Capo de Tutti Capi - II [Concluded]

It is interesting that both the hits on Prole were mafia. The first was the usual weather balloon crew (who are racking up an impressive number of kills) and the second was obviously the Stracchi remnants. Prole has seemed a bit suspicious to me off and on, but it seems unlikely that two families would target her on the same night without having some specific reasons for wanting her dead. She's spent pretty much every post pointing the finger at GH, but the Stracchis made two attempts on GH and the Balloon gang finally got him. That's both of the families that went after Prole. Therefore, Prole's attacks on GH did not make her a target. She was therefore targeted for reasons that are not publicly known, so that definitely ups her on the suspicion-o-meter.

I feel the need to comment on Sasaki's contact with a Made who is supposedly supplying him with investigative results. As far as I know he has no reason to falsify this. In all honesty he has fewer reasons to actually make it truthful.

I recommend that the town pressurises him into revealing details on this shady character and how he came into contact with him rather than electing him as director.

I suggest urgent actions be taken against Louis and GH for previously mentioned actions/crimes.

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Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites

I suggest urgent actions be taken against Louis and GH for previously mentioned actions/crimes.

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Uh, GH is dead.

People remember what I said:

Lets make it a house rule to post a tally after every vote.

This would organize it much better.

As for voting, I vote:abstain...I don't know if we can vote for director. If we can, I will vote Loius..be sure of it. So, if anyone can tell me the rules on lynching a director, I will change my vote.

Second, it's not like I don't trust some people, but I trust myself the most (obviously)
Select:TruePraetorian

Whoever the next director is should vow to multi-lynch. Or at least lynch whoever the people want to lynch, which I know I can do without hesitiation. So, if you have someone to double, or even tripple lynch, lets make sure the next director will do so. ( I will :yes: )

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Cappotally --- 1764
Lynch votes:
Sasaki - 1 (Andres)
Prole - 1 (Scottishranger)
Loius - 1 (JimBob)

Director Selection:
Sasaki - 1 (TinCow)
JimBob - 1 (JimBob)
TruePraetorian - 1 (TruePraetorian)

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TruePraetorian, Seamus confirmed in the rules thread that we can lynch a sitting Director.

Also, I kind of find it funny that the people most going after me are turning out to be entirely untrustworthy. First Omanes (Don), then Louis (traitor scumbag), and now Prole (possibly Don).

Kinda funny, isn't it?

Thanks, GH. I will change my vote.
Unvote: Abstain
Vote: Loius

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Cappotally --- 1766
Lynch votes:
Sasaki - 1 (Andres)
Prole - 1 (Scottishranger)
Loius - 2 (JimBob, TruePraetorian)

Director Selection:
Sasaki - 1 (TinCow)
JimBob - 1 (JimBob)
TruePraetorian - 1 (TruePraetorian)

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I can't help but feel there's more that needs to be done today.

Vote:Louis
Select:Sasaki

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Cappotally --- 1764
Lynch votes:
Loius - 3 (JimBob, TruePraetorian,Sasaki)
Sasaki - 1 (Andres)
Prole - 1 (Scottishranger)


Director Selection:
Sasaki - 3 (TinCow,Scottishranger,Sasaki)
JimBob - 1 (JimBob)
TruePraetorian - 1 (TruePraetorian)

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Select:Caius
You can trust in me, since I am a townie.

TinCow is right, if they are targeting prole, it cant just be a coincidence, therefore, I will vote:prole

Select: JimBob

In my book he is the only confirmed pro-townie alive.



Vote: abstain




Cappotally --- 1769
Lynch votes:
Loius - 3 (JimBob, TruePraetorian, Sasaki, Haudegen)
Sasaki - 1 (Andres)
Prole - 2 (Scottishranger, Caius)


Director Selection:
Sasaki - 3 (TinCow, Scottishranger, Sasaki)
JimBob - 1 (JimBob, Haudegen)
TruePraetorian - 1 (TruePraetorian)
Caius - 1 (Caius)

edit: included Caius

Right tally:
Loius - 3 (JimBob, TruePraetorian, Sasaki, Haudegen)
Sasaki - 1 (Andres)
Prole - 2 (Scottishranger, Caius)


Director Selection:
Sasaki - 3 (TinCow, Scottishranger, Sasaki)
JimBob - 2 (JimBob, Haudegen)
TruePraetorian - 1 (TruePraetorian)
Caius - 1 (Caius)

Haudegen and everyone else, Seamus has hinted editing votes is now a modkillable offence. Unvote then vote, or don't change your vote at all.

Okay, but I felt I had to correct the tally. If someone copies a wrong tally, the error may be carried on unnoticed. I hope Seamus doesn´t mind too much, since my vote itself didn´t change.

Ok, I´m a little stupid. The tally was still wrong. Here is the correct one. (I hope, please check!)

Lynch votes:
Loius - 3 (JimBob, TruePraetorian, Sasaki)
Sasaki - 1 (Andres)
Prole - 2 (Scottishranger, Caius)


Director Selection:
Sasaki - 3 (TinCow, Scottishranger, Sasaki)
JimBob - 2 (JimBob, Haudegen)
TruePraetorian - 1 (TruePraetorian)
Caius - 1 (Caius)

I´ll try to explain it, believe it or not. I was considering to vote Louis. I prepared the tally accordingly, then I hit the preiview button. Then I reconsidered and chose not to vote now. I figured that Louis would get enough votes anyway and perhaps later in the phase something new might evolve. I didn´t want my vote for Louis to be in the way of a possible multi lynch.

So changed to abstain and forgot to remove me in the tally. Sorry.

edit: damn I´m getting nervous. another error.

erm none of these tallies seem to have Kagemusha's ever optimistic attempt to elect himself included https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...postcount=1754
could people double check nothing else is missing, before anything does carry on unnoticed.

(I'm still trying to catch up with rest of thread so will vote later)

we aint going to make mistake again are we?

Select: JimBob

edit: not vote changing :brood:

Fos: Kagemusha
Fos: FactionHeir

they wont get away that easy

someone please screen them!

Louis has indeed done the town a great service by exposing most of the Stracchi family. But this does not make him pro-town, and it's pretty clear he isn't.

First, there's the matter of Tran: why did Louis lie about him being the Stracchi's original Made, while leaving Andres out of his tell-all post completely? If he wanted the Stracchis truly wiped out, he wouldn't have done this.

This means that Louis knew perfectly well that he had become a Made gangster, and was still trying to lead his new family to victory.

And regarding this:

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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

@Kommodus, on N1, a rogue detective – who doesn’t give inaccurate results – showed you as criminal. JimBob showed you as criminal too.

Yet, you said in the thread that you should show up as ‘innocent’. This is a lie.

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That's not how the rules read.

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Originally Posted by Seamus, from the rules

Most Townies will appear as “innocent” if investigated by a detective, though 1 in 6-8 will appear “criminal” despite their innocence.

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This appears to be irrespective of the "accuracy" of the investigation; you'll notice how FBI detectives get more accurate results than regular detectives (though still not perfectly accurate). I must be one of those unlucky townies who shows up as "criminal." It isn't relevant how many times I get investigated.

Anyway, this will become obvious in a few days after my post-mortem, so it's pointless to debate this further.

Ghost Vote: Louis

You played the game well, sir - that kind of deceit, treachery, murder is truly what Capo di Tutti Capi is all about. :bow:

On Prole. She was obviously protected, which means either she's a Don or has a doctor friend.

And she was attacked after leading the charge on GH. I think the mafia thought she might have a role. The mafia knows it's pointless to attack a Don before killing the Luca. And I find it very unlikely two separate mafias would attack a Don.

And while Louis is untrustworthy, he's not going to be doing much killing with any other mafias, I think.

We need to remember who the killers are, and lynch so as to prevent mafia murders.

so vote: Zorg

select: Jimbob

Edit: tally
Lynch votes:
Loius - 3 (JimBob, TruePraetorian, Sasaki)
Sasaki - 1 (Andres)
Prole - 2 (Scottishranger, Caius)
Zorg - 1 (Rabbit)

Director Selection:
Sasaki - 3 (TinCow, Scottishranger, Sasaki)
JimBob - 4 (JimBob, Haudegen, Charge, Rabbit)
TruePraetorian - 1 (TruePraetorian)
Caius - 1 (Caius)
Kagemusha - 1 (Kage)

Hey man, Zorg is dead, just letting you know.

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Originally Posted by Kommodus

This appears to be irrespective of the "accuracy" of the investigation; you'll notice how FBI detectives get more accurate results than regular detectives (though still not perfectly accurate). I must be one of those unlucky townies who shows up as "criminal." It isn't relevant how many times I get investigated.

Anyway, this will become obvious in a few days after my post-mortem, so it's pointless to debate this further.

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'criminal' result twicely eh? You actually should be made or luca of one of the families, especially with that write-up (townie with .38 snub-nose equalized gun and sported a sturdy bulletproof vest under his coat!?? ~:eek: ) .

Prole also leaded charge against Sasaki ~;)

Who was real attackers in her 2nd murder-attempt? Stracchi (...you said you going to leave game with respect didnt you? :inquisitive:) or weather balloon-ers (who had 3 kills yesterday now only 2) ?

ie how much mafia can change write-up into own?

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Originally Posted by scottishranger

Hey man, Zorg is dead, just letting you know.

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Ah, right.

unvote: zorg
vote:xdeathfire

I appreciate the useful information in Louis' reveal, and the opportunity it gives us to take out the Stracchi family. However, it's clear based on Louis' original attempt to keep Andres safe and the delay between his reveal and his evidence that he had wicked intentions. If Andres had gone along with it, he might have even gotten away with it. Deviously well played, Louis; however, as Kommodus pointed out, it seems you are already a Stracchi made gangster, so you must die.

vote: Louis

I'm not 100% trusting of JimBob, at least not till Glenn's post-mortem comes through, but their story is weird enough I want to believe it and IIRC he came up innocent when suspected of being Glenn's luca.

So for now, select: Jimbob (I'll post tallies in a separate post once I have a chance to go back and make sure of them)

I want to trust Sasaki as well, but there's one big question I have for him. He admitted his investigation source was a made. He seems unwilling to reveal his source's name, and for now I'll let that go. However, why was a made willing to share investigation results with you, Sasaki? It would make sense if you were part of the family, but I'm pretty sure you're not claiming that, so how did you come to receive the information. Is your source still amenable to passing on more information to you? If so, why?

On to the current mafia summary. So according to the invitation made through TosaInu, we have the names of our 5 mafia families:

--Stracchi. Don: Omanes A. (dead), Luca: Dutch Guy, Made: Andres, Made: LouisVI, associated wise guy of uncertain identity (Louis claims Tran, Andres claims not Tran). Calling Card: Pink ballet slippers. Victims: Drisos (detective, N1), Pannonian (claims wise guy, N3), attempted hits on GH (N2, N3) and Proletariat (N4, possible Don).

--Corleone. Don: Unknown, Luca: Unknown, Made: Tiberius of the Drake (dead), several unknown associated wise guys. Calling Card: Weather balloons and religious paraphernalia. Victims: Glenn (N3, claims 'crusader' of sorts), Beefy (N3, possible Don), The Stranger (N3), GH (N4), attempted hits on Glenn (N2) and Proletariat (N4, possible Don).

--Tataglia.

--Barzini.

--Cunnio.

One of the above 3 is likely the yellow rose group. Don: Unknown, Luca: Unknown, Made: Unknown, associated wise guys if any unknown. Calling Card: Yellow rose. Victims: Zorg (N3), Moros (N4, possible detective), possible attempted hit on Proletariat (N4).

The Stracchi are pretty much done for, but individual members still need to be killed off (Dutch Guy, Andres, Louis). The Corleones are very troubling, managing 3 successful hits the third night (so a minimum of 4 wise guys, 5 if the luca was protecting the don), and working to arrange cooperation between the families.

The Tataglia have responded to the Corleones' call for truce, according to TosaInu's second relayed communication.

Omanes suspected Sigurd to be the don of the Barzinis.

I have no definite information so far on the Cunnios (inactive members? yellow rose group? otherwise keeping a low profile?).

Ajax

edit: whoops, I guess the Corleones have a minimum of 5 associated wise guys, since they lost Tiberius. Scary.

Select: Husar

Vote: xdeathfire

Well, he is a proven mafiosi or wannabe, vote and selection are subject to change(no, not by editing...), however.

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I want to trust Sasaki as well, but there's one big question I have for him. He admitted his investigation source was a made. He seems unwilling to reveal his source's name, and for now I'll let that go. However, why was a made willing to share investigation results with you, Sasaki? It would make sense if you were part of the family, but I'm pretty sure you're not claiming that, so how did you come to receive the information. Is your source still amenable to passing on more information to you? If so, why?

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He was willing to share the results with me because he knows I won't reveal him. I'm not part of the family I am a townie. It's up to him whether he passes on information or not.

Vote:Louis

Select:Ichigo

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Originally Posted by LouisPM

Hello Ichigo


I hear that you contacted the Stracchi's last night. What was that all about?

Were you hoping to recruit, to have them make a kill one last time?

Did you recruit their wiseguy?

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I didn't contact the Stracchi's last night. Whoever gave you that info is wrong.

Capotally as of post #1783

Lynching
LouisVI: 4 (JimBob, TruePraetorian, Sasaki, ajaxfetish)
Proletariat: 2 (scottishranger, Caius)
xdeathfire: 2 (CR, Husar)
Sasaki: 1 (Andres)

Abstain: 2 (Kagemusha, Haudegen)

Not Voting: 48

Directorial Election
JimBob: 5 (JimBob, Haudegen, Charge, CR, ajaxfetish)
Sasaki: 3 (TinCow, scottishranger, Sasaki)
Kagemusha: 1 (Kagemusha)
TruePraetorian: 1 (TruePraetorian)
Caius: 1 (Caius)
Husar: 1 (Husar)

Not Selecting: 47

Changes
TruePraetorian (vote:abstain to vote:Louis)
CR (vote:Zorg[dead] to vote:xdeathfire)

Capotally as of post #1785

Lynching
LouisVI: 5 (JimBob, TruePraetorian, Sasaki, ajaxfetish, Ichigo)
Proletariat: 2 (scottishranger, Caius)
xdeathfire: 2 (CR, Husar)
Sasaki: 1 (Andres)

Abstain: 2 (Kagemusha, Haudegen)

Not Voting: 48

Directorial Election
JimBob: 5 (JimBob, Haudegen, Charge, CR, ajaxfetish)
Sasaki: 3 (TinCow, scottishranger, Sasaki)
Kagemusha: 1 (Kagemusha)
TruePraetorian: 1 (TruePraetorian)
Caius: 1 (Caius)
Husar: 1 (Husar)
Ichigo: 1 (Ichigo)

Not Selecting: 47

Changes
TruePraetorian (vote:abstain to vote:Louis)
CR (vote:Zorg[dead] to vote:xdeathfire)

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updated to include Ichigo's votes

Unvote: xdeathfire
Vote: Louis

Nice try buddy, but your evil plans didn't really work out. ~;p

Looks like everyone finally agrees on Louis. I appove of this, so I'll commit myself.

Vote: Louis VI the Fat.

Capotally as of post #1788

Lynching
LouisVI: 7 (JimBob, TruePraetorian, Sasaki, ajaxfetish, Ichigo, Husar, TinCow)
Proletariat: 2 (scottishranger, Caius)
xdeathfire: 1 (CR)
Sasaki: 1 (Andres)

Abstain: 2 (Kagemusha, Haudegen)

Not Voting: 48

Directorial Election
JimBob: 5 (JimBob, Haudegen, Charge, CR, ajaxfetish)
Sasaki: 3 (TinCow, scottishranger, Sasaki)
Kagemusha: 1 (Kagemusha)
TruePraetorian: 1 (TruePraetorian)
Caius: 1 (Caius)
Husar: 1 (Husar)
Ichigo: 1 (Ichigo)

Not Selecting: 47

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Originally Posted by TinCow

Uh, GH is dead.

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Sorry - I didn't read the write-up fully ~:(

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

I didn't contact the Stracchi's last night. Whoever gave you that info is wrong.

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I can confirm that Ichigo has had no two way contact with the Stracchi family while I was in charge. You can see this from our discussion topic's posts which Louis has managed to salvage. We planned to recruit him after hearing he was a wise guy, but I'm doubtful as to whether Andres got round to PMing him or not. If he did there certainly wasn't a reply.

The cooperation isn't working with trying a double lynch. Lets go with what we know and have been talking about to do and not get diverted.

Vote: Louis VI the Fat.

For director there appears to be some good candidates but he seems to be one us.

Select: JimBob

Capotally as of post #1790

Lynching
LouisVI: 8 (JimBob, TruePraetorian, Sasaki, ajaxfetish, Ichigo, Husar, TinCow,NN)
Proletariat: 2 (scottishranger, Caius)
xdeathfire: 1 (CR)
Sasaki: 1 (Andres)

Abstain: 2 (Kagemusha, Haudegen)

Not Voting: 46

Directorial Election
JimBob: 6 (JimBob, Haudegen, Charge, CR, ajaxfetish,NN)
Sasaki: 3 (TinCow, scottishranger, Sasaki)
Kagemusha: 1 (Kagemusha)
TruePraetorian: 1 (TruePraetorian)
Caius: 1 (Caius)
Husar: 1 (Husar)
Ichigo: 1 (Ichigo)

Not Selecting: 45

Vote Louis

Although I still think Prol is very suspicious

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Originally Posted by scottishranger

Vote Louis

Although I still think Prol is very suspicious

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Remember to follow the format, scottishranger. You first need to unvote Proletariat before voting for Louis. Otherwise you risk messing up the tally and drawing suspicion to yourself. Also, it's nice to include the colon after the word vote.

Ajax

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Originally Posted by ajaxfetish

Remember to follow the format, scottishranger. You first need to unvote Proletariat before voting for Louis. Otherwise you risk messing up the tally and drawing suspicion to yourself. Also, it's nice to include the colon after the word vote.

Ajax

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Gah you people and your format.
:shame:

Unvote: Prol
Vote: Louis

Lynching
LouisVI: 9 (JimBob, TruePraetorian, Sasaki, ajaxfetish, Ichigo, Husar, TinCow,NN, scot)
Proletariat: 1 (Cauis)
xdeathfire: 1 (CR)
Sasaki: 1 (Andres)

Abstain: 2 (Kagemusha, Haudegen)

Not Voting: 46

Directorial Election
JimBob: 6 (JimBob, Haudegen, Charge, CR, ajaxfetish,NN)
Sasaki: 3 (TinCow, scottishranger, Sasaki)
Kagemusha: 1 (Kagemusha)
TruePraetorian: 1 (TruePraetorian)
Caius: 1 (Caius)
Husar: 1 (Husar)
Ichigo: 1 (Ichigo)

Not Selecting: 45

Don't forget to bold 'em.

:grin:

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Don't forget to bold 'em.

:grin:

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Beat me to it!

I shall Vote: Louis. As has been said by so many, he would probably not go for the multi-lynch option if he has the choice, and would certainly not lynch himself if given the option.

For director I still don't trust JimBob until we get information on Glenn. So, in the interests of NOT selecting JimBob, I shall Select: Sasaki

Lynching
LouisVI: 10 (JimBob, TruePraetorian, Sasaki, ajaxfetish, Ichigo, Husar, TinCow,NN, scot, CountArach)
Proletariat: 1 (Cauis)
xdeathfire: 1 (CR)
Sasaki: 1 (Andres)

Abstain: 2 (Kagemusha, Haudegen)

Not Voting: 45

Directorial Election
JimBob: 6 (JimBob, Haudegen, Charge, CR, ajaxfetish,NN)
Sasaki: 4 (TinCow, scottishranger, Sasaki, CountArach)
Kagemusha: 1 (Kagemusha)
TruePraetorian: 1 (TruePraetorian)
Caius: 1 (Caius)
Husar: 1 (Husar)
Ichigo: 1 (Ichigo)

Not Selecting: 44

Three confessing mafia members are still on the loose. Yet, some townies want to lynch the guy who exposed them to the town.

I demand that this behaviour be given an entry in the f.a.q.: 'To vote a Louis - when a townie in full knowledge of the identity of multiple confessing mafiosi votes to kill the person who exposed them'. Monumental stupidity deserves it's own name.

Thanks.



Select: Louis. I promised the goods, and I delivered. My new campaign promise: to provide you with at least six names from Sasaki's Don Corleone balloon family before my new term is over. ~;)


:balloon2: :balloon: :balloon3: :balloon2: :balloon: :balloon3: :rifle:

I CAN NOT BE A MADE. PAY ATTENTION PEOPLE.

I needed three kills for this. So I would've needed to kill on n2 as well. On n2, only Lordwinter was killed. He was killed by a single killer. Ergo: not me. :idea2:

I could not have made my two mafia group kills as a wiseguy if I had a lone killer power. And if I had single killer power I could not have made my two wiseguy kills. :smash:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Lord Winter was cagey – walking home to his apartment via the boardwalk so that he could be sure there were plenty of people around. It would not be enough. A section of boards collapsed beneath him dumping him onto the sand below where a masked figure clubbed him into unconsciousness.

He was injected with a lethal dose of heroin shortly thereafter – mostly to keep him unconscious as he faded out. He was tied, gagged and given a heavy set of cement boots – actually a galvanized tub filled with drying cement – and dropped into 20 feet of water at the end of the pier. He was, fortunately, dead from the overdose before he slipped under the water. His remains would never be found – except by the crabs.

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Originally Posted by Seamus' write-up

Proletariat noticed that the balloon had been deflated with a shotgun just before it would have yanked her upright to her death. She couldn’t make much sense of what was written on the balloon – “ncetnoni”

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I can make sense of it: I-n-n-o-c-e-n-t.

This, as the veterans here remember, has been the signature of Sasaki for over a year.

W..wait! D..did I just say Sasaki? :beam:

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Originally Posted by Kommodus

Regarding this:



That's not how the rules read.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Seamus, from the rules

Most Townies will appear as “innocent” if investigated by a detective, though 1 in 6-8 will appear “criminal” despite their innocence.

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This appears to be irrespective of the "accuracy" of the investigation; you'll notice how FBI detectives get more accurate results than regular detectives (though still not perfectly accurate). I must be one of those unlucky townies who shows up as "criminal." It isn't relevant how many times I get investigated.

Anyway, this will become obvious in a few days after my post-mortem, so it's pointless to debate this further.

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Wait, you are right! :idea2:

So, this means that 1 in 6 people who show up as innocent are really not innocent at all? Sasaki, you lucky *******! :whip:

So that's how you have been able to fool everybody.

Vote: Sasaki

Vote doesn't coun't. Just calling attention to Don Corleone Sasaki.
Thanks, Seamus, for that clever little clue. :2thumbsup:

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I promised the goods, and I delivered. My new campaign promise: to provide you with at least six names from Sasaki's Don Corleone balloon family before my new term is over.

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Just like how I was in that family too, huh?

It's a nice try, Louis. Really, it is. But shut up now. :yes:

So confused...

:dizzy2:

Vote: Sasaki for now, but what I dont get is, why would he put his own tag in the kills?

Select Jimbob

Actually, I was wrong three posts above. The balloon with innocent on it is from the yellow rose mafia.

In the interest of proper mafia hunting, this needed to be said. Gah.

*resumes mafia hunting*


Edit:
*cough* Andres, Dutch_Guy and Tran are still alive *cough*
Nobody interested in hanging self-professed mafia? I mean, I take it as a great compliment of course that the town is so scared of me that they would rather hang an incapacitated Louis than a functioning mafia group, but, uh, really...

Werent the Stracchi leaving the town??

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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

Actually, I was wrong three posts above. The balloon with innocent on it is from the yellow rose mafia.

In the interest of proper mafia hunting, this needed to be said. Gah.

*resumes mafia hunting*


Edit:
*cough* Andres, Dutch_Guy and Tran are still alive *cough*
Nobody interested in hanging self-professed mafia? I mean, I take it as a great compliment of course that the town is so scared of me that they would rather hang an incapacitated Louis than a functioning mafia group, but, uh, really...

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You promised they would be taken care of...
Why are they still alive again?

Vote: Andres


Select: Jimbob

Lynching
LouisVI: 10 (JimBob, TruePraetorian, Sasaki, ajaxfetish, Ichigo, Husar, TinCow,NN, scot, CountArach)
Proletariat: 1 (Cauis)
xdeathfire: 1 (CR)
Sasaki: 2 (Andres,shlin28)
Andres: 1 (LtPinard)

Abstain: 2 (Kagemusha, Haudegen)

Not Voting: 45

Directorial Election
JimBob: 8 (JimBob, Haudegen, Charge, CR, ajaxfetish,NN LtPinard,shlin28)
Sasaki: 4 (TinCow, scottishranger, Sasaki, CountArach)
Kagemusha: 1 (Kagemusha)
TruePraetorian: 1 (TruePraetorian)
Caius: 1 (Caius)
Husar: 1 (Husar)
Ichigo: 1 (Ichigo)
Louis : 1 (Louis )

Not Selecting: 44


I think that's right......:undecided:

Hello Lt. Pinard, how are you? What are your thoughts in the game?

Trying to save yourself eh, Louis? :cheesy: You can put up all that propaganda, but game's over for you.

Vote: Louis VI the Fat

As for Director, I will select one person that I can trust (beside myself):

Select: Tincow

Lynching
LouisVI: 11 (JimBob, TruePraetorian, Sasaki, ajaxfetish, Ichigo, Husar, TinCow,NN, scot, CountArach, Tran)
Proletariat: 1 (Cauis)
xdeathfire: 1 (CR)
Sasaki: 2 (Andres,shlin28)
Andres: 1 (LtPinard)

Abstain: 2 (Kagemusha, Haudegen)


Directorial Election
JimBob: 8 (JimBob, Haudegen, Charge, CR, ajaxfetish,NN LtPinard,shlin28)
Sasaki: 4 (TinCow, scottishranger, Sasaki, CountArach)
Kagemusha: 1 (Kagemusha)
TruePraetorian: 1 (TruePraetorian)
Caius: 1 (Caius)
Husar: 1 (Husar)
Ichigo: 1 (Ichigo)
Louis : 1 (Louis )
Tincow: 1 (Tran)

vote: abstain Louis is a foregone conclusion anyway.

select: Craterus I've resisted not voting for myself so far but we don't seem to have had much luck in our previous directors so... ~:)

Tally

Lynching
LouisVI: 11 (JimBob, TruePraetorian, Sasaki, ajaxfetish, Ichigo, Husar, TinCow,NN, scot, CountArach, Tran)
Proletariat: 1 (Cauis)
xdeathfire: 1 (CR)
Sasaki: 2 (Andres,shlin28)
Andres: 1 (LtPinard)

Abstain: 3 (Kagemusha, Haudegen, Craterus)


Directorial Election
JimBob: 8 (JimBob, Haudegen, Charge, CR, ajaxfetish,NN LtPinard,shlin28)
Sasaki: 4 (TinCow, scottishranger, Sasaki, CountArach)
Kagemusha: 1 (Kagemusha)
TruePraetorian: 1 (TruePraetorian)
Caius: 1 (Caius)
Husar: 1 (Husar)
Ichigo: 1 (Ichigo)
Louis : 1 (Louis )
Tincow: 1 (Tran)
Craterus: 1 (Craterus)

Sack:Caius
Vote:TinCow
I do not trust JimBob at all. I think he will do something better for the town.

Lynching
LouisVI: 11 (JimBob, TruePraetorian, Sasaki, ajaxfetish, Ichigo, Husar, TinCow,NN, scot, CountArach, Tran)
Proletariat: 1 (Cauis)
xdeathfire: 1 (CR)
Sasaki: 2 (Andres,shlin28)
Andres: 1 (LtPinard)

Abstain: 2 (Kagemusha, Haudegen)


Directorial Election
JimBob: 8 (JimBob, Haudegen, Charge, CR, ajaxfetish,NN LtPinard,shlin28)
Sasaki: 4 (TinCow, scottishranger, Sasaki, CountArach)
Kagemusha: 1 (Kagemusha)
TruePraetorian: 1 (TruePraetorian)
Husar: 1 (Husar)
Ichigo: 1 (Ichigo)
Louis : 1 (Louis )
Tincow: 2 (Tran, Caius)

vote: present

I support Louis for the lynch but he seems to be well ahead in votes so I'll reserve my vote in case something else comes up.

select: Jimbob

Since Seamus is gonna kill me if i edit my vote, It was Select:Tincow and not Vote:Tincow as stated before.

Lynch Abstain
Select LittleGrizzly

Caius, I think that you meant to Select tincow instead of voting for him.

Upon reflection, I will sack Jimbob ; Select Tincow

Just to be sure.

I am Selecting:TinCow. Unvote:TinCow Vote:Abstain

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Originally Posted by woad&fangs

vote: present

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WTH is that? Can you explain that to me? :furious3:
If you want to Abstain then write Abstain and not present! :furious3:

I didn't see any presents around here, did you? Do I look like a christmas tree or what? Don't mess with me buddy! :furious3:

I have lost trakc of the game. Sorry everyone But am I still alive?

Having fun with your drink again, Husar? :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Having fun with your drink again, Husar? :laugh4:

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:laugh4:

Sorry, I'm not an alcoholic. I'm perfectly sober but I always say that doesn't stop me from behaving drunk. ~D

Well then, to give a perfectly sober person a perfectly legit response, "Present" is a perfectly acceptable vote, as per Seamus's perfectly official first post in the rules thread.

Generally, "Present" means I think, that you're here and you'll most likely change your vote later on.

Select: Jimbob
Pro-townie, I'm sorry I ever doubted your group, all three of you.

Seamus likes adding special roles/abilities, and I can confirm that GH was infact a wiseguy.

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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

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Originally Posted by Rythmic

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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

In Red.

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I would like [words deleted at host request] information on Pannonian.

I know you have been busy, but I'd just like to remind you I asked for information on GeneralHankerchief on D2 for D3. I apologise if I'm being pushy.

Thanks, Rythmic.

P.S: Great write ups.

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Sorry, this special ability is a one time only.

I am sorry I didn't respond about GH.

[Words deleted at host request] he's a wiseguy -- but as far as anyone knows he wasn't affiliated with a family.

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As far as voting goes I'm torn between the obvious vote of Louis and GH's original suspect Ichigo. But...

Vote: Ichigo

Appreciate the confirmation, Rythmic.

However, after having read the Fimbulwinter thread, it appears that Ichigo's adjustment in playing style (my main suspicion) was a conscious decision undertaken by him.

He's still way too inactive, but I don't suspect him as much as I used to.

I don't know...
Do you think Louis would lynch a tie with the remaining Stracchis?

Vote:Andres
He is confirmed mafioso and will be running around killing with his buddies in the remaining Stracchi family.
They would need two Mades for each kill right?
We should atleast remove one.

(bedtime)

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Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites

Sorry - I didn't read the write-up fully ~:(I can confirm that Ichigo has had no two way contact with the Stracchi family while I was in charge. You can see this from our discussion topic's posts which Louis has managed to salvage. We planned to recruit him after hearing he was a wise guy, but I'm doubtful as to whether Andres got round to PMing him or not. If he did there certainly wasn't a reply.

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I was indeed contacted by Andres, but I never responded. Even if I had wanted too Louis had already revealed the family and destroyed it. PM:

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Hello,

I'm a Made gangster operating for one of the five families involved in this game.

I know you are a Wiseguy. Our family has opportunities for you.

If you wish to join us, the family will ask you to kill together with another wiseguy. After three succesful kills, you will have the opportunity to become a Made Gangster and you'll be part of our family.

Please, accept this offer.

Ciao,

Andres.

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Originally Posted by Rythmic

Select: Jimbob
Pro-townie, I'm sorry I ever doubted your group, all three of you.

Seamus likes adding special roles/abilities, and I can confirm that GH was infact a wiseguy.

As far as voting goes I'm torn between the obvious vote of Louis and GH's original suspect Ichigo. But...

Vote: Ichigo

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I'm not sure why you're suspicious of me so I can't say much about it. I haven't seen GH's accusations against me so I can't address them.

Lynching
LouisVI: 12 (JimBob, TruePraetorian, Sasaki, ajaxfetish, Ichigo, Husar, TinCow,NN, scot, CountArach, Tran)
Proletariat: 1 (Cauis)
xdeathfire: 1 (CR)
Sasaki: 2 (Andres,shlin28)
Andres: 2 (LtPinard, Signurd)
Ichigo: 1 (Rythmic)
Present: 1 (Woad&Fangs)

Abstain: 2 (Kagemusha, Haudegen, LittleGrizzly)


Directorial Election
JimBob: 9 (JimBob, Haudegen, Charge, CR, ajaxfetish,NN LtPinard,shlin28, Rythmic)
Sasaki: 4 (TinCow, scottishranger, Sasaki, CountArach)
Kagemusha: 1 (Kagemusha)
TruePraetorian: 1 (TruePraetorian)
Husar: 1 (Husar)
Ichigo: 1 (Ichigo)
Louis : 1 (Louis )
Tincow: 3 (Tran, Caius, W&F)
LittleGrizzly: 1 (LittleGrizzly)


Just updating the tally.

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Originally Posted by Tran

As for Director, I will select one person that I can trust (beside myself):

Select: Tincow

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How do you know you can trust him? Is he your buddy?

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Tincow: 2 (Tran, Caius, W&F)

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Someone go back to this early days in school! :P

Correct the error.

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Originally Posted by GH

However, after having read the Fimbulwinter thread, it appears that Ichigo's adjustment in playing style (my main suspicion) was a conscious decision undertaken by him.

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I see, in that case.

Unvote: Ichigo
Vote: Andres

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Originally Posted by Caius

Since Seamus is gonna kill me if i edit my vote, It was Select:Tincow and not Vote:Tincow as stated before.

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Thank you. You are spared.


Note: I'll try hold to my deadline and writeup as smoothly as possible, but it is again the weekend and family responsibilities can get in the way of the "important" stuff like capo.

Ignorant newbie question (this is my 2nd game): You guys are pretty sure the town can effectively lynch a Director while he's still in-office?

If the town successfully votes to lynch 2 or more people, the Director can direct the death(s) of 1, both, or none, if I read Seamus's decision correctly. Ergo, can not a Director whom the town votes to lynch simply ignore the mandate and kill no one?

So, are we wasting votes and opportunities to lynch other known anti-town bad guys by voting for a Director who can nullify the vote?

I'm unclear on this. I think Louis' demise can wait until he's no longer Director (Day 6 & 7).

Sorry to clog up the voting this way; I'd just hate to have a big townie suprise when Seamus writes up the end-of-day-5 summary, and the highest vote-getter doesn't die.

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Originally Posted by KukriKhan

Ignorant newbie question (this is my 2nd game): You guys are pretty sure the town can effectively lynch a Director while he's still in-office?

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Seamus had confirmed this when we asked earlier. We are able to kill the Director. If only 1 person is selected then the Director cannot ignore the mandate, regardless of what they want.

From all the evidence before and his actions now, I'm going to have to Vote:Louis

And Select:Sasaki

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Originally Posted by CountArach

Seamus had confirmed this when we asked earlier. We are able to kill the Director. If only 1 person is selected then the Director cannot ignore the mandate, regardless of what they want.

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OK, then... nevermind. :)

Still it seems incongruent that the Director could disregard a multi-lynch mandate, but not a single-lynch one. Should be one hella dramatic write-up.

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Originally Posted by KukriKhan

OK, then... nevermind. :)

Still it seems incongruent that the Director could disregard a multi-lynch mandate, but not a single-lynch one. Should be one hella dramatic write-up.

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Last game, Sasaki was lynched pretty decisively while he was sitting director.

He requested that he die being run over by a bandwagon. :laugh4:

Lol @GH. Killing sasaki in a game by a bandwagon, i been working all day 17 hours and that wone makes me laugh :P

Anyways Things are starting to get interesting, I have just about managed to keep reasonably up to date with the thread even when I was away in Liverpool. I only missed one vote and that was due to not being able to make it home in time.

I Select: Jimbob for director and actually when Jimbob serves his two terms I think that Tincow is also defintly townie. So it would be a good Idea to elect Tincow and try and keep him alive for the next two turns. I think everyone is fairly confident he is innocent.

Vote:Louis I think that the whole episode just stinks.

Joe

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Last game, Sasaki was lynched pretty decisively while he was sitting director.

He requested that he die being run over by a bandwagon. :laugh4:

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LoL, I'm sorry to have missed that. :laugh4: (no offense, Sasaki.

OK then, using ajaxfetish's brilliant summary of what (little) we know about mafia families in post 1781,

select: JimBob
vote: Andres

the fewer killers running around, the better for us all, and I strongly suspect he (Andres) is behind the mafia clan-meeting - something that can't be good for the town.

And I'd give Louis another day or 2 to live for the important info he's provided. OK, call me a 'bleeding heart', but the only folks who really hate him now are the mafiosi he's betrayed. His mistake was playing too many sides against the middle, IMO, so got caught earlier than he expected. In my country, he'd be in the Witness Protection Program, not on death row.

I'll add-in a capo-tally, when I find an accurate previous one to update.

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Originally Posted by KukriKhan

And I'd give Louis another day or 2 to live for the important info he's provided. OK, call me a 'bleeding heart', but the only folks who really hate him now are the mafiosi he's betrayed. His mistake was playing too many sides against the middle, IMO, so got caught earlier than he expected. In my country, he'd be in the Witness Protection Program, not on death row.

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Maybe, Maybe Not. He might be accused of withholding information too given that He was trying to hide Andres. There is suspicion that he is a made gangster and the parallel is betraying some criminals to move into their territory. My vote to lynch him stands.

Joe

I´m in favor of the idea of a multi lynch today because we have more than enough suspects. It requires the cooperation of Louis, but I see no reason why he wouldn´t approve the lynching of three guys who have sworn revenge to him. Though I agree that Louis isn´t trustworthy in other aspects.

Louis, what´s your case against Sasaki? And don´t tell me that you don´t want to compromise your ongoing investigations. It´s obvious that no mafia don with half a brain would share his secrets with you now.

Anyway I recommend the town to create a tie between Andres and Dutch_guy. Removing two mafiosi is worth more than Louis´ head right now.

unvote: abstain
vote: Dutch_guy

Tally, for my own safety in a separate posting:

Lynching
LouisVI: 13 (JimBob, TruePraetorian, Sasaki, ajaxfetish, Ichigo, Husar, TinCow,NN, scot, CountArach, Tran, Sarathos, Joe Monks)
Proletariat: 1 (Cauis)
xdeathfire: 1 (CR)
Sasaki: 2 (Andres,shlin28)
Andres: 4 (LtPinard, Signurd, Rythmic, KukirKhan)
Dutch_guy 1 (Haudegen)

Abstain: 2 (Kagemusha, LittleGrizzly)


Directorial Election
JimBob: 11 (JimBob, Haudegen, Charge, CR, ajaxfetish,NN LtPinard,shlin28, Rythmic, Joe Monks, KukriKhan)
Sasaki: 5 (TinCow, scottishranger, Sasaki, CountArach, Sarathos)
Kagemusha: 1 (Kagemusha)
TruePraetorian: 1 (TruePraetorian)
Husar: 1 (Husar)
Ichigo: 1 (Ichigo)
Louis : 1 (Louis )
Tincow: 3 (Tran, Caius, W&F)
LittleGrizzly: 1 (LittleGrizzly)

Vote:Andres - he seems more of a risk than Louis who as everyone said no-one will trust now anyway. Am also unsure if the offer for the revealed family to leave the game was that genuine, and not just a ploy to get us to forget about them.

Note I am not proposing aiming for that as a double lynch - I think double lynch would be seriously bad idea as Louis looks untrustworthy enough to think of some dubious excuse to let everyone off!


Select:JimBob - not 100% sure about anyone yet but he looks one of the most convincingly pro-town roles

will put tally in next post to avoid editing

Capo Tally - post 1840

Lynching
LouisVI: 13 (JimBob, TruePraetorian, Sasaki, ajaxfetish, Ichigo, Husar, TinCow,NN, scot, CountArach, Tran, Sarathos, Joe Monks)
Proletariat: 1 (Cauis)
xdeathfire: 1 (CR)
Sasaki: 2 (Andres,shlin28)
Andres: 5 (LtPinard, Signurd, Rythmic, KukirKhan, Mak)
Dutch_guy 1 (Haudegen)

Abstain: 3 (Kagemusha, LittleGrizzly, Craterus)


Directorial Election
JimBob: 12 (JimBob, Haudegen, Charge, CR, ajaxfetish,NN LtPinard,shlin28, Rythmic, Joe Monks, KukriKhan, Mak)
Sasaki: 5 (TinCow, scottishranger, Sasaki, CountArach, Sarathos)
Kagemusha: 1 (Kagemusha)
TruePraetorian: 1 (TruePraetorian)
Husar: 1 (Husar)
Ichigo: 1 (Ichigo)
Louis : 1 (Louis )
Tincow: 3 (Tran, Caius, W&F)
LittleGrizzly: 1 (LittleGrizzly)
Craterus: 1 (Craterus)


Fixed tally to re-included Craterus who got lost somewhere!

Also CAIUS you need to confirm what your vote is in sorting out the select/vote mess you said vote:Abstain, but you're still down as vote:Prole - which you probably meant....