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Do I believe Ichigo? Not unconditionally. What if Ichigo has lied to you about his score?
'I was going to remedy my block of him by training him. I had to know his score to be sure I had twice as much.'
That's weak. He couldn't have trained with you because he was blocked. Or have I misinterpreted the notion of training?
'I think that the mafiosi get more than a +2 for killing using Kung Fu during the night and Orb needed a reason to validate his explosive advance. '
I think just not revealing the explosive advance would be the best Mafia tactic in this situation. Sure as hell I wouldn't have drawn attention to that.
I hope Sasaki notices that the above is just a quote and not you voting for yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Orb
Doubt it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Orb
Not that same night.Quote:
That's weak. He couldn't have trained with you because he was blocked. Or have I misinterpreted the notion of training?
I had already sent in a request of training Andres... too bad Sapi blocked him that night.
I was going to train Disco next night... unfortunately he didn't live to see the day.
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Originally Posted by Ichigo
So why did you think the mafia got more than 2 for a night kill, and why did you think that I would duel to cover such an advance up? It makes more sense simply to not declare it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki
Which leads us back to my question... Were you a 9 when the game began?Quote:
Originally Posted by Orb
'We need to be cautious following sapi, Kommodus and Orb blindly in this.
I have doubts about them…'
Why Sapi and Kommodus?
'Let’s take Orb this time:
From the writeup of the duels in round 1 it seems that Orb and Ichigo are fairly equal giving the victory to Orb because he was using the antithesis style to Ichigo’s.'
It said I had the advantage in terms of skill.
'This would give Orb a bonus of +2.
In his next fight he just rolls over Redleg and it is finished in 3 sec.
Alright so Orb has been training.'
Why? It is entirely possible that Redleg had a worse score than Ichigo. If you pull another 'I contacted him just before he died' statement, I will point blank refuse to believe you. He doesn't, to my knowledge, go on chat, which is where you lurk. Notice all three fights that round are finished in 3 seconds, so the skill differences inherent were almost certainly different but the write-up gave the same difficulty. Sasaki is not forced to use the same exact expression for fights with the same skill difference.
'But there is an inconsistency here.
In post #347 he brags about his pretty damn high Kung Fu value.
I happen to know Ichigo’s Kung Fu value and it is certainly not pretty damn high.'
Bragging does not equate to fact. My Kung Fu value *is* pretty high.
'When in the chat with Ichigo, Orb logged on and I enquired subtly about Orb’s high score and he eventually claimed a starting value of 10. I pressed on and he later claimed a 9. I accused him of making this up as you wouldn’t normally forget your starting score of 9. If you compare this to the fight versus Ichigo which has a low score you can see the inconsistency.
Orb can’t have had a starting score of 9 and he is obviously hiding something.
If Orb had a starting score of 9 and received a +3 bonus for style the fight would have been narrated like the Ichigo vs.The Stranger fight.'
It wasn't a very subtle inquiry. If I were mafia, you'd be dead now. The 'it was a joke thing' threw me not at all. So whose scores do you know? Why won't you reveal them?
'This implies sapi too somewhat as the two of them are seemingly working together. I have my eyes on Kommodus as well. He has yet to mention using his methods. As we all know he vowed to not use them as mafia. The trio seems to be utilising the “All mafia in plain sight” routine. They are building trust with the intent of fooling us all.'
No, you simply can't be arsed to read the thread. He has, I believe, mentioned the use of Holmes.
Sapi and I aren't exactly cooperating.
Sigurd, your reasoning is weak.
Sorry for the disconnected responses. I'd originally planned on going to bed after a quick response, but I remembered the Blackaxe incident.
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
Then why weren't our first duels narrated similarily...Quote:
Originally Posted by Orb
Both disco and Ichigo had the same score and now you are telling me you had the same score as me? :no:
You should have had at least a 12 against Ichigo's 4... While I had a 9 against Disco's 4+3
Ichigo does indeed have a much lower starting score than I'd expected, if you/he are telling the truth. I assumed it was 6-7. My starting score *was* 9. Nonetheless, I did get a favourable write-up in terms of skill and my style was superior.
What did you think my score was?
You seem not to be getting the idea that Sasaki can use multiple different phrasings to describe the same skill difference. Your case is groundless, excepting that I would probably have attacked me for getting my starting score 'wrong' in the same position.
Challange: Ichigo
BZK has asked me for my ingame name, saying he would reply back with the protection target...I'm waiting.
Poor Ichigo, you are going to get smashed :no:
Ok, I hate to step in but it appears to be a question of game mechanics. I wrote the description a bit carelessly.
The "closer" is in reference to the previous match, sapi vs andres, and indicates that orb's score is closer to ichigo than sapi's was to andres. The +3 bonus is enough to soundly defeat Ichigo, without it he would perhaps have easily defeated ichigo.Quote:
Orb Vs Ichigo
These fighters are closer to each other's skill level, with anslightedge to Orb. However, Orb's Dragon style is the natural antithesis of Ichigo's White Crane style, and this is enough to allow Orb to soundly defeat Ichigo.
I'll try and write up the descriptions more carefully in the future and perhaps make a code sheet for certain phrases.
Hmm, That means I should beat Ichigo even better.
Someone is telling a falsehood.....Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stranger
ChuggtheSquirrel asked the same question, Sasaki answered him, just look just past the N1 Summary...Quote:
Originally Posted by Redleg
Did anyone notice that the people that were killed during N2 were all losing members of a duel? And they were all killed with Kung Fu, don't you think this could mean that the mafia are dueling during the day, and then killing with Kung Fu during the night?
The second night kill could do with some discussion, did the other mafia not have enough Kung Fu to kill after one of their members died? Or did they just buy a bow and feel that it would be a waste not to use it...
Vote: Orb
sapi is next
Byz
EDIT: Sigurd is next, sapi can be after that.
The other member joined another protection group, i had no one left.Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
And the other groups i knew about were all full up. :no:
Hopefully we can both have something to do this time.
Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
Hmmm...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
I guess this is a little payoff from Midgard huh?
Alright, it appears that Sasaki basically cleared the name of Orb here. Oh, and for the record, Andres had the starting score of 1 (Also revealed before he died).
For now, me thinks Orb is not mafioso and I apologise if my accusations of you seemed unfounded and/or harsh.
unvote: Orb
Hey, this seems like an opportunist going for a player he believes has a lower score…Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
Since it was me who did reveal this score… I will try to step in here lowering the chances of Ichigo getting into another fight… that is, if Ichigo wants to fight pever I shall step down.
Challenge: pevergreen
Oh I blame you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
I merely clarified the rules :stare:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
Eh, when you guys are done comparing penis length, maybe you can start working on a voting system for the challenges?
Instead of disscussing the property of this game, you can try to democratically decide who is going to challenge who. It would be a second voting system next to the lynch voting system and maybe we'll get clues from the voting patterns in this second system as well.
I wanted to see what Ichigo's score was, not to mention Pevergreen's. From the looks of things Pever is a high scoring fighter while Ichigo is middling. So if you'll step down from challenging pever, pever steps down from challenging Ichigo, and Ichigo confirms that he is indeed middle of the road in terms of kung fu skill, I'll fight Ichigo myself. I'm around middle of the range (5-7 - should be 7, but Sasaki hasn't confirmed it in PMs). So the description of that fight should show us, not only Ichigo's skill (and mine for those who want to confirm), but also the truth or otherwise of Orb's statements.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
So can pever and Sigurd please withdraw their challenges?
Challenge: Ichigo
Current challenges, IIRC
The Stranger challenges Orb
Kommodus challenges Twilightblade
Stig challenges Sapi
Pevergreen challenges Ichigo
Sigurd challenges Pevergreen
Pannonian challenges Ichigo
Tally:
Orb 3 (ByzK, HughT, pever)
Xehh II 2 (CR, Xdeath)
Kage 1 (greatherkhaan)
Pever 1 (Stig)
Sigurd (Orb)
Kommodus challenges TwilightBlade
Omanes challenges Sapi
Pevergreen challenges Ichigo
Sigurd challenges pever
Stig challenges sapi
The_Stranger challenges Orb
alright...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pannonian
Unchallenge: pevergreen
tally:
Kommodus challenges TwilightBlade
Omanes challenges Sapi
Pevergreen challenges Ichigo
Stig challenges sapi
The_Stranger challenges Orb
still two duels too many for this to work.
Unchallange: Ichigo
but can i fight someone?
Kommo, unchallange TB, he has a very low starting score, I know it because i trained him.
Tally
Kommodus challenges TwilightBlade
Omanes challenges sapi
Stig challenges sapi
The_Stranger challenges Orb
Kommodus also claims a very low score, which was why I suggested TB. I wanted Kommodus to fight someone so we could see if he's telling the truth about his skill. My original suggestion was Sapi, but Kommo said that he wouldn't last 3 seconds, so I suggested the weakest fighter I know of instead. I'm trying, not only to see the fighting ability of the fighters, but also in relation to others and what they've claimed. If TS doesn't think he can take Orb then perhaps you can take his place instead (since I just want to see Orb fight a high-ranking fighter).Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
Tb, is obviously not the weakest, if there is someone else that started with the lowest score. TB could be anywhere from 3-7
The point was that Kommo claimed to have a rather low score. By letting him duel a weak fighter like TB, we'll be able to see if Kommo told the truth...Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
Still no voting for the challenges I see.
And why are you not voting überhaupt. Maybe the town can place 5 or 6 votes on three different players (preferably on at least one lurker as well), to see how they respond ?
Hmmm, if you trained him, how can you be so unsure about his score? Trying to hide something?Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen