Could you reply to me... Thanks in advance Kage. :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen Asen
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Could you reply to me... Thanks in advance Kage. :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen Asen
Everything is possible, but if its about the change that have been discussed via pm´s its bound to effect the game anyway. Stripping a title from a person inside a clan could have an effect in the game. A happy retainer/ family member, is one who is on charge of important things and places.~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen Asen
Kage
My family and I have been ill most of this week - I am still off work - so I can't see me doing the heirs etc until next week. I will get my move in today/ tomorrow however.
I understand Kurt. Take your time. If people have problems with the heirs and governors, concentrate on your answers. But i do want those eventually.:smash:Quote:
Originally Posted by King Kurt
It has been confirmed that sadly Franc has to leave us because of his real life busyness, so i would like to thank him for participating and hope that you will return to game when you have more time in your hands. Im taking over Imagawa for this chapter, but its now open for a new player. Clans Ashina and Tokugawa are also available for human player, if there are interest.:bow:
Our Nomination for governors are:
Awa: my brother Miyoshi Yoshikata, commander of the Shikoku field armies
Sanuki: Miyoshi Masayasu
Awaji: Matsunaga Hisahide
Settzu: my brother Miyoshi Kazunari
Izumi: my brother Atagi Fuyuyasu, commander of the fleet
Kwatchi: Miyoshi Nagayuki
Yamashiro: we, Miyoshi Chokei, are responsible for the fate of Yamashiro and the safety of the Shogun in the current turbulent situation
We nominate as heir our son Miyoshi Yoshioki, who is also a commander of the personal guard of the mighty Shogun Ashikaga
Sign,
Miyoshi Chokei, Kanrei and Defender of Nippon and the Mighty Shogun Ashikaga
OOC: Kage, I want to specify several things but they would be a matter of the PM with the decisions.
Kage, are you Daiymo Ashina?
Yes. As long as we dont have a human player to rule that clan. If clan is not ruled by one of the players in the list which is in the first post,then i will control it.:yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by IrishArmenian
I wish to join. What clans are still open?
Imagawa, Tokugawa, Hojo and Ashina.
Kage, your PM box is full...:stars: Since I'll be busy in the weekend, I'll send to you my decisions on Monday. :bow:
Kage, my decisions are going to be late because of Rl. but they will come.
Kage, if possible, could you clear some PM space? I rather need to ask a question.
I'll take Imagawa please. :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by AggonyDuck
Yeah, it would be nice if you could clear some space Kage.
Kage, could you put the deadline on Saturday, please? I have a test this week and I will be offline until then. :bow:
sorry for the late response, but real life has caught up to me it seems , i have stopped visiting this site totally since some time now ,and it would be wrong of me to leave without leeting you all know, i would like kage to give my honorable clan to himself :P
i will return , in a short order, about 2-3 weeks, if not ill let you all know and u can assign a new player, but i doubt that, Chosokabe is Ma baby and i wont leave her to someone else other than Kage.
See you all later.
Everyone here is leaving :sweatdrop:
I hope you, Fran and everyone else can come back soon Dark :yes:
Oh crap.Il make some space asap. Darkragnar.I can handle your clan for couple weeks,no problemo. Stephen Asen,you mean you want to postpone the chapter for a full week? americancaesar, wellcome to the game. You can start playing Imagawa as the summer turn starts.I will give you your starting info as the next chapter will be out.:smash:
A message to the Shôgun and Kanrei Miyoshi Chokei
Although I do not like it, I am forced to obey the Shôgun's orders on the matter at Ise. We do not have the power to defend ourselves against a coalition led by Miyoshi. Hence I will lower my weapon and withdraw from Ise. I will send my sword with a messenger to Kyoto, to ensure the Shôgun and his Kanrei, that I will not draw it against another one of his Shugo again.
Oda Nobunaga
Message from Ashikaga Shogunate
Shogun is pleased to see that both Yamana and Oda Clans have decided to listen to the orders of Shogunate. We hope this will allow more peaceful future for the Kansai region. Shogunate hope´s that Clan Asai will obey Shoguns orders also, by publicly announcing withdrawal from Ise province.
Open letter from Ôtomo Sorin to the Shogun and the Kanrei:
I am astounded at your stubborn interference in the matter between Asai and Kitabatake. Is it not true that Asai accepted Miyoshi Chokei as Kanrei, while the Kitabatake refused him? If Kitabatake refused him, he also refused the Shogun's directions. Still, you demand that your supporters should cease war against your enemies. Explain this to me, as it makes no sense. If Asai brings loyalty to the Shogun back to Ise, how is this not in your interests?
I have no objections to the war Lord Asai is waging, given the circumstances. The war has been fought honourably, and with everything considered, Asai's cause is righteous. However Kitabatake, while refusing Shogunal decrees, comes begging for the Shogun's voice only when his impudent head is threatened by the Asai. Yet you, the Shogun and the Kanrei, defy your supporters and support your enemies. It is outrageous. Is this because Miyoshi Chokei only fear his neighbours growing stronger?
For the Kanrei showed no interest in supporting the Ôtomo when we were attacked by Ryûzôji and Akizuki, and had our provinces ravaged by them.
Miyoshi Chokei, inconsistency in your role as Kanrei lowers your authority. Why should I grant such a man, driven by partiality to his own interest, my support?
I bet if I and other Daimyô had not spoken up, neither you nor the Shogun would not have cared for the Isshiki issue either, because neither they nor Yamana border Miyoshi provinces.
I demand that the Shogun and his Kanrei leave Asai to their business and redeem their positions. If they do, the Ôtomo will also recognize the Kanrei as the Asai already does,
Ôtomo Sorin
Open letter to the Shogun
Lord Asai will wait for a response from the Shogun to Lord Otomo before he response to your request.
From Shogunate to Otomo Clan,
While Kitabatake did not accept the authority of Kanrei right away, they have not declared against Ashikaga Shogunate and have served as Shugo of Ise for many generations. Kitabatake was not the only clan to be slow to accept Miyoshi as Kanrei.
Which is worse crime: To be slow to accept changes, or to invade peaceful provinces? Is Otomo Sorin suggesting that Ashikaga Shogunate only serves the will of Miyoshi Chokei?
About the situation between Ruyzoji, Akizuki and Otomo. Was it not Otomo Clan that demanded both Ruyzoji and Akizuki to submit to the authority of Otomo, would Otomo declare war, if such demand would be done to them by some other Shugo?
representative of Shogunate
Indeed I do. The lack of conscequence in your actions has proven it time and time again.Quote:
Is Otomo Sorin suggesting that Ashikaga Shogunate only serves the will of Miyoshi Chokei?
The Ôtomo clan would not declare war upon a proposal of vassalship, unless we were overly eager for an excuse to do so. We are not and will never be. We would however declare war if hostile armies crossed into our borders. The words of a rival Daimyô does not harm my subjects without action put behind them.
Kitabatake silently stepped away while the Hatakeyama and the Tsutsui waged war on Miyoshi, he would not accept Miyoshi Chokei's office for the same reason. He would not stand up for the Shogunate and fight it's enemies.
When the Ito-clan of Kyûshû was engulfed in war against Sagara, for the solemn reason of them supporting Shogunal decrees and the appointment of the Kanrei, neither the Kanrei nor the Shogun spoke ONE WORD. One of your few loyal supporters was allowed to be destroyed without as much as a complaint! What did the Shogunate do instead? Issue decrees to promote the persecution of christians!
The Ito were too far away for you to care about, because they were not attacked by Miyoshi neighbours! You use your autority only to support the interests of your master, therefore I do not accept it! I care not if the Ito were destroyed because they were foolish enough to support weaklings, I will however care when said weaklings uses empty excuses to threaten their neighbours! The same has already happened to the Chosokabe. Wether their cause was just or not does not matter, the Kono was supported only so that Chosokabe would not grow into a threat against the Miyoshi.
I'm tired of witnessing this outrageus partiality! I demand that you redeem yourself and remove your pressure from the Asai. Your honour is at stake and that of Miyoshi Chokei. This is my final warning.
To Otomo Clan from Ashikaga Shogunate,
So Otomo accuses the Shogunate of the wars in Kyushu? The Shogunate have to admit that it havent possessed instruments to deal with the rebellious clans of Kyushu for quite some time or support the loyal ones, but hopefully there will be change coming as Mori Motonari was granted the title of Kyushu Tandai. Otomo Sorin should not blame the Shogunate for his own policies to gain full control of Kyushu.
Could it be that his meddling in affairs of Kansai region is just agitation, so he could declare war to Miyoshi in order to invade Shikoku?
From Otomo´s earlier response, should we think that Otomo declares open rebellion against the Shogunate and should be classified as rebel and enemy of Shogunate?
representative of Shogunate
To the Shogun from clan Ôtomo:
I have no personal interest in gaining land on the cost of Miyoshi, but I'm sure many other Daimyô have.
You may class me however you want, you now know I will not look upon either the Shogun or his Kanrei as friends or allies, if they choose to continue with their current policies.
This is not due to my expansionistic interests, this is due to my loud despise towards your administration. I've put my reasons on the table and anyone with eyes should be able to see that they are not groundless.
I'm well willing to submit myself to a Shogun who rules wisely and just. If your descisions reflected the best interest of Japan, I would swear my life to you, after all that is my job. I rule too many people to subject them to the inept whims of a shaky leader. Prove yourself as a ruler and I will prove myself as a subject,
Ôtomo Sorin
I thought it was common knowledge that the Shogunate only serves the will of Miyoshi Chokei, no matter what he tries to say to the contrary. Anyway I urge Asai to join me in my decision. Although losing a year's efforts is a waste, it is still better than fighting a war alone against a coalition that not even an Oda-Asai alliance could hope to defeat. If you pull back now there might still be a chance that a favorable agreement is agreed upon that wouldn't make our efforts an utter waste. Any attempt to fight can only end in ruin and you know this as well as I do.
Oda Nobunaga
Hm,I like to take Hojo if I can.
Isn't two clans enough for you?
Ducky, have you any evidence to back this up? This is a game and people like to have fun with it.