Netherworld Mafia [Concluded]

Lucifer was indeed the father of lies and we should take everthing pever says with a pinch of salt. This is like the role I had for Reeink Roink in Midgard saga where he played Loke, the Norse God of tricks.

Like anyone would hold good the things Loke said...
8 players left? not a chance, he will gain the power and use it if he survives this lynch.
The question would be: will he use it in the interest of the town? And the question of who provided the mafia with the names of Northnovas and FactionHeir has not been answered... and he did attack Banana Bob and killed Andres.

I attacked Banana Bob as he had the second most votes, I wanted to create that illusion.

I hadnt seen any proof Andres was innocent besides other people telling me that he was, and he was annoying me.

EDIT: I'll make a deal. Let me live this night and let me kill Sarathos, and i will prevent the remaining multitude of mafia from killing anyone tonight, then reveal them tomorrow and be wogged or i will suicide or be lynched. Thats all i ask.

How exactly did I annoy you pevergreen?

Lynch pever, kill Mak tonight, then take care of woad&fangs (pever can't attack mafia at this stage, yet he wants to attack Sarathos next night ergo Sarathos is not mafia?)

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Originally Posted by Andres

Do you know if someone bothered to investigate you?

EDIT: To TC and the other participants in the "townie network": if I was a confirmed innocent, then why was I not granted acces to your discussion forum?

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Andres when I contacted you it wasn't confirm and I was waiting for this day phase to ask the network.

For the record I made no deal with the devil and didn't invite pevergreen to the network.:laugh4:

I say, lynch Makanyane, and see what happens with Pever's promises for the night. Meanwhile TC can use his kill ability on whoever town decides to be the third most suspicious person.

Oh and EF and BananaBob, just an idea, either of you protect TinCow, and the other of you protect that first doctor. Do this just between the two of you so the mafia mole will not know which one of you will be protected.

I think it sounds fair to lynch someone we cannot control rather than one we can.
We can control pever, so he might try to kill mafia or not kill at all tonight, which is better than lynching him and losing another townie.

In that light, some unvotes please?

Vote: Mak

makanye seems like the better lynch

I think it's fair to give Pever another night, provided he tries to kill Sarathos, if he fails and dies trying then we don't have to lynch him(and we will know that Sarathos is mafia) and can lynch Sarathos tomorrow, also we did give Tincow another chance, if Pevergreen succeeds in his mission then we can lynch him tomorrow, so vote Mak
Also, it seems I was wrong to suspect you Tincow.

We should definitely not give pever any more time, because by his own admission the only people he can kill are townies. He says trying to kill a mafia will WoG him, so if he attacks a mafia he will die and the mafia will not. In addition, he claims he cannot give us any more information until there are 8 or fewer players left. That means that by his own statements, pever can only kill townies from now until near the end of the game. I cannot imagine any situation in which that would be acceptable. If you let pever off tonight, at a minimum he will kill another townie and he could possibly do even worse if he has access to a new ability. The only other possibility is that pever will voluntarily get himself WoGed. If he didn't mind dying, then he would just let himself be lynched right now. He wants to live, so he won't get himself WoGed.

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As a simple townsdemon trying to make an honest unliving I have no freaking idea what this pro-town network is, so

FoS: Pro-town Network
Vote: Abstain
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Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre

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As a simple townsdemon trying to make an honest unliving I have no freaking idea what this pro-town network is, so

FoS: Pro-town Network
Vote: Abstain
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The network was set up to let the townies formulate some planning without the mafia knowing. Otherwise everything would be in the thread.

Right, as a hoster I have a problem with anything that's game-breaking, no matter the result. The first goal of any mafia game is to make it enjoyable, the second is a victory for your side. We should all play fair, but go crazy within the confines of fair play.

That said, I'm not unvoting pevergreen. Frankly, he's pulled off this kind of thing way too often in the past and I don't trust him one bit. Keep him alive, there's the chance he could defect and seriously screw the town over. Kill him off, keep protection on TinCow while he vigs the remaining suspects in coordination with our lynch efforts.

if Sarathos is mafia and pever cannot kill mafia then why is he claiming to kill sarathos tonight. Surely that means Sarathos cannot be mafia. He also stated that sarathos is in the same post that he said he cannot reveal the mafia to anyone, or he will be WoGed. This doesn't add up and no-one else in the pro-town network was not confirmed. I wondered why you had been let in when I first saw the thread.

vote:pevergreen

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Originally Posted by Northnovas

The network was set up to let the townies formulate some planning without the mafia knowing. Otherwise everything would be in the thread.

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But that means the power-town control what the townies would do, without consulting them, leaving a significant amount of townies with nothing to do...

I (ghost) DEMAND A DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM FOR TOWNS-DEMONS TO CO-ORDINATE THE TOWNIE EFFORT!

I think it's pretty obvious that we can't trust pever. He killed Andres because he was annoying him. He could kill anyone else next, so I think he needs to go.

Vote:pever

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But that means the power-town control what the townies would do, without consulting them, leaving a significant amount of townies with nothing to do...

I (ghost) DEMAND A DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM FOR TOWNS-DEMONS TO CO-ORDINATE THE TOWNIE EFFORT!

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They can vote...

ATTENTION ALL:

PEVERGREEN IS, AS OF NOW, WOG'D FROM THIS GAME AND BANNED FROM ANY AND ALL OF MY FUTURE GAMES UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE, FOR VIOLATION OF RULES AND CONDUCT WHICH I HAD OUTLINED TO HIM. ALL VOTES FOR PEVERGREEN ARE HEREBY DECLARED NULL AND VOID, AND WOULD IT WOULD BE WISE TO REASSIGN THEM ELSEWHERE.

In that case, I'll just

Vote: Abstain

for the moment, while I try to absorb this.

I was just reading this trying to work out where all claims were coming from and thought I was getting somewhere figuring it out.... but host now seems to be doing his best to incriminate me too...

Can I point out to my fellow demons that just because pevergreen has apparently been a naughty boy in some respect or other, that doesn't make his 'reveal' true!

Unvote:pevergreen Vote:Makanyane

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Originally Posted by Makanyane

I was just reading this trying to work out where all claims were coming from and thought I was getting somewhere figuring it out.... but host now seems to be doing his best to incriminate me too...

Can I point out to my fellow demons that just because pevergreen has apparently been a naughty boy in some respect or other, that doesn't make his 'reveal' true!

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You were blocked twice. One was a success and the other was afaik unconfirmed either way. What about that?

Right, this seems to be a disturbing trend.

Unvote: pevergreen
Vote: Abstain

Tentative.

That sucks, since it breaks the game a bit. Still, we were going to lynch Mak anyway, so it's not a major break.

Unvote: pevergreen
Vote: Makanyane

As far as the Pro-Town network knows, the mafia is Mak, Sarathos and W&F. We deducted most of this ourselves, with only slight clues from pevergreen. I recommend that we systematically vote them out and spend our resources killing them at the night faze.

CSI: Netherworld

Killer One – Herakles

Described as brutish/brawny, uses massive and/or spiked club; N5 took down whole mountainside! Power in great supply.

Struck on N1 (Warluster), N3 (Twilightblade), N4 (Ichigo), N5 (NorthNovas).

N2 there was no club killing.


Killer Two – Kaalrati

Harder to pin this one down; I’m assuming that the consistent theme here is shape-shifting/deception. Described as blue & 4 armed on N5, beautiful demoness/animalistic N3, strange spirit with many tails N2, and POSSIBLY many swords on N1.

Struck on N1 (shlin) tentative, N2 (gibs), N3 (trat), N5 (factionheir)

N4 there was no shapeshifter kill.


Killer Three – Grim Reaper (Cronos?) [claimed by pevergreen]

Described as a scythe killer; talked fatalistically and tauntingly with victims. This suggests not only death, but cruelty in the killing.

Struck on N2 (Sasaki), N3 (Fahad – protected), N4 (BabanaBob – protected), N5 (Andres).


Killer Four – Balrog [claimed by TinCow as Hades]

Described as wielding a jet black sword and whip (usually of fire) though sometimes fire comes from the being itself.

Struck on N1 (Scott), N2 (Proletariat), N3 (Tiberius), N4 (Drisos).


Killer Five – Archangel (may not be separate killer)

Described as winged angel with sword; I do not hold with tying this killer and the club killer together.

Struck on N2 (Sigurd)


Note: We must explore the possibility that one or more of the killers may have switched/altered motifs in order to sow confusion or even just at a whim. Such a motif must remain constant in capo, but no such dictate has been noted by Kami.

Second Note: After a good bit of google-fu and some old fashioned reading, I have determined that no one mythos or underworld tradition can be assumed to have primacy in this game. I have noted elements of Hebraic, Hindustani, Christian, Greco-Roman, and quite possibly Tolkienesque lore and must deduce that Kami's effort is a melange of his own device.

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

You were blocked twice. One was a success and the other was afaik unconfirmed either way. What about that?

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I certainly don't have any results to say I was blocked twice. No little message to say I woke up with a headache this morning.... (I was a role blocker in Capo and according to Seamus the 'blockee' would have that message - I don't know if Kami does it the same way - though maybe not actually doing anything to be blocked means you don't get to know..... :wall: )

What I was about to point out before pever got WoG'd was according to TinCow's earlier post NN introduced pever to the town group.... and the claimed results are from NN, leading me to think they might have been up to something together.

NN turning up dead makes him look genuine, but I'm not sure if the Club killer could be a serial killer. That was what I was trying to look up before I spotted pever's WoG. Seeing as we're now degenerating into chaos and I seem to be replacement public enemy number one, I'll let someone else do the hard work in checking that.

good night my fellow demons - do try and apply some thought to things from now on - and don't invite too many mafia to your private parties

OOC: I really, really hope this game has not been ruined. It's a very, very enjoyable and fun game. Congrats kamikhaan, you're doing a wonderful job :2thumbsup: (allthough I'm getting the feeling that your dark side is messing with our heads very badly.To be honest, I hardly have a clue about what's going on at the moment).

Now, back to pretending like I know what I'm doing :smash:

Makanyane, I think you should reveal whatever role you have. Otherwise, you'll end up lynched.

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Originally Posted by Andres

Makanyane, I think you should reveal whatever role you have. Otherwise, you'll end up lynched.

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I agree, because you're either mafia or some sort of pro-town role. I'm not buying that you're just a regular demon.

vote: Makayane

No ordinary demon does anything during the night but torture souls.

Also, why are TC and gang suspicious of me?

CR

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Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit

vote: Makayane

No ordinary demon does anything during the night but torture souls.

Also, why are TC and gang suspicious of me?

CR

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Not sure...

Possibly your voting pattern: Sasaki (voted early then let ride), Kommo (push vote though you know holmes doesn't work that fast), No Vote (during the TinCow/Bob/Joe tightly contested vote), Kommo (this one was a correctly timed pressure vote), Mak (hardly a decisive choice given post-pever trends);

Possibly because of your semi-lurking style in this game, even though you're posting normally in the Backroom and posting about even count wise with others in Castle; or

Possibly because you are "der Uber-Bunny" and people fear you! :devilish: