I am rather unsure how I am to reply to this IC considering it was the OOC that prevented me from doing so?
I realize it's unfair to you, but not to Hans. IC, there isn't anything in the world short of physical impossibility to excuse waiting so long to produce evidence on what is the most important issue to the entire nation.
08-02-2007, 04:35
Northnovas
Re: King of the Romans OOC thread IX
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Well guy's if we get tough on the fighting issue I would have to retire.
I'm not trying to be dramatic but I'm on the road for over half a year.
That means I would basically never be available to fight my battles.
On the flip side I am obviously very active in the game. The idea of using something like a spy, diplomat or other character type is a solution, but I hope you can all agree that this would be like standing on the side line watch the real action take place.
On the flip side some people that are away for a day here or a day there could be using the proxy thing a little too easily.
Maybe we could make up some legislation for it!!! Good god!! More rules. :oops:
I don't want to say I'm a special case but I'm a road warrior for work and this game is a great way to have fun no matter where I am.
I would fight all my battles if I was at home and be more than happy to fight others for them too :beam:
Maybe if the absence is for work or holiday then there is a exemption. It's an honour system of course but that could work.
AG
I think there is a happy medium somewhere. If vacation, work or CPU crash prevents one from playing then I think there would be specific instructions on what to do with the avatar. Sometime auto-calc can work just as fine. You AG are in a unique situation and it has been working fine for you. Look how long it took us to get Austrian avatars yet we were involved.
The proxy works if you know something is coming up and cannot make the commitment then you trust some else to fight the battle and you know the consequences. On the other hand I like the idea mention by econ from another game. If you know you can't be involved because of OOC commitments ( I hate to say real life) then your avatar steps back from the lines and does administration work.
There is balance to keep the momentum going in a game and the involvement of one's avatar without a lot of rules to the game.
08-02-2007, 05:19
OverKnight
Re: King of the Romans OOC thread IX
Once I get home from work I will wrap up my work on 1262, I still have to do buildings, agent movement, taxation review and a final check that I haven't missed anything. We will then continue with 1264 if nothing exciting happens with the Crusaders.
Considering Hans's battle will be past the 48 hour mark when I get home, I will resolve it at my discretion, balancing concern for avatar and strategy.
The thing about the "active" or "inactive" list is I usually don't know until I put out a call for battle.
Barring a clear consensus from the peanut gallery, I will use Chancellor's discretion on the issue in a battle to battle basis.
08-02-2007, 06:45
AussieGiant
Re: King of the Romans OOC thread IX
Hi Northnovas,
Well Arnold would have to essentially step back permanently and any other avatar I take would do the same thing.
There would be brief moments when I'm back and IF, the timing was right I'd be able to fight a few battles with the avatar...of course after so much time sitting around that would be hard to organise and be rather "canned" in my view.
Can you imagine me in a house telling the Duke that I'm OOC back in a week after being away for 5 weeks and he should let me take over an army group, while other battle active players having been working away and proving themselves? I don't think that is fair on the guy's able to control armies in my opinion.
I would not want to be an active member able to fight battles regularly and then have the Duke use OOC reasons to let some other guy who's in a city for the last 10 years in the game suddenly pop in and pound away.
Essentially any avatar I control would sit in a castle or city and rot away.
That's the reality of me being away so much.
If that guideline was enforced Arnold would never have ended up the way he is now and more importantly any avatar I take on would likewise be in the same situation.
Personally I'd get bored of that.
Plus, if there is eventually a shortage of avatar's me taking one could be seen as a waste. Something I would also agree with totally. I would not want some prime avatar being handed to me so it can sit in cities for 80% of its life.
Anyway I'm just thinking out loud and I'm more than happy to listen to what the gallery has to say.
This is not directed at you Northnovas. You just asked a good question.
08-02-2007, 10:53
Ituralde
Re: King of the Romans OOC thread IX
I'm back and it took a while longer to work myself through all of the Threads, you do accumulate stuff. :beam: Just finished with the OOC thread and will continue with the rest. Expect something from the Kaiser soon!
Thanks econ21 for fighting the battle, and I agree that we have been overusing the Proxy thing. Maybe it will be enough right now, to make people aware of the fact and that everyone for himself tries to rethink his position and accepts the occasional auto-resolve. I wouldn't want strict rules for it though. We can all talk, and I'm sure we'll find a solution that is satisfactory for everyone.