You want me to put in a report in the council every single turn? :clown:Quote:
Originally Posted by gibsonsg91921
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You want me to put in a report in the council every single turn? :clown:Quote:
Originally Posted by gibsonsg91921
just a quick post, u don't need to do one of the big chancellor reports like what happens in KOTR. we're too early on for long posts anyways
Done. We had an adoption offer for a very bad, disloyal general. I rejected him. I hope that's ok.
Money is very tight, so we need to decide whether to disband or conquer. Given that Lithuania starts with a few large, nasty looking armies, I'd go for the latter. We need those men.
I'd conquer. I ain't afraid of Lithuania, especially if my army is the one with those Dismounted Ritterbruder. I think it's Dietrich's, unfortunately, but Hans has a pretty nice army himself. We need to hit Lithuanian cities and get roads built everywhere.
Dietrich has the Ritterbruder (will probably transfer to Maximillian's army, since at this point they're a prestigious unit). You do have the best cavalry unit, a unit of Halfbruder.Quote:
Originally Posted by gibsonsg91921
Excellent! If you want to start the next turn nobody's stopping you, but if you don't have the time there's no rush.
Well I just threw the idea of MP around but...
I got the idea from the MP in WWII. As we don't have heaps of players now, we only have one MP.
The MP could be voted in, or perhaps chosen by Hochmeister? THey would then focus on destroying Rebels, keeping unhappy cities under control, escorting Allied Armies, that sort of thing.
We could change and add a few things but I reckon it sounds okay.
Yeah, that sounds cool! Let's wait until deguerra and RoadKill have avatars and then we can introduce the new position of Military Policeman and the Hochmeister can choose one for each Council session.
Ok, guys, turn two is done. We have two battles, one for Warluster and one for gibsonsg91921. It might be a bit ebfore I can upload the save(someone's using the comp with the good internet connection) but in the meantime I'll try to upload on my dial-up.
deguerra, you are officially Karl Scherer. He has no command stars yet, but is young (27), and has a few good traits (including marks of war, which gives hit points and authority if you ever become Hochmeister).
I should have rephrased that last post, gibsonsg91921, Halfbruder are our best current cavalry unit, but there is a mounted ritterbruder we'll get some day.
Sweet! I can't wait to fight 'er. When it's uploaded just post here, and I might be able to fight it tonight.
Good news, I should be able to get it up in a few minutes. Sadly, Hans' battle is a bit lame, it's only against rebels (the Lithuanians are on their way, though). Waluster has an assault on Palanga, which has a weak garrison, but they have a decent reinforcing army.
I won't be able to fight mine, please Auto Resolve.
I hope Scherer is luckier then the one in KotR.
Edit: Seeing as it is a decent battle, maybe someone else would want to fight it?
I let a young whippersnapper command the dismounted Ritterbruder and you can't fight the battle. Tsk tsk. :clown:
You should cream them in autoresolve. :yes:
I'll fight my battle now and Zim can auto-resolve when I get it back.
I like fighting rebels and creaming them, I'm not too great a battler. I'm ok though, I have a few Heroic Victories in KOTR and had one that was my only battle in Magna Carta.
Ah, Magna Carta. What happened to that? it just died...
[long reminicsing rant] Well back in my day... [/long reminicsing rant]Quote:
Originally Posted by Zim
I'll try and think up some other stuff, like MP. Good way to find stuff is go over history.
Yeah, let's try to make this game a precedent people follow! Haha
Alright, I got it!
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/...sade1252-1.zip
If that doesn't work, go into the filespace and hit last modified twice, it'll go right to the top.
With Warluster unable to fight the battle, that leaves only one.
Meister Hans
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
up up and away!
edit: fought, not gonna bother posting the screenshot. 4% losses, 87% kills.
save uploading
Sorry, gibsonsg91921. When I saw there were no new posts in the thread, I assumed you hadn't done the battle yet. :clown: I'll get us at least one more turn tonight.
Ok guys, another turn has passed. Poland came begging for an alliance, and Palanga was taken, but we have some tough decisions to make as well. Check the council thread for details.
Also, we have another avatar, Athalwolf von Essen. His stats are great. :2thumbsup:
So deguerra is Karl Scherer and RoadKill is Athalwolf von Essen? Excellent.
Alright, before I can end the turn we have one battle for Karl Scherer (deguerra).
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/...sade1253-1.zip
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Also, I'm disappointed moreof you weren't outraged IC by the Novgorod-Lithuanian alliance. :clown:
am at work at the moment. will do my outraging and fighting when I get home :D
I can outrage soon!
Hooray outraging!
save is up
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/...sade1253-2.rar
(hope .rar is ok, I didn't have anything else)
Battle was fairly uneventful. Village was better fortified than expected, and with a decent AI would have given me a fair run for my money. As it was losses were about 10% (30 men) although I must confess quite a few of the ChristKnights copped it :D (nine of them).
We gained a grand 1 florin from occupying the village. Both exterminating and sacking would have killed 14 people and gotten us nothing. So I figured 1 was best :D
Screenshots and a brief report at some later stage.
Cool. I'll take the save and move it to the next turn. Hans may have a battle over the AI turn.
I can handle .rar files.
As I expected, there was a battle in the AI turn. Hans, sieging Hrodna, was attacked by three armies. Two are tiny and suck, and the last one is larger and sucks. :clown: All together they might be a challenge, but since they'll likely come one by one, it should be easy. I'll get the save up as soon as I can.
Elite Ferret will be getting a battle next turn, to relieve Windau, which appears to have a decent force sieging it. From there, he'll move south to take some unit from Dietrich, and starting kicking butt.
The war is heating up, guys. :thumbsup:
Forgive the triple post, but I wanted the thread to show as having a new post so it doesn't get skipped over.
gibsonsg91921, you're up. :yes:
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/...sade1253-3.zip
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Hey guys, how are we handling expansion in the long run? I know we'll want to reconnect the Order territories, but will we keep up a similiar pace after? In short, how long a game would you like?
I'd want a long game. As long as it stays active, I don't see why it won't be as fun as KOTR.
Ok, I wasn't sure. I know we don't have rules like Edicts to incorporate, but that make sense as a military Order. I just wanted to make sure I didn't push expansion too fast in my term.
I've found that if you leave the western half of the map alone long enough, sone of the three factions there becomes dominant. Since thy're all Catholic and not targets, that gives us a good target for the end game. :yes:
Should we put together some kind of stack composition rules like in KOTR?
Picking up the save, I'll double post when I'm done and it's uploaded.
Done, Heroic Victory. The Novgorod's proposed trade rights and map information before i got a chance to save and i accidentally refused, which isn't bad cuz im sure we would have anyway.
FrozenCrusade1253-4.zip is the file.
Ok, you ended the turn then? Hans has a battle so I might as well let Elite Ferret take it before I do anything. Did you get the city?
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/...sade1253-4.zip
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Yeah, the turn is over. I sacked Hrodna and executed the prisoners.
Taking the save.
well I would if it didn't link to atomic gamer :P
I'm guessing it's a .rar file in the archive then.
It's a zip, I must have done something wrong typing up the link.
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/?C=M;O=D
umm a new guy got offered as soon as I loaded up the save he has:
0 command
1 dread
7 loyalty
3 piety
he is below 30 (IIRC) and is called Markus Otterbach. I accepted seeing as the benefactor was my avatar :clown:
I'll mention him in the Council post for this turn. :yes:
battle fought and save uploaded:http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/...sade1253-5.rar
stats:
https://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2903/fc1ce8.th.jpg
Nice, I'll get us through the next turn today.:yes:
Ok, I need to ask a question of one of the experienced KOTR players here. An army is marching on Konigsburg. I can play a battle myself (as the Hochmeister) but I need to pull troops down from Palanga to match them. Is it within my authority as a chancellor type figure to do so?
If I need permission is it from Dietrich, who the troops are currently under, or Meister Hans, who they were promised to?
Usually the chancellor does decide this, AFAIK. In KotR garrisons can be used freely as the Chancellor orders but troops from Household armies or suchlike need permision to be used usually. But hey your the Faction leader and Chancellor, who's going to stop you or notice :clown:
Ok, just checking. Technically, I'm not sure we have "Household armies" at the moment, unless you count the troop I put under Hans and Maximillian (Max is getting those men I'm about to use, not Hans. I mistyped).
In that case, I'll fight the battle now. :yes: No more this turn, should have a report soon.
Chancellors have pretty strong leeway, and a Hochmeister especially seeing as they're the faction leaders elected for life.
I'm starting to think I should give up on leading battles in these games. After a rather bloody battle in the woods, I thought I was doing well. Took some losses from their horsearchers, but closed in, and routed nearly their whole army (with the rest withdrawing).
Then a shot from a mangonel crew (with fire at will turned off and specifically ordered to stop firing :furious3: ) killed the Hochmeister! :wall:
Somehow I got a man of the hour promotion for the Hochmeister's army. Rupert Bresch. He's taken control and is awaiting orders.
Oddly, Hans seems to have been made the heir in the prior turn. I think whoever has the highest command becomes Ordensmarschall, and he might have gotten 1 star from that last battle of his.
Ok, Maximillian has a battle. I should be able to upload it in a bit.
Since the Hochmeister has died, I guess I'll make the report OOC in here. Windau is safe, Hrodna has been secured. We are making some 1,000 florins in profitc per turn, and build queues are beginning to be fulfilled this turn. If Maximillian wins this next battle, which drew a city garrison out, then we will be making plenty of money.
The Hochmeister never assigned Roadkill's character (von Essen) to an Order, as he hasn't replied to my pm asking which he prefers. Rupert would prefer the Prussian Order, since Hans' having to leave it makes it a bit short.
Also, Palanga was never assigned. :clown: I meant to leave portioning out the Lithuanian territories to Orders after the war. I had planned to have the new Teutonic Order capital in the center, but hadn't decided if Palanga would be better, being on the sea, of something like Vilnius, directly in the middle of the territories we're taking.
For the MP thing, should I suggest it to the Council?
Yeah, outline all the details. We can implement it next session.
Guys, since it's the middle of the night where EF is, and he probably won't get to his battle until tomorrow, why don't we work out some of the unassigned counties and such, and start a vote on whether Rupert can finish the Schatzmeistership of Gunther?
this is excellent. karl scherer felt very unappreciated so I"m going to make him a bit of a nasty meister, but don't worry his sentiments do not reflect my own.
is there any reason we shouldnt let Rupert take over as Schatzmeister?
None OOC, but IC it might be a bit odd to give away such an important title to a new general, even if he does have the old one's army for the moment. I think only the Hochmeister can have the title without a vote, so it may be prudent to hold one for Rupert, since half the term has not been filled.Quote:
Originally Posted by deguerra
well its not like we HAVE that many generals. as i said IC, could I OOC ask for a list of territories, generals and their positions within the order. just to make things clearer
If I recalle correctly gibsonsg91921 made a list like that at the beginning of one of the old game threads. Maybe he could update it?
I can put one together tonight, but I have to go in a bit.
Konigsburg is Imperial land for the time being, likely to be returned to Prussia at the end of the war. Only Thorn and Marienburg are Prussian, with the latter the capital of Prussia. There are no Prussian Counts/whatever religious orders would call them.
Livonia is the larger and wealthier of the two Orders, amusingly, since it starts with more territory and hasn't lost one to be the Order capital. I think only we are in the Prussian Order/Chapter, plus maybe the unassigned general.
Counts are Komturs.
Koenigsberg would be...Order territory I suppose, but not Imperial :P
And Livonia may be larger, but Prussia is obviously the home of the order and as such more prestigious :P But I am Meister and would say that.
:clown:
But thanks anyway, that gives me a bit of an overview
Close enough. :clown: I'll get these terms down yet. So, mein Meister, shall I be Komtur of Thorn?
Ok, Maximillian is up for a battle.
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/...sade1254-1.zip
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do that stuff IC! the meister of thorn stuff.
I'm not sure it would be polite for Bresch to ask to be Komtur of Thorn IC. :clown: Of course, the announcement could be made IC.
Too bad we aren't having some sort of cataclysm, with all of the Hochmeister's old army, and the several units added from Dietrich's, my new character now leads a force by far the largest the game has seen in its short life. :laugh4:
Komtur of thorn, Meister of Prussia. Ill get you there yet
Why does Karl feel unappreciated? Is that a trait of his?
Well, we did send him with a mighty host to conquer a village with only florin in it. :clown:
yeh he has that trait. hes also handsome and with the village thing I thought it would make for good roleplaying
Wow, Prussia looks a lot smaller with its territories listed out next to those of Livonia like that.
yeah, kinda. Hrodna and Bialystok will go to Prussia, and Konigsburg will go back, and right now Palanga's looking like a good capital. But not yet.
Just wait until after the war. If Hans doesn't pull a Jan (my first character to die in a successful attack, in KOTR), then he'll have a lot of territories to apportion.
I've proposed the Edict, hope it explains a lot. I've tried to RP my character as young and angry.
:laugh4: We have a lot of angry youngsters lately. I wonder how I should roleplay Rupert, with his beginning with dread.
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Originally Posted by Warluster
???? I thought Maximilian had more command stars? I'm sure in my previous games the Ordensmarshall has always become the next Hochmeister and it's the next Ordensmarshall that is selected by command rating. Very very strange. I'll fight the battle now.
Edit: Hans starts off with one command star and Max has 4, I don't see how he could have gained so many from just tow battles.
Hmmm...that is odd. I'll look at the save in a bit. I kept some of the older ones as well. Maybe it's a bug or something. Even if it is, I don't think we can change it, though. :no:
You have a battle from this post, EF. :yes:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=138
no I checked before the battle and Hans did have more command, I didn't realise he even had a famous battle marker to show for it! Battle won:
men lost: 75
men killed:149
prisoners executed:259+enemy general
Max has gained another point of dread and some more command, he's the top general again now :clown: Doesn't look like he'll become Hochmeister unless Hans dies in battle though, he's older by about 10 years.
I'm sorry, something odd must have happened when he fought those 3 battles for Hrodna. :sweatdrop:
Yeah, that's really weird. Who knows! Probably some bug.
Hey, EF, did you upload the save. I'm having trouble finding it. :sweatdrop:
oops I've done it again, I wrote the post and forgot to post it or upload the save :wall: I'm such an idiot at times, sorry
save:http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/...sade1254-2.rar
I'll get us to the next turn then. :yes:
Alright. Make sure you post the report and battles in the Council.
I'll get mine up tonight. :2thumbsup:
Sorry about the delay, my wireless was on the fritz last night, New save should be up today, with, I suspect, battles for Hans and Maximillian.
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/...sade1255-1.zip
Ok, it took only one turn to get two new battles. :sweatdrop:
We have two battles.
Gibson, Hans is ready to assault a decent sized Lithuanian settlement. Souldbe fairly straightforward.
Elite Ferret, you have a tougher possible battle. Novgorod has besieged Riga with a large army. You can relieve them, but it will be tough. At most, maybe the garrison and army together are equal to their's Rupert can send you some(or a lot) of reinforcements, but you'll have to wait an extra turn if this happens, and Riga may fall.