Capo di Tutti Capi IV [Concluded]

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Really?

What part of potential did you not understand.

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Originally Posted by Erebus

Also I'm wholly opposed to outing anyone in any protection group.

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Ding.

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Originally Posted by Sprig

As you wish.

Vote: ACIN

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No spamming.

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Originally Posted by Erebus

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Really?

What part of potential did you not understand.

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I really don't care about potential doctors. These potential doctors could be mafia scum fooling people. All it took for me to be put into a group was asking ATPG. All a mafioso had to do was ask ATPG "oh hey, I want to be a doctor. what can I do?" and ATPG would have shoved him onto someone.

Like so:

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

This is a mass-PM message sent to participants in N1 action groups I helped create.



95+% of you seemed to have sent in night actions as requested;

Most of the protection groups are reliable and the vigilantes mostly did their job and the exception is accounted for.

Some of you arrived too late in the night to be placed in powerful or influential groups;

If you wish to be on the ground floor of the major, big, and proven successful teams, contact me now rather than waiting until night phase.

I will place you into protection or vigilante groups, or just which one you prefer, and will also listen to your considerations as to who to protect or vigilante kill, and propose it to the group you will be working for.

get in on the ground floor while there are still good seats.

If you want to be part of a doctor-making vig group, I need volunteers, those don't get credit towards being wiseguys.

If you want to be part of a wiseguy/rogue-making group, first come first served.

If you want to be part of the doctor-creation squad, space is limited, so is time. Contact me ASAP. I may have room for two of those tonight.

The onus is on you to get yourself a good seat. If you arrive too late, I'd be more than happy to direct you to other organizers of groups, or place you in a group which I feel is less reliable but will still function.

12 hours before night deadline, all bets are off; you have to take what you can get.

Decide on your path, and I will help take you there.

This message has been BCC'ed to protect your identities. :book: If you wish to drop from groups I assemble, please send me a PM that says "unsubscribe" or "I'm out".

Thank you.

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Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name

Why would any reasonable townie want to restrict info this stage of the game?

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Good question… maaaaybe and answer that I see coming a mile off (one of those standard answers) is the typical 'I'm afraid it'll fall into the wrong hands!'. Which doesn't make that sense if you're telling people you have no proof of innocence about in private.

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Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name

I really don't care about potential doctors. These potential doctors could be mafia scum fooling people. All it took for me to be put into a group was asking ATPG. All a mafioso had to do was ask ATPG "oh hey, I want to be a doctor. what can I do?" and ATPG would have shoved him onto someone.

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By what right do you have to sort this out. If those two guys figure out who's bailing on them, they can come forward and give us a name. But it's Night 1, night 1 is known to be riff with badly written orders and miscommunications. There's no good reason right now to out the protection group on Earthling.

Mafia Luca's are 1 man, unless the rules have changed to force the mafia to protect don with 2 people, this discussion seems useless.

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Originally Posted by El Barto

What? Setting attack and vig groups on the same?

I'd still like to know who's the 'master'mind that's been having people have at each other last night.

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yes and its atpg...

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Originally Posted by Erebus

By what right do you have to sort this out. If those two guys figure out who's bailing on them, they can come forward and give us a name. But it's Night 1, night 1 is known to be riff with badly written orders and miscommunications. There's no good reason right now to out the protection group on Earthling.

Mafia Luca's are 1 man, unless the rules have changed to force the mafia to protect don with 2 people, this discussion seems useless.

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Good reason: Put the pressure on them so we can find out why they protected him and who told them to protect him.

You: Redirecting the conversation by asking me a question that in no way responds to what I have been saying.

@The Stranger: How silly. Oh well.

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Originally Posted by El Barto

How silly. Oh well.

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Not really, it's what won him the last game.

If everybody is part of a conflicting attack/defend group, the mafia can't kill. It's a good strategy.

what is so silly about it?

I'm not entirely sure about anything right now but...

Earthling

Seems legit.

Also FoS: ATPG and ACIN

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Originally Posted by Chaotix

Not really, it's what won him the last game.

If everybody is part of a conflicting attack/defend group, the mafia can't kill. It's a good strategy.

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-_- it was my idea but a serial killer took me out... and last game was won by scottish ranger right? or was that cdtc 2...

After careful consideration of the various accusations flying around, I'm going to

vote: Earthling

I wished I lived in the Golden Age.
Giving it up on the Broadway Stage.
Hang with the rats and smoke cigars.
Have a break with Frank and count the stars.

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Originally Posted by GamezRule

I'm not entirely sure about anything right now but...

Earthling

Seems legit.

Also FoS: ATPG and ACIN

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GamezRule, you gotta put a Vote: in front of that if you want it to be "legit".

The Stranger, scottish was Capo II, but I do vaguely recall you having something to do with the attack/defend groups in Capo III.

Vote: Earthling

He seems the better choice to be lynched, out of him and ACIN.

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Originally Posted by The Stranger

-_- it was my idea but a serial killer took me out... and last game was won by scottish ranger right? or was that cdtc 2...

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Muahaha.

Maybe I'm being really dense, but what is the case on Earthing apart from him being a Red?

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Originally Posted by shlin28

Maybe I'm being really dense, but what is the case on Earthing apart from him being a Red?

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It's day one and it really doesn't matter? No one has a real case yet, most people who want one are just watching responses.

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Originally Posted by shlin28

Maybe I'm being really dense, but what is the case on Earthing apart from him being a Red?

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He was the lynch choice even before that. Start back at the beginning of the day and you can see.

Anyway, he says he's not a red. Do you think he's a red? Is he lying then?

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Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name

Doctors can protect someone by themselves. They don't need two people.

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That is the whole point of ATPG's plan, to get some people attacked and then have those people protected so the wiseguy in the group would eventually become a doctor and then once a doctor become a surgeon. It is a pretty simple plan, that seems to be falling apart at the seems with the in fighting and jealousy. This is tailor made for the various mafia groups and potential wiseguy groups to cause mass chaos.

Finally caught up. Since I just finished college (International Relations, baby!) and am already working, my participation will probably be weaker than usual (Which is nothing great in the first place.)

Two comments: The wobbly comment is very well caught by ATPG. How the hell did you know about that in the first place?

Also, obvious ATPG protection is obvious. As I said, it was obvious. If anyone was gonna get protection from turn 1, it's him. Pro-tip: Leave ATPG for when his networks start crumbling down. Whoever attacked him knowingly wasted their turns.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Then tell me what my plans are, great swami.

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If you can kill, kill.
If you cannot kill, protect yourself.
If you cannot protect yourself, trick others.
If you cannot trick others, fake reveal
If you cannot fake reveal, die.


Vote: Earthling

Taking into account the strangeness of the fact that ATPG knew this, if he turns out not being a communist, then this will later be used against ATPG

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Originally Posted by hero di classico

That is the whole point of ATPG's plan, to get some people attacked and then have those people protected so the wiseguy in the group would eventually become a doctor and then once a doctor become a surgeon. It is a pretty simple plan, that seems to be falling apart at the seems with the in fighting and jealousy. This is tailor made for the various mafia groups and potential wiseguy groups to cause mass chaos.

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tragedy of history... i feel like Tesla

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

He was the lynch choice even before that. Start back at the beginning of the day and you can see.

Anyway, he says he's not a red. Do you think he's a red? Is he lying then?

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I just thought of an awesome song request for the Pizza Show! :D

vote: earthling
Apparently we have a communist in our midst? I would just like to point out that if I was elected director we wouldn't be dealing with the Red Menace in Fatlington.

On another note, I find it impossible to hear any sort of discussion over the cacophony of voices. If you wish to discuss lynch choices, join me in my private library (PM me). Drinks are in the globe.

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Originally Posted by shlin28

If I have two votes, I would vote for ACIN and Earthling in an instant. The usage of the word 'Wobbly' is obvious lynch-worthy, but I couldn't care less if he is a communist. On the other hand ACIN's normaly fun behaviour in this game would not be helpful at all - more backstabbing/betrayals is definitely bad for the town, better to off a confirmed random-er earlier than later.

Vote: ACIN

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This post definitely wins the Scummiest-award. Vote: shlin28

No, you guys are all really suggesting the wrong follow ups.

First, lynching one person a day is guaranteed to waste a ton of time and kill very few mafia, if you have to kill one townie for each one mafia to be lynched the next day. Even if you are completely blind to any claims and don't care about anything besides basic townie instinct, you should put a few of us in a tie and lynch us all today.

Second, you're not looking at the right people to be lynched when I turn out town, if you do lynch me today after all.

Chaotix is a start for seriously trying to start his own mafia group. Out of the false dichotomy candidates you're looking at though:

The town will obviously turn on pizza for coordination that is generally helping the mafia and getting people kills on the way towards becoming mafia. That happens on its own eventually, no need to make it an issue out of my lynch, but townies who already wanted pizza dead and want to help the town in general would do well to not lynch me, distant third candidate votes as always don't matter.

Likewise ACIN is his own issue and nothing about his or my identity really confirms anything about the other that people are questioning here. He can be examined and rightly lynched on his own for faking a mafia contact that doesn't exist or just trying to be recruited into the mafia.

What I would request, is that if you lynch me today and he's not already dead, you guys kill Sasaki immediately after you get the reveal I'm a townie. He is by far the scummiest one pushing the bandwagon, far too much effort into this lynch for no reason he's given against me other than that I acted like a townie would act. It's quite possible he knows he is purposefully disrupting townie groups and efforts.

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Originally Posted by Earthling

First, lynching one person a day is guaranteed to waste a ton of time and kill very few mafia, if you have to kill one townie for each one mafia to be lynched the next day. Even if you are completely blind to any claims and don't care about anything besides basic townie instinct, you should put a few of us in a tie and lynch us all today.

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Why don't we just have 99% of the entire group in a tie with one vote on each person. The only person to not have a vote statistically will be a townie. Then the game can end in a day and we can miss the point of having fun with the game.