I think von Hapsburg would be a conservative and thus pro-Peter.
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I think von Hapsburg would be a conservative and thus pro-Peter.
fine, fine, fine. :D I'm sorry I really didn't want anyone to get worked up about my lack of wanting to play this battle. It is just that I am a bit over massive M2TW battles anyway, and the gold stacks aren't helping :D
Taking the save, have it your way Ramses :P
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I'm guessing a lot of the new palyers and younger characters would be neutral. Which side they go for may depend on how the leadup to the battle goes. If lots of evidence came up that Lothar was really part of some evil organization pulling the strings people might rally against it, but more likely things will be much more ambiguous.
The problem Fritz and Peter face is the fact that it's difficult for them to claim to be good guys, especially since they probably would've been first in line for the Kaiser's throat if he hadn't been their brother...
Which makes it pretty complicated if you're neutral and you've followed the storyline from that time period. Do we actually have evidence of Lothar doing anything else? Right now I'm trying to keep what we know IC very seperate from what I know OOC. Fritz is convinced Lothar was involved in the death of Siegfried, and that's enough for him, but does it sway someone who starts off neutral?
Really, too, it's a problem of confidence, as Peter and Fritz aren't exactly out scouting for allies either. When this first broke I was fully intent on forcing people to pick a side, assuming more would fall on my side than the other, but since then matters haven't shaken out like I was expecting. There are some nobles whose loyalty I feel sure of, but there are just as many who I'm not, and Fritz suspects every Austrian and Bavarian of disloyalty to his brother.
In OOC terms I know that Max and Jan both have brand new players so how deep in some conspiracy could they be, but IC? They're Austrian, and absent any other information that might be enough for Fritz right there.
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Yeah, the tough thing is keeping OOC and IC knowledge separate.
Deciding who Andreas would pick would have been extremely difficult. On one side you have a guy who may have conspired to kill a Kaiser and on the other a Kaiser who's behaved rather erratically and tried to pass some rather disturbing legislation. If the trial had uncovered a lot about Lothar's organization things would be easier but at this point Peter seems more of a bad guy than Lothar.
And now I have to figure out what my new character will do. :dizzy2:
Yeah, Peter is kind of an a-hole, but he's a tyrant, maxed out dread, huge authority, huge command, and no piety. He's super brave and is a good jouster. See how it pans out? Haha.
There's always Ralph Nader. :clown:
So....this "should" get interesting. :balloon2:
Ah, Peter is now "the Tyrant" and Lothar is now "the Honorable." I love the irony.
And I had to choose this time to antagonize none else but the Grand Master of the Illuminati...:wall: :wall: :wall:
Indeed my young Knight...your timing has been unfortunate to say the least.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tristan de Castelreng
However there is always time to reconsider...:idea2:
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Originally Posted by TinCow
And honestly, the game does seem to have a weird sense of intelligence sometimes. It's as if this little peace of code "knows" it's being used for something a little more than the normal run of the mill game. :inquisitive:
Then I'll be your "Hugo" Skywalker, Emperor "Arnold" Palpatine :duel:Quote:
Originally Posted by AussieGiant
Actually, Peter is (literally) the Emperor. Which makes Fritz Vader. I guess you can be HugoFett.
I guess I'll be Grand Moff Tarkin. Wrinkly, scarred, evil, arrogant, and, err, doomed?
Speaking of pop culture references, that story from earlier desperately needed Black Sabbath's 'War Pigs' playing in the background, although the version I hear in my head is the Faith No More cover. :laugh4:
edit: Simul-post! 'You don't know the power of the Dark Side!'
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I would actually set the entire first half of KotR to "War Pigs," and I think I said as much somewhere. This grand finale would be good too.
I know I've written some stories in KotR, particularly during the Cataclysm period, to specific music. Whenever I reread the Stories thread I always put that particular song in the background. :laugh4:
I can't say I've had music in mind when I've been doing any of this. But now you lot have mentioned it I'll start to see if things work.
As for the Star Wars references, then I guess I'm Mace Windu or something, I just can't see me being Yoda.
The Planets, Op. 32: I. Mars, the Bringer of War - Gustav Holt
I'm personally more of a Jupiter fan. Makes me want to conquer the world and toast the Queen.
It's criminal to have to chose between Kaiser Peter and a republic.
How so?
All credit for the Republic idea should go to OverKnight. He proposed it first and it was just too good to ignore. There's something kind of nice about wrapping the end-story of KOTR to the beginning of WOTS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignoramus
Are we really faced with such a decision? I haven't noticed much in the way of democratic tendencies among our secret organization until now, but then I did come in during the Cataclysm, and only read all the links in the history thread for only 50 years back. :book:
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Originally Posted by Ignoramus
Well, I'm glad you didn't notice them, because that would mean the secret organization wasn't so secret. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zim
I did notice the organization, it just seemed more evil than republican. :beam:
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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
No, it's all very democratic and egalatarian. I'm not going to go into detail about how we decide things but there is always a lot of discussion involved. I don't think there's ever been a situation where's there's been a big disagreement, which is pretty amazing considering it's KotR.
The Illuminati 'Charter' was one of the first things that we established. It's been equality from the start for us. Perhaps not for our opponents, but at least within the group. You'll see it all in a couple weeks, when we're either victorious or dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zim
And here was I thinking that TinCow had invented the Illuminati to roleplay Lothar's discussions with Ulrich.
I can just imagine Lothar in a room surrounded by a bunch of manniquins in robes making grand announcements to his "Brothers".
For some reason I suddenly feel like singing the "La Marseillaise".
Liberté, égalité, fraternité!
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