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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
This game isn't moving. Gah!
Andres: you've been suspiciously silent after I exposed your pro-activeness as assasinish behaviour. No more snooping about? What, you've decided to lay low for a while? Got anything to hide?
Well, you "exposed" me at 5 pm. I work until 6 pm. After work, me and my wife did our two weekly groceries in the Carrefour. After that we ate pizza (I had a quatro fromaggi, she took one with spinache), with two glasses of wine (white wine, it was a bordeaux IIRC) each. Then we had dessert. Ice Cream. Speculoos ice cream from Ijsboerke (we just bought a 2,5 liter box at the Carrefour). We talked a bit after dinner. No cognac after dinner this time ~;) . Afterwards, my wifed needed the PC for more important matters than mafia games (yeah yeah, I know, there are no such things as "more important than mafia games", but you know women...), so I had to wait. After that, I had to read what has been posted. And then, I posted.
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Originally Posted by Louis, the frustrated assassin?
Gah! I say we just lynch somebody and get this game moving.
So that's why they call you "an Honorary Texan" in the "Who the hell are you anyway thread"... :inquisitive:
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So that's why they call you "an Honorary Texan" in the "Who the hell are you anyway thread"... :inquisitive:
Texas has a refreshingly straight-to-the-point way of doing things, yes. :cowboy:
I don't want to edit my previous post, but to be clear, it was written when this thread seemed death, before there were four new replies all of a sudden. I'm a slow typer...
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D'accord mes amis, I am going offline now. Please do not lynch me post-haste. I shall be back most likely long after you have gone to bed.
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Louis, not enough material to vote. If the discussion has been restricted to discussion, and if we are to be suspicious of people because of wanting it or not, then we're not going very far.
The Assassin:
-promotes discussion: to learn the King's identity
-minimises discussion: no to reveal himself
The guards+King
-promote discussion: to learn who is the assassin
-reduce discussion: to avoid a slip-up
Is that about right?
Désolé, mon ami. Et maintenant, bonne nuit! (And now, good night.)
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Okay, time to offer somewhat of an elaborate view on the players.
Andres.
Has been posting a lot, as others such as Louis have stated. When he was a mafioso he'd overview posts as neutral sounding as he could be, often asking instead of answering, and letting go of a potential target once his posts seemed too forced. He's a fairly aggressive player, if you will, and likes to be in the middle of the discussion.
Louis
Haven't played with him a lot, as a matter of fact only in Capo ?. Don't know what to think of him really, as he's basically only pointed out the obvious so far. But I'd be a hypocrite were I to berate that, as I was one of the people who asked for more discussion :wink:
GeneralH
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Louis is coming after you (Andres). I think you're innocent, and I have my reasons as to why. They might be revised later on. That said, he accurately describes the unique problem arising from this game, something which I do not believe the assassin would do.
Well by all means, why don't you share them ? The town (yeah, not the correct word in this game, but who cares ;) ) has time, of course, but quite frankly we need to end this as soon as possible. The longer this takes, the more chance our assassin has of blending in perfectly with the crowd. Oh, and in which post did Louis do so ? Or were you talking of Andres when you stated 'he accurately describes the unique problem arising from this game, something which I do not believe the assassin would do''
Omanes
Has been a bit too silent for his doing, which is Ironic since that's exactly what he accused me of being. And the things which you have said, for example:
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I do not believe so in this game. The assassin is looking for the King and is preparing to kill him. He will only find the king through hunting for him, mostly through searching over discussion. Of course this can work both ways, so really it does balance itself out in neither side's favor.
...is all great, and true, but is so inconclusive Warmaster probably knew it already.
Warmaster Horus
while there may not be enough material to vote, we'll have to do so eventually. It's our only chance of flushing out our rat, and how do you expect to find conclusive evidence at such an early stage of the game ? It isn't there, it never is, and god knows how many games I've looked for it.
And the following:
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The Assassin:
-promotes discussion: to learn the King's identity
-minimises discussion: no to reveal himself
The guards+King
-promote discussion: to learn who is the assassin
-reduce discussion: to avoid a slip-up
Is how I imagine an assassin would adhere to the probes of his investigators. It's a neutral and obvious message, it's as if you're trying not to give anything away - and that worries me. It's the same with Omanes really.
As it is, my vote stands.
Oh, and don't worry GeneralH, I'm going to bed - and all other euro's are probably in theirs already, so I imagine you won't be lynched in your sleep :wink:
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I wish I had participated in this game...
There have been votes placed on 5 players.
Was any of them on the King?
- If not, you have revealed the King.
- If so, you have discovered the Assasin.
Two players have not voted.. the King and the Assasin?
The Assasin would be wary of placing a wrong vote, so players shifting votes should be guards or King.
Please continue...
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the current tally?
Omanes - 0
GH - 1
WH - 0
Andres - 2
Dutch Guy - 2
Louis - 0
BTW, only the King should be wary of changing votes, he's the least informed individual, followed closely by the guards. The assassin can just random kill - to him it doesn't matter who dies as long as its not himself, although the death of the king would be nice for him.
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Well by all means, why don't you share them ? The town (yeah, not the correct word in this game, but who cares ;) ) has time, of course, but quite frankly we need to end this as soon as possible.
Just his initial posting style. It didn't give off any bad waves. His later posting style is a bit more suspicious, but I haven't really been paying much attention in recent games to compare.
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Oh, and in which post did Louis do so ? Or were you talking of Andres when you stated 'he accurately describes the unique problem arising from this game, something which I do not believe the assassin would do''
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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
Hm, five know who the king is, one doesn't. The king doesn't want to reveal himself, neither does the assassin. Would it be wise for guards to pretend to be king, to put the assassin on the wrong foot?
Now if I were the assassin, what would be my strategy? I'd pretend to be a guard wanting to find out who the assassin is. This is easily overdone, a too pro-active guard might just be our assassin.
He'll be keeping my eye open for any kingly behaviour as well. This means he wants people to talk, demanding they partake in the discussion.
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Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites
BTW, only the King should be wary of changing votes, he's the least informed individual, followed closely by the guards. The assassin can just random kill - to him it doesn't matter who dies as long as its not himself, although the death of the king would be nice for him.
I am saying that all though the chance is great of not voting the king should you just throw out a random vote, the chance for the assassin to vote for the king is there. If the assassin votes the King, the rest of the guardsmen would be over him like hungry wolves.
A lot of vote-shifting is a good strategy and even though only a few players actually have a vote on them now, the voteshifting have covered 5 players already.
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If the assassin votes the King, the rest of the guardsmen would be over him like hungry wolves.
I disagree. You forget that at any time the assassin can just kill the King and the game will be over. More discreet methods are required.
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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
I disagree. You forget that at any time the assassin can just kill the King and the game will be over. More discreet methods are required.
:yes:
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Originally Posted by Dutch_guy
Is how I imagine an assassin would adhere to the probes of his investigators. It's a neutral and obvious message, it's as if you're trying not to give anything away - and that worries me.
I agree, Warmaster Horus is too much going with the flow. It seems like he is trying to avoid getting attention. Add to that the fact that he didn't vote yet.
Unvote ; Vote : Warmaster Horus
Good night all.
Vote tally:
Andres : 1 (Omanes)
Dutch_Guy : 2 (GH, Louis)
Warmaster Horus : 2 (Andres, Dutch_guy)
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It's true. I don't like attention. In real life, or in mafia games. I say "games" because you'll have noticed my behaviour in other games. Which, I believe, is the same as here. As Omanes said: "He's played like that in other games, trying to avoid attention. In those games, he was innocent." It's the same here.
As for voting, well, now I must vote, right? For who?
Well, as I said when asked who I'd vote for, I'll Vote:Andres. Now, a three way tie. Let's see who breaks first.
Edit: Few, I'm tired tonight. That post took me about 15 minutes.
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Originally Posted by Sigurd
If the assassin votes the King, the rest of the guardsmen would be over him like hungry wolves.
That's impossible. The guards vote for the King to to avoid drawing suspicion to him.
Anyhow, since we need four to lynch, we really need to decide who out of the targets is most dangerous. I'm not changing my vote. I'll leave that to you.
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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
I disagree. You forget that at any time the assassin can just kill the King and the game will be over. More discreet methods are required.
I missed that feature... So there are no night phase?
nvm me... play along. I shall return to my seat. :beam:
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Tally
Andres : 2 (Omanes, Warmaster)
Dutch_Guy : 2 (GH, Louis)
Warmaster Horus : 2 (Andres, Dutch_guy)
We'll have to make a decision guys...
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Unvote: Andres
I just decided to take the time to create a full overview over the thread and, now thinking it over, I do sense that you may be innocent. Although I do have a small feeling somewhere that you may not be, so don't consider yourself safe from my vote yet.
As said, we need a trap for the assassin, something to slip him up. The problem is that without external activity we cannot do this without the assassin knowing about it and being ready!
Andres : 1 (Warmaster)
Dutch_Guy : 2 (GH, Louis)
Warmaster Horus : 2 (Andres, Dutch_guy)
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So, Omanes, you have the possibility of voting for somebody. Who? We need to get this moving.
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I need more evidence and time to think. My instincts send me towards Louis, he's a little quiet for my liking, but I'm not sure enough to want to have him lynched.
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This isn't going anywhere. :wall:
Okay, here's my deal:
I have voted, to the best of my instinct and analysis, and I haven't made a secret of my thoughts in general either. I'll leave my vote as is, but to get this game moving, I will join any bandwagon. I'll keep or join the vote for the very first person who reaches three votes.
Andres : 1 (Warmaster)
Dutch_Guy : 2 (GH, Louis)
Warmaster Horus : 2 (Andres, Dutch_guy)
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Omanes, two hours enough?
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Unvote: Dutch_guy
Vote: Warmaster Horus
Andres : 1 (Warmaster)
Dutch_Guy : 1 (Louis)
Warmaster Horus : 3 (Andres, Dutch_guy, GH)
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To keep things moving, and the fact that there's a good chance that you're the assassin.
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Fine by me...
Can I vote for myself?
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You may vote for yourself.
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Thanks!
Vote:Me
Since Louis had said he'd vote whoever had three votes...
I'm lynched.
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Warmaster Horus has been lynched. He was a Guard.
It is now day 2. With 5 alive it's 3 to lynch.
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Omanes, I think it's time to speak. What are your thoughts on the game thus far, with one guard down? It strikes me you that haven't voted for anyone yet, surely that's not the way to go about this game ?
Or is your reluctance to speak caused by your role ?
:balloon2:
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Bah, so far for my analysing skills.
Got some rereading to do.
Meanwhile:
Vote : Omanes
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On second thoughts:
Unvote : Omanes
Vote : Louis
Omanes is just being who he is.
Louis has limited himself to stating the obvious followed by a wee bit too exaggerated attitude of "Hey, I don't really care, oh, I'm soooo not-mafia, look at me, I'm soooo innocent...".
I'll stick to this vote, Louis, unless something really, really obvious points in the direction of another player.
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Omanes, soon as you can, please tell us your thoughts.
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Oi, I'm away for a little while and all hell breaks loose....
I need some time to think it all over.
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Okay, I'm back. Well that round sucked. Sorry to have lost you, Warmaster. :embarassed:
This is a much more difficult game then I expected it to be when I read the rules.
I've read the thread over again, but I can't figure it out. For each of the players, there is both a good reason to assume they are innocent and a good reason to think they are not. I'm not going to make a prodding vote.
We now know for sure you are innocent, Warmaster Horus. Are you allowed, and willing, to keep sharing your thoughts with us? Why did you vote Andres?
Andres, Dutch_guy, GH, why did you vote Warmaster? And Omanes, where havre you been? Why didn't you cast a vote at the moment supreme?
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Louis has limited himself to stating the obvious followed by a wee bit too exaggerated attitude of "Hey, I don't really care, oh, I'm soooo not-mafia, look at me, I'm soooo innocent...".
Hey, I do care. I was right there, eh? I casted my vote and stated my reasons. I just can't help being impatient.
But we had to decide on a vote at some point, didn't we? People were not going to reveal anything decisive anyway, it was always going to be a lucky shot. At least my instincts were correct that Warmaster wasn't the killer. ~;)
And neither did I abstain, like Omanes. :whip:
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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
I've read the thread over again...
You did? :inquisitive:
Because the answer to...
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Originally Posted by Louis
Andres, (...) why did you vote Warmaster?
Is right here...
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Originally Posted by Louis
And Omanes, where havre you been? Why didn't you cast a vote at the moment supreme?
Allthough you stay number 1 on my list, this is a very good point. But, a simple click on his username and choosing the option "find more posts by Omanes Alexandrapolites" would have revealed this: the post he made at 4.49 pm was his last one until now, so he probably hasn't been online since than...
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Originally Posted by Louis
At least my instincts were correct that Warmaster wasn't the killer. ~;)
Touché. But maybe it weren't your instincts because you simply knew for sure that Warmaster wasn't the killer...
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Andres, Omanes said he'd read the thread again, and think things through. It takes time for that, and well, there's real life to consider too. He's probably eaten, socialized, and did usual things for him in the evening. So, he may have searched through the thread, jotted whatever thoughts came to him on paper, and decided to act later.
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Originally Posted by Warmaster Horus
So, he may have searched through the thread, jotted whatever thoughts came to him on paper, and decided to act later.
That was what I meant. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough :bow:
Omanes didn't react yet because he indeed probably had real life interfering.
Louis could have figured that out for himself by simply looking at Omanes' public profile (he took more than enough time to make his latest post).
That's why this particular remark:
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Originally Posted by Louis
And Omanes, where havre you been? Why didn't you cast a vote at the moment supreme?
smells like a cheap accusation.
With this remark, Louis is actually saying that Omanes is suspicious because he didn't dare to cast a decisive vote, and only somebody who doesn't know the king would not cast the decisive vote, wouldn't he. So basically, he accuses Omanes and at first sight, it looks like a justly accusation, but the basis for that accusation doesn't make any sense at all.
So I stick to my vote.
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Originally Posted by Andres
Yes it is. Everybody posted some reason in the thread. I know. But I now need the find the answer why people voted for a guard. Chances are, it was mere bad luck and intuition. But I will prod for ulterior motives. :yes:
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a simple click on his username and choosing the option "find more posts by Omanes Alexandrapolites" would have revealed
this: the post he made at 4.49 pm was his last one until now, so he probably hasn't been online since than...
I know Omanes, he's online all the time. A simple click on his username doesn't suffice though. You need to check here. His profile shows he has his visibility turned off, he hasn't been online since 12-1-07. So for all we know, he's right here staring at us now.
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But maybe it weren't your instincts because you simply knew for sure that Warmaster wasn't the killer...
That is not as clever as you think it is. There are only two ways of knowing for sure Warmaster wasn't the killer: knowing he is the king, which he wasn't. Or being the killer yourself.
Now, I'm afraid the reverse of what you insinuate is true: those who did vote for Warmaster, not those who didn't, are thus more likely to be the killer themselves.
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Originally Posted by Andres
That's why this particular remark:
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Originally Posted by Louis
And Omanes, where havre you been? Why didn't you cast a vote at the moment supreme?
smells like a cheap accusation.
Excuse me? A cheap accussation? Well it sure beats a cheap lynch, hey? Are you being a hypocrite or are you lusting for more guardian blood? :
Post 111, directly after the lynching.
QUOTE=Andres:
Bah, so far for my analysing skills.
Got some rereading to do.
Meanwhile:
Vote : Omanes
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More in general, you seem awfully aggressive. You've cast two votes in this second round already. You are throwing mindless accussations around. Has Warmaster's death wet your appetite, while the guards and king are all quietly licking their wounds from the last round and wondering where to take it from here? :inquisitive:
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Guys, I've figured something out.
I've been going through ideas in my head for days trying to figure out how we, the guards, can press an advantage we have over the assassin. I think I've finally come up with something.
We will always have a numerical advantage over the assassin, even when it's 2-1. Considering this in mind, adding the fact that Sasaki reveals roles upon death, and assuming that person is allowed to contribute after they die and we know them to be innocent, we should just lynch as much as we can.
Someone suspicious? Lynch 'em, and lynch 'em quick. If they're the assassin, then we win, and if they're not, we have another confirmed innocent.
Let me know what you guys think. I volunteer to be the first victim to prove my trustworthiness.
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That is interesting, GH. If this game is decided by lynching, the assassin can never win indeed. The guards and king will always outnumber the single assassin.
However, the assassin can win by killing, by guessing the king. He might even take a lucky shot, based on an educated guess, when pushed. At 2:1, the king and last guard are certain they will lynch the assassin. But the assassin now has a 50% chance.* This is the risk with the plan. The fewer we are, the better the chance for the assassin, and the more he can relate known roles with voting patterns.
If we are going to do your plan, then I think it should be on a voluntary basis. A kind of reverse 'I am Spartacus, no I am'. People now step to the fore proclaiming they aren't the king. If somebody steps to the fore, proclaiming he is a guard, then the others should accept the offer so as not to confuse matters or give the assassin any leads. As for your current offer, you're either a supreme bluffer or of very noble character.
But, I think we should wait with this a bit. Not necessarily until next round, but we could try to reach a majority on a suspect. If we are going to lynch someone, we might as well take an educated guess at the assassin. If we get it right, we've won. If we don't, we've achieved our goal of limiting our numbers anyway. The risk is, that our behaviour could give clues about the identity of the king.
Am I correct, am I overlooking something? What do the others think?
*Sasaki: imagine that the last guard and king lynch the assassin, and the assassin kills the right person, the king. will the winner be decided by whomever posts fastest?
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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
I volunteer to be the first victim to prove my trustworthiness.
That's scummy.
I think it's Louis or GH.
But for now, I stick to my vote.
Where are Omanes and Dutch_guy?
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I'm here, I was going to post an analysis, but I lost it all when my PC refused to un-hibernate correctly. I'll do it at another time.
BTW, I'll be busy today, so I may not be able to get on-line too frequently. Sorry.
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Perhaps, instead of posting a long list of scummy activities, you can just give us the name(s) of the person(s) who appear the most likely to be the assassin.
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I think it's one of Louis, Andres or GH
Louis is acting innocently, too innocently. I see no dangerous actions or anything similar from him. This demonstrates that he is hiding something very well. Townies are often much more careless. As a final note on this character, I must say that his accusation regarding the deciding vote wasn't very well founded. I was away, inactive, watching a theatre production, not sitting at my PC deciding.
Andres is active, a little too active for my liking. Is he trying to find the assasin or the king through his discussion creating? It concerns me which way he is trying to turn this game, but, he at least seems to have some resemblance of his normal playing style. Definitely the least suspitious of the above suspects.
GH is obsessed with reading through and checking every post at the moment. This doesn't seem normal, but, then again, I haven't played with him recently, so perhaps his style has changed? Also there was his offer of sacrifice - isn't that scummy?
Since Louis' suspicion has slightly more clarity with less of an excuse for it's existence:
Vote: Louis IV the Fat
If we don't get the assasin through him, I suggest we target GH next round.
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Well, guys, if you think his offer of sacrifice is scummy, then take him up on it.
Lynch GH if he wants to be.
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Originally Posted by Warmaster Horus
Well, guys, if you think his offer of sacrifice is scummy, then take him up on it.
Lynch GH if he wants to be.
GH's offer is scummy, but Louis' overall behaviour seems scummier to me.
I wonder what the General himself has to say. And where's Dutch_guy? :inquisitive:
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I don't know guys, I don't like Andres' posts one bit.
This round he voted Omanes, and didn't give a reason for doing so. He merely went with what I said earlier, only re enforcing it with a vote.
Then he immediately switched to Louis:
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Louis has limited himself to stating the obvious followed by a wee bit too exaggerated attitude of "Hey, I don't really care, oh, I'm soooo not-mafia, look at me, I'm soooo innocent...".
I'll stick to this vote, Louis, unless something really, really obvious points in the direction of another player.
Which was the main reason GeneralH actually stated he trusted Louis. Now, obviously both of them aren't conspiring together so it's just a matter of whom you trust. For now, I'm leaning to GenH's opinion of Louis.
Also,
I'll stick to this vote, Louis, unless something really, really obvious points in the direction of another player
I don't like that line at all. What do you want, a confession ? Which really obvious points do you need ?
Vote:Andres.
:balloon2:
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I don't like that line at all. What do you want, a confession ? Which really obvious points do you need ?
A second vote on the King?
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Don't you think that at least a couple of guards are going to vote the King to obscure him from the assasin.
BTW, I've turned invisibility off.
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Originally Posted by rules
When the assassin is lynched he gets to make one kill, if successful he wins the game even though he will be killed...it's a suicide mission.
Also, please keep the vote counts up to date, remember it's 3 to lynch.
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Ooohh, this game is driving me mad. Every time I think I've figured someone out, I find a reason to assume they're innocent.
I'm still trying to figure out a trap. Alas, last night in bed I saw were I screwed up in the previous round. If I had been a bit more clever, we could've used last round's voting system to find out the assassin. But we needed six votes for that, not five. :embarassed:
Thinking about a new trap, we are with five left alive:
Warmaster is dead, a guard. Alive: Andres, Dutch_Guy, General, Louis, Omanes.
All know their own roles. The king and assassin only know their own role.
Three guards know who the king is also.
The three guards could prove their innocence by naming one, two or three non-kings. But I can't figure out a way of doing that without revealing the king to the assassin. Is there a way to put the information advantage of the guards to use?
Tally so far, just to be clear:
Louis - 2 (Andres, Omanes)
Andres - 1 (Dutch-Guy)
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Hmmm...
Talk by voting.
How about putting one vote on every player and see what happens?
The King knows he is King. The guards know who is King. Only the assassin doesn't know who is King. He'll put the wrong vote eventually.
Unvote; Vote : Dutch_guy
Louis - 1 (Omanes)
Andres - 1 (Dutch_guy)
Dutch_guy - 1 (Andres)
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There are other ways of trickery, but they cannot be operated without the knowledge of some. This will result in the assasin knowing too creating an absolute failure.
BTW, Andres, so will the guards to hide the King from view, if they don't vote for the king then we will see who the assasin is aright, but not after he's taken the King out - bear that in mind, you can't just base it upon "wrong" votes.
Also, although you are generally normal, why are you practically telling the assasin where to look. The mafia will know that, if you vote for somebody after they make a vote on a player already with a vote, that the original target is the King based upon your previous notes. Unless you are going to be more subtle in your methods.
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Twisted my ankle today so I won't be able to get on that much.
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How about putting one vote on every player and see what happens?
Sounds good.
Vote: Omanes
Louis - 1 (Omanes)
Andres - 1 (Dutch_guy)
Dutch_guy - 1 (Andres)
Omanes - 1 (GH)
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Re: Assassin mafia (ultra mini game)
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Originally Posted by Ichigo
-not playing-
wth?
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Re: Assassin mafia (ultra mini game)
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Originally Posted by Andres
How about putting one vote on every player and see what happens?
So is that what they call retaliation voting these days ? :wink:
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Re: Assassin mafia (ultra mini game)
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Hmmm...
Talk by voting.
How about putting one vote on every player and see what happens?
Then what though? Kill the guy who puts a second vote on the king? That sounds good in theory, but might lead to the three guards pressuring each other to vote a non-king to prove their innocence, while the assassin with each correct vote can do away with one less candidate for the identity of the king.
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Re: Assassin mafia (ultra mini game)
I wil be gone till monday. Take your time.
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Re: Assassin mafia (ultra mini game)
Andres, if your tactic are honest, I doubt that they will work the way you want them to - they may even work in an intelligent assassin's favour. The guards will have to place a vote on the king to obscure him. If somebody casts a second vote, then the assasin will know its not upon the King. This will enable him to work out that the player who has two votes is most likely not a member of Royalty. This will slowly allow the assasin to tactically build up a picture of who they think is the king and combine with that evidence. The combination will not be very positive for the town. Unless your intentions are something more sly and tactical than they seem, I don't think that they will work.
On the other hand, which is the bias which I am beginning to believe, you are doing exactly the same as above, but for your own personal gain - to flush out the king using the same method as previously mentioned. Louis' is now a target to be left for the future should Andres be innocent. Andres is showing terrifying mafia/pro-mafia activities.
Unvote: Louis IV the Fat; Vote: Andres
Andres - 2 (Dutch_guy, Omanes)
Dutch_guy - 1 (Andres)
Omanes - 1 (GH)
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Re: Assassin mafia (ultra mini game)
We'll need to take some sort of risk if we want to end this game one way or another...
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Re: Assassin mafia (ultra mini game)
I agree that risks must be taken, but the size of these risks has to be as small as possible.
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Re: Assassin mafia (ultra mini game)
Hmmm...
I agree we can keep the King alive by ignoring this game, but aren't we supposed to find the assassin? Don't see how we will reach that goal by, eh, no longer posting in the thread...
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Re: Assassin mafia (ultra mini game)
Pity Crazed Rabbit isn't here... That would give us a certainty.
I say lynch GH. He wants it.
I say it, so this game can move. It needs to.
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Re: Assassin mafia (ultra mini game)
We'll have to move this game forward at some point. It is just that, I really don't know who the assassin is. I simply don't have a clue. ~:confused:
I'll follow WH's advice, and place a vote on GH.
Vote GeneralHandkerchief.
Andres - 2 (Dutch_guy, Omanes)
Dutch_guy - 1 (Andres)
Omanes - 1 (GH)
GeneralH - 1 (Louis)
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Re: Assassin mafia (ultra mini game)
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We'll have to move this game forward at some point. It is just that, I really don't know who the assassin is. I simply don't have a clue.
I'm sorry, that just sounds really scummy to me.
Unvote: Omanes
Vote: Louis VI
Andres - 2 (Dutch_guy, Omanes)
Dutch_guy - 1 (Andres)
Louis - 1 (GH)
GeneralH - 1 (Louis)
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Re: Assassin mafia (ultra mini game)
This round has to end at some point guys. I strongly reccomend you get Andres. His previous narrowing down tactic was engineered to work for his own benefit rather than the town's. If it was honest, which I deeply doubt, that it really was a bad move.
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Re: Assassin mafia (ultra mini game)
Unvote ; Vote : Louis
Andres - 2 (Dutch_guy, Omanes)
Louis - 2 (GH, Andres)
GeneralH - 1 (Louis)
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Re: Assassin mafia (ultra mini game)
Lynch Louis.
The fact that GH had been willing to put himself on the firing lines points more to being a guard or the king than being an assassin.
Désolé, mon ami.
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Re: Assassin mafia (ultra mini game)
We're only going to be able to lynch Louis if Omanes (not likely) or Dutch_guy (a bit more likely) changes his vote.
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Re: Assassin mafia (ultra mini game)
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Originally Posted by Warmaster Horus
The fact that GH had been willing to put himself on the firing lines points more to being a guard or the king than being an assassin.
Désolé, mon ami.
Rubbish. You're not paying attention.
I could and still can save my arse by voting Andres right now. I didn't and I don't.
Désolé, mon cher ami. ~;)
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Re: Assassin mafia (ultra mini game)
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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
We're only going to be able to lynch Louis if Omanes (not likely) or Dutch_guy (a bit more likely) changes his vote.
I'm not planning on changing my vote, and why are you all suddenly voting for Louis ? The vote Andres put on Louis didn't exactly do him any good in my eyes, suspicion wise.
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Re: Assassin mafia (ultra mini game)
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Originally Posted by Dutch_guy
The vote Andres put on Louis didn't exactly do him any good in my eyes, suspicion wise.
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It didn't?
Unvote ; Vote : GeneralHankerchief
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Neither did that. Guys, I strongly recommend you get Andres, his dodgyness is terrible, unless he has a reason, other than it's another target that he can equalise with, behind his vote of GeneralH.
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Re: Assassin mafia (ultra mini game)
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Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites
Niether did that. Guys, I strongly reccomend you get Andres, his dodgyness is terrible, unless he has a reason behind his vote of GeneralH.
Oh come on, I gave my reasons why I think it is GH or Louis.
I'm just continuously switching my vote to keep pressure on the both of them.
Why are you pressing to see me lynched?
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Re: Assassin mafia (ultra mini game)
I dislike the way you are acting, your earlier behaviour was a sort of "find the king" tactic covered up by a more honest "find the assasin" storyline. Your flitting between player also seems scummy to me, but, for now, I'm willing to disregard that, since I suspect both of those players. However, whatever these players may be like, does not excuse it. It seems more like a way of changing to a target which you think a more neutral voter will go for, henceforth saving you without you getting accused of bandwaggoning.
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Re: Assassin mafia (ultra mini game)
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Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites
I dislike the way you are acting, your earlier behaviour was a sort of "find the king" tactic covered up by a more honest "find the assasin" storyline. Your flitting between player also seems scummy to me, but, for now, I'm willing to disregard that, since I suspect both of those players. However, whatever these players may be like, does not excuse it. It seems more like a way of changing to a target which you think a more neutral voter will go for, henceforth saving you without you getting accused of bandwaggoning.
I didn't vote without reason ergo I am not bandwaggoning.
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Re: Assassin mafia (ultra mini game)
GH, you have two votes on you for a while now...
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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
I volunteer to be the first victim to prove my trustworthiness.
Why didn't you vote yourself yet?
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Re: Assassin mafia (ultra mini game)
Alrighty then.
Unvote: Louis
Vote: GH