well, technically...
Ahem.