anyways thread feels too chill so my inner DADV fuppy keeps saying lissa is town but realistically ghosting thread says otherwise. if lissa flips town and game doesnt end overnight and benneh keeps me alive and tries to push this as tmi he's meowted blah blah blah idk gl hopefully i'm bad and wrong
ngl a bit dissapointed in lissa for flakin today as either alignment tho but maybe partner told her to shruge
Almost certainly wolves decided to just take it today if Lissa is a wolf and tank discussion
anyways thread feels too chill so my inner DADV fuppy keeps saying lissa is town but realistically ghosting thread says otherwise. if lissa flips town and game doesnt end overnight and benneh keeps me alive and tries to push this as tmi he's meowted blah blah blah idk gl hopefully i'm bad and wrong
ngl a bit dissapointed in lissa for flakin today as either alignment tho but maybe partner told her to shruge
Stett I don’t think lissa ghosted as town
Esp since she accused me of trying to bury her before she could obvtown herself today
You are [Resurrection by Son Lux](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtEYqxF8aEg)
You are a conduit of meditative harmony and warmth. (I wrote this horoscope for Philip Glass, but it works here too, although the meditative harmony is all spiky and vibratey like an unstable spell, and the warmth is more of a steel singeing from a cooktop that was recently turned off and may or may not burn you now if you touch it.)
You are Cycle JOAT
You win when your team reaches parity with Town and no other threats to your team remain.
You have the following abilities:
Each night, you may use one of the following actions:
1x Tracker
Target a player to see who they visit that night.
1x Role Cop
Target a player to learn the name of their role.
1x Doctor
Target a player to protect them from killing actions that night.
You must cycle through all three actions before being able to reuse any of them.
Night time, please submit actions at least 1 hr before deadline!
05-18-2025, 01:00
Gemma
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Dyachei has died! They were:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
You are [Sonata for Solo Cello by Zoltán Kodály](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpCXNI9k9PQ)
A notoriously difficult piece. Being Hungarian, it is desperate and tragic. The 1957 Starker recording releases this abject spirit and his interpretation is my first and only love.
You are Vanilla
You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.
You have the following abilities:
Day 5 starts now!
Livelist
Visor
didistetter
nebjiamn
Maple
waza
Taffy
pzelda
05-18-2025, 01:02
pzelda
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
So, for some reason I'm alive, Visor is alive, Benneh is alive, Stett is alive, waza is alive and dya is dead.
Also, I'm in a pub.
05-18-2025, 01:05
didistetter
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
dya dead is to block the cop surely.
I think lissa's flip looks good for maple's role being town.
V sorry i trolled eod 3 on lissa
05-18-2025, 01:06
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
lol so does Lissas role mean it’s Highly unlikely maple to be a wolf?
Vote taffy
05-18-2025, 01:07
Visor
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by didistetter
dya dead is to block the cop surely.
I think lissa's flip looks good for maple's role being town.
V sorry i trolled eod 3 on lissa
:stare:
05-18-2025, 01:08
Visor
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by pzelda
So, for some reason I'm alive, Visor is alive, Benneh is alive, Stett is alive, waza is alive and dya is dead.
@waza talk to me about reasoning on the maple vote swap last min when you were actively sussing lissa and pushing me to vote lissa? And reasoning behind asking taffy to douse maple instead of lissa?
05-18-2025, 01:10
Maple
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Was a vanilla cop, hence giving it out last. Had good odds of yielding a greencheck here, which is kinda annoying.
Only had 1 shot of each (track/jail/VC), think i used it about as well as i could, at least (better than tarot game at minimum lol)
REALLY wish i died before it was proven that my role was out of actions fuck yall for sussing me
vote: taffy
anyway
05-18-2025, 01:11
didistetter
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemma
:bow: Turby Org Vote Counter v1.0 :bow: Day 3 - Votes from post 1171 through 1644
lissa was top wagon after i voted her, waza unvoted, tying, and that's when i swapped to ender.
vote order on ender was pzelda voting with me (afk) -> dya -> maple -> lissa -> my revote
05-18-2025, 01:51
didistetter
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maple
Was a vanilla cop, hence giving it out last. Had good odds of yielding a greencheck here, which is kinda annoying.
Only had 1 shot of each (track/jail/VC), think i used it about as well as i could, at least (better than tarot game at minimum lol)
REALLY wish i died before it was proven that my role was out of actions fuck yall for sussing me
vote: taffy
anyway
@Maple why not give it out second instead of JK? vanilla cop would have more util than JK give claims in play. After arctic death i could have thrown it on like waza/ben/lissa and got a hard green or red?????
05-18-2025, 01:55
didistetter
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
guh
today is gonna be a day of rereading and tracing pairing and now that everyone is out of the 100post iso range that's gonna suck so much.
i dont think maples role (confirmed by visor, me, dya) is compatible with lissa + rasks flips
im gut wary of waza and taffy but i need to do due diligence in checking interactions between lissa and ben/visor/pzelda. I'll try and figure out a good system for backreading that isnt just rereading from pg. 1
05-18-2025, 01:56
Maple
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by didistetter
@Maple why not give it out second instead of JK? vanilla cop would have more util than JK give claims in play. After arctic death i could have thrown it on like waza/ben/lissa and got a hard green or red?????
I prioritized the protective utility esp after 2 protectives had already died. All three roles have very high EV in endgame where they more or less act as green/red checks, so I used the higher utility role earlier, basically.
That's why tracker n1 as well, more resolution on the information.
05-18-2025, 02:00
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by didistetter
@waza talk to me about reasoning on the maple vote swap last min when you were actively sussing lissa and pushing me to vote lissa? And reasoning behind asking taffy to douse maple instead of lissa?
Because the only thing more egregious than Lissas posting at the time was people thinking it was towny and worthy of shielding so I wanted to kill her shielders in the small chance she was town and being tmi’d by wolves
I was in and out through that eod so when I popped back in near the end I saw lissa post something that gave me a little bit of doubt so I swapped to maple
05-18-2025, 02:41
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by didistetter
guh
today is gonna be a day of rereading and tracing pairing and now that everyone is out of the 100post iso range that's gonna suck so much.
i dont think maples role (confirmed by visor, me, dya) is compatible with lissa + rasks flips
im gut wary of waza and taffy but i need to do due diligence in checking interactions between lissa and ben/visor/pzelda. I'll try and figure out a good system for backreading that isnt just rereading from pg. 1
you are wary of me and taffy as a team or individually?
what gives you the idea theres 4 mafia, is this common in gemma setups? last time i played it was 3 iirc
iirc gemma is from dlp
tended to wolfside setupa due 2 same players every game
3 wolves possible tho
05-18-2025, 03:52
didistetter
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by waza
you are wary of me and taffy as a team or individually?
either/or
maple being town to me makes me more wary of LW shenanigans, and your comms when lissa wasnt guaranteed flipping telling taffy who to douse sketched me
3lw would be kinda a lot tho and i dont think maple + arctic + sunbae is anywhere good enough town power to allow for 3 wolves + LW arso
given lissa had a doc......
that one is trippy to me, normally a doc wouldn't protect from arso/poison so it would either be a role made to fakeclaim orrrrrrr 3p
05-18-2025, 03:59
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
i wish there was quickhammer, today feels like it will be another wasted day tbh
taffy will probs get yeeted since maple is confirmed town and wants them and yeah atp i have no issues with letting it happen, im not convinved the game ends with them because it still beckons the question of what rasks role is meant to achieve if him and taffy are w/w but yeah as ive already mentioned i havent read the mechs in detail and am just sponging others who said it shouldnt be 2 pack wolves
05-18-2025, 04:05
Maple
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
ughhhhhhhhhhhhh so there is literally no universe in which taff is a wolf
so shes either 3p or v
but like wtf was she saying yesterday when she was talking to me that looked like a rescind or some shit? i just dont get it, why did she highlight my vengeful target and say she creates vengefuls when atp that is veritably not true
at face value, her douses are stopped by medic abilities since as per her claim, my Jail stopped the Douse. Wolves have 2 anti-her abilities. Village has 1 anti-her abilities + 2 redirectors who can eat douses and live in the form of the BGs
setup spec keeps telling me 3p
her posts keep telling me NOT VILLAGE
so yeah like talk to me yall am i crazy have i done due diligence yet whats up
05-18-2025, 04:16
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Who knows who cares
I thought she was village d2 but everything else she has done confuses me, in particular the use of all her night actions
Ur the clear and u obviously want her dead and well I think that’s needed to progress the game because she hasn’t really posted much anyways
05-18-2025, 04:19
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Personally I just want to see her flip and then you get nkd so I can get back to actually playing mafia instead of having this game be a setup spec simulator which is based on who best knows how the hosts likes the balance games, but I suppose that’s the nature of closed setups
I feel like I’m in the dark constantly because regardless of what alignment taffy is I really don’t understand how any of the roles all exist and I would very much would like to stop having to think about that or it affect my solving and others solving
05-18-2025, 04:20
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
This is why mountainous goat
Anyways probs last post for a long while if not the entire day
I’ll still be lurking around though if something catches my interest
taffy isn't a pack wolf with lissa role + rask role
max douses she can have rn is 3 IF she lied about arctic/lissa
probably one pack maf left—if people REALLY think she's 3p and not maf/town then yeah better to kill today and prevent lighting up
but taffy never ever ever ends the game
so there's still a rask/lissa partner
05-18-2025, 08:01
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by didistetter
taffy isn't a pack wolf with lissa role + rask role
max douses she can have rn is 3 IF she lied about arctic/lissa
probably one pack maf left—if people REALLY think she's 3p and not maf/town then yeah better to kill today and prevent lighting up
but taffy never ever ever ends the game
so there's still a rask/lissa partner
So do u think she’s 3p or lost wolf or town I don’t get the purpose of this post no offense lol
What did you gather from all the reading you were doing
05-18-2025, 10:41
Totally not Taffy
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
I wouldn't have thought I'd have to walk into this lobby and teach werewolf 101 but
Now that we know for sure that Lissa was a wolf, we need to find another in the people who are responsible for killing Ender
That's first and foremost Stett and Maple for being on the wagon
Secondly Happy for unvoting when Lissa/Ender were tied
And in the far distance Benneh who pushed Ender during the day and Pzelda who parked there earlier
Realistically though unless Visor comes with some killer case I can't see myself considering Benneh or Pzelda today
or ever really I'd kill all three of the others first
Actually that's not true, if either Maple or Stett flip wolf the other definitely isn't
And personally I still believe in my D2 assessment that there must be a wolf in Annika/Maple/Stett so
Problem with Stett is I'm the only one who can see her as a wolf
Problem with Maple is the Dyachei kill is actually really helpful for us today and I do agree that probably happened thanks to her having the Cop check
although I don't see how a vanilla cop could lead to a green check tbh, I think there could be a goon
but fact is wolf!Maple could have given that to Pzelda/Benneh/Happy and not forced wolves to make a helpful kill
Of course it isn't helping that all three are wolfsiding today
It makes it hard not to go "Maple/Happy or Stett/Happy game solved"
Taffy (1)
05-18-2025, 10:52
Totally not Taffy
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy
Problem with Stett is I'm the only one who can see her as a wolf
Problem with Maple is the Dyachei kill is actually really helpful for us today and I do agree that probably happened thanks to her having the Cop check
although I don't see how a vanilla cop could lead to a green check tbh, I think there could be a goon
but fact is wolf!Maple could have given that to Pzelda/Benneh/Happy and not forced wolves to make a helpful kill
Actually if we're entertaining the notion of a lost wolf Maple makes a lot more sense than me
because she claimed that if she intersected with the night kill she dies
which is a shit ability to punish a town inventor with
but it would explain her and the NK targets
and why she said that in thread in the first place
Taffy (2)
05-18-2025, 10:58
Totally not Taffy
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Another problem with pushing Maple for me is that we're sort of in the same boat
If we're both town and there are two wolves left then flipping the other is game losing
It makes me very nervous of the Happy/Stett option
I feel like I'm very obviously town especially from EoD3
Taffy (4)
05-18-2025, 11:40
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
No it wouldn’t lol
You claim an ability that hasn’t been verified lol, you didn’t even say who you ignited
Best way to towncase yourself is to actually be present and scumhunt, but it doesn’t help your case accusing me of wolfsiding when I’m the only person aside for ender I think who didn’t townlock lissa for Lol reasons on d1 and actually brought scrutiny to her slot and spent the rest of the time voting rask
05-18-2025, 12:04
pzelda
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by waza
Personally I just want to see her flip and then you get nkd so I can get back to actually playing mafia instead of having this game be a setup spec simulator which is based on who best knows how the hosts likes the balance games, but I suppose that’s the nature of closed setups
I feel like I’m in the dark constantly because regardless of what alignment taffy is I really don’t understand how any of the roles all exist and I would very much would like to stop having to think about that or it affect my solving and others solving
I get the frustration, but this post feels sligly odd coming from you. If I recall it, you were the one asking others to imagine worlds with some players being villas. So, if Taffy isn't a wolf, who is? Why would wolves have a doctor and a defuser, if she were a wolf? Are you betting everything on the lost wolf card?
05-18-2025, 12:05
pzelda
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by waza
This is why mountainous goat
Anyways probs last post for a long while if not the entire day
I’ll still be lurking around though if something catches my interest
Approach the game as mountainous then. Is taffy with Lissa in that case?
05-18-2025, 12:08
pzelda
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy
Actually if we're entertaining the notion of a lost wolf Maple makes a lot more sense than me
because she claimed that if she intersected with the night kill she dies
which is a shit ability to punish a town inventor with
but it would explain her and the NK targets
and why she said that in thread in the first place
Taffy (2)
I wouldn't be surprised to find out that bit was a lie from Maple
05-18-2025, 12:10
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by pzelda
I get the frustration, but this post feels sligly odd coming from you. If I recall it, you were the one asking others to imagine worlds with some players being villas. So, if Taffy isn't a wolf, who is? Why would wolves have a doctor and a defuser, if she were a wolf? Are you betting everything on the lost wolf card?
Bruh
05-18-2025, 12:23
pzelda
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
I think that rereading D1 might be helpful here. Esp early Lissa interactions. I'm on my phone for another 8 hours, but I should get more active later.
Btw waza expecting everyone to just sit on taffy waiting for them to flip was also my first reaction to people pointing out that dya was killed because of the peek, but you posting exactly that after maple pointed out that taffy shouldn't be a proper wolf made me wanna do more.
Ok where I'm at:
Visor - lock town for the way he pushed Lissa
Maple - mechanically should be almost always town. There's a bit I find potentially spicy, but it's a fringe theory. If he were a mafia inventor and he could only hand out gifts to towns and intersecting with their NK would kill him, it would be a very spicy way to counter weight Lissa's joat. But I find that unlikely.
Stett, Waza, Benneh - probably include a wolf, I townlean all of them rn but it's where I should focus my effort.
Taffy - possibly a 3p. Are two redirectors and an inventor enough to counterweight a bomber tho?
05-18-2025, 12:26
pzelda
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Sorry for these comments t be derpy and my English being more broken than it usually is. I'm still waking up after a night out.
05-18-2025, 12:32
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by pzelda
I think that rereading D1 might be helpful here. Esp early Lissa interactions. I'm on my phone for another 8 hours, but I should get more active later.
Btw waza expecting everyone to just sit on taffy waiting for them to flip was also my first reaction to people pointing out that dya was killed because of the peek, but you posting exactly that after maple pointed out that taffy shouldn't be a proper wolf made me wanna do more.
Ok where I'm at:
Visor - lock town for the way he pushed Lissa
Maple - mechanically should be almost always town. There's a bit I find potentially spicy, but it's a fringe theory. If he were a mafia inventor and he could only hand out gifts to towns and intersecting with their NK would kill him, it would be a very spicy way to counter weight Lissa's joat. But I find that unlikely.
Stett, Waza, Benneh - probably include a wolf, I townlean all of them rn but it's where I should focus my effort.
Taffy - possibly a 3p. Are two redirectors and an inventor enough to counterweight a bomber tho?
Probably ???
05-18-2025, 14:06
Visor
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Now the fun part eh
Do y'all just think it's taffy?
Ignore them and maple for now, where would you look
05-18-2025, 14:28
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
Now the fun part eh
Do y'all just think it's taffy?
Ignore them and maple for now, where would you look
Well considering that taffy Stett and Zelda all checked in and the summary of which is:
Stett: provides a lol pairing of me and taffy, says it’s time to reread the game, comes back and concludes there’s a rask and lissa partner which we already assumed may be the case and didn’t say much else
Taffy: provides a lol pairing of me and maple, and a lol pairing of me and stett, then appeals to the people they’re calling scum then dips and didn’t say much else useful
Zelda: comes in and summaries the already nothingburger of posts the other two said, provides a lol post to me asking who is a wolf whilst implying they don’t think it’s taffy, somehow ignores the lol posts the other two slots made and then decides to pick mine apart, then makes a big wall which says nothing new other than concluding there’s “probably” a wolf alive in the people not clear
lol
Just lol
Idk man seems like a wim killer because atleast one of these slots has to be town, maybe more but it’s incredibly hard to parse when I don’t understand what a single one of them is doing which makes it hard to distinguish which is the wolf doing wolf things and which are the villagers doing wolf things
Like lol
05-18-2025, 14:34
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
And why each of these things are just so head scratching is
Stetts main pov is they sus me and the person I tried to vote d1 as the team (lol)
Taffy thinks it’s me and the person I asked to get ignited as the team or me and the other person I asked to get ignited because I was pushing lissa as the team (lol)
Zelda didn’t even give a team read whilst implying it’s odd that I just wanna kill taffy and move on (lol)
But yeah my main pov is that lissa tried somewhat hard to save Taffy at eod d1 and they didn’t do that with Arctic, and that’s good enough reason for me to vote there given that both claimed prs (Arctic) and maple (if real) have been pushing taffy to get killed. Mech wise it still doesn’t make sense for taffy to be pack wolf if I accept what others have said but hey I’ll take Zelda’s advise and play it as mountainous in which case I’d still be voting taffy here if it’s mountainous until they towntell hard (if v)
05-18-2025, 14:35
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by waza
And why each of these things are just so head scratching is
Stetts main pov is they sus me and the person I tried to vote d1 as the team (lol)
Taffy thinks it’s me and the person I asked to get ignited as the team or me and the other person I asked to get ignited because I was pushing lissa as the team (lol)
Zelda didn’t even give a team read whilst implying it’s odd that I just wanna kill taffy and move on (lol)
But yeah my main pov is that lissa tried somewhat hard to save Taffy at eod d1 and they didn’t do that with Arctic, and that’s good enough reason for me to vote there given that both claimed prs (Arctic) and maple (if real) have been pushing taffy to get killed. Mech wise it still doesn’t make sense for taffy to be pack wolf if I accept what others have said but hey I’ll take Zelda’s advise and play it as mountainous in which case I’d still be voting taffy here if it’s mountainous until they towntell hard (if v)
And I’m guessing sunbae felt a bit off about taffy’s claims too otherwise he wouldn’t have claimed he was a pr when he did (but that’s just me guessing )
05-18-2025, 14:37
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by waza
Well considering that taffy Stett and Zelda all checked in and the summary of which is:
Stett: provides a lol pairing of me and taffy, says it’s time to reread the game, comes back and concludes there’s a rask and lissa partner which we already assumed may be the case and didn’t say much else
Taffy: provides a lol pairing of me and maple, and a lol pairing of me and stett, then appeals to the people they’re calling scum then dips and didn’t say much else useful
Zelda: comes in and summaries the already nothingburger of posts the other two said, provides a lol post to me asking who is a wolf whilst implying they don’t think it’s taffy, somehow ignores the lol posts the other two slots made and then decides to pick mine apart, then makes a big wall which says nothing new other than concluding there’s “probably” a wolf alive in the people not clear
lol
Just lol
Idk man seems like a wim killer because atleast one of these slots has to be town, maybe more but it’s incredibly hard to parse when I don’t understand what a single one of them is doing which makes it hard to distinguish which is the wolf doing wolf things and which are the villagers doing wolf things
Like lol
And normally I would just try and ignore the lol takes as best as I can when solving but literally all 3 of them dropped these terrible takes (no offense) and then just dipped
That’s their entire content and I have nothing left to read them off from the day
05-18-2025, 15:08
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
on purity though its probs not stett, despite some really egregious posts she also has some really pure ones. the vote on rask feels like it came from a place of lacking tmi, she openly called him a town flip whilst voting him and i dont think she has that level of wifom in her bag of tricks as scum yet, im sure shes gonna be a super scum one day and will do all kinds of things, but yeah theres enough stuff thats hard to fake that ill probs just call her v
dont think its you because lissa was playing yesterday to survive and her wim instantly just flopped the moment you popped in and said to kill her, so yeah i dont think that was planned
so yeah i can just vote taffy and keep an eye on ben/zelda and figure out who the other town is in there to and hopefully that will give me direction for tomorrow if the game is still going
05-18-2025, 15:11
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
ben 0 posting is probs rand v and the people who know him best (ladd dya and lissa) called him obvious v, yes i realise lissa was a wolf but hey she coulda been telling the truth on that one
so yehhhhh gth taffy>zelda>ben is where im at atm which is ironic given something i said on d1
05-18-2025, 15:21
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by waza
ben 0 posting is probs rand v and the people who know him best (ladd dya and lissa) called him obvious v, yes i realise lissa was a wolf but hey she coulda been telling the truth on that one
so yehhhhh gth taffy>zelda>ben is where im at atm which is ironic given something i said on d1
Technically sunbae also called Ben obv v but that read was more in the pretense of Ben would only tryhard this much as wolf if he were wolfing with sunbae, though I assume Ben and lissa might be tight too so yeah I’ll have to go back and check exactly what sunbae said cos I might be misremembering, but needless to say sunbae thought he was towny enough too
05-18-2025, 17:35
Maple
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
Now the fun part eh
Do y'all just think it's taffy?
Ignore them and maple for now, where would you look
Need to reread, but prob Ben? Need to see if my zelda/waza clears still hold water. I REALLY don't think you're with lissa given [everything]. I don't *think* stett is a wolf, couldn't hurt to check but like lissa talked to her like a villager.
So yeah that's about it.
05-18-2025, 17:38
Maple
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
The counterargumwnt to my zelda clear would be "she spent that day in antispew and the connection between waza/zelda was part of that"
I think waza is SPEWED spewed cause of the stuff whichever wod that was, like lissa latched on like a lifeline
Tho I supposed I underestimated lissa before so like I gotta reread but I feel good about the waza read
05-18-2025, 18:33
Maple
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Taff not claiming douse target is noted
05-18-2025, 19:29
pzelda
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by waza
Well considering that taffy Stett and Zelda all checked in and the summary of which is:
Stett: provides a lol pairing of me and taffy, says it’s time to reread the game, comes back and concludes there’s a rask and lissa partner which we already assumed may be the case and didn’t say much else
Taffy: provides a lol pairing of me and maple, and a lol pairing of me and stett, then appeals to the people they’re calling scum then dips and didn’t say much else useful
Zelda: comes in and summaries the already nothingburger of posts the other two said, provides a lol post to me asking who is a wolf whilst implying they don’t think it’s taffy, somehow ignores the lol posts the other two slots made and then decides to pick mine apart, then makes a big wall which says nothing new other than concluding there’s “probably” a wolf alive in the people not clear
lol
Just lol
Idk man seems like a wim killer because atleast one of these slots has to be town, maybe more but it’s incredibly hard to parse when I don’t understand what a single one of them is doing which makes it hard to distinguish which is the wolf doing wolf things and which are the villagers doing wolf things
Like lol
It's difficult to understand towns if you're a wolf.
(But I guess trying to be active while visiting a friend in another city come across as a loltown. Also, If you're town you're not making it easy for me to see where you're at rn. Your posts are well articulated but what's your actual stance on the three of us? Do you suspect stett? You interacted with them enough to have a pretty solid take.)
05-18-2025, 19:39
pzelda
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Ok, I think waza is town and that the frustration is towny. I'm sorry that my posts can come across as derpy or lol worthy, but I would prefer avoid making this game toxic. I respect your posts and activity and I think that there's a lot of good in your posts.
Stett just feels pure tbh. And I kind of think that them not really moving the game forward is towny. I think they reacted well to waza's pressure and I think that the point about being scared to be wrong is good too.
That leaves the elephant in the room and the most inactive player rn, Benneh. I guess inactivity is due to irl reasons. To me it feels like it's him or taffy and Taffy has mechanical reason to be a villager or a 3p.
05-18-2025, 19:52
pzelda
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
I started rereading D4. Benneh bussing this hard doesn't make sense. Also, I feel like he would have tried to push me as a potential yeet at least once if he had ramded wolf.
I know I'm mostly townread because of my meta and me usually flaking a lot more as mafia. Bur stett, waza and Taffy don't have meta on me and I think he could be able to convince other players too.
So, that last wolf has been either afraid going against consensus or it's afraid of going against their meta read on me. And both Visor and Mantis would be willing to throw their meta in the bin just to miselim me as wolves.
I feel like running in circles, but I'm back to looking at maple/taffy. Tbh everyone else is just town.
05-18-2025, 20:00
nebjiamn
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
im absolutely exhausted from the kdot concert last night and i gotta drive home today. i prob won't check in til tonight
i don't agree that maple is clear because of lissa's role, like, at all. and i don't think taffy is ever a pack wolf (i don't really know if she could be a lost wolf ... i don't remember the details of rasks role atm so i wont close that door but i sorta doubt that too)
i don't like waza's poe for that reason. pzelda is actually someone i expect him to continue shielding here (remembering the ladd post i referenced yesterday about him being a miselim wolves will need at some point)
anyway ill sort some more stuff out once im home and a bit more rested
05-18-2025, 20:10
pzelda
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Actually, we know there's at least one pack wolf left (or there should be). When stett jailkept Lissa, someone else carried the kill. There's a small possibility of taffy igniting, but nah IMHO.
I'm rereading early D1 and tbh some of you had some bad interactions with Lissa. Benneh called her entrance great. Statt just put her straight into their towncore pretending to be a cop. Taffy explained Lissa's reliéf post. Ok, that one was Wolfy, but probably not in a w/w way. Maple had that stretch of fluff posts with Lissa, which I called wolfy D1 and I still could see that as a duo of waffles easing themselves into the game.
Also, Sunbae is goat for catching Lissa in his first post.
05-18-2025, 20:13
didistetter
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by waza
Well considering that taffy Stett and Zelda all checked in and the summary of which is:
Stett: provides a lol pairing of me and taffy, says it’s time to reread the game, comes back and concludes there’s a rask and lissa partner which we already assumed may be the case and didn’t say much else
just got a post sucked by the website which blows so much but:
that was not the conclusion of my readback no lol. I was busy last night and haven't had the chance to do the rereading I want. that's a task for today. It was just popping back in and responding to liveposting. We're not even halfway through the day so cool ur doomering or w/e this is
You aren't my "main sus" b/c, and you're gonna hate this, but I don't have a top sus.
I have no fucking clue who the wolf is lol. I'll do my best to remedy that today. Frankly i think I've still been obvious town and findable, just like... mid at the game.. so calling me a wim killer feels disingenuous, but I do recognize I wasn't very active yesterday. Frankly I think I'm blatantly unpaired from lissa but ymmv
anyways, ping me if u need me. My power is out but I'll parsing through the game with data
05-18-2025, 20:16
didistetter
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by pzelda
Actually, we know there's at least one pack wolf left (or there should be). When stett jailkept Lissa, someone else carried the kill. There's a small possibility of taffy igniting, but nah IMHO.
yeah ^^^^^ there's comf a pack wolf b/c lissa didn't have a rb and either someone else carried OR i was roleblocked and lissa carried, either way ladd had to die and it wasn't by lissa
05-18-2025, 20:18
pzelda
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Is waza happy? I think I played some games with happy and followed his games in the champs. Did you use to have a Nintendo (animal crossing?) character as an avatar? Or was that someone else? I might check the MU.
05-18-2025, 20:21
Visor
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by pzelda
I started rereading D4. Benneh bussing this hard doesn't make sense. Also, I feel like he would have tried to push me as a potential yeet at least once if he had ramded wolf.
I know I'm mostly townread because of my meta and me usually flaking a lot more as mafia. Bur stett, waza and Taffy don't have meta on me and I think he could be able to convince other players too.
So, that last wolf has been either afraid going against consensus or it's afraid of going against their meta read on me. And both Visor and Mantis would be willing to throw their meta in the bin just to miselim me as wolves.
I feel like running in circles, but I'm back to looking at maple/taffy. Tbh everyone else is just town.
i dont understand your argument
its d4?
05-18-2025, 20:23
pzelda
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by pzelda
Is waza happy? I think I played some games with happy and followed his games in the champs. Did you use to have a Nintendo (animal crossing?) character as an avatar? Or was that someone else? I might check the MU.
Ok, the player I had on my mind was holyflare. Lol
05-18-2025, 20:26
pzelda
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
i dont understand your argument
its d4?
It's D5. Do you think Benneh would bus this hard for cred? Maybe I should continue reading. Maybe he was trying to find ways to swing the vote later in the day. But from the look of it and my first impression, he shouldn't be w/w with Lissa.
05-18-2025, 20:32
Visor
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by pzelda
It's D5. Do you think Benneh would bus this hard for cred? Maybe I should continue reading. Maybe he was trying to find ways to swing the vote later in the day. But from the look of it and my first impression, he shouldn't be w/w with Lissa.
uh lissa nearly died d3, why wouldnt he bus d4?
05-18-2025, 20:41
didistetter
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by pzelda
It's D5. Do you think Benneh would bus this hard for cred? Maybe I should continue reading. Maybe he was trying to find ways to swing the vote later in the day. But from the look of it and my first impression, he shouldn't be w/w with Lissa.
lissa was probably a sunk cost yesterday. Mafia aren't trying to save her after such close wagons, and she literally ghosted thread. Care about ben's d1/d2, not his d4
05-18-2025, 21:15
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
im absolutely exhausted from the kdot concert last night and i gotta drive home today. i prob won't check in til tonight
i don't agree that maple is clear because of lissa's role, like, at all. and i don't think taffy is ever a pack wolf (i don't really know if she could be a lost wolf ... i don't remember the details of rasks role atm so i wont close that door but i sorta doubt that too)
i don't like waza's poe for that reason. pzelda is actually someone i expect him to continue shielding here (remembering the ladd post i referenced yesterday about him being a miselim wolves will need at some point)
anyway ill sort some more stuff out once im home and a bit more rested
Ur right I dont like that he’s in my poe
That’s why I referenced the irony in it because I said the exact same thing ladd said on d1 too
I’ll find the quote later
But then where am I wrong? You have had visor as top town all game too so I assume u don’t disagree with me clearing there. Stett was questionable but I went back to d1 and part of d2 and like I said there are moments there which would be hard to fake and idk if she’s there yet as a wolf (I’m sure she will be one day). Sunbae also had Stett as top town. So if I take Zelda as town like you say then all I’m left with is you Ben
05-18-2025, 21:19
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by pzelda
Actually, we know there's at least one pack wolf left (or there should be). When stett jailkept Lissa, someone else carried the kill. There's a small possibility of taffy igniting, but nah IMHO.
I'm rereading early D1 and tbh some of you had some bad interactions with Lissa. Benneh called her entrance great. Statt just put her straight into their towncore pretending to be a cop. Taffy explained Lissa's reliéf post. Ok, that one was Wolfy, but probably not in a w/w way. Maple had that stretch of fluff posts with Lissa, which I called wolfy D1 and I still could see that as a duo of waffles easing themselves into the game.
Also, Sunbae is goat for catching Lissa in his first post.
Thank you lol
I was being baffled that I was in poe when literally everyone else here townread the shit outta lissa
(No I’m not being a salty wolf who thought they were cftwr which I get this post comes across as, but like yeah if I have someone like lissa as my teammate I wouldn’t ever try to jeopardize her thread standing I would just signal boost her trs and let her carry me)
05-18-2025, 21:31
didistetter
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
oh ftr i was trying to project a n0 redcheck on waza as a cop not a green on lissa lol.
I dropped it cause he got townier, i kinda VT slipped, and i'm never gonna FPS my way to a throw by tunneling a fake red
(that was part of what the miller comment was about)
05-18-2025, 21:36
waza
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by didistetter
oh ftr i was trying to project a n0 redcheck on waza as a cop not a green on lissa lol.
I dropped it cause he got townier, i kinda VT slipped, and i'm never gonna FPS my way to a throw by tunneling a fake red
(that was part of what the miller comment was about)
But like… why?
Even if I was a wolf I don’t think I would have picked up on that and just assumed ur pushing me for the sake of pushing me, like I can’t imagine myself as a wolf thinking someone would start with a n0 red on me, what were you trying to achieve by softing that I don’t get it bronana
05-18-2025, 21:40
pzelda
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lissa
I don't have meta but taffy definitely strikes me as someone who would go after a high influence thread leader as a wolf, just from what I know of her like personality.
I think that her entrance was villagery regardless though.
Yeah taffy def not w/w with Lissa IMHO. Also the way she handled stett wasn't w/w. There's a surprising lack of interactions with Benneh (there are no reactions to his activity in her posts while talking about the same topic - Taffy in this case)
05-18-2025, 21:41
pzelda
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lissa
I think benneh is a villager btw.
hmm
I definitely think that as a concept tends toward being wolfy, but I didn't get that vibe from her post; lemme look at it again
taking another look it doesn't feel like the like. SUPER wolfy version of what you're describing imo, the narrativeness is more intertwined into the read? kinda?
idk anything about the meta aspect of it though
I do agree about the narrowness, she does have some oddly narrow interpretations of benneh's behavior. I originally townread her for the like semi almost aggro-ness of parts of that benneh read and kinda for the sunbae read but the former is possibly a personality thing I'm calling villagery too easily I guess?
A very low key way to call Benneh a villager.
05-18-2025, 21:44
didistetter
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
Quote:
Originally Posted by didistetter
i dont actually tr any of visor/ben/annika yet but there's plenty o' time.
sod doesnt feel ~that~ towny to me
you and lissa are my towncore
Interesting
vote: waza
@nebjiamn what made you vote waza in response to this?
05-18-2025, 21:46
didistetter
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
is there an easy way to preserve nested quotes btw? I've been manually like... copy and pasting the quotes into each other all game
05-18-2025, 21:47
pzelda
Re: Gemma's Favorite Music Mafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lissa
Yeah waza's posting around rask is weird unless he's... exactly in a neighborhood with rask lol you're not wrong
Honestly I have no idea what alignment maple is lol
Really feel like I should have some idea
My heart says town but like
I'm really easily pocketed by the kind of thing she's doing this game ngl
Annika feels like a villager
Arctic idk I'll get back to you I think a lot of his posts are after I've read to yet
Why do you feel like you're wolfsiding so far?
Ok, to be fair to Benneh, Lissa started interacting with him after that post. I don't think Benneh has ever responded to the wplfsiding question. Also, this makes me wanna say Maple town.
