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Originally Posted by Pannonian
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Pever's posting of the PMs is accurate. There were two minor ones, he asked me to post whatever of the role PM wasn't red, so I sent it to him, and now post it here,
Everything else is red.Quote:
And now it starts to get weird…
Not a joke, this is your:
We did not know each other at the begining. We were given code. Glenn has been broadcasting his code this whole time. I came late and found it. We're still broadcasting to find our third. I can't say much, but our role gives us better odds of surviving attack.Quote:
The most suspicious thing is that they are first part of a group, and then JimBob claims that they would like to create a group. I don't know about letting the two of them knowing each other AND giving them special doctoring powers. It seems strange. Perhaps only one of them has a special thing. I am also interested as to what these special powers would do, because as far as I know 3 townies together won't fail.
You sure? He's added some strange stuff before. You're not in Seamus's head so you really can't say what he would or would not do.Quote:
-Seamus wouldn't add a 3 person special role with a critical ability. Also, vigilantes don't save lives.
We have a signal. It'll sound like nonsense to everyone else.Quote:
In addition to the points already made, if Glenn and jimbob's PMs are entirely in red, how are they to find the last part of the troika? How is one supposed to establish contact if the means of contact is disallowed? I find the claim hard to believe.
Do we really seem that stupid? If we were lying we'd make something useful up. I realize this seems ridiculous, and it's hard to believe. I just don't have anything else to say, it's the truth.Quote:
The "our entire role pm was in red" claim seems like a very poor attempt at a fake reveal. They are lying.
I can't (the curse of the red lettering).Quote:
Jimbob, in your pm to pevergreen you say that no Luca protected Glenn. Can you tell us then, who did protect Glenn last night? Was it you?
Glenn's having fun while waiting to be lynched. I can tell you you're doing the town no favor. By lynching him you will only help to crown the mafia. If you choose to lynch Glenn, wait for his post mortem to come back. Then lynch me if he is mafia. I will participate with town protection groups in the intervening nights to assure that I will not kill as a mafia member.Quote:
ARE we doing the town a bear service of lynching Glenn? Or could it be Glenn is trying to drown this connection to JimBob?
Answers would be appreciated as there is time enough to change the votes.
Let the axe fall not on the town but on the necks of the mafia. Let the blade rise up to strike them all down with fury. May they not be crowned lords of Fatlington.
Sorry for being such a turn ass - just had an msn conversation.
Remember btw, in two days you'll get your proof that I was really detective... please, draw your conclusions about me after that.
* Lynchees: Sigurd, Andres, Pevergreen. Bad guys.
Glenn is arguable. Very suspicious but might be pro-town.. he'll die now anyway, it's too late.
I think the_stanger is innocent after all.
another edit: let's turn that *ss once again! Glenn is innocent! once again, you'll get your proof of my pro-townness in two days... you can wait the two days. Don't lynch glenn, he is innocent!
I don't find this fragment believable at all. Not Seamus's writing style.Quote:
And now it starts to get weird…
Not a joke, this is your:
Then let's wait for a couple of days then, to see what Drisos comes out as. I've had my suspicions of pevergreen, from his unwieldy group of 13 to his attempted cultivating of me, to a recent PM asking me what he should do now as everyone has turned against him. It's almost as though he's trying to play on past connections to strike up some kind of partnership. Others may have their own views on him, but those are my interactions with him that I've found suspicious.
Glenn has been behaving in a very lively way, but not exactly behaving consistently as we might expect mafiosi, especially new players, to do. IMHO this is more reminiscent of a noob given a townie role, as per Banquo in M4 (5?), and getting carried away with it. Since jimbob is willing to vouch for him, one way of neutralising him may be to lock both of them into protection groups, who can report on whether or not the actions were successfully carried out during the night. There are other lines to be pursued, that don't quite have the same consequence for the town as they claim, so we might as well do that until Drisos' post-mortem comes up and we can decide on whether or not to lynch Sigurd.
I suggest people take their votes off Glenn, and put it on pever instead as the next best candidate, and moreover one who doesn't have qute the same power role as those two claim. Also, any detectives reading this should investigate them both, and report to someone whom they trust.
Unvote: Beefy
Vote: pevergreen
Can someone post the tallies? It's been a while. Also, when tallies are posted, could you put "CapoTally" before them, so they're easier to search for?
ok 4 peplz so far claims to be detective .....
not sure if they are or not, until more info comes into play...
but heck.. if he mafioso can lynch him later, if town that would be stupid, so
Unvote: abstain
Vote: pevergreen
If you got the claims via PM, you can always post the investigation results here and wait for the targets to answer for themselves. If the claims were public, could you list them and link to the posts where they made their claims? The only one I'm aware of is Drisos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charge
all was through pm, no clear 'investigation results' was claimed so not posting any perhaps wrong accusations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pannonian
Also I'm not going to identify even 'false-cops' in thread (to help mafia?)
Waiting for Drisos' official role-revealing too mainly.
If you reveal the false detectives, how would it help the mafia? Are you withholding infomation? Cos you are the MAFIA? :inquisitive:
I agree, I think that Seamus would be putting something more into it, and I am not even sure if he would write anything at all, perhaps preferring to keep it within the confines of the red itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
I am interested in what JimBob means by "broadcasting his signal" - could you expand on this?
A couple of other posts that caught my eye:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=546
Can we get someone to translate this?
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=567
I agree with TruePraetorian here. We still have over 4 hours by my count, plenty of time to even up the vote. What is the current count? But perhaps most crucially of all is The_Stranger's next post:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=568
He gives no reason and this comes the very post after TruePraetorian suggests lynching multiple people. Perhaps TS realises he would be one of the ones whose head is on the line and tries to get someone else down with him. Then again, TS has always been very erratic, so we can't really know.
Glenn is clearly a don, and Jimbob is either the made or the luca of his mafia. Lynch Glenn today and Jimbob tomorrow - if the other mafias don't kill him off. Is the final member GH?
The Stranger seems scummy. But since he's a big of a threat to the town even when he's innocent (ie completely getting duped by Sasaki in Capo I and intentionally sabotaging the town in a different game).
Sigurd seems suspicious. Moros does a bit as well, when he says he doesn't find Glenn or TS suspicious.
Pevergreen makes me wary, but I don't think he deserves a lynch yet.
CR
Just post the results here and let the accusations speak for themselves. With a game of this size, any leads are good. Even false leads are good, for they give us something to chew on. Eg. Generalhankerchief's early reveal in the first Capo gave us clues, both in its randomness and what it didn't say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charge
I think he means that identifying false detectives will also reveal the true detectives to the mafia - the mafia stereotypically then hunt down the real detectives before they get rumbled by them.Quote:
Originally Posted by shlin28
On another note, I'm still yet to hear from GH - anything to say about your previous overtly obsessive/aggressive defence of yourself and Glenn. I must say that it all sounds very scummy and mafia like to me.
23 Glenn(kamikhaan,xehh2,Ichigo,Sigurd,Sasaki,Big King Sanctaphrax,Kagemusha, Sarathos,husar, beefy, elite ferret, glenn Hannibalbarc,pevergreen,Lt. Pinard,Brave Sir Robin,Xiahou,, Joe Monks, Kukri, Count Arach,Crazed Rabbit,Tiberius of the Drake)
6 pevergreen(tincow,LittleGrizzly zorg, sarathos charge, pann stranger)
1 Beefy(shlin)
1 CountArach(GH)
1 norwegian nerd(omanes)
2 sigurd(prole, andres)
6 The Stranger (Craterus, True Praetorian,scottishranger,Rythmic, myrdraal, GH)
1 abstain (norwegian nerd)
1 molonthegreat (Tran)
1 GH (Omanes)
old tally
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=437
abstain kommodus, alexanderptg, jimbob, johnsomething, moros, chimpyang, haudegen
Okay just got through about 200 posts.
From what I can see, Glenn is dead already since so many people just bandwagoned on. I would be more sure that at least a significant portion of those bandwagoned on Glenn is scummy than he is. The Jimbob thing, though does suggest that Glenn is scummy, but who knows, they may be a vigilante/special group.
As for pevergreen, his actions are a bit suspicious for keeping everyone in the dark, but his actions are consistent with what a wise guy might want to do to get established towards the mafia side.
I for now would justVote Abstain
Also, btw, my computer has had an issue yesterday and I will attempt to fix it tonight, but I am currently using a comp that I can't necessarily access often and so I might not be able to participate that much
Tally:
Glenn:(everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody)
Using Google-translate.Quote:
Originally Posted by CountArach
Kommo is director, heeft geen bescherming nodig...
Kommo is director does not need protection ...
Sigurd Fafnesbane is misschien ook een goeie optie. K zou het graag vandaag nog weten
Sigurd Fafnesbane also could be a good option. K would like to know today
I still believe that The Stranger is the one most deserving of a lynch right now. His erratic playing style, his agressive posts and pms lead me to believe that at the very least he does not have the interests of the town at heart. What I don't get is how The Stranger is claiming he can investigate and kill people on the same turn. He already said he was a wise guy, now all of a sudden he is some special role?
pfff you do not know what you are talking about... im the one who is at this point prolly trying the hardest to save the town... and im even putting my life at stake for it.
TS is an irritating little so-so, but those of us who've played with him before have got used to it. He's going to be lynched at some point for being an irritating little so-so, but while there are better targets we might as well look at those others.Quote:
Originally Posted by scottishranger
It might behove TS to remember there are some of us who have specific problems with your playing style, who might yet start a campaign against you. So don't even think about teamkills in the early game unless you want me on your back (Capo 1), and don't play randomly unless you want Sasaki at your throat (Kung Fu Mafia).
I do not know what I am talking about? How actually showing us some evidence that you are not as guilty as all the posts about you have shown eh? And how are you trying to save the town? You have done nothing to help it so far, least of all putting your life at stake.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stranger
i swear i will behave
Vote:Abstain
We'll see were this Glenn issue ends up after the investigation I guess. JimBob's covering is odd (pulling out his neck in that way), but he'll need to stay alive until after the investigation for certain.
Few things I've haven't seen commented much on yet.
The townie group that attacked Glenn? Any ideas about whom and why? My guess on the why is something with someone's red text as townie attacks at this point is going to be bad for the town. Or mafia infiltration.
The inactive mafia? Only 1 or 2 moves, from 5 families. What are the rest doing? Infiltrating protection groups or claiming to be detectives (both for later intel and/or deception)?
Charge, you could post them nameless until some of the "detectives" start to show wrongful data. Even mades claiming to be detectives can be useful in eliminating 4 of the families, but they need to be uncovered after that or they'll destroy the town.
agreeing with Pannonian's feelings about pevergreen, I was suspicious before, but much more so now
vote: pevergreen
keep the tally plz
OMG this game is way over my head. I voted for Glenn because it seemed right at the time. Now I doubt myself more and more. Too many different things happening and ppl accusing this person and that.
We seem to point the figure at anyone that defends themselves or sticks their neck out. What about the people that are first to jump on bringing those people down.
idk:huh2:
idk
idk:huh2:
So confused~:confused:
:drama3:
23 Glenn(kamikhaan,xehh2,Ichigo,Sigurd,Sasaki,Big King Sanctaphrax,Kagemusha, Sarathos,husar, beefy, elite ferret, glenn Hannibalbarc,pevergreen,Lt. Pinard,Brave Sir Robin,Xiahou,, Joe Monks, Kukri, Count Arach,Crazed Rabbit,Tiberius of the Drake)
8 pevergreen(tincow,LittleGrizzly zorg, sarathos, charge, pann, stranger, mak)
1 Beefy(shlin)
1 CountArach(GH)
1 norwegian nerd(omanes)
2 sigurd(prole, andres)
6 The Stranger (Craterus, True Praetorian,scottishranger,Rythmic, myrdraal, GH)
1 abstain (norwegian nerd)
1 molonthegreat (Tran)
1 GH (Omanes)
sorry updated tally - think pever line had miscount before please check
On what grounds? You've got two lines.Quote:
I don't find this fragment believable at all. Not Seamus's writing style.
We have code words we try to work into our posts. Simple as that.Quote:
I am interested in what JimBob means by "broadcasting his signal" - could you expand on this?
There is more. It's all in RED.Quote:
I agree, I think that Seamus would be putting something more into it, and I am not even sure if he would write anything at all, perhaps preferring to keep it within the confines of the red itself.
I think Pannonian has a good plan. Tie Glen and I up in protection groups for the next few nights. That way we won't be able to do anything bad. You can investigate the ever-loving hell out of us. I swear we will come up on the town's side.
unvote: Abstain
Vote: No Lynch
Hmm...code words you say....I would trawl through all of your posts trying to string together what they may be. I assume that is the only broad communication, but then again, more pressing issues of real life call :furious3:
And how on earth is that wasted vote going to help your mate Glenn? Is this another part of your red text, that you must vote in order to get rid of each other? You're willing to speak up for each other, but you're not willing to vote for his nearest rival. Weird.