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Hello, to all.
First of all, thank you to the creator of this mod. BI adds a whole new lvl of dimension to the already wonderful game (lets face it EB is just too good to be called a MOD compare to Vanilla RTW).
I have just installed 1.1 (vanilla > BI > 1.6 patch > all permanent fixes for 1.1 > BI of EB 1.0).
I believe as long as you DON'T opt to use shiltron/shield wall and night battles, this mod functions flawlessly. At least for me it runs with NO problems.
Roman.
I posted a similar message in another thread, but I thought it would be appropriate to add it to my own thread about the mod:
I would like to let you know that I'm finally back and currently working on updating my installer to version 1.1 of EB.
I am also going to remove schiltrom because it's horribly horribly broken after much testing. Two problems with it. The AI sometimes gets confused and puts a unit into schiltrom (in the middle of nowhere on a field sometimes) and just leaves it there to be slaughtered. Second, it seems while schiltrom is sometimes effective against a cavalry rush, I've noticed that some units will stand there and do nothing when engaging in hand-to-hand. It doesn't matter if it's a strong unit or weak unit, but many times the schiltrom will kill not a single enemy unit! Something is screwy and it will have to wait until EB2.0 to put schiltrom back into the game.
I feature I will be adding is for a troop to carry torches during night battles. If possible I will make it so it's an optional feature in the installer.
Currently I'm slogging through the EDU file, one unit at a time :)
Any idea what the MP EDU is all about? I assumed it's for multiplayer. If so, I'm not to going to add shieldwall or can-swim to it so that it's compatible with other mods if they also leave the multiplayer EDU alone.
told ya~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferromancer
MP EDU is as you guessed is for MP games.
im still using your old installer (for 1.0) and it works fine, just needed formations option dis activated when installing.
glad to see you back and looking forward to a new installer.:thumbsup:
Yes, you were right, I was wrong:embarassed:. I was hoping that the AI would undo the formation eventually, but... no dice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarkiss
does this work with EB 1.1?
Only if you leave all options unticked (no shield wall, night battles, etc) and it will set everything up so that EB of any version can run with BI. I'm currently updating it so that the installer is fully compatible with EB 1.1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Havok.
Any known killing bugs, bugs, bugs with the perm fixess, bugs with the temp fixes, bugs in custom battle, bugs in historical battle, bugs in X faction on Y year that can lead to ultimate frustration? :sweatdrop:
Okay. I've now updated everything to work with version 1.1 of EB! Please redownload it. REMEMBER TO UNINSTALL THE OLD EB FOR BI FIRST!
As far as the permanent fixes, I'll think about adding them at some point, maybe as a part of the main section or as a separate check box. I'll have to investigate.
I've updated the first post with all the new information regarding the installer.
Does this installer works with all the
1-AI unit formation mini mod
2-city mod restriction mini mod
3-Spoilers of battle mini mod
4-forced diplomacy
please tell me it can
If any of these mods change the EDU, then you won't have shield-wall. BUT. If you only install the "main section" of my installer (the first checkbox), you can have any of these mods installed over my installer, and then you'll be able to play these mods with BI instead of vanilla RTW.Quote:
Originally Posted by Havok.
i think the permanent fixes should definitely be included...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferromancer
Okay, I took a look at the permanent fixes and the optional fixes, and it *might* be possible to put them as a separate checkbox, but this will require a little bit of effort on my part. I can't include them in the main section, because that means that my installer would be completely useless whenever a new version of EB comes out (currently the main section works with *every* version of EB). I will not include the temporary fix (it's temporary and requires manipulation that's beyond the ability of the installer). I'll try to get this done within a week.
Ok, so IF, i install the mini mod EB/BI and then install the following mods
1-AI unit formation mini mod
2-city mod restriction mini mod
3-Spoilers of battle mini mod
4-forced diplomacy
5-Perm, Temp fixes
will it work? will i have all those mini mods, plus the EB/BI, with night battles/warcry, and the BI features?
if not, how do i put all these together?(considering those mine mods does not change the EDU i guess)
If you select ONLY THE FIRST CHECKBOX in my installer, you will be fine but you definitely won't get warcry/shieldwall/canswim or night battles. The other mods will run with BI just fine. You will also be able to run the uninstaller to go back to EB with regular RTW--while preserving the other mods you isntalled.Quote:
Originally Posted by Havok.
On the other hand, if you check all the boxes in my installer then install those mods, you will likely lose shieldwall, and night battles may not even work, and it's possible that lots of stuff will crash. Also the uninstaller for my mod will be hosed, so if you run it lots of weird things will happen.
As far as the permanent/optional fixes go, give me a few days to incorporate them into my installer.
The mods seem to be compatible with each other so that should not be the problem. However the Spoils of Victory micro-mod does use files (export_descr_character_traits.txt and EBBS.txt) that will be overwritten by the fixes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Havok.
To make it work I would recommend to do the steps as you have said, except for No.3.
Install Spoils of Victory as the last by copying manually relevant parts of the modded files to your fixed game files - see the bundled readme file for details on what my changes in those files are and where to find them.
Good luck!:2thumbsup:
Good news folks! I've been tweaking my installer for the past few days since I've released the version compatible with 1.1, and I'm very happy the results. It now groups the installer options in a tree so that you know which ones are required for what. It will also automatically detect the old installation and remove it for you in case you forget. But that's not all. Now the installer also includes:
- Permanent Fixes and Optional fixes to EB 1.1
- Optional removal of magic floating banners / selection triangles
I've also added more screenshots the end product at the download link for those skeptics out there.
And if you're too lazy to go back to the first page of the post, here's the download link again.
Playing KH my generals no longer have the ability to rally their troops since the shieldwall icon takes the place of it ... can this be changed so they can still rally their units!
Typically the rally symbol is only replaced if the general is a "helper general" as opposed to the main general of the army. Can you confirm this?Quote:
Originally Posted by dutch81
awesome! downloading now.
thanks:thumbsup:
No it was the only General in the stack ... it was my stack in Crete w/ my faction leader in fact during my first move. Now the shield wall seems very powerfull as I decimated the enemy who did not assume the shieldwall formation despite the fact they were on the defensive.
It's most likely that the decimation had more to do with the fact that the Greek general units have very high stats than the fact you were using a shieldwall.Quote:
Originally Posted by dutch81
Unfortunately, it's not possible to have rally and shieldwall appear at the same time.
I'm tempted to just leave the KH general with shieldwall than replace it with rally, since generals have a moral boosting radius around them already.
I could put it up as a poll in a new thread so that people can vote on it.
Dear Ferromancer,
I just installed your mod on top of a clean EB with RTW Gold-Edition. When trying to enter the single player section I then got the "please select an item from the list" message. Closing down the game I got the following error report:
Script error in eb/data/world/maps/campain/barbarian_invasion/descr_strat-txt at line 1, column2:
Expected campain or battle map type
I installed the mod into the main RTW folder, which in Gold Edition includes BI and RTW. Did I make a mistake?
I would be thankful for help and advice!
Dear Ferromancer,
I had a similar problem to Quirinus, so I uninstalled everything, I did a RTW install, BI install and then EB1.1, the only thing I've changed is the Activision folder is no longer in programme files.
I then installed your mod, I unchecked the banners box.
When I tried to run the game I got blank screen with " Generic Error unable to find skeleton "fs_fast_gladius" followed by CTD.
I unistalled Mod, re-downloaded it re-installed and same error message!
Any help, I loved playing 1.0 with your Mod, and had no problems.
After uninstalling the mod, I noticed another minor phenomenon, which is not disturbing in any way but still remarkable: My Generals still get the Night Fighter trait in vanilla EB. Of course they can't fight night battles, but the trait they have. Besides this, everything works fine so far, so I am far away from complaining about anything. Still wanted to mention it. Maybe the unistaller forgot to uninstall parts of the mod.
Like Chris1959 I think, this mod sounds very promising and interesting, and so I would appreciate some help so that I can play it. Besides this: Thank you for taking the time creating it and improving this wonderful game!
Just done a complete re-install, defrag etc, this times in Programma Files and I got the same error and message as Quirinus
I got the exact same message, so I uninstalled everything and started over. RTW, 1.3, 1.5, then BI, then 1.6, then EB 1.1, then your mod. THIS time, the mod starts up, shows the Barbarorus loading screen, then freezes. It stops responding and when I terminate the program, the option to send an error report pops up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris1959
C:\DOCUME~1\Owner\LOCALS~1\Temp\WER2a8b.dir00\RomeTW-BI.exe.mdmp
C:\DOCUME~1\Owner\LOCALS~1\Temp\WER2a8b.dir00\appcompat.txt
that's the information I could get from it...
I'll keep messing with it and see what happens.
I'll keep you posted.
Thank you Thrawny and good luck!
I solved the problem for me by following the instructions in this post:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...3&postcount=85
and then installing the mod.
I followed only the ones about renaming the files and did not create a shortcut, because the installer does that. While installing it seemed to be a little irritaded and got stuck for a while with the loading bar twisting about, but then it finished successfully and I could start a campain. So far it works fine, though I did not have the time to test a lot yet.
Good luck to you, Chris and Thrawny.
Just wanted to send a postive word out as well ... I had no problem w/ your install and the game has been very stable (somehow more stable then my EB v1.1). I really appreciate your efforts and think they really paid off ... keep up the good work!
My only suggestion is that less troops be able to swim there are some troops that have quite a bit of armor and are still able to swim ... I think that only the lightest (unarmored) of troops should be able to swim.
Another suggestion for consideration is to bring down the expense for the maintenance of navies not because it wasn't expensive but you just end up with stacks of pirates because no one can maintain a proper navy. Especially playing with BI (not officially supported by EB) the computer is actually capable of some raiding and a navy becomes more important, enough so that some landbridges could be removed. Now people complain the stacks they bring are small and I have rarely seen anything bigger then 10 but even a 5-6 unit stack can bring me a world of hurt in Italy as I rarely have a garrison bigger then 1 slinger / or a general in a city. Also pirates should only be able to bloackade damaging the player economically, and take out the odd transport, a proper navy should win out 90% of the time. If the pirate stats were brought down even more the 1 attack maybe 2 defend and their spawn rate was actuaslly increased the economic damage they could do would be increased ... at the same it would motivate the powers to maintain at least a small navy and give them a chance to defeat the pirates at sea.
Hi , I am very interested in this add-on, but is it possible to install only perm. fixes and not temp. ones? I have client ruler script removed from my game and temp. fixes would mess my game up.
I don't have any temporary fixes in my installer. Only the permanent and optional ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow_LT
Historically speaking, navies are expensive to maintain. Pirates blockading ports is a simulation of pirates plundering your trade traffic. Once you secure a bunch of coastal cities in an area, the pirate navies tend to die down. Or you have a significant fleet on patrol.Quote:
Originally Posted by dutch81
If facing naval invasion, either you keep decent stacks of units where invasions take place, or build a navy.
Of course, you could always mod the unit costs of navies yourself.
If you've installed the game in a different location than the default in program files, you have to point the installer to the new location. Try reinstalling again and picking the correct folder when prompted to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris1959
Can you remember which units seemed odd with the swim ability? I can take a closer look at the EDU then.Quote:
Originally Posted by dutch81
Good day everyone,
I tried installing your mod after I did a fresh install off EB on top of BI but when I get ingame and try to click 'Main Campaign' it gives me 'Please select an option from the list below' and I can only chose 'Historical battle' or 'custom battle'.
Then when I close EB it gives me an error message saying: "Script error in eb/data/world/maps/barbarian_invasion/descr.strat.txt at line 31, column 1." "Expected start date of campaign or battle"
Any idea on what I did wrong exactly?
Cheers
sounds like you pointed the installer to the wrong directory...
I chose the following path: D:\Program Files (x86)\Activision\Rome - Total War
The default path that my installer points to is the same default folder of a typical RTW installation. If you choose not to install in the default folder, my installer has to point TO THE SAME DIRECTORY.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aut Nihil
And so I did ... RTW is installed on my D drive, not C and I just changed the drive letter to 'D' during the install ... still doesn't work.
You don't happen to be running Windows Vista, do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aut Nihil
Unfortunately I do, Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit edition
Well, that may explain most of your problems. Try this: Right-click an EXE or its shortcut and select "Run as administrator" from the context menu.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aut Nihil
This may sound like a pretty dumb question because I am rather computer illiterate:
Is there an easy way to avoid ovewriting a RTW.exe installation with this BI installation, so that I could switch back and forth between with relativ ease? I have had some nasty luck trying this with 1.1 and a 1.0 installation: I tried to copy the data folder, so I would have one for both so that I could switch back and forth, but after I installed my 1.0 saves ended up being invalid using either data folder. I'm just hoping to keep 1.1 RTW.exe saves that I can go back to, alongside a BI installation of 1.1. Thanks for any help.
your RTW exe will still be there and you can switch back and forth during the same campaign.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ricardo the Patriot
back in 1.0 i had a persistent crash on RTW exe and switching to BI exe actually helped me bypass this point. from then on i always make sure i have both, RTW and BI exes.
For those using Windows Vista, I just thought of another solution to problems using my installer. I could be due to the simple fact that you installed RTW to the "Program Files" directory. This sets off the security "features" of windows vista. I suggest following the recommendation of th EB team and installing to something like C:\Games\Rome Total War\ or C:\Rome Total War. Another solution would be to avoid using Windows Vista altogether if you have the patience of reinstalling Windows XP. I personally recommend windows XP 64-bit if your processor has 64 bit extensions. Vista cocks up a lot of games; only use it if a game explicitly needs directX 10.
another, more simple, option for using Vista is to just disable UAC...it will save you alot of annoyance
Hi everyone, I'm new to the forum and I'm having trouble with Ferromancer's installer for EB1.1. The game loads to the menu screen but I can't start a campaign. It gives me a message saying "please choose an item from the list" when I click to go to the faction choosing screen.
Here is everything I've done, most likely I'm missing a step....:book:
I started with a fresh install of vanilla rome, then installed BI, then EB, and then Ferromancers installer for BI. Then I tried playing and it gave me the above error. I haven't started a campaign with RomeTW.exe and have no save games, but the custom battles work with BI. What I'm I doing wrong?:help:
PS: I also noticed at the loading screen after the opening cinematic that it always gives me the same historical quote about the caledonians saying they are the last free people in the world every time I run the game. Anyone else notice this?
EDIT:This might be similar to gosam's problem from the second post on this thread, but since it's an updated version from the one he refers to, it might not be.
So this will work with 1.0?
you installed it to the wrong directory...Quote:
Originally Posted by Outlaw Ralph
Well hopefully you guys can help me with this. I'm using Ferromancer's mod plus Force Diplomacy and I don't know whether this is just a save that got corrupted or a fixable problem. I installed everything properly and all was going well but now whenever I try to load this particular save it gets to the end and CTDs. A shame really but thankfully I have a previous save that is not too far back but if anyone wants to check it out, here it is.
Save link: http://www.axifile.com/?2280444
I am playing as Romani.
@mcantu
I don't think it's the wrong directory...
I installed rome, eb, and bi toI made a backup of this folder then installed the installer for EB with BI to the original folder. Is this the wrong directory or is there some other problem? I'm using Vista btw.Code:C:\Users\Ralph\Games\Rome - Total War
I'm confused about install order on this.
In which order do I install Barbarian Invasion, Patch 1.6, EB, and the EB/BI patch?
Mostly wondering if I need 1.6 at all.
yes you need 1.6...
Can you install Darth Mod on top?
yes. or any of the other formation mods as well...
I'm having the same problem as Ralph, can you clarify what you mean here? I installed R:TW, installed BI, and installed the 1.6 patch. I then installed EB to the base Rome Total War directory and then installed this to that same directory. Was I supposed to install either EB or this to the BI directory instead?Quote:
Originally Posted by mcantu
Anyone?Quote:
Originally Posted by vinraith
I had the same problems with this installer a few month ago. I then followed the advises in this old thread after installing Ferromancers mod: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...3&postcount=85
If I remember it well, I did not have to create a shortcut, because the installer did that, but I renamed the files and since then it worked.
Does this installer work with EB1.2?
I reinstalled 1.1, used the installer, then 1.2 over that and it works perfectly. (I only had to reinstall due to all my minimods, if you have none you should be good just installing 1.2 over EB 1.1-BI).
Not everything works. The shield wall and swim abilities are not working if you just install 1.2 over 1.1
That being said, the no banners, night battles, and BI AI are all working.
Same thing happened to me... I installed to: "C:\Program Files\The Creative Assembly\Rome: Total War"Quote:
Originally Posted by Aut Nihil
I tried it the other way: install 1.1, then 1.2, then EB for BI. Several 1.2 fixes seem to be downgraded or even broken by EB (1.1) for BI, most notably the client ruler changes. Pre-scripted client rulers with generalized unit types still spawn when you build an allied government, as in 1.1, but they don't have the Client Ruler trait. On the other hand, you can recruit new generals with local unit types as in 1.2, but they don't get the Recruited General trait.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish
So it seems to me that the EB for BI installer needs to be updated for 1.2. Until then, I'll happily give up BI unit abilities (in my own opinion they're unbalancing anyway) in order to be sure I have all the EB 1.2 enhancements.
Okay, i disabled night battles so now i get past the "select an item from the list box" but now, when i click a faction and click Start campaign, I get a CTD. No error message.
I got that too. It seems to be a compatibility issue IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexanderSextus
until a 1.2 version is made, just select the option to install EB for BI...do not select any of the other options. i did this while beta-testing 1.2 and it works
that is in fact the case with me. It still CTD's. god knows why-again compatability is the prime suspect.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcantu
You sure you don't have any conflicting minimods are anything like that?
Is anyone working on the 1.2 version, out of curiosity? This mod was very good for 1.1 and it'd be even better for 1.2.
yes-I keep a thurough record of this. no conflicts.Quote:
Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name
Hello Everybody. I just had a kid, so I've been out of the loop for about two months. Well, I also moved to a new city and got a new job, so more like 4 months. Popped in here today to find out there was a new version! I'll have to evaluate which particular files have changed in the 1.2 patch then update them. It seems people here have already covered what works and doesn't work. You could install the 1.2 patch is installed over my installer. This will of course remove the new combat abilities of units. Another option is to uninstall my patch, install 1.2, then reinstall my patch with only the "main" option, and the "hide banners/triangles" if you so choose.
It looks like the following work needs to be done:
1) Integrate updated unit stats
2) Remove the 1.1 permanent/optional fixes
3) Add the 1.2 fixes
I'll keep you guys posted on my progress.
Congrats man. What a busy 4 months.
GOOD NEWS EVERYBODY!
I found some time this weekend to completely revamp my installer to make way for version 1.2 of EB as well as the 1.2 fixes that have come out.
Other changes to the installer:
- Fixes can now be installed separately from the main section.
- Night battle character traits are now completely edited in place, which will increase compatability with other mods. It does make the installer slower though as the traits file is huge.
- The realism changes in the preferences file can now be uninstalled.
Click on my sig to get back to the first page of the thread to get more info and download it.
Just so you know, the download link is broken, I get this message:
Secure Connection Failed
www.freeformatics.com uses an invalid security certificate.
The certificate is not trusted because it is self signed.
(Error code: sec_error_ca_cert_invalid)
Goddammit, I pasted the https version. I'll fix it in a jiffy. Normally though you should be able to just hit "okay" to get through the self-signed certificate.
Thanks a lot for updating your fantastic mod, Ferromancer. :2thumbsup:
Because I'm not sure if I have the permission to give balloons (never understood the system behind - in fact I'm not even sure there is a system) take this handful of virtual cookies instead... ~:)
*NOM NOM NOM NOM*
Delifiouf... nom nom... tanks!
Great work!
Is there a specific reason why videos are disabled?
Have you checked your preferences? I don't turn them off if that's what you're asking.
It could be a bug.