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How else are you going to get people to talk other than voting them or accusing them. I'm just trying to get people to talk. The more discussion we have the more likely we are to get a mafioso to slip up or make a mistake. I think it's called Sasaki's Law:laugh4: Before GF2 I acted in almost the same way. Hard to believe I know :shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by Husar
I agree with Kommodus, Reenk Roink is a much better choice than Csar. This is the first game he's deviated from his abstaining, it's probably because he's been lynched for it in the past and he wants to stay alive. He is also capable of being the Wanax writer, and now that I think of it the write up for my kill is very much like him.
Csar just wants his post count up. He'd stay low like last game (which was very succesful) if he was mafia.
What exactly is the swing of things? :juggle2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Csar
Because all you "experts" clearly haven't found the Mafia yet, so maybe you could educate this "noob" on how to help? For me, I'm just reading words. I understand that sometimes a person will give something away through wrong choice of words, but I'll be honest - I haven't been assessing every word of every post. I've just been reading things and hoping other people would come up with some convincing arguments as to which way I should be voting. After all, you guys are the experts, right?
Come on, people. Someone else vote.
That's just horrible. In GF1 Sasaki and GH led bandwagons against people and they won as the mafia. Following someone else's arguements (that you know is not innocent) is not a good thing to do. If anything follow Kommodus atleast he's a proven innocent and has a weird way of catching mafioso's. In Mafia IV: he got Masy with some kind of mathematical thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Craterus
I'm not going to blindly jump on bandwagons. I'm just waiting for some people to throw some ideas around and actually provide a bit of evidence. Once I've had a closer look at these things and decided if this person is worth the vote, I'll make a decision.
That's why you should all vote Reenk Roink.
Why are you so intent on killing RR?:inquisitive: I trust Kommodus's judgement so I'll vote RR.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Unvote:Craterus
Vote:Reenk Roink
How dare you insult me with such a slander of my good name. :(Quote:
Csar just wants his post count up. He'd stay low like last game (which was very succesful) if he was mafia
Ugh... I have a feeling I'll regret this (either Csar is the real mafioso and I single-handedly got him off gallows, or my assasination is coming up right after this tie is decided)
Unvote: Csar
Vote: Reenk Roink
He was part of the EB team, may have some knowledge on the wanax prospect. Supposed suspicious activity in different behaviour from other games? I wouldn't know :confused:
Voting over (finally).
Stand by for the execution.
RR usually abstains the entire game. But this game he stopped abstaining around the time BG got lynched. It's weird for him to do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Craterus
Chief of Police Beirut was is no mood to have another revote after there was a tie. So he kept voting open a lot longer in hopes that some of the less-active villagers would take the hint and vote.
No such luck. Those people just kept doing... whatever it was that they did. Still determined, however, Beirut kept the voting open through the oddly clear night. It was the most beautiful night that any of the villagers in the Frontroom had ever seen. The temperature was perfect, there was not a cloud in the sky, and a shooting star even passed over their heads.
Maybe that's why nobody else bothered to vote, because they wanted to stay out in the night for a little while longer. But finally, the tie had been broken. Craterus had changed his vote from Csar to Reenk Roink, thus unwittingly sealing discovery1's fate.
Disco went nuts when he heard the final tally. It took six villagers to restrain him from killing Craterus. He was dragged to a freshly-dug gravesite, kicking and screaming and yelling at Craterus. The majority of the material is unprintable.
"You should be an honorary Michigan Wolverine, you *bleep*! You and the rest of you *bleep* *bleep* *bleeeeeeeeeeeeep*!"
Beirut looked at Disco with utter contempt. "Discovery1," he said, "You are hereby sentenced to death for un-Frontroomish language and murder, in that order. Ordinarily I would ask you if you had any last words, but I think I already know what they are. So..."
Beirut kicked Disco in his privates. Disco, gasping, tumbled into his grave, and Beirut started shoveling the dirt back on. Eventually he was completely buried and the townspeople could still hear him gasping for breath.
"Okay people," Beirut said. "That's all."
"ABSOLUTELY NOT," said a voice that seemed to come from everywhere at once and nowhere at all at the same time.
"H-huh?" Beirut was shocked. "W-who is this? Is this the mayor? I'm s-sorry Sir, it's just-"
"SILENCE!" the voice boomed. "THIS IS GOD. SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW ME AS GENERAL HANKERCHIEF.
"IT APPEARS TO ME AS IF SOME OF YOU PATHETIC VILLAGERS CARE LITTLE FOR WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS GLORIOUS KINGDOM OF PEACE AND LOVE, THE FRONTROOM. SO I SAY THIS TO THEM: IF YOU DON'T CARE FOR YOUR VILLAGE, THEN SURELY YOU DON'T CARE FOR YOUR WELL-BEING. HOPEFULLY AFTER THIS THERE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PARTICIPATION, AND THEN MAYBE YOU CAN GET RID OF THE MAFIA."
The shooting star that they had seen earlier looped around, and started to come closer to the earth. The villagers ran away, but three people stood transfixed, gaping at the meteor that was coming closer and closer.
It impacted the town square in a fiery crash, leaving a crater three times as big as the one in Matrix: Revolutions in the final battle between Neo and Smith. After they were sure that no other meteors were coming, the villagers made their way to the crater, and saw three bodies inside. They were clearly the corpses of Drisos, God's Grace, and Masy.
"MAYBE NOW YOU CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER AND VANQUISH THE MAFIA. I WILL LEAVE YOU NOW... UNLESS MORE PEOPLE DECIDE TO BE LAZY."
"Wait a minute," yelled one villager. "What do all those Bible passages mean?"
There was just some eerie laughter, and that was all.
Here is the voting total for Round 5:
discovery1: 3 (Destroyer of Hope, Crazed Rabbit, discovery1) :skull:
Csar: 2 (Xiahou, Ignoramus)
Reenk Roink: 2 (Csar, Craterus)
Sigurd Fafnesbane: 1 (Reenk Roink)
Masy: 1 (Seamus Fermanagh)
Absained: 1 (Don Corleone)
Didn't vote: 7 (Kagemusha, Silver Rusher, Dutch_guy, Sigurd Fafnesbane, Drisos, God's Grace, Masy)
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Still alive: (13)
Seamus Fermanagh
Kagemusha
Craterus
Xiahou
Silver Rusher
Don Corleone
Crazed Rabbit
Ignoramus
Csar
Reenk Roink
Destroyer of Hope
Dutch_guy
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Wrath of God/Committed seppuku:
Divine Wind
Drisos
God's Grace
Masy
Killed:
UltraWar
Sir Moody
Pannonian
Evil_Maniac From Mars
Sasaki Kojiro
theRTWGuru
Kommodus
Proletariat
AggonyDuck
doc_bean
Executed:
Hepcat
Banquo's Ghost
Zalmoxis
Husar
discovery1
Note from GH: Masy asked to commit suicide because he had a lot of studying to do coming up and couldn't really make it here. The other two were Wrath of Godded. I will kill more if I have to.
I had read Kommodus' accusation last night, but only wanted to respond now. You will see why...
I, Reenkasnoop, am the detective. :2thumbsup:
I choose to reveal now, because I am as good as dead. I will be lynched by you because Kommodus is pretty good about his picks (though he was uncertain about me). If not, then the Mafia will kill me later on. But I am certain they won't kill me this round, because I am a convenient scapegoat, and every lynch counts now.
This realism system of GH is very helpful, because I can make investigations without worry of being killed immediately.
Sorry to say, but I have not pinpointed any Mafia.
I do have my journal/write-up going:
Sigurd was my investigation this round and he was innocent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenkasnoop
I am extremely confused myself... :huh:
Now, I don't know why Kommodus named me the Wanax. I can guess he was PM watching, though I have been careful to send my PM's to GH. I never use InvisibleMode, so it is possible he got me there. Also, I absentmindedly sent some PM's to Keba about the end fight of NWN2 from a thread in the Arena.
As for my voting record, I have abstained twice, not voted once, and voted twice. I have been less likely to abstain, because I am sick of getting voted because of it. I also stopped it in the other Mafia game, and I will stop it from now on.
Sasaki's accusations I pay no heed to. He is a very unethical player, simply leveling accusations at anyone who he wishes. Not like me who was so particular about voting ethically. :bow:
Anyway, you guys can certainly compare the writing styles of the Mafia with my posts (the ones in the Backroom are long and detailed). I can already see two things that differ from my posts and the Mafia's:
1) Look at the spellings. They are European, at least for the Wanax.
2) Both Mafia's use quotations like standard English. They embed punctuation within the quotes. I think that this is a stupid rule, and I keep punctuation outside of the quotes.
Anyway, You have 4 players who are innocent, making your chances for lynching a Mafia better. I know I am going to die, and because of my clean conscience, I accept my fate. :bow:
You have three choices villagers:
1) Lynch me now. This is a good option because it will stop the use of the Mafia from manipulating me to serve there ends.
2) Put you total trust in me. I know this is hard to do, but it would also help you. It is quite unrealistic, and if I were a villager, I would not elect this option myself. I wish I could post my screenshot but alas, I cannot. :sad:
3) Let me live this round. Don't do this. The Mafia will use it to manipulate us. They could well let me live, causing more suspicion.
Again, good luck villagers. :bow:
Ahahaha. I'm sorry but that whole journal thing smacks of a pre-planned piece to convince the town once you got accused. I did the same thing.
I also like how you point out the differences in the kills writing style from your own to prove you aren't mafia...YOU wrote the kills remember? Or did you as detective just happen to compare the writing style of the kills to your own as you read it?
Also, if you were detective, you wouldn't reveal this round. Since Kommodus had fingered you, you were safe from the mafia tonight. You would have waited to see if it would blow over and made sure you got another investigation in tonight. Detective reveal right after "pm's please" is the worst timing ever. But since you are mafia you don't worry about being killed do you?
Also where are your PM's from GH Reenk?
There's nothing there that would convince me that your the detective.
This would be the worst possible time to reveal.
Right after the lynchings mean the mafia could kill you in the very next 'killings'. You're basically pinning a huge target on yourself, yet you're worried about being lynched?
Crazed Rabbit
Also,
Real detective, if you're still alive, don't reveal.
And you say I'm trying to increase my post count.:inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Original PM:Quote:
Originally Posted by Csar
Kagemusha investigation:Quote:
Congratulations Reenk Roink, you're the detective!
It is your goal to help to town survive. Every "night" (after I post the execution) it is your job to PM me with the name of the person you wish to investigate. I will send you a reply of whether the person is innocent or guilty.
The new "realism system" mentioned has to do with the time you send me PMs. Basically, if you PM me with your investigation before the Mafia send your kills in, the Detective will get his result first, and vice versa. Most likely this will only apply if you wish to reveal yourself and want to get an investigation result in before the kills, but stranger things have happened.
I will soon post the list of everyone alive/playing in the thread. Once that happens, pick who you would like to investigate.
Good luck, watch out for the Mafia, and happy hunting! PM me if you have any questions.
General Hankerchief
Pannonian investigation:Quote:
Heh.
That may be true, but not this time. Kagemusha is innocent.
Divine Wind investigation:Quote:
Innocent, sorry.
Destroyer of Hope investigation:Quote:
Divine Wind is completely innocent.
Csar investigation:Quote:
Destroyer of Hope is just your normal, non-mafia, innocent villager.
Sorry.
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Sorry, but your gut feeling is wrong. Csar is innocent.
Seems legit RR. But I'm not sure.
On the objection that "it is the worst time to reveal":
Sorry, but I am utilizing GH's new realism system. I sent my PM in early, after GH said that there would be no tie break, and he would check the thread in the morning. Once I got word that Sigurd was innocent, I decided to reveal.
Why not reveal before the lynch votes come in?
Kommodus' accusation essentially sealed my fate, and I don't want the Mafia to use me as a manipulation tool.
That's why I tell the villagers to lynch me now, or believe me fully. Don't get wishy-washy.
This argument is inept.
Normally I wouldn't even bother to address Sasaki's remarks, but this case is obviously different.
The writing styles are different from mine, and I got the idea to examine them more closely from you. Look at one of the reasons you gave to lynch me:
...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Csar would know this better than anyone... :wink:
Now, to the rest of the reasonable villagers. I know Kommodus is pretty accurate in his system, and therefore, I understand if you want to lynch me. I would do the same thing in your position.
So, if you are not convinced by me, make sure you lynch me this round.
Maybe I'm naïve, but I believe him.
Reenk edited out the screenshots showing his correspondance with GH from Mafia IV today:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=511
GUILTY
Wow, there's the things I'm supposed to be watching out for. Does that mean we can assume that one of those people he declared innocent is his accomplice?
No we can't assume anything from the list he gave, and it would be a terrible mistake to do so. He most likely knew he was going to be lynched and decided to try and flush out the real detective.
I believe Reenk. He can be well Reenk like sometimes,but i think he is the real detective. I have been thinking hard and long and if reenks list is accurate,i think that i have a suspect for the second Mafioso. Don Corleone.I think he is the bible killer. What i have been reading from Don´s posts. He has been done lots of backround work,becouse he has studied lot of Mafia behaviour. But why? I think that Don has the determination in him that once he gets a job he will work tiresly and do what ever necessary to get the job done. So he has read through old mafia games to learn from their well played manouvers and failures in order to play well his Mafia part. Also i remember from another situations that Don knows his bible. What you think about my accusation Mr Corleone?
Oh jeez. I don't know what to think at this point. My new method is designed to detect behavioral changes and statistical similarities with past mafia behavior by collecting data and tabulating statistics on prior mafia games as well as the current one. The tool also enables me to quickly review all posts made by any given player.
Reenk Roink registered both a behavior change and a similarity to prior mafia behavior. However, this kind of thing could be consistent with detective behavior as well. Even if Mafia IV, I almost fingered him as mafia, before I realised his behavior was more consistent with that of a detective.
Perhaps Reenk should explain why he edited the post from Mafia IV. That is suspicious. However, if Reenk is telling the truth, it helpfully narrows down the list of suspects. Later on I'll try looking at it from both angles to see which is more logically consistent.
Care to explain that, Reenk?Quote:
Reenk edited out the screenshots showing his correspondance with GH from Mafia IV today:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpo...&postcount=511
GUILTY
And no, this is a terrible time to reveal; you don't know that the town is going to go after you for the lynching, and you seem much more worried about that than the mafia killing you.
Crazed Rabbit