It's not at the stage of the game where mafia lynches are crucial, but mafia>3p still much better even now.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Barto
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It's not at the stage of the game where mafia lynches are crucial, but mafia>3p still much better even now.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Barto
Not necessarily. We don't know the numbers of either, so culling them must be done at any chance. A non-town non-vanilla role's gone down, and my shiny metal ass is right safe and tight tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuthillius
mehQuote:
Originally Posted by El Barto
he's probably not a serial killer
he's not a cultist
i would rather he have been scum
Of course, but we've a) gotten rid of a non-native b) not reduced the number of townies and b) established that my reads are right. Bending units for. the. win.
Well, at least I wasn't completely wrong. Doesn't change the alignment of anyone voting for them however, because mafia would probably assume that they were town.
Amy! (@BSmith): thoughts, girl?
Tonight I will take a leak of battery acid in your grave brother, just to rust your metal ass!Quote:
Originally Posted by El Barto
And for this you should be lynched.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riedquat
And what will happen with your bending units for the win then?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Barto
Not the ones who steal my wife!Quote:
Originally Posted by Riedquat
Can anyone locate Qubert Farnsworth and/or Stephen J. Fry?
I am Nixon, if full character claims is what you wanted.
Unless that's a role-claim, I don't think it's too useful to say our flavor identities.
Also, Farnsworth third-party is a very suboptimal lynch, despite the ravings of our dead robot here.
Yeah, it isn't a role claim, I don't think the characters matter. Unless they do, in which case mine is here for future reference.
I didn't say it was optimal or the best result ever, you organic dummy. I just said that all non-town lynches are good, as we have to eliminate them at some point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
depending on win conditions, potentiallyQuote:
Originally Posted by El Barto
Not as a rule. Bender here, for example, is a good example. Survivor role rarely means 'Sole Survivor'.Quote:
as we have to eliminate them at some point.
I apologize for redundancy.
Better than outright town, and Stork was playing dismally. Your ass only gets away with being scummy if it's my shiny metal one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuthillius
Yeah, well, but with that wife-stealing shyster and bad cook it's personal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
I have a couple theories as to who is mafia now, should I post them while they are fresh and I might be able to coherently explain them, or should I wait so mafia has less time to decide on the kill influenced by my list? Not that I have very much influence over the town as it is, but it is still a concern.
Do it as close to deadline as you can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dp101
Type it down now if it helps, just don't post.
Since I'm going to get blocked tonight, I don't suppose it matters. But who should you guys want information on?
Or probably even draw that kill so some actual work gets done tomorrow.
I'm going to be curious about choxorn unless someone has a better suggestion.
GH, novice, murska all better choices imoQuote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Checking on the lurkers is probably a decent idea, just so we can get some info out of them.
Top 4 suspects in red then orange, fleshed out the reasons why on most of them.Quote:
9 Stork (novice, cuth, dp101, Winston, jht, atpg, choxorn, Newyn, al sips)
5 ATPG (monty, pelican, riedquat, murska,Stork)
2 novice (atheotes, generalhanky)
Top 4 townie guesses in blue plus myself, said why on all of those repeatedly and at length.
By role, I have no reason to suspect those in green
No idea about john, novice, or atheotes. Based on the vote record, leaning against it being novice.
Unfortunately I don't have any useful info on the ones I've already checked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dp101
Let's hope choxorn is as scummy as his iso says he is.
Off to school. Thanks for deciding against lynching me, however halfheartedly.
Reidquat is still anti-town, btw.
Please don't post if you're not in the game.
who are you to tell a spambot what to doQuote:
Originally Posted by Zack
Farnsworth could very well have been a threat to us, and I'm honestly a bit surprised Stork never claimed to be a non-threatening third party role like Riedquat did, he was clearly the leading lynch for a while and it couldn't have hurt him to claim his role.
Doesn't matter. We can analyse the wagon as if it we're town.
Do tell your interesting findings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Murska
I look forward to reading these SOD tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dp101
I would prefer Cuth but will not be disappointed if you decided on Chox.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Based on that list Pizza posted, I'm going to call him scum.
I already mentioned a few. I'll see about the later reactions once I have time. Interesting how many people went all 'this isn't so bad' when we failed to catch maf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Read mine, metal-ass. I was talking about day two, as described in post 1454. Winston voted Crimson for being confusing about his vig claim. You then said it was "not a bad vote", which is high praise of a meatbag, coming from you.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Barto
Nobody tells robots what to do!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuthillius
Freudian slip detected!Quote:
Originally Posted by Murska
You amused me, strong-ass. Good work.Quote:
Freudian slip detected!
Then next time provide actual reference, rookie-boy. With insufficient and inaccurate information, the odds of achieving the proper result diminish dramatically.Quote:
Originally Posted by novice
I suspect it would have amused you even more if I had detected a Freudian boxer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Technically it's an autocorrect slip, but if you want more evidence I'm Town, feel free to assume it was a Freudian one.
how did the assassination goQuote:
Originally Posted by Murska
@Dp101: you have an hour and a half to go.
Well aware.
Five minutes according to the timer, Dp101!
The below was written just after the start of the night, my feelings may have changed only partially since then, these are just my overall assumptions for the game, and my main point still probably stands. I know this isn't the super 1337 :59 post, but whatever.
Ok, so right now I'm faced with a problem. Stork's wagon wasn't really close at all, he had half the town pushing him. However, looking at the remaining town, our lack of found mafia, the likelihood that >50% of the mafia are lurking, and the how to powerwolf article I just read, I would have to be an idiot at this point not to assume that I have been pocketed by at least one mafia, and there is decent chance that a decent portion of the active town are all mafia. Since I don't want to get swept, at this stage I need to evaluate candidates that have both read me as town and have a decent chance of being mafia. So, in no particular order:
Pelican
Early on I liked his play, while his posts were infrequent they seemed to be of reasonably high quality. However, lately, I have been desiring more out of him. While he did pronounce me town ages ago, he was most certainly not the first to do so, so its a pretty easy pocket that wasn't that risky given that he had at least a couple of people backing up that read. Overall, this might change if he posts more, because I don't really understand his current reads. Currently back to null because his early reads are no longer up to the required standard that should be expected at this stage.
Cuthillius
IIRC Cuth was the first one to pronounce me town forever and ever. He also kept it up even when I was disagreeing with him, which IMO shows that he wasn't just doing it solely to stop me from voting him, as I think mafia would have given up. However, as mentioned, I can't trust anyone right now, even if their reads are very similar to mine and I have been agreeing on most every point. Probably not going to lynch right now, as I think I must have been working with at least a couple of townies, and cuth is one of the most likely for that position.
ATPG
Worst case scenario. Judging by how other people have reacted to his reads, I get the feeling that if he was wolfing, I would have no way to tell. Basically I think I have to not lynch right now because if he is mafia then I doubt I will be able to get enough people together to kill him, and TBH we probably will have already lost.
Most of the rest of the wagon is either mostly inactive or has never really read me as town, so my opinion of them doesn't change after the lynch because I was more likely to kill them than the above already, which if my tinfoil theory of everyone I have been working with is mafia is right, means that they are probably town
Well, I thought this would take longer and I would write more. Basically, my main lynch target is still Winston because I disliked him on the wagon, but I might watch those mentioned above a little more. I still have my eye on Monty, but that theory doesn't really make sense with the flips so far. Really I'm just trying to reassess my reads and stop just following along with other people.
Night is over. DO NOT POST.
https://i.imgur.com/xCQagOO.jpg
Zack: "What's the word, officers?"
Smitty: "There's a new body, sir."
Zack: "A new one?"
URL: "Awwww yeah."
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"I'm sure those windmills will keep them cool." - Newyn
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
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It is now Day Four.
Voting ends in:
Alive: 14
Al Sipsclar
Askthepizzaguy
atheotes
Choxorn
Cuthillius
Dp101
GeneralHankerchief
johnhughthom
Montmorency
Murska
novice
Pelican
Riedquat
Winston Hughes
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Lynched: 3
d1 - spaceman98 - Leela
d2 - BSmith - Amy (can talk)
d3 - Stork - Professor Farnsworth
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Killed: 5
n1 - El Barto - Flexo (can talk)
n2 - Visor - Hermes
n2 - seireikhaan - Larry
d3 - CrimsonFox - Zapp Brannigan
n3 - Newyn - Linda
You can post.
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Worst case scenario. Judging by how other people have reacted to his reads, I get the feeling that if he was wolfing, I would have no way to tell. Basically I think I have to not lynch right now because if he is mafia then I doubt I will be able to get enough people together to kill him, and TBH we probably will have already lost.
You mean, we can't just Vote: Pizza?
So, Newyn died. Good hit for Pizza without killing a high-profile detractor such as myself, and I still remember Winston and Pelican. Perhaps the latter as scum toned down his activity once his partner Khaan bit it. At any rate, he seems to be riding coattails at this point. Doesn't mean I won't take his vote on Pizza, of course.
If there are any more roles out there, do not claim. This game has been a role massacre.
Claim, Mr. Pizza, instead of threatening to. If the town has a protector, he can be dispatched to save your sorry organic ass.
(we can always lynch that filthy Bender, an inferior, goatee-less, wife-stealing unit)
With 4 town roles dead, I'm pretty sure Bender is the closest thing to protector we can hope for.
Yeah, well, but my shiny metal ass is playing in character.
Isn't Flexo supposed to be a nice guy?
Oh, I understand, we can just vote pizza, but I'm really worried that if I do so I'm just going to wind up sabotaging town via my paranoia if I am wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
No he isn't!Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
I'm joking. I am a nice guy, it's just that Bender who tried to kill me a couple times and framed me for some jewel-theft and let me be killed on Night One!
You can always undo the waggon. If everyone votes pizza then you have some mafia meatbags in there. Unvote atpg and analyse how the others interact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dp101
But now that won't work because you just told me to do it. Essentially the main problem with trying to learn the game as you play.
I wish to have your confidence in my own abilities! But at least my doctoroing is functional, got informed at the beginning of the night but for the time being I'm stuck with the same target.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
vote:pizza
Underexplained reads:
GH
Riedquat: No way he's not town.
Dp101: Really strong past night phase. Don't see him following these thought patterns if not mafia.
Monty: Looks like typical town Monty.
ATPG: I think the flavor of pizza we're getting this game is "town but off base".
Murska: Looked decent enough EoD yesterday.
Choxorn: He *looks* town, but there needs to be more.
Pelican: Coasting. Dropping.
The "I got nothing" group:
Al Sips
atheotes
jht
Cuthilius: Need to concentrate on him today.
Residual suspects from earlier:
novice
Winston
edit to above re: DP101: should read "don't see him following these patterns ifnotmafia"
explain how choxorn looks townQuote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
explain why you get that vibe from pizza
because your comment about pizza looks really bad to me
Specifically, he claims Neutral Survivor.Quote:
Riedquat: No way he's not town.
to be specific it looks like a comment one scum buddy makes about another
reading them town despite their "off-base" vibe
such a wonderful excuse
Can't be helped, you're not a robot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dp101
See, Monty? He helps others but not me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riedquat
Choxorn looks town to me because he looks town to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuthillius
I get that vibe from pizza because I don't think he acts like this when he's scummy but I think his reads are off base.
Hope this helps ~:wave:
And you look like a GeneralHankerchief because you look like a GeneralHankerchief to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Of course it helps! Well, no, it doesn't.
I'd be quite willing to vote you, GH
Okay cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuthillius
takh what's your take on pizza
Who's takh?
just tell meQuote:
Originally Posted by El Barto
Tell you what?
Can we lynch already dead vanilla townies?
what you think about atpg in this game we are playing in right nowQuote:
Originally Posted by El Barto
particularly about his alignment
I still think the case on Pizza is incredibly strong, so I'll go ahead and vote:Pizza again today. For the time being, this is where my focus is, and it will likely remain here until Pizza is lynched or the case is satisfactorily refuted. As it is, I don't think my primary arguments (Pizza's haphazard voting for every leading wagon on the day of BSmith's lynch and his halfhearted Choxorn vote + token analysis + misplaced piling on against Stork yesterday) have been refuted.
Murska's moving steadily up the town meter: he feels totally relaxed and natural and I've tended to agree with his recent reads.
DP still town, no news there.
A couple others contingent on Pizza scuminess: General Handkerchief and Choxorn specifically would be where I'd look for wolf partners.
I'll say tentatively that Cuth is likely town if Pizza is scum, if he is serious about supporting the Pizza lynch today. I don't think bussing Pizza in this situation is part of Cuth's wolf playbook.
Beyond that, I'm surprised that Al Sipsclar hasn't gotten more attention than he has. I feel like a couple of his posts, and his play in general this game, has pinged me more than once, and I was actually surprised that it didn't ping any of the out of towners/big guns in the thread like Visor or Cuth. In fact, I don't think I can recall any commentary on his play so far, and given that we can probably bet on at least one wolf among the lurker population, this might be a good angle to explore. He's certainly in the sweet spot for not being noticed. Somene explained how to do an ISO on this site earlier, I'm pretty sure, but I can't find it; how would one go about that if they were so inclined?