Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia [Concluded]

For the past day or two, the Frontroom had been rather silent. The most obvious explanation was less villagers to make noise, but there was still a particular voice, always forceful and loud, that had not been heard. Observant villagers noticed this and voiced their concerns.

The Mouth o' the Frontroom, Sasaki Kojiro, had gone mute.

There was no explanation for this. Villagers had prodded him, begged him, bribed him, and even threatened him if he didn't say something, anything. But still Sasaki The Unflappable remained silent.

The villagers were lost without their leader, although it was an unspoken thing that nobody really admitted to. But his style of accusations, his dress (he wore this strange hood that obscured his face), and his frequency of entering the conversation made this inevitable. So it was only natural when he became silent that the lost villagers assumed the worst and turned on him.

He had plenty of chances to pipe in, but this vow of silence he had mysteriously taken prevented him from doing so, and thus he stayed, a silent observer. He said nothing as Chief of Police Beirut read the tally, said nothing as he was brought up to the execution platform, and said nothing when Beirut offered him the chance to.

After drinking the poison (in silence), he collapsed onto the ground, twitching. Only right before the poison extinguised his life did something pass through his lips - a scream of pure agony.

Here is the vote summary for Round 6:

Sasaki Kojiro: 4 (AndresTheCunning, Reenk Roink, Pannonian, Stig) :skull:
AndresTheCunning: 3 (Kommodus, Ichigo, CountArach)
CountArach: 1 (Crazed Rabbit)

Abstained: 3 (Kagemusha, Dutch_guy, ByzantineKnight)
Didn't vote: 1 (Sasaki Kojiro)

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Still alive: (11)
Kagemusha
Stig
Ichigo
Pannonian
Crazed Rabbit
Reenk Roink
CountArach
ByzantineKnight
AndresTheCunning
Dutch_guy
Kommodus

Wrath of God:
Ignoramus
Lord Motep of Kendermore
Warluster
JimBob
Fenring
pevergreen

Killed:
UltraWar
Omanes Alexandrapolites the Idiot
Zalmoxis
Orb
Rythmic
sapi
Sir Boo
Sir Moody
ChuggtheSquirrel
Faust| (replaces Destroyer of Hope who suicided)
Seamus Fermanagh
Redleg

Executed:
HughTower
discovery1
Caius Flaminius
Xiahou
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Sasaki Kojiro

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There may be a small change in voting procedure next round; I am still unsure. Keep posted.

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Originally Posted by AndresTheCunning

And why don't you vote for someone who looks guilty in your opinion? :inquisitive:

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Because Sasaki is a bad idea for a lynch...

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

I think Sasaki's pissed, and the reason why is the way RR says his method's hurt the town at least that's my opnion it could be something else though. Hopefully Pannonian will come back and unvote Sasaki so we can have a tie.

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If he would be pissed, wouldn't he have asked to get WoG'ed or notified GH his suicide? Whatever his reasons, we'll hear them after the game is ended.

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

Andres seems to be trying to pawn suspicion off on other players.

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The same can be said about Kommodus, not?

Besides, I know that I am an innocent townie, so I think it's quite normal I will look for suspects who are not me, isn't it?

I think I can rightfully ask myself the question why Sasaki disappears from the thread and Kommodus pops up with a lengthy list of suspects...

But we'll see when the night is over. No need to get the mafia hints on who will probably get lynched.

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Originally Posted by AndresTheCunning

I think I can rightfully ask myself the question why Sasaki disappears from the thread and Kommodus pops up with a lengthy list of suspects...

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:shocked2: :jawdrop:

Maybe they are the same person....after all, I've never seen them together at the same time...

Oh no....~:eek: :surrender:



:laugh4:


I think Sasaki was a bad lynch here -- though probably inevitable in context.

Suddenly shifting your posting behavior in that fashion is bound to draw attention and make you lynch bait. Therefore it seems unlikely as a mafia strategy.

I guess it was inevitable, however, because Sasaki is a bright chap and capable of using the above as the "reverse" reason for doing it -- WIFOM style. With that possibility, it's too easy a choice just to round up the quiet Sasaki as a "loose end."

On the whole, however, I suspect that we have NOT lynched a possible mafioso, and that this most recent vote is simply an effort at marking time while another pair of you join me.

Kagemusha
Stig
Ichigo
Pannonian
Crazed Rabbit
Reenk Roink
CountArach
ByzantineKnight
AndresTheCunning
Dutch_guy
Kommodus

Our remaining players. Kage, Dutch and BK abstained last voting round. I think that by now you should have some suspicions. If you don't have any your either not paying attention or you're a very cautious mafia, trying not to bandwagon, ever.

Now for Dutch:
He does say Sasaki looks suspicious, he does say enough to vote out people, but still he doesn't vote for people. Dutch has also been abstaining in earlier voting rounds.
Kage:
I can't find his vote, strange, but he only posted once this voting round
BK:
Said Sasaki was suspicious, but didn't vote for him as he thought it to be a bad lynch, next to that he would be almost last to vote for Sasaki, so he might have been afraid of bandwagonning.

Now for the remaining players:
Kommo:
Seems townish, but at the same time he can be faking some of the results of his research to hide his real identity.
Andres:
Seems townish, posts different from other games, but has been lynched twice while being completely innocent.
Ichigo:
Doesn't seem to suspicious, but then he's Ichigo.
Pannonian:
Seems innocent to me
CR:
where has he gone? Lurks a bit, minorly suspicious imo
Reenk Roink:
Has always been voting for Sasaki, he could be the detective, he could be Reenk and try one of his tricks again, minorly suspicious as well
Count Arach:
He could be both, some think he's suspicious, but all that could be against him are his posting methods.
Stig:
That's me, all I think that is against me is that I post the same as in Midgard, where I was succesfull, but then I posted like this till I got killed in Capo.

Anyway, Reenk, CR, Dutch and BK are on my list.

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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

I guess it was inevitable, however, because Sasaki is a bright chap and capable of using the above as the "reverse" reason for doing it -- WIFOM style. With that possibility, it's too easy a choice just to round up the quiet Sasaki as a "loose end."

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True, but then again it is hard to explain why he wouldn't stop posting in other threads. Personally I can't explain his actions, as he knew that the chance that he'd get lynched is way greater than him being kept alive. After such a sudden style change.

Stig, I merely stated I found Sasaki's behaviour unexplainable. Check the post I made yesterday at 19:44.

And yes, I, like any other player, do have my suspicions. Kommodus' list is never a thing which I have trusted, simply because it has been effectively used as a mafioso ploy, and because he's the sole user who can use it. However, his statistics are and have been an impressive job. So I do tend to give them the time I find it deserves.

CrazedR's unexpected style change is strange, just as Sasaki's. And the fact that Pannonian is thought by pretty much all of us to be innocent worries me a bit too, if he were to be a mafioso we wouldn't know. Heck, he'd have no problem in killing us all off, simply because we have all followed him like sheep on more than one occasion. However, I'm not voting for one of the above because I can't find anything conclusive in their actions, which would warrant a vote.

:balloon2:

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Originally Posted by AndresTheCunning

If he would be pissed, wouldn't he have asked to get WoG'ed or notified GH his suicide? Whatever his reasons, we'll hear them after the game is ended.

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Why would he do that if he could just get you all to waste a lynch? If I was pissed from something I wouldn't kill myself, I would try to get lynched. I don't know about that last statement.

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Originally Posted by AndresTheCunning

The same can be said about Kommodus, not?

Besides, I know that I am an innocent townie, so I think it's quite normal I will look for suspects who are not me, isn't it?

I think I can rightfully ask myself the question why Sasaki disappears from the thread and Kommodus pops up with a lengthy list of suspects...

But we'll see when the night is over. No need to get the mafia hints on who will probably get lynched.

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I don't think so. Kommodus was asked by Pannonian for a list of the rest of the players in the game, and how he analyzed them.

You may know that, but the rest of us can't just assume that your innocent because you say you are.

Pannonian asked him for that list like I said.

I agree.

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

Why would he do that if he could just get you all to waste a lynch? If I was pissed from something I wouldn't kill myself, I would try to get lynched. I don't know about that last statement.

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Well, like I said, we'll hear his explanation after the game has ended, I suppose.

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

I don't think so. Kommodus was asked by Pannonian for a list of the rest of the players in the game, and how he analyzed them.

You may know that, but the rest of us can't just assume that your innocent because you say you are.

Pannonian asked him for that list like I said.

I agree.

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I was talking about the first list, which he posted here. A list of six players when there are only 15 people left qualifies as a "lengthy" list imho.

Sorry if I wasn't clear enough :bow:

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Originally Posted by AndresTheCunning

Well, like I said, we'll hear his explanation after the game has ended, I suppose.



I was talking about the first list, which he posted here. A list of six players when there are only 15 people left qualifies as a "lengthy" list imho.

Sorry if I wasn't clear enough :bow:

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Not really. He posted who he was suspicious of. He didn't get voted, then start trying to show faults in other peoples statements right after.

Dutch: Don't you think it's a little late in the game for you to still not be voting?

A whizz that has been increasingly evident, in this game above all others I've participated in, is the citing of "real life problems" to excuse lack of regular play. There is no way of checking the veracity of such a claim, there is no way of interrogating such players because they're not around to be questioned, and killing off such players can be (and often is) argued as a waste of time, resulting in their survival into the endgame. I kept out of Mafia IV because I knew I wasn't going to be around for the middle to end game, and generally I don't sign up unless I'm certain I can devote some time to it. Several players signed up for this game, then cited problems they must have been aware of (eg. Crazed Rabbit and his exams) as why they can't post more. Bah!

Dutch Guy and his permanent abstain isn't much better than the Disco vote or Reenk's courteous abstain, or Rabbit's confinement to the Backroom, either. Damn you all and your efforts at staying in character, play the damn game! There is simply no excuse for a townie to stay in character and lurk at this stage of the game - normalised stats no longer matter with this few people, and even if you survive the lynch you'll be part of a town loss in a couple of rounds as the mafia kill you all. So come out with your opinions, and let us lynch the ones that still try to remain "normal".

Game so far.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

R.1 kills #63
UltraWar
Omanes Alexandrapolites the Idiot

R.1 vote #154
HughTower: 5 (Sigurd Fafnesbane, Kagemusha, Xiahou, Seamus Fermanagh, Ichigo)
Sasaki Kojiro: 4 (Redleg, Stig, sapi, Reenk Roink)
Sigurd Fafnesbane: 3 (HughTower, Orb, AndresTheCunning)
Reenk Roink: 3 (discovery1, Destroyer of Hope, Pannonian)
pevergreen: 3 (ByzantineKnight, Sir Moody, Caius Flaminius)
Redleg: 1 (Crazed Rabbit)
AndresTheCunning: 1 (Kommodus)
Orb: 1 (Sasaki Kojiro)
Abstain: 6 (Zalmoxis, Dutch_guy, CountArach, Rythmic, ChuggTheSquirrel, pevergreen)
Didn't vote: 6 (Fenring, Lord Motep of Kendermore, Sir Boo, JimBob, Ignoramus, Warluster)

R.2 kills #181
Orb
Zalmoxis

R.2 vote #263
discovery1: 5 (Sigurd Fafnesbane, Destroyer of Hope, Sir Moody, Pannonian, Seamus Fermanagh)
Ichigo: 2 (Redleg, Xiahou)
pevergreen: 2 (AndresTheCunning, Stig)
Destroyer of Hope: 1 (discovery1)
Sasaki Kojiro: 1 (Reenk Roink)
Sigurd Fafnesbane: 1 (Kommodus)
Redleg: 1 (Ichigo)
Xiahou: 1 (Sasaki Kojiro)
Abstained: 7 (Dutch_guy, pevergreen, CountArach, ByzantineKnight, Rythmic, Sir Boo, Caius Flaminius)
Didn't vote: 9 (Kagemusha, Fenring, Lord Motep of Kendermore, Crazed Rabbit, JimBob, Ignoramus, Warluster, sapi, ChuggtheSquirrel)

R.3 kills #300
Rythmic
sapi

R.3 vote #374
Caius Flaminius: 5 (Pannonian, Stig, CountArach, Ichigo, Sir Moody)
Sasaki Kojiro: 2 (Xiahou, Reenk Roink)
Stig: 1 (Caius Flaminius)
Xiahou: 1 (Sasaki Kojiro)
Ichigo: 1 (Redleg)
Crazed Rabbit: 1 (Kagemusha)
Abstained: 3 (Kommodus, pevergreen, ByzantineKnight)
Didn't vote: 13 (Fenring, Lord Motep of Kendermore, Sir Boo, Crazed Rabbit, JimBob, Ignoramus, Warluster, AndresTheCunning, Sigurd Fafnesbane, Seamus Fermanagh, Dutch_guy, Destroyer of Hope)

R.4 kills #418
Sir Moody
Sir Boo

R.4 #573
Xiahou: 6 (Sasaki Kojiro, Stig, Sigurd Fafnesbane, CountArach, ByzantineKnight, Xiahou)
Sigurd Fafnesbane: 5 (AndresTheCunning, Pannonian, Seamus Fermanagh, Redleg, Kagemusha)
Sasaki Kojiro: 1 (Reenk Roink)
Reenk Roink: 1 (Faust|)
Kommodus: 1 (Crazed Rabbit)
Pannonian: 1 (Ichigo)
Abstained: 4 (pevergreen, ChuggtheSquirrel, Dutch_guy)
Didn't vote: 6 (Ignoramus, JimBob, Lord Motep of Kendermore, Warluster, Fenring, Kommodus)
(for my records: Kommodus missed the main session but voted in the run-off)

R.5 kills #613
Faust
ChuggtheSquirrel

R.5 vote #658
Sigurd Fafnesbane: 4 (Stig, ByzantineKnight, Redleg, AndresTheCunning)
Crazed Rabbit: 2 (Pannonian, CountArach)
Pannonian: 1 (Sigurd Fafnesbane)
Kommodus: 1 (Kagemusha)
AndresTheCunning: 1 (Kommodus)
Sasaki Kojiro: 1 (Ichigo)
Abstained: 2 (Seamus Fermanagh, Dutch_guy)
Didn't vote: 2 (Crazed Rabbit, Reenk Roink)

R.6 kills #677
Redleg
Seamus Fermanagh

R.6 vote #721
Sasaki Kojiro: 4 (AndresTheCunning, Reenk Roink, Pannonian, Stig)
AndresTheCunning: 3 (Kommodus, Ichigo, CountArach)
CountArach: 1 (Crazed Rabbit)
Abstained: 3 (Kagemusha, Dutch_guy, ByzantineKnight)
Didn't vote: 1 (Sasaki Kojiro)

Hello. 'tis exam week so I havn't been able to read. Thought it would be amusing to stop posting and see what happened. Did a quick reread, Pannonian is scum.

First round he was content to let things slide by. Last round: the same. Other rounds he is very active though. Inconsistent. If he were mafia he would try to emulate his townie behavior as best he could, however he is somewhat off. He is much less on target this game. At times he is all "discussion discussion discussion!" and at others doesn't care. His posting on caius got him lynched on a very weak case which he pushed eagerly. He has several times protested the caius lynch which is quite scummy. His insistance on pevergreen being WoG'd seems like he wanted another townie out of the way. He way overreacted to Faust's vote on Reenk. He has also constantly threatened to try and get reenk lynched but never has. If there are still two scum left I think it's pann and reenk.

I shan't be around to argue about it unfortunatly.

You haven't read and read that Pann is scum ... well done

And if you weren't fed up with us, and still wanted a townie win, why didn't you say that you would be gone?

btw ~:cheers: after your exams

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

If there are still two scum left I think it's pann and reenk.

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They're two strong suspects for me. If you read Reenk's defenses of himself, all of them have been bluster. There's no need for so much attitude if you're a townie. Either:

1) he's mafia and is trying to milk this strategy where he can appear to defend himself yet commit to no opinions. This role is not too far off from normal... I would say it's an exagerated Reenk though.

or

2) he's a townie and trying to build up a consistent character for future games.

Faust you don't know Reenk (hell I don't even know him well enough) he's full of tricks. In one game he only replied in smilies, in Midgard he claimed to be a Loki, it took long for us to believe him. Reenk mostlikely is playing, tho he's always a suspect.

Day breaks in the Frontroom. All is quiet. Nobody wanted to do anything that was too out of the ordinary now. It was crunch time.

Reenk Roink was sitting calmly in his living room, reading some obscure book regarding atheism. Perhaps, if he died like this, it wouldn't be so bad. He was at peace with his quiet, tranquil little world.

RRRRRRRRRRR

Said world was disrupted by the sound of a motor. Angrily, Reenk looked outside his window. Someone was mowing his lawn! Reenk threw open the window and started to yell at this unwanted landscaper.

"What the heck are you doing?! I don't want my lawn mown!"

The man mowing the lawn couldn't hear any of this, so Reenk finally threw a rock at him, which finally got his attention. The man turned the mower off and addressed Reenk.

"Hey man, what's going on? We had great fun at that disco last night, huh? That party was awesome." Reenk was totally perplexed at this. What party? Why would a party be held in these times?

"I don't know you. There wasn't any party. What's this all about?"

The man mowing the lawn smiled innocently. "Now come on Reenk, let's be a nice guy and talk about this inside."

This was odd. Usually Reenk was the one who had confused the others. He was uncomfortable when the positions were reversed. "Uhm, sure. Come on in then. Can I offer you a drink?"

The mafioso laughed. "No thank you. I'm just looking for something. That book on atheism you are reading, I believe. You have others like that, do you not? More... interesting ones?"

There was no way anyone could be more confused than Reenk at that very moment. "Uh, sorry my friend, but-"

He was interrupted by the sound of the mafioso taking out a gun, adjusting the silencer, and pointing it at his face, all in one fluid motion. Instantly his confusion turned to fear.

"You know very well which book I'm talking about. It's the same one you bought at the University of Michigan bookstore, exactly one year ago today. Come on, let's have it." Reenk, petrified, quickly tossed the mafioso the desired book and began the begging.

"There! Here's the book, please don't kill me! I can explain anything, just don't kill me! I'm still useful!"

The mafioso just smiled. "Sorry Reenk, but everything I need to know is in that book." A bullet between the eyes ended the conversation, and the mafioso took out his cell phone.

"My work is done here. Are you doing okay? Everything goes according to plan? Okay then. Bye."

At that same instant, Pannonian was doing what he thought all the villagers should have done a long time ago. He had spent the night loading his truck with food, water, and most importantly, his valuable history books. He was heading out. These crazy villagers had resorted to the (obviously flawed) form of vigilante justice, and it clearly wasn't working. Worse yet, they had fingered him as the guilty party! No, he was getting out of here while he still could.

"It's a death trap, it's a suicide rap..."

Those Bruce Springsteen lyrics had never been more prophetic. Pannonian started humming the rest of the song as he was making his way out of the city limits when suddenly another car came out onto the road. It was driving quickly, and had a blue flashing light. A cop car. Reluctantly, Pannonian pulled over. A speeding ticket would be the least of his worries.

Out of the car stepped a pale man in shiny sunglasses. This was odd, because the only cop in the Frontroom was the Chief of Police. Had he already left the Frontroom?

"License and registration, please."

Pannonian reluctantly pulled out his papers. This was taking far too long. The cop wasn't even paying attention now, he seemed to be taking a call on his phone.

"Everything is okay as usual, don't worry. I'll take care of it." Finally, the call concluded and he made his way back to Pannonian, who handed over the papers.

"What's the matter, did I go too fast?" The cop shook his head.

"Don't worry about it, just stay calm my friend. This will be over soon enough." A frazzled Pannonian shot back. "Look man, I respect the uniform and all but I have to leave this madhouse as soon as I can!" Meanwhile, the pale man pocketed Pannonian's documents.

"Yes yes, this won't take a moment. Can you open your trunk please?" After Pannonian's protests, he repeated the request, although this time it wasn't phrased as a question. Reluctantly, Pannonian opened the trunk, still protesting. "Do I look like some drug dealer to you?"

The mafioso ignored Pannonian and stared into the trunk. "Ah, just as I thought. There it is." Pannonian got really angry at this point.

"Don't ignore me!" he screamed. The mafioso finally heeded him some attention. "Of course I won't. Now, what was this you were saying about being a drug dealer? That might check out with the force. Come on Pann, you don't recognize me? Your memory isn't that bad, is it?"

He took off his sunglasses and Pannonian finally caught on. "This can't be," he murmured.

"Yes it can. I know those wild animals that you sent after me were fast, but so was I. Let's just say that I broke some records that evening." The mafioso smiled at this recollection. Meanwhile, Pannonian was extremely frightened. The mafioso continued.

"Well, it was a nice chat, and I have what I came for." He paused a second, to hear the final lyric of the song that was playing on the radio.

"Baby we were born to run..."

"Let's see if that's true. Are you faster than my bullet?" Pannonian bolted, but it didn't take very long to find out that the answer to the question was "no."

Later that day, Chief of Police Beirut gathered the villagers (which were making themselves scarce) in the town center to make an announcement.

"Gentlemen," he began, "drastic times call for drastic measures. Obviously the mafia have not been eradicated yet. So, I am hereby banning all abstain votes. You must vote for an actual person from now on."

A few quieter villagers groaned.

Beirut now took out a familiar-looking axe. "Also, the next person you sentence to be executed will have an old-style death. Just me, him, and the chopping block. Get voting!"

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Still alive: (9)
Kagemusha
Stig
Ichigo
Crazed Rabbit
CountArach
ByzantineKnight
AndresTheCunning
Dutch_guy
Kommodus

Wrath of God:
Ignoramus
Lord Motep of Kendermore
Warluster
JimBob
Fenring
pevergreen

Killed:
UltraWar
Omanes Alexandrapolites the Idiot
Zalmoxis
Orb
Rythmic
sapi
Sir Boo
Sir Moody
ChuggtheSquirrel
Faust| (replaces Destroyer of Hope who suicided)
Seamus Fermanagh
Redleg
Reenk Roink
Pannonian

Executed:
HughTower
discovery1
Caius Flaminius
Xiahou
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Sasaki Kojiro

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Nine left. Abstains will be counted as "no vote"s from now on.

Great they killed the two of which Sasaki said they were suspicious ... shall we say that Sasaki didn't communicate well with his remaining mafia friend ... or that it was just a coincidence.

Dutch Guy made himself suspicious with his continous Abstaining imo. So I'm going to vote for him:

Vote: Dutch Guy

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Originally Posted by God

So, I am hereby banning all abstain votes. You must vote for an actual person from now on."

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Well then, it seems things need to change...

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Originally Posted by Stig

Dutch Guy made himself suspicious with his continous Abstaining imo. So I'm going to vote for him

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Pretty convenient excuse though, so I'm suspicious because I abstain, and not for what I post ? Strange, especially knowing my abstaining is not going to happen anymore, since it's not allowed from now on. Seems to me you're in quite a hurry to get a vote in, and didn't put a lot of thought in the actual reason.

:balloon2:

:laugh4:

There's a reason I decided to stop participating last round :laugh4:

<--thinks he'll refrain from further speculation till friday

Vote: AndresTheCunning

Can't say I blame people for not trusting me, especially after I was wrong about Pannonian. Still, I think this is the right choice.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

:laugh4:

There's a reason I decided to stop participating last round :laugh4:

<--thinks he'll refrain from further speculation till friday

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:dizzy2:

How about a little more information? You edited that post after initially saying "they fell for it." What did you mean by that?

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Originally Posted by Kommodus

:dizzy2:

How about a little more information? You edited that post after initially saying "they fell for it." What did you mean by that?

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Attempting to salvage my hurt ego :sweatdrop:

That's what I get for skimming :smash:

Vote Kommodus. I think you are scum with your continuos mantra ,about people not trusting you.Im happy that you accept that some of us dont trust on your innocence on this game.:inquisitive:

Boy, you guys who were pointing the finger at me were either really lost or deliciously guilty. :rolleyes:

If anyone was wondering what "game" I was playing this round it is being a good but hard nosed villager trying to help the town. I was hoping for a detective reveal or some mistake, but since we had very little to go on, Sasaki Kojiro was my target. Sasaki Kojrio was an excellent lynch. He is extremely suspicious all the time until proven innocent, and given his recent cryptic messages, all the more reason not to trust him.

Now, the fact that the detective has not revealed yet is worrying. He is most likely dead, killed early on a la Banquo's Ghost. If you are alive now detective, reveal. Innocents are as valuable as Mafia people in this late stage.

Now to the Mafia themselves. First of all, what a sad kill you guys gave me. With quotes like: "reading some obscure book regarding atheism" and similar vagueness, it is quite obvious that you are not well read at all. When I was Mafia, I brought up books like The Analyst: A Discourse Addressed to an Infidel Mathematician Wherein it is Examined Whether the Object, Principles, and Inferences of the Modern Analysis are more Distinctly Conceived, or More Evidently Deduced, than Religious Mysteries and Points of Faith. and followed a nice theme with my kills, creating a nice aura around the game itself. Same with Seamus Fermanagh.

Oh, and don't try to pass your poor show on GeneralHankerchief, because he writes the kills based on the PM's, and I can imagine him reading your pitiful PM now:

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Originally Posted by Intellectually challenged Mafia

gee-H

plees kill ReN aX wit a gun /

LOl

pS; make dat uh micheen gun

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Anyway, I think the Mafia will win this game, but let's make something clear: the Mafia didn't win it. The town lost it. The performances of losing Mafia teams like in Mafia II, III, and IV were brilliant, and it was due to strong town play that they got defeated. You on the other hand haven't done anything to deserve victory. Kagemusha won it in Mafia I. Sigurd Fafnesbane won it in Gotta Have More Mafia. Their performances were great. Yours were not...

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Originally Posted by Reenk Roink

Anyway, I think the Mafia will win this game, but let's make something clear: the Mafia didn't win it. The town lost it. The performances of losing Mafia teams like in Mafia II, III, and IV were brilliant, and it was due to strong town play that they got defeated. You on the other hand haven't done anything to deserve victory. Kagemusha won it in Mafia I. Sigurd Fafnesbane won it in Gotta Have More Mafia. Their performances were great. Yours were not...

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The town needed to throw a good amount of mud arond at a good variety of people, thrown by a good number of people, in order to push discussion. Instead, I was the main driver and target for most of the middle game, as people either didn't bother or were scared of attracting attention. If the town is going to continue in this way, good luck in finding the remaining mafia.

After the effort I've put into this, I think I'll take a break from these games until either the next installment of Capo or Mafia. I just hope the next one I play in will actually have some active play for a change.

I think we're hitting the limits of the 24 hour day mafia games here. 750 posts is nigh on impossible to reread carefully, and some of the people still living have less than 10 posts. ~:handball: I used to like this format but the week long days are just so much easier to manage.

I'd say stig or CountArach for today.

meh.

<--has writers block

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Originally Posted by Stig

Our remaining players. Kage, Dutch and BK abstained last voting round. I think that by now you should have some suspicions. If you don't have any your either not paying attention or you're a very cautious mafia, trying not to bandwagon, ever.

BK:
Said Sasaki was suspicious, but didn't vote for him as he thought it to be a bad lynch, next to that he would be almost last to vote for Sasaki, so he might have been afraid of bandwagonning.

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Yes, I abstained, because I "thought Sasaki was a bad lynch".

Whenever I play mafia e.g. CTDC and 3 Sons of Algamar, I almost never abstain, and I always do my best to get the other player lynched, going random with my votes...

I am kinda lurking in this game because I can only devote all my attention to one game at a time, soon to be this one as soon as I die in Monks and Masons...

And unless I'm innocent I never mind bandwagoning...

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Originally Posted by Pannonian

The town needed to throw a good amount of mud arond at a good variety of people, thrown by a good number of people, in order to push discussion. Instead, I was the main driver and target for most of the middle game, as people either didn't bother or were scared of attracting attention. If the town is going to continue in this way, good luck in finding the remaining mafia.

After the effort I've put into this, I think I'll take a break from these games until either the next installment of Capo or Mafia. I just hope the next one I play in will actually have some active play for a change.

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What we really lack are game playing standards. Since everyone knows the voting will be over quickly, we can't enforce good townie behavior. On mafiascum there's time day 1 to go through and punish people for bad logic and bandwagon votes and lurking. Most of the posts have substance and are worthwhile. A majority is required for lynch so the voting record is actually usefull. Here we let people get away with posting a few one liners. It's fun when you're scum but a bit depressing when you're town.

We also really need a better search function. I can't summon the energy to reread the thread 9 times to get a read on the people left alive.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

What we really lack are game playing standards. Since everyone knows the voting will be over quickly, we can't enforce good townie behavior. On mafiascum there's time day 1 to go through and punish people for bad logic and bandwagon votes and lurking. Most of the posts have substance and are worthwhile. A majority is required for lynch so the voting record is actually usefull. Here we let people get away with posting a few one liners. It's fun when you're scum but a bit depressing when you're town.

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One way of helping this would be to restrict the number of games going on at the same time. I was extremely PO'ed when Warluster started a new game when he was still committed to this, after not posting for the whole game. I had previously only played in the biggies, so I was used to a good level of discussion. Mental Institution was my first experience of what happens when people don't bother, and it wasn't pleasant, making me want to make a success of this game, whoever wins. So far, only Kommodus has bothered to make the effort, with the others just coasting along expecting a probably dead detective to put them on the road to safety. Even disregarding my role as townie, it's disappointing.

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We also really need a better search function. I can't summon the energy to reread the thread 9 times to get a read on the people left alive.

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I noticed it doesn't show all the posts by a poster in the required subforum or thread, making it less than useful. The 2 minute wait between searches doesn't help either, although that may be necessary to stop the whole forum from falling down. A useful search function doesn't need fancy touches - a guarantee it will find all the posts of that description in a thread will suffice.

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Originally Posted by Pannonian

I noticed it doesn't show all the posts by a poster in the required subforum or thread, making it less than useful. The 2 minute wait between searches doesn't help either, although that may be necessary to stop the whole forum from falling down. A useful search function doesn't need fancy touches - a guarantee it will find all the posts of that description in a thread will suffice.

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mafiascum has a drop down list at the bottom of the page--you select someones name and a page containing all of their posts in the thread in the correct format appears. The main problem with our function is it doesn't show the whole post only the first 100 characters or so.

Maybe Kommodus can grace us with his database ~D

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

mafiascum has a drop down list at the bottom of the page--you select someones name and a page containing all of their posts in the thread in the correct format appears. The main problem with our function is it doesn't show the whole post only the first 100 characters or so.

Maybe Kommodus can grace us with his database ~D

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Which is long enough for most of the posts...sadly.

I like the idea of a somewhat slower game (48 hours? 72?) -- always liked turtling in RTW anyway -- to allow for better reads.

Easy to get burnt out. I find myself taking time off after games just to read the backroom a bit or such.

I think we need to go to one major and 2 minis at any one time. Just a thought.