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Yeah, I think the Sweboz must be overdosing on those mushrooms. At least they'll hit Epeiros and the Maks if they keep going rather than ballooning into something utterly gigantic that would spew stacks at me if/when I ever work my way into Hellas. The thing that makes it weirder is that they appear to have been expanding logically earlier....Quote:
Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou
I have no screenshots, but as others have done I will communicate by words what has happened in my Casse campaign for each faction in North-Western Europe (briefly).
246 BCE
Casse: Allied with Sweboz, Aedui, Lusotann and Epeiros, I am entering in diplomatic wars against the Arverni and Roman Republic in preparation for landing.
By 250 BCE I had gained control of all the Isles, and was receiving 10k per turn, paying up to 1200 per turn to my 'foreign interests'.
I am now preparing for an assault on the continent.
Sweboz: Had very shaky beginnings, capturing one Cheruscii settlement to the north, then lying dormant until 260 BCE, when in a Blitzkrieg (Pun??) campaign they conquered all territories up to the rhine, and down to Luvocae(sp). They have 4 full stack armies and are moving straight for Illyricum.
At war with no one.
Getai: Dormant, indebt, but defending their Capital with the fervour of fanatics.
Aedui & Arverni: After losing many battles to the Arverni, the Aedui pushed through their rival's territories towards Arretium.
After breaking the truce with Rome, the Republic formed an alliance with the Arverni and started very obviously (And never before seen) supplying them.
I intervened and gave the Aedui a large sum per turn and they put this to great effect, conquering all Gaul except the Arverni homelands and the province of the Armoricae.
After some diplomatic twisting by the Casse, the Aedui founded an alliance with Epeiros, and sometime after began fighting furiously with the SPQR.
When no territories of Rome or the Arverni were conquered, the Aedui quite suddenly diverted their forces across the Pyrenees into the Iberian Eleutheroi (recently).
The Arverni, though greatly in debt, have large garrisons in each province and have held on tremendously well. Recently, when the Aedui began to flourish in all directions without failure, I renounced my alliance and began to support the Arverni in their final hours.
Romani: The Romans have been checked in all directions, stalemated with the Aedui, Epirotes and Carthage (Only in Sardinia and Corsica- Sicily has been ignored by all so far, by Rome because they only just obtained Rhegion).
They put much effort into supporting the Arverni, and in a first experience for me, sent armies far ahead of their own province (Quite historically!) to fight on the Aedui homelands.
They are hard pressed on all fronts, recently managing to push Epeiros out of Taras and Rhegion due to that faction's insubordination to their Britannic overlords.
After many brutal fights with the Aedui they took Segesta, then Massilia and are moving into Aquitania very hastily, I think they are retreating for their aid in the Sequani province. (It was like a classical telling of the Vietnam War!!).
They have not attacked Sicily, yet this was due to the loss of Bruttium.
They have taken Corsica and Sardinia.
Allied also with Makedonia.
Carthage will not be mentioned as they are dormant, except for furious overkills on Sardinia against Rome.
Anyway, those were some things I wished to mention, as the wars in Gaul, as stated, were very much like the Vietnam War.
Just imagine the Casse as China, the Aedui as North Vietnam, Arverni South and the SPQR, America and it's allies.
It is worth mentioning also that the Sauromatae, having taken 75% of the Steppe, took almost all of their forces (Approx. 4 full stacks) into the territories of the Hayasdan, and are now skirmishing with the Seleukids.
Lastly, the Ptolemaic dynasty had made a protectorate of Arche Seleukia's remaining 7 provinces, and A.S. remained dormant for 5 turns before allying with Pontus, Hayasdan, and Baktria, and striking back at the Ptolemaioi!
The rest is rather the average outcome of nations.
Im playing as Casse at 248 BC with out BI.exe
I quickly united Britain and Ireland and grabbed the two Belgea region. After 5 year or so of cold war with Sweboz I decided to be allies with them again. War in Gaul are chaotic. After me helping out the Arverni, Aedui are slowly getting surrounded by both Arverni and Romans.
Romans started off well uniting all Italy and Sicily. Then they decided to go for Gaul. Carthage are gone in Spain and Lussos decided to declare war on Arvernis. So Gaul is pretty messy right now. My Casse city of Belgea occasionally get attacked by Aedui but beaten it back every single time. They decided to stop seeing as I cant be bothered to attack their land.
In the east KH has united All Greece, 1 Makedonian province in Dacia and 1 Epeirote city and one Epeiros city in Ilyria.
Dont know whats happening in the east. My keyboard doesnt let me cheat...
So far its a very nice campeign :yes:
heres an update on my earlier campaign and some observations from me
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subA. if you want a challenge fight only the east and leave europe for the computer; someone seems to always take over and when they do they are rich mofos.
A. the Lusotanna have had at least 1.5 full stacks of units on the very southwest coast near gibraltor for almost 30 years now; my question is do they have any boat building facilities or are they just hanging out guarding their coast? There is also a full stack of elite carthiginian troops moving out of carthage's city in iberia towards a large gathering of lusotanna in central iberia; this will be the defining moment for lusotanna and maybe me(as without lusotanna hanging on and drawing carthage's attention east i fear i will not have the finances to fight everywhere and i may have to fall back.) They also continue to deny me an alliance; if i can ever get my money up i am going to start financing their war against carthage.
B. this is more of a statement than anything else DONT PLAY VH Strategy map as the world has been at war with me for about 10 years now and it is very sad~:mecry: /tiring:sweatdrop: to have everyone hate you except for my good ol Baktrians who appear to be getting beaten on at the moment in the east(though saka remains their protectorate since somewhere in the 230s). i made an incursion into the nile delta region and even pushed into memphis for 1 year before large armies from AS appeared in anatolia and large armies(of arabic nobles) appeared from Ptol. so ive now pulled back to alexandria and garrisoned it as reinforcements will be a ways off.
C. The Casse have apparently been telling stories about hte evil men in Southern Ireland as they have been massing troops there for at least 10-20 years. They now have 2.3 stacks and Southern Ireland has a whopping total of 2 units of spearmen guarding it...
D. I've learned that i am a peacemaker; example: the AS and Ptol. who are normally intense rivals have put aside their hate and allied with each other because of me(of course they want to kill me but :wall:
The Carthaginians and Epirotes continue to fight me for illyria and dacian land; I have had to fight 2 almost full stacks of carthaginian elite units, one of which contained units with ave exp of 3.4; it seems the nations of the world do fight, but it is only to get at me and as soon as they can both get at me they declare a ceasefire and sometimes an alliance lol. Western Asia Minor, Tarsos, and almost all of makedonian homeland, and all of KH land has the capabilities to produce but seeing as i am at war with almost everyone now my finances are suffering from lack of trade so i am constrained to about 18k-22k a turn; and unfortunately playing on VH battle mode makes it so hellenic native phalanx can keep up with 3 exp theuroperoi(sp?) so im forced to make armies of mostly elite units just to win battles and this can be expensive. anyways im droning on now; cyall later
*edited for spelling*
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228BC, same campaign. The Ptolies, predictably didn't keep the peace. I have relieved them of Antiocheia, but am afraid to advance further because I had a major drought in terms of family members and am now loaded with old guys and a bunch of kids yet to come of age, so I'm afraid to risk them or expand too much further in fear one of them will kick the bucket and leave me in a bad situation. Not too much has changed, otherwise. Some Roman and Sweboz progression, as well as Armenian progress against the Sauromatae, which will hopefully keep them entertained enough to leave me alone.
Edit: Silly me! The Casse finally got moving, which is good to see. I wish I had taken a shot earlier to see how long the Aedui have had Patavium: if they (somehow) ended up taking it early on, it would explain Roman expansion. The Koinon at one point attacked Mytilene(they marched right through my lands to do it too! had me going for a few turns there...) but they were unsuccessful. Ptolemaic advance in the east continues, but seems to have slowed. I am at peace with the Seleukids now, and they (luckily for me) control Cyprus, netting me some nice trade income. I finally have a military port now as well, so I think I shall launch a navy and attempt to wrest control of the seas from the Ptolemies to protect the southern Anatolian coast and keep my ports open for trade...
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Pahalva, 174 BC
Fun times.
AS I'm actually a couple turns ahead of this pic, let me give you the current rundown:
Rome and Luso are at peace as both focus on Carthage. As can be seen, Rome is slowly making advances against the Carthies.
Casse finally united the Isles and the new proto-UK has several stacks sitting by London just waiting for a ship to take them over, though it seems the AI isn't building any. I'm contmplating spawning a few ships for the Casse, if that is possible, to try and "encourage" them to go to the mainland.
The mainland Celts are done for, all that is keeping them around is their triple gold chevron FM. Between the Sweboz and the Romans they just wilted.
Speaking of the Sweboz, they are on the move, getting closer to uniting the tribes. However, war between the Getai and Sweboz has erupted, as well as between Sweboz and the Romani, so now we get to see the mettle of the Sweboz Confederacy.
The Romans are bulging both east and west, approaching the minimum requirements for the Marian Reforms. Hopefully they will have a general that triggers it, since I think that would be all sorts of awesome for the AI to make it to the Marians.
Carthage is still very much alive and kicking. Though this pic does not show it, I bought a general of theirs and proceeded to help the Ptolemaioi liberate their provinces, with the coup being the peace settlement between me and Carthage where I got Paraitonion, Ammonion, and Augilla and returned them to their rightful owners. Now the Carthies can fight a revitalized Ptolemaic dynasty as I managed to get rid of enough uber-experienced Carthie FMs to hopefully allow the Ptolies to fight on roughly equal terms with the Carthies, as I hopefully got rid of enough stacks of elites to halt them, plus Carthage's finances are badly strained.
The Hai are poor and underdeveloped, little more than "kings" in exile. They no longer pose a threat to me, though they have started going after the last of the Eleutheroi and there are rumblings on the long Hai/Getic border so things might get interesting soon.
The Maks are being pushed hard by the AS, who are being pushed hard by me. Since I want to see the Maks move back into Greece I'm doing my best to keep them going, though a fully united Hellas is making it hard for the Maks to make any moves past Pella.
The KH are in decline. After going on a rampage they have been reduced to little more than Greece, though it is a fully-developed Greece. If they go down it won't be quick or easy.
The Saba made the error of declaring war on me and are paying the proce. While I don't intend on occupying all their cities I do intend on taking a select few and razing the rest to the ground. The federation will be crushed.
BI-related goodness: The Balaeric Isles are Roman; Karali is under constan assault by Rome; Rome, Carthage, KH, Maks, and AS all have competitive navies, with the Ptolies starting to rebuild; Rhodes has been taken by the AS and as can be seen, 3 different factions have landed on Crete to surround the KH.
Important Diplomacy info:
My allies: Rome, Getai, Ptolies
Rome and Getai allied
AS, Hai, Carthage all allied
Sweboz, Maks, Ptolies allied
Wow its good to see Getai doing soo well!
But its a shame that none of the Celts are doing well. GO CASSE!:smash:
MadMatG, I'm in awe of Carthage in your campaign. They seem really very successful! Where did the Romans go? Do you use one of the user made money scripts?
@ White Knight
apparently the romans were waging a bloody war with the Aedui and Epiros(in illyria and italy) They finally secured southern italy after Epi pushed all the way to Capua and Arpi. As they were doing this Carthage secured Sicily and when teh romans moved all troops north to Aedui and illyria the carthaginians came in with a bang and took all of italy, look at i think page 20 or somewhere around there for my old maps showing the death of rome
Update on my campaign. Year 222 re-posted for context, along with 212 showing recent events.
Rome, 222
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Rome, 212
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This was a very interesting decade! As you can see, my financial aid to Pontus (~50-100 kmnai) has unleashed a monster. I've started donating to AS now to try to keep the east busy - I'd no more like to face uber-Bactria or uber-Pontus than I wanted to face the Gray Death.
My "ally" KH decided to attack me for no damn reason, so :smash: . Seriously, worst sneak attack ever - the only thing they managed to do in the first year after starting the war was blockade Crete for a couple of turns. Epirus was (a) a KH protectorate, (b) in the way, and (c) small, so I ate them en route to Greece. Euboia is under siege, but I have no further plans to fight the KH. Ditto for Meroe and the Ptolemies. Hopefully I can just stomp the occasional army visiting Macedonia and the Nile Delta and start breezing through some years here - I'd really like to see the Marian reforms before satisfying my victory conditions... I've tried the force diplomacy mod on the Ptolemies, which bought me a whole two turns of peace. The income from trading with me those six months may have paid for a unit of Hetairoi - the first cavalry I've seen the Ptolemies build (KH, ironically, builds quite a lot of cav by AI standards).
The Gallic civil war is still ongoing. Aedui continue to get generous subsidies from Rome, and they've drawn in the Sweboz on their side. Bibracte fell to Arverni near the beginning of the decade, and just fell to the Sweboz.
Lots of revolts out in the east, a few of them incited by Roman spies. :beam: Sadly Bactria took the coastal Indian city with a large force and should be able to keep it. The other two Indian cities won't quite rebel. The Armenian move into Phraaspa was Roman-incited; before the total Seleucid collapse my spy flipped Phraaspa from AS to the Sarmatians, and you can see what Armenia has been doing to them lately. It's unclear how stable the lines are in the AS wars. Just last turn Arbela was back in AS hands, I'm guessing through bribery. Pontus took it back either through bribes or a spy opening the gates, I guess. The far eastern AS enclave has held out well, mostly through mercenaries and a 9-star 68 year old general from what I can see. Palmyra must have just revolted to Saba, I expect it to revert back to Ptolemy (revolt or conquest) very soon. The same has happened to Bostra as well. On a related point, both KH and Pontus have owned Galatia this decade, but the AI seems incapable of holding that province.
Others have noted that the recommended VH difficulty is not optimal because the AI constantly attacks the player; I completely agree with that assessment. As I've noted above, force diplomacy doesn't help, and the main challenge to the campaign is how to construct situations where time can pass with as little serious fighting as possible. So far, Arverni, Sweboz, and Getai have failed to attack despite sharing borders with me. The first two are busy fighting each other (Arverni is also allied to me, but KH shows how much that means to the AI), and Getai is a KH protectorate which may limit what the AI allows itself to do.
Has anyone noticed that the romans generally expand North and don't even break the alliance with Carthage,or get Pwned in a punic war ~:confused:
will it be terribly annoying to people if i post my campaign pics every 10 years? i figure thats a good time between
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Originally Posted by madmatg
I like the 10 year progression pics, or even earlier inbetween, but only during the late game, it's really rare to see a different kind of campaign in 262 or 242.
here we are at 184
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Ive started funding the lusotanians(probly about 20k over 3 years total) and they are fighting back in the north but have lost the south to Carth, Sarmatia has almost destroyed the Hai's and Baktria is backed up to India, i've also started an offensive to take Italia from the Carth's. as you can see there are a good number of rebellions going on in Carth and Ptol. also the Casse still have not moved in on Southern Ireland.
Mak campaign, BI exe, VH/M, Balanced mod, general cam only
The world at 230 BCE
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Seleukids - My arch enemy, throwing stacks at me since i crossed the bosporus. Collapsing in the east and south (baktria, pahlava and saba attacked them a couple of turns ago) and pretty much broke now.
Epeirus - got kicked out of greece 265 BCE. Then Phyrrus even managed to conquer Rome but they lost some decisive battles on sicily and all of their settlements are under siege now.
Casse - They´re rich ... nuff said ~D
Sweboz - At war with everybody and ...winning.
Lusotannan - laying siege to the last punic settlement in iberia atm.
Ptolemies - the gray death wiped the floor with them until the "coalition of the willing" ( me, baktria, pahlava and saba ~D) decided to help them a bit.
Hayasdan - a very nice suprise! very strong, a good neighbour and ally...and soon at war with the sweboz :inquisitive:
Rome - gah...Aedui nearly killed them, they came back...Quart Hadasht nearly killed them, they came back...Epirotes nearly killed them, they came back... now its my turn.
Quart Hadasht - happily shipping stacks to sicily and italy.
Saka - baktrian protectorate since ~270
Sauromatae - at war with pahlava and hayasdan
Pahlava - baktrian protectorate since ~260. Have some very nice stacks wandering around.
Baktria - a sleeping giant. Rich bastards with 5 or 6 full stacks from hell, eating the seleukids alive in the east now.
Aedui - keeping Rome busy since 270, but the arrival of the sweboz seems to be a bit too much for them.
Averni - Roman protectorate ... and at war with the
Seleukids ^^
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my typical mak army
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These poor chaps landed near Alexandria, tried to take it and obviously failed. But their leader certainly read his Xenophon and now they marching back to Iberia. Might take a while though.
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The balanced script is working very well, no faction seems to have unlimited funds. Great job, redmeth :)
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And thats why i love the BI.exe. QH and Rome are in an eternal struggle for the Balears, spiced up by some carthague full stacks in italy every 4 or 5 years.
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Hah! That sounds like an awesome trailer for an EB movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bavarian Barbarian
That campaign is crazy awesome there too buddy. Everything is very interesting.
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Saka - baktrian protectorate since ~270
I love your army makeup too by the way. How many stacks you got in service? Are your own funds pretty unlimited or do you have to worry about costs? And it's great to hear about cool AI armies, and the fact that 5-6 big armies constitutes a large power instead of being the norm or less. Really illustrates how well that balance mod works, great job to the makers!
Oh and Carthage in the Middle East? Priceless!
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What he said.Quote:
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For comparison, here´s a pic of an old campaign of mine ("vanilla" 0.81) , Mak, same diff, around 225 BCE.
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Much more balanced faction progression -> better gaming experience. Cant wait to see what EB 1.0 has to offer in this regard.
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Originally Posted by Wonderland
3 like the one I posted above, 3 half stacks with mercs and substitution units, 1 all elite stack (2 hyps, 1 pheras, 2 het plus most promising young general) in Mak homeland to fight "insurgencies" and gain some chevrons. Elite units are not attached to a fighting stack unless they have at least one or two silver chevrons, the 2 hypaspistai and hetairoi you see are an exception, i lost my more experienced ones in a crushing defeat against two seleucid full stacks (uuuuuh, i suck at playing with gen cam).
I make ~15.000 mnai/turn, upgrading economy as priority. But, as it seems, i have to build a navy now, the gray SoBs are blockading my ports and that puts a serious dent in my trading income.
Here's my Roman Campain, with very gopod AI balance (I helped)...
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That all sounds great BB, I like your house rules. The navy ought to force you to disband a few armies being the economic vacuum it is. Which is good, you'll have a tougher time on the ground. And it's awesome that you play on general cam, making things difficult and interesting so not every battle is an easy win, or a win at all. Keep us updated!
I just started a Lusotana campaign myself, probably the stupidest thing to do with 1.0 right around the corner. But I couldn't take it anymore, I'd been away from EB for so long and now I got all pumped up with these reports and AAR's, and all the awesome mini-mods. So I combined the formations, AI balance and booty after victory ones and got myself a campaign going. Fun stuff, 1o years in.
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I'm approaching or am at my end-game for my Pahlava campaign. I dunno if I'm missing anything but unless I've misread somewhere I SHOULD have all my territories I need, plus the AS are dead for good measure. I just haven't gotten a Victory screen yet. :embarassed:
To eliminate the AS I had to actually ship an army to Rhodes and wipe them out, and then I gave that to the Maks. I bought Gelonus from the Getai so I didn't need to break that alliance and I traded around territories and money with the Maks. I am so freakin' profitable it isn't even funny, something on the order of 100k per turn. I give Mnai as candy.
In any case, it should hopefully keep the Maks and Getai funded so they can continue to resist the KHm while Rome is absolutely pounding the Sweboz, to which I go "Huzzah!".
After razing, pillaging, and looting all of Arabia I forced the Saba into a Protectorship, as they couldn't threaten me and I held all the cards.
The KH as you can see is attempting a comeback by creeping up the Pontus Euxine's coast, though the Getai and Maks are pressing them hard. The war between KH and Rome has decreased to desultory raids as both focus on more immediate threats.
Carthage continued to pound on Ptolemies but they are staging a minor comeback via rebellion and some lucky battle results that have worn down the elites of Carthage occupying Egypt.
Lusotann are hanging around but beginning to get beaten up by Romans.
Hai are sulking in nomadic exile. If they're lucky they'll go and take the Eleutheroi next to them and hold it.
This campaign has easily been the most fun I've had in a comp game in a loooong time.
When you gonna fight those spartans?:smash:
About the time when they get uppity and decide to try and go Alexander on me. At which point it will be time to witness the full might of the Empire.:whip:
NOOOOO!!! And all I wanted to do was get a Victory Screen. Time to start anew with 1.0 now....