Btw, since it took me far longer than it should have to get all those quotes, here's a reference:
The OP
Night One Results
Night Two Results
Ichigo's reveal
Night Three Results
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Btw, since it took me far longer than it should have to get all those quotes, here's a reference:
The OP
Night One Results
Night Two Results
Ichigo's reveal
Night Three Results
that's an interesting question as Ichigo was here and postingQuote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...0&postcount=21
at the time the bandwagon was at full height and alternatives being discussed, and about an hour before end of voting.
sure this says something about one of you but not sure which yet
That's a lot to chew on. Sigurd could be telling the truth, and I am inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt, for now at least.
I am still slightly sceptical of Ichigo, maybe an investigative report by the detective sometime would eleviate the remaining reservations I have about him.
I'm undecided about Husar, further evidence or info really would swing my opinion.
I'm still suspicious of Mak.
Omanes, he either pulled of spectacular ploy, or he's sincere.
Sasaki and a few others seem their usual selves.
Edit: I'll wait to see how the night plays out before pressing further judgement.
I had already voiced my suspicions. It would have been extremely hard convince people to unvote Sigurd and I probably couldn't have done it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Makanyane
Is that meant to imply that you are reasonably sure Sigurd is innocent? If you are you could at least have said so. :wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
Saying I started a bandwagon to get Sigurd lynched is ridiculous, I was quite surprised about the number of people willing to jump on it, I actually expected my vote to stay the only one. I explained my reasoning and even said it was weak and only based on his absence, noone jumped on my votes before when I was quite a bit more sure about who to vote for, I also guessed that he could be busy and all of a sudden I'm the evil mafia guy who made a big show to get thedetectivesome role we don't know of/Sigurd made up/Ichigo claimed lynched, yeah, sure. :dizzy2:
I still don't see why you didn't post a role PM, Sigurd, copying one takes less time than writing as many lines than you did and the only thing that would stop you from doing it would be that you have a "wrong" one. I remember in Capo 2 you made a really convincing claim to be the hitman, a role that wasn't outlined in the opening post and didn't exist anyway because you were actually a don. I'm not easily going to believe your claim, especially now that you seem to say you weren't even the detective. I guess if you make enough secret hints at being a vigilante or whatever people will actually believe you so you can protect your mafia buddy. :wall:
Well, that's how I see it, being pro-town it would've been easy to throw a PM into your posts but all we get are a few hints in Sigurd's "guess my role quiz" or in other words "use your imagination to fool yourself into believing Sigurd was innocent" quiz, Ichigo's attempts was quite a bit more straightforward and also quite a bit more believable.
:dizzy2: <---- me
Alright, let's try to get a handle on this.
Who is Sigurd.
Townie: Perhaps but why claim a role on your deathbed? Why take another townie down with you?
Juliette: No, Ichigo is Juliette.
Prostitute: No, because Ichigo would have tried to save him since he knows her identity.
Juliette's brother: I don't think her brother has investigative powers. Plus Sigurd and Ichigo have been talking in private. If Sigurd was Juliette's brother, that would be against the rules according to Ichigo's reveal.
Detective: Why didn't he just do a full reveal like Ichigo did? I know Sigurd was busy but it only takes half a minute to Copy and Paste some PM's. Why write the investigation results out?
Manfredo: Manfredo can only get investigation results regarding Juliette. If Sigurd was Manfredo, why wasn't he killing Juliette last night?
Carelli: Why the investigation results? Carellis can't investigate. Is Sigurd mafia and just trying to misdirect us? If he is Carelli, does that mean the "mob" style killings are over? (since we're assuming 00Jebus was Carelli)
Yakuza: Taketsi can investigate. And that might explain why Sigurd didn't want to do a full reveal. Will the yakuza style hits stop now?
MiB: Despite Sasaki's thoughts on the matter, I am not convinced that the MiB is Juliette's brother. What if there is another role out there?
Another secret role: Also possible. Time will tell though if there are more killings.
I guess this doesn't answer anything. I don't know who Sigurd is. But something does seem suspicious about his claims.
I guess most of us are in your boat, Privateerkev (nice summation, BTW).
Sadly, without more reveals, our only other strategy, as I see it, is to wait for the next batch of kills, to see what we can derive from the methods used, victims chosen, and 'calling cards', if any.
Sigurd's rants, though possibly sincere, don't pass the smell test for me. He has proven before to be a master at weaving many lies around a tiny kernel of truth (a great asset in mafia games).
However, the strike against Husar is that he still has not denied being out on night one. Surely that should have been the immediate reaction. If Sigurd was taketsi he would still have accurate results on Husar.
There is definitely some truth to Sigurd's claims. Husar has reacted in a manner that only seems to validate the results. Those results don't make him mafioso, but they do warrant further investigation. This applies equally to the person whose name was removed from the list. There are plenty of legitimate reasons for keeping things private, but explanations will have to be made eventually, especially if the town does not start getting more useful information than we have in the past. Even if Sigurd was mafioso, he was lynched through pure dumb luck. With several people claiming, or apparently in contact with, pro-town roles, more solid information of some kind about who is mafia and who is innocent should start coming forth. If it does not within the next couple turns, the odds will be far more likely that we are being played.
Night 4 - conclusion
Warman couldn't sleep. The last few days had been very stressfull and paranoia poisoned his mind. He continually switched the lights on and off, convinced as he was that somebody was watching him.
Once more, he switched on the lights.
"Let me switch off your lights," a dark voice said.
The crashing sound going through his skull was the last thing Warman heard before falling unconscious.
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When he woke up, he found himself in chains. He noticed that a few bags filled with stones were attached on his legs. He heard the sound of an engine. Few minutes later, Warman was hanging on a rope, above the sea, watching Isola Bella.
He tried to say something, but the fear had a firm grasp on his throat and he couldn't produce a single word.
"Nobody insults my family. Time for you to swim."
A click and all of the sudden Warman fell in the water.
His attacker was dressed in a diving suit and he jumped into the water. While he was watching Warman drowning, the man grinned.
***
TinCow was in his room, reading a magazine.
The smell of perfume caught his attention.
"Hi honey, wanna have some fun tonight?"
TinCow dropped his magazine, staring at the stunning beauty entering his room.
"I will fullfill all your desires," the prostitute said.
"I can ask whatever I want?", TinCow said, not believing how lucky he was.
She giggled.
"Yes!" TinCow yelled, excited. "Come over here, help me with this!"
"But, that's illegal!" the esteemed lady said.
"I know, I know, but who cares? Besides, isn't prostitution illegal as well?"
She shrugged.
30 minutes later, both were staring at the inflatable cross, hanging in the room. "Can you glue me on the cross? And glue these feathers on my chest. Oh, and the wig, don't forget the wig."
"Are you sure?" the prostitute asked, feeling a bit disturbed about the extragavant wishes of her client.
"Oh, come on, please. This is all I ever dreamt off."
"Ok, then..."
TinCow was happy. Being glued on an inflatable cross, feathers glued on his chest and a wig upside down his head was close to his ultimate fantasy. When the prostitute finally gave him the pencil, he started to wave it at her (being glued, he couldn't hit her.) Every time he moved the pencil, the prostitute produced little screams.
They didn't notice the man standing behind TinCow. A high kick on the cross made it fall down. Glued on the cross, TinCow could only stare at the silent, dark figure who jumped to him, another kick hitting TinCow in the face. The man prepared himself for the finishing blow, when he saw the back of the stunning beauty.
"Oh my..." he murmured. Angelica turned around. Afraid of being recognised, the man jumped back into the shadows and climbed back through the window through which he had entered the room.
***
Kukrikhan couldn't sleep either. He left his hotel room and went to the bar. Unfortunately, the bar was closed. Since nobody was there, he grabbed a bottle of Vino alla Mandorla and he decided to walk to the beach.
Walking down one of the narrow streets of Taormina, he was worrying about the past events.
"I hope I'll survive this nightmare", he said to himself. "I shouldn't walk too far. I'd better emtpy this bottle and go back to sleep."
He turned around and saw a man, weilding a tommy gun. The blasting salvo right in Kukrikhan's chest ended his life quickly.
The killer left the scene.
***
Ichigo left the hotel room, because there was still some unfinished business to attend.
While standing in the hall, a man walked up to Ichigo, carrying a handgun. The cold professional didn't say a word, pointed the gun at Ichigo and pulled the trigger.
Ichigo fell down. The killer ended the job with two shots in the head and one extra in the chest.
The killer ensured himself that there had been no witnesses and disappeared again in the shadows.
***
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Porta Messina - Taormina - 7 a.m.
"Good morning, ladies and gentlemen", Pino said to the gathered crowd.
"I'm afraid I have some bad news. I found several bodies early this morning. Warman, Kukrikhan and Ichigo have been found dead. And allthough prostitution is still a crime here in Taormina, I believe mister TinCow is probably very happy that he spent last night with a lady of questionable morality. Unfortunately did he nor the lady in question recognise the attacker. So I guess it comes down to voting. Again."
Pino sighed, he was getting desperate.
Alive (22)
Tiberius of the Drake
woad&fangs
Omanes
Caius
Sarathos
Gaius Sribonius Curio
pevergreen
Sasaki Kojiro
Husar
TinCow
Elite Ferret
Northnovas
Rythmic
LittleGrizzly
Mithrandir
axel
Haudegen
Makanyane
Bananabob
Tratorix
Privateerkev
Proletariat
Killed (8)
Seamus Fermanagh
GeneralHankerchief
makaikhaan
Glenn
Crazed Rabbit
Ichigo
Kukrikhan
AntiWarmanCake
Lynched (3)
shlin28
00jebus
Sigurd Fafnesbane
WoG'ed (2)
Zorg
TwilightBlade
Suicide (3)
Hiji
Beefy187
Yaropolk
***
It's now Day. You can start voting. Day will last for +/- 25 hours.
This I find interesting... had the prostitute already visited this man? My suspicion goes to Sasaki, I think he's gotta be lynched.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Son of A Hitchhitcker.:laugh4:
I was drowned, but I can swim! Oh well:laugh4:
Wouldn't any killer be afraid of being recognized? This is a small town.Quote:
Originally Posted by makaikhaan
I'm far more interested in the fact that Manfredo is indeed alive. Why did he kill on N4 and not N3 when everyone knew Juliette's identity?
If you recall, the prostitute was sleeping with Proletariat on N3.
FoS: Proletariat
Quote:
Originally Posted by makaikhaan
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
I find it interesting that manfredo didn't kill ichigo last night. Also, it appears th grinning killer isn't limited to killing those who voted in the same round.
Prole posted a write up which had her staying at home. The prostitute would have known she was lying if she was. I was thinking more along the lines of someone who wasn't present yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Privateerkev
Ah ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Who wasn't around?
Well at least it ended on a fine Italian beach with a bottle of good wine.
something has occured to me about Manfredo - slightly too late unfortunately....
did he maybe have to investigate Ichigo to get confirmation that he was actually she, before being able to make kill?
fact that Ichigo is now dead does make me somewhat sorry for doubting before :embarassed:
It was certainly violent. I think we can assume it was a Carelli who did it.Quote:
Originally Posted by KukriKhan
The attempted hit on TC involved a "high kick". My guess would be yakuza.
Juliette's brother is obviously still around.
And it looks like Manfredo found Juliette.
So, I will ask again, who is Sigurd?
I think the thing of prime importance today is an explanation from Husar.
Just to clarify from TC's incident (adventure :beam:) he was actually a target that night but was protected because he was with the prostitute?
yep looks like thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Northnovas
I suspect axel might be Juliette's brother.
He has never voted. And he has not said a single word since sign-ups closed.
Yet he has not been WoG'd, when others have. Why?
vote: axel
Vote: Axel
Vote: Pevergreen
You have yet to contribute any real discussion to the game. You also attacked Pkev for having a large number of posts even though is posting habits have already been discussed at length and found to be perfectly normal for him.
Here is Juliette's brother's hit list:
makaikhaan: dead
Glenn: dead
pevergreen
Crazed Rabbit: dead
Sasaki Kojiro
Husar
TinCow
00jebus: dead
Haudegen
AntiWarmanCake: dead
Privateerkev
Anyone who is alive and on this list has a vested interest in helping me find this guy.
Of everyone still alive, only two people have never voted. Sarathos and axel. But Sarathos at least talks so it makes sense that he hasn't been WoG'd yet.
axel's continued presence in the game makes no sense unless he has a role.
:no:
axel's continued presence in the game makes no sense unless he has a role.
Thats good enough for me
Vote Axel
axel will soon be WoG'd. If he returns and votes then we lynch him. It appears that he is inactive yet all known baddies made or attempted kills last night.
Thankyouthankyouthankyou!Quote:
Originally Posted by woad&fangs
Finally, someone who is speaking sense!
Concentrate on those who are active.
Ah great, without a wonder the town is pretty much dead now. :no:
Yes, that's all I have to say for now.