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But if he doesn't get WoG'd, and he is the SK, then he will kill again.Quote:
Originally Posted by woad&fangs
Twilight Blade never talked after sign-ups, and never voted. He got WoG'd.
Zorg actually talked after sign-ups a couple times but never voted. He got WoG'd.
Axel has been online, but has never voted, and has said absolutely nothing since sign-ups ended. Yet he somehow gets a pass.
No...
Something really smells here.
While I believe that PK may have a valid point regarding Axel, lets not get carried away here. At this moment in time it is all speculation. If everybody votes for him and then more evidence regarding someone else comes to light, this other person may escape if enough people who voted Axel are offline.
Vote: Husar
To highlight that while everyone else has jumped on the Axel bandwagon (well it kind of is), Husar has yet to come up with an explanation for why he was out of his room on Night One. While everything Sigurd said is suspect, this information still needs to be assessed and used. Everything is evidence. I'll now go back and investigate further, and would like to hear from Husar, so I may change my vote. But for now Husar has a 'Please Explain'.
PK has made a good observation with Axel's activity but there have been several request made to Husar to explain himself and he has made no attempt but in his post.
Vote: Husar
That's not good enough husar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Husar
Some valid points about axel. In pre school Zorg lurked tons, didn't get WoG'd, and came back in the later rounds, avoiding lynch for some time. We may say now that we are going to lynch him when he comes back but in practice we move on to other things.
However, Husar needs to step up. Vote:Husar
Husar is a bad vote, more thoughts to come in a second. (Need to charge my laptop).
:laugh4: And yet another small bandwagon. I await Rythmic's thoughts with interest, but before we get carried away...
Unvote:Husar
But I maintain a FOS on him (Husar) until further notice.
The Husar votes are based off of Sigurd's lies.
Something felt very scummy about Sigurd. But, there was one yakuza and one Carelli style hit last night. As well as Manfredo and Juliette's brother.
So I don't know who Sigurd was but I do not trust him.
Twilightblade is very sick as of now. We (his friends) do not know what it is. We havent spoken to him for nearly a week.
Husar is a darn good vote. We need a full explanation from him.
Also, seeing as the hitman killed Juliette, we should see if he will join the town. After all, he's now in the same boat as the rest of us; a target of the mafia and yakuza and Juliette's brother wants him dead.
CR
Strong opinion, but have they been conclusively proven lies? Husar hasn't made any effort to explain himself despite repeated demands to do so, not even going so far as to say "its all a fithy lie".Quote:
Originally Posted by Privateerkev
There is something not quite right about Sigurd, but to dismiss his evidence out of hand would be ridiculous.
Fine. I had hoped to avoid this but I need to do it.
The third entry on Sigurd's little list was me. And I know for a fact that it is a lie.
It says I was out of the room but innocent. That infers that I have a "power-town" role. I don't. I'm just a townie.
Therefore, I do not trust anything else he said. He just wrote a couple lines before he was lynched to mess with us for some reason.
I have a feeling mafia won't believe me and will hit me anyways. But I won't let someone get lynched based off of a scummy lie.
Vote: sarathos. A hunch and if he's been active and hasn't voted yet, that seems weird.
I'd rather lynch 3 townies and one maffia member than just voting abstain the whole time and wait for my turn to be killed...
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Originally Posted by pevergreen
OOC: I'm sorry about TB and I hope he is ok. I'll keep him in my thoughts...
My thoughts were either that Sigurd was indeed the "hobo" got lucky and found both the Prostitute and the Carabinieri. Highly unlikely. More probably he just made the whole thing up.
What I don't like is how certain players seem to be dictating the game and are "untouchable".
??? Explanation? Names?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rythmic
tally:
axel: 3 (Privateerkev, pevergreen, LittleGrizzly)
Husar: 2 (Northnovas, Sasaki Kojiro)
pevergreen: 1 (woad&fangs)
sarathos: 1 (Mithrandir)
woad&fangs makes sense, but I don't agree with his vote. I will place my vote on:
Vote: LittleGrizzly
This just says scum, scum, scum to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly
Before Ichigo was killed, he told me he was investigating LG. I wonder what he found. I know he can't discuss night actions but he can at least give his opinion like Khaan has been doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rythmic
I told you, I thought he had a role. Him and Northnovas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Privateerkev
Yeah but how do you feel about him now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
Since I know who the prostitute and the "supposed" detective are, it should be pretty obvious. :beam:Quote:
Originally Posted by Privateerkev
Vote: Sasaki
His first turn block coincided with only a single kill when we had many killers. The fact that he posted his own blockage PM just means he's smart, not that he's innocent. Lynch active players, not WoGs.
Not sound logic. Prostitute received same pm I did--ergo she can confirm that I staid home that night. There weren't many killers, manfredo and MiB weren't active. The yakuza didn't strike, presumably he was investigating.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
The prostitute can confirm, but has not done so. She could have easily verified your "doing nothing" PM via Ichigo, but that never happened. The votes on Husar are total scum, and your participation in that bandwagon tipped your balance in my mind.
That's simply not true. You are not allowed to reveal privately, so the prostitute could not have pm'd ichigo. A public reveal in this case would have resulted in my lynching. Also, if I had been lying, I would have been blocked the following night as well, and indeed every night since. The only possible conclusion is that I was telling the truth.
As for husar, you said yourself that the manner he explained himself made him suspicious. Sigurd died and yet there were 4 kill attempts. His reveal was somewhat scummy, but the lack of definite denial in husar is also scummy.
Is it also your belief that northnovas and curio are scum?
Sasaki is right Tincow, there are no private reveals, something I think that we have forgotten. Therefore while the Prostitute can prove Sasaki's innocence, she can't come forward as yet.
However how is the vote on Husar 'scummy'? There are legitimate questions to be answered, even if Sigurd has lied (which I now believe he has), which have arisen from his behaviour. Husar needs to explain himself. The best method of applying pressure to force him to answer is a threat to his welfare. The only weapon the town has is the power to lynch, therefore...
...do I really need to spell it out?
What Sasaki says makes sense about the prostitute, and since it seems every killing role was active last night it sort of clears TC as well.
Ichigo supposedly found him/her through investigation though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki
I don't think Axel is the best lynch, since he's a WoG target, if he doesn't get WoG'd then we lynch him tomorrow, simple as that.
I really do get a bad vibe from LG, he's doing just enough to stay in the game and stave off suspicion. Without risking throwing his weight around.
I think he means that you can not PM night results without first making them public. You can hint. You can make stuff up. But nothing private.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rythmic
As Ichigo seems to be dropping as much of a hint as he can - and his manner of death seems to confirm his old story
Vote: LittleGrizzly
the problem with going for the Wog'ies who haven't been wogged yet - so seem to have a role would be if Sigurd wasn't the detective its possible that the role that's stopping them getting wogged could be the detective one. Though if they aren't getting any info back to us the role isn't doing much good!
YepQuote:
Originally Posted by Makanyane
Vote: LittleGrizzly