The Megapolis

Some updates, first the new game end/win image, each shield different for each faction. Here's Corinthians.
For game end/lost game I see this 3 files in MTW folder:
game_end_eastfactions.BIF
game_end_islam.BIF
game_end_westfactions.BIF
komninos or others, i just have to deal with those 3 files for HTW, right?
http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/Units/end.jpg
Ok, I think HTW must have non medieval formations/orders icons. Tell me what you think? Some others like Reinforcements and kill captured will change.
http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MT...formations.jpg

Hi flip,

Excellent work for both I like them.
Can’t really say what is needed for the game end ... I know that there is also some text files that need changing ...

King Azzole, Trojans will be in the Bronze Age mod along with other nations.

TigerVX, The Legionaries are a side project still. They are not for the period covered and I do wont to get the HTW as it is now out first

BTW ... No one has seen the pictures http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/frown.gif or no one notices any thing different about them ... at least in one of them????

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Quote[/b] (komninos @ May 16 2004,10:12)]BTW ... No one has seen the pictures http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/frown.gif or no one notices any thing different about them ... at least in one of them????

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Nah man, they look awsome. This mod is developing even better then any others. Its a complete conversion. I bet soon you'll be doing your on voice overs =P.

komninos: the dead bodies everywhere? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif

Kom,happy to be back and yes those pics look great
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/bigthumb.gif

CZoF http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wave.gif

Hi zimo http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/bigthumb.gif

Nice to have you back http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/cheers.gif


Hope you had nice holidays http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...-2thumbsup.gif

OK played this a few times. I noticed major unbalanced units. Spartan hoplites are 360 florin to maintain but you can pay about half that and get the same type of unit alittle less powerful that takes an 4th of the time to train.

Also they start poor as hell, you gotta attack immediately to win.

I suggest you incrrease province incomes, start with less buildings and units for slow progression. And please fix spelling errors. I know my spelling sucks also but there are some horrid spelling errors in the game.

Edit : Please dont take this the wrong way this looks very promising and you guys did amazing job so far Just would like to see it balanced http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...-2thumbsup.gif

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wave.gif Antalis

Hi soldier http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/wacko.gif speak to you soon on MSN

CZoF http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/gc-toff.gif

You think Spartans are weak?
I think spartans are totaly crazy to beat...
They have access to the best hoplite in the game, and they can have them very early, so they can beat the crap out of everyone.

I played the spartans when i was outnumbered 5:1 and easyly won the battle.

I'm sure a lot of the balancing will have been done when the next version of HTW comes out (with chariots, elephants ... yummie)
Mind you, if balancing the game isn't done already and will delay the release date... Don't do it I want elephants, yes... Lovely elephants... Oooh... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/gc-blush.gif

Hi all,

Well nobody noticed that there were a couple of Ballistae in the castle siege ... well that’s no news for the MTW but for the HTW ... yes you are going to have them but under the name Euthitonon that was the name used for them along with Gastrafetis and Oxivolos we are working on them at the moment. They will be available in late period only to the Greek factions.
I am also thinking for the Boeotean engine - similar to flame thrower - using the naphtha bomb.
King Azzole we are using new descriptions ... I am the most horrifying speller ... any way when it is out you can have a go at the text files in the LOC\ENG folder.
You are right about the Spartans. In the Early period they are just the most Dorian of the Dorian people. The top honcho are the Argives (Argeans) who invented the Phalanx way of war. Till the Spartans develop some power they will have to fight it out hard with there brotherly neighbors the Argeans and there hated enemies the Messineans. In fact they had to fight two wars with the Messineans to win in the second one. But later (in high period) they will be really powerful.

Kom i will send you a free spell-checker that will integrate with Internet Explorer. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/bigthumb.gif

CZoF http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/cheers.gif

any idea when the mod will be released a few ideas to keep up with the competion

self-install your biggest rival napolen total war has one
and your game looks miles better http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/cool.gif
new music would be cool and n:tw has it
new maps of course

and persians have elephants
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/gc-oops.gif it would be good to have them in other factions http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif

I just think its insane the spartans start with losing 4000 florin a year from the getgo. I might have turned unit size up higher though maybe thats why... Not sure but it seems very hard, like your forcing people to war immediately. Just thought it would be funner if you had just a handful of basic buildings and little units and had to build your city/state from scratch. perhaps in the bronze age mod?

Update, icons for buildings, historical researching almost

http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/Units/m1.jpg

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif wicked this looks brillant

AD 409, that makes the church building understandable. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif

Very nice guys O and happy b-day Rosacrux http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...gc-balloon.gif

Yes, happy birthday Rosacrux http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...gc-balloon.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...gc-balloon.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...gc-balloon.gif

are you there Rosy ? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/cheers.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg.../gc-party2.gif

Wow. First time I looked at it, and amazing. Um... where can I download it? I really don't want to sift through almost 80 pages to find the most recent download, but will if it's the only way to get my hands on this mod. Can't wait for the elephants

I just saw Troy on Sunday and it was awesome http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/bigthumb.gif

Will there be a Mycenaen period on HTW and will the Trojans be a playable faction?

Wow. Just downloaded it, and playing as Macedons. Wow. Brillant work. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/bigthumb.gif

Greetings from all at NTW :D

I must say gentlemen, that these screenshots look great, both the unit and interface graphics show you have a strong design team and some great ideas

Antalis - im liking your new historical battle map images, a great idea i am inspired
Flip and unit team - the new chariots and elephants are really looking great - what a triumph for MTW modding...

so, some questions, will there be period music to add to the atmosphere?
will the upcoming beta have a self install feature?

very well done

kind regards

LTD

Hi Lord Thindigital,

Due to the map thing (Size) we have scraped the music though it is in our thoughts. Though making a cyclic music that will work properly with the MTW engine will need the use of a musician that will actually compose it. I am thinking on some Greek adlibs using fraises form satiric plays or Tragedies but this will take long to make.

The transform of the map TGAs to JGP format due to size problems (the v.2.1 would have been +200MB download with out the JPG transformation) it is really impossible to make a self installer with out someone coding it. Zimoa has pointed me to an installer that I will have to check before I use it to pack things up. I would rather have a self extracting RAR file at the moment. A self installer is something I am thinking about for a long time but I am still skeptic. (Just an other point introduce bugs)

BTW ... there is no “unit” team ... It is just the four of us,
Zimoa - Web developer / moderator
Antalis - Map maker and Historic Battles
Flip - (all aspect) Graphics Designer
Komninos - Well that just me.

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Robert the Bruce16,

When HTW will be out and we all have a nice brake Bronze age TW will start forming. Trojans will be there but probably as a prelude to the Phrygian kingdom along with Mycenaean, Minoan, Pelasgian, Ionean, Dorian and others. A new maps is almost 50% ready for it ... can’t tell more about it.

Hi [{LgtDiv}] Lord Thindigital:


Thank you.


I thought that Historical battle map images should differ from normal maps so I made those special map images.

I´m sure the historical battles that are in developement for NTW will be great.


greetings:

Antalis

Hi laddies, thank you for your greetings regarding my B-day (read: the most important day in the entire human history http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif )

Been absent for a day and with sparse access for the most of the week due to RL (read: job) overload.

But managed to pull a nice party with lots of booze and heaps of girls (and my wife http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/angry.gif for seing them all around http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg.../gc-jester.gif )

Hey ppl

I installed the HTW mod, or unzipped the 3 files actually. Changed the jpg's to TGA's in paintshop pro 8 and then i started it up, left the default size on the units as it is.
put my resolution on 1024*768 (for testing) and then selected a campaign, selected a faction.

Now when i select start campaign, it goes to my desktop anybody knows why and how to fix this? I installed the extra CTD patch also..

(ps. turned virus progs off also)

Only use IrfanView for the conversion of JPEG to TGA or you will have CTD's,a link to this freeware program is at the HTW site.

@Rosacrux http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...gc-balloon.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg.../gc-party2.gif


CZoF

@To all who asked about a selfinstaller:

There will be one.

Count Zimoa of Flanders will make such an installer for the mod http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/cheers.gif

Count Zimoa can u post a link to the download for Irfanview, cause my connection is so slow I wait for years for ur site to load... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...c-computer.gif

It might be an idea to make a second site with less images and effects for the use of slower computers http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/idea.gif

I made a self-installer for testing using our current public version HTW v2.1 Beta.It contains all files and patches,has a uninstall option that works,it will also automatically create a HTW desktop icon and start-up links in your taskbar.Converting JPEG files to TGA is also not needed anymore,ASA i have our new server up i will upload it and change the install links and instructions on the HTW site.So all the old install problems should be over.The file size will be around 63 Mb though.So i'me looking for some ways to compress them also because i will use this for our next version,but be a little patient we are working hard on it,the new version will be around 250 Mb so just wait and see...


CZoF http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...gc-curtain.gif

OK here is a litle something to set you off ...
This is what is coming http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif
This is going to be a long one ...

Pic-1 Pic-2 Pic-3
Pic-4 Pic-5 Pic-6
Pic-7 Pic-8 Pic-9
Pic-10 Pic-11 Pic-12
Pic-13 Pic-14 Pic-15
Pic-16

To Myrddraal:

IrfanView link

http://www.tucows.com/preview/194967.html

CZoF

Hey, for the next release will you have heroes? You can add some with Kataar's hero editor, found at this site. http://www.totalwar.org/cgi-bin....t=18073
It would be more fun with better generals. You probably don't have time, but just asking.

Ok the old HTW v2.1 Beta version is now available as a selfinstalling program,check the HTW site.The file size is about 65 Mb,i downloaded it with a fast connection in less than 10 minutes.

Have fun

CZoF http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wave.gif

First, I would just like to complement you all on an excellent mod. For a long time now I've been looking for just such a game set in hellenic Greece.

I experienced no problems with the installation or CTD issues that so many people seemed to have had. I only encountered one glitch: in battle, dead soldiers immediately disappear. I've been reading other posts and it doesen't appear to be a common problem.

Thanks in advance...

http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/cheers.gif

Update, new info pics

http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/Units/if1.jpg
http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/Units/if2.jpg
http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/Units/if3.jpg

I really like the shrine Very good job Flip http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/bigthumb.gif

BTW what specs will this monster of a game need>? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/tongue.gif

If you cannot reach the site this must be temporarily,no bandwidth problem for sure,and the site is not the problem,it must be the main host-server because i myself cannot exit the service now,so try again later.

CZoF http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/cheers.gif

Tks, time to download and play http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/cheers.gif

After reading many posts about HTW, I salivatingly downloaded the mod, installed it (and moved medieval.cfg into main HTW directory) and double-clicked .... nothing. Just the starting picture of VI. I uninstalled (which also did not work properly as Prince45.tga refuses to be deleted) and reinstalled again in another folder in the MTW main folder... Still nothing Help please ....

You don´t need to move medieval.cfg anywhere (only if you have the turning to another year bug).

Install HTW v21 to a fresh MTW VI201 installation.


If you don´t have the english version read the instructions at the HTW site in the downloadsection.

Using the self-installer you get install instructions BEFORE the install again a readme AFTER the install and again all instructions are on the HTW site in the downloads section.So please people READ,THINK and than when you still have problems post here.
Thank you...

CZoF

I have been trouble figuring out Greek time lines, and how they where supported in the mod.

I have found out the following about timelines:
Mykenian (spelling), from 1650 BC - 800 BC
Hellenic: 800BC - 338BC
Hellenistic: 338BC - 148BC

I have been confused by a few terms and questions:

That greek Dark age, when was that?

and when was Greek Bronze age?

is there really a Hellinic and a Hellenistic time, or is this just the same?

As i see it the late Hellenistic time is no supported in the mod.

The Hellenic period you can call the Greek period when the Greek Democratic City States flourished.
The Hellenistic period is the period after Alexander's rule when great parts of Asia and Africa where ruled by his successors and for many decades came under Greek cultural influence.
For detailed info read these pages:

Ancient Greek info Sites

CZoF http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...gc-curtain.gif

i install the mod like this

download click open
install into c:progam files/mtw and i cick on the shortcut get the viking invasion sign and nothing... please help http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/mecry.gif

Now when the new version i comming, can you please add dates and a BIT more information on the different ages when you choose it for a campaign, i just think it would be SO uncomplete if you guys did all that graphics work and such, and then people are getting confused about dates and periods.

I must still say that terms pre-geometric....is kinds useless information for guys like me, when i began playing the mod, also the general technology i the period would be nice, becouse information like ....in this period Bronze armour and weapons are most commen.... then i would proberly better find out that this is the greek bronze age im gonna play in.

genraly i want DESCRIPTION, DESCRIPTIONS AND INFORMATION

all that graphics are worth nothing if we don't know what the hell are going on.

PS: so far the Worst thing about the Hellenic Mod creators is how low priority the general descriptions are made, if there were better descriptions i think that i would get 25% better enjoyment playing the game.
Im also talking better unit descriptions, im still having trouble navigating the the 30 different types of hoplites in the game, which are best armoured? which have best morale and such...

The installer will by DEFAULT pick as target directory to install itself into:

C:\Program Files\Total war\MTW

But if your MTW:VI v2.1 files are located somewhere else on your disc,make sure that you direct the installer to that mainfile.Before install you see on the right side next to the DEFAULT target directory:C:\Program Files\Total war\MTW a button that allows you to browse through all your files that are on your harddisc and find the proper file where you need to install HTW into.

CZoF

Count Flanders, I do read readme files, so your assumption is wrong. I also recognize the differnce between the DEFAULT and actual folder I installed MTW VI 2.01 into. Furthermore, the entire installation is CLEAN -- I de-installed the entire game and installed it again.

All this is what the installer in the readme file recommends, I have done it. The game itself runs fine, but the HTW won't start.

Help with the installation will be greatly appreciated. Attitude won't be.

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Quote[/b] ]Now when the new version i comming, can you please add dates and a BIT more information on the different ages when you choose it for a campaign, i just think it would be SO uncomplete if you guys did all that graphics work and such, and then people are getting confused about dates and periods.

I must still say that terms pre-geometric....is kinds useless information for guys like me, when i began playing the mod, also the general technology i the period would be nice, becouse information like ....in this period Bronze armour and weapons are most commen.... then i would proberly better find out that this is the greek bronze age im gonna play in.

genraly i want DESCRIPTION, DESCRIPTIONS AND INFORMATION

all that graphics are worth nothing if we don't know what the hell are going on.

PS: so far the Worst thing about the Hellenic Mod creators is how low priority the general descriptions are made, if there were better descriptions i think that i would get 25% better enjoyment playing the game.
Im also talking better unit descriptions, im still having trouble navigating the the 30 different types of hoplites in the game, which are best armoured? which have best morale and such...

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The new version will have all new descriptions some of them are even on the site already besides that v2.1 is a BETA so not complete and it was not our priority because we changed and added so many units that we focussed on the new version from than on.And if you don't get enough pleasure from it wait for the new version or have a look at the unitprod files using Gnome editor and look at the different unitstats or don't play at all...

CZoF

Forgot to mention: I have the English version.

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Quote[/b] ]Help with the installation will be greatly appreciated. Attitude won't be.

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This was not a personnal remark Sir but all the hundreds of useless Q's we get,you sometimes wonder if people read before installing.If you have a genuine problems always glad to help.

CZoF

@Krakra

When you use the taskbar shorcuts will HTW start or still a problem.

CZoF

The only way that HTW won´t work is, if you have installed it into a false directory/folder.


I see that you have the english version, so I don´t know what your problem could be.


The selfinstaller was tested by Count Flanders and by me and it worked perfect.


The only thing you have to do is to search your fresh MTW+VI201 install directory and install HTW to it.
Thats all.


Antalis

The desktop shortcut is also by default set on:
Target
C:\Program Files\Total war\MTW\Medieval_TW.EXE

So if you installed MTW:VI in a different folder and you want the shortcut to work just rightclick on the shortcut go to properties and change the Target file.

CZoF http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...gc-curtain.gif

I will try re-installing it tonight when I get back from work. I have been putting it in the main MTW folder, but under a subfolder HTW -- maybe that is where the issue lies. Another possibility, albeit a small one, is that the downloaded file was corrupted ... although the install won't work then ...

I get the exact same problem that Spartacus described -- the MTW startup picture shows up and then nothing happens.

CZoF, maybe the shortcut is it I will definitely try this first

No, don´t put it to a subfolder in MTW


Thats the reason http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/idea.gif

If you have it in a subfolder that is the problem right http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg.../gc-jester.gif

CZoF http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/cheers.gif

default install c:progamfiles/mtw ok i'll change the shortcut into that folder

this is the trickest self-install ever the new version better be better http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/angry.gif

which of these is right

1.install into existing folder MTW:VI
2use the default install place and change shortcut to there
3.forget it wait for new version, i'm slanting towards opinion 3 this is stuid for a self-install http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/angry.gif

Its very simple to install.

We cannot make it easier.

And we get nothing paid for creating HTW, ok http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif


SO if you want to buy me a ferrary, I will be pleased to answer all the same questions again and again.
But before this: read the readme http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/gc-yes.gif

i'll do option two ok

sorry for the angry moment coming

i follow your self-install insturictions i get nothing what is this a joke how do you get it up. I'm angry at this so much i'll wait for the new version and it better be better than this joke install

oh god why can't be like NTW and your's looks so much better i feel that a beilliant mod as to be spoiled by this awful self-install progam

no offence on the HTW team your doing a great job just sort this out for the new version please and i'll worship you almighty modders http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...c-furious3.gif but hopefully when the new version is out http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/cheers.gif and http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg.../gc-jester.gif

We understand that people without any computer knowledge even will have difficulties with this very simple installer.Like Antalis said we cannot make it more easy if you follow the instructions it will work,it is almost everytime a small thing that causes the Mod not to work.Antalis and i helped hundreds and hundreds of people so follow the instructions step by step and be critic of yourself first.If you get stuck post a good report of what you did and what is not working and most of the time we can help you.There is nothing wrong with the installer it is the man behind it that made a mistake or has a problem and if we have corrupt files your posting helps to find them so please don't get angry so quickly just read,think and try if you get stuck we are here to help you.

CZoF http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...gc-curtain.gif

There is nothing tricky, really nothing.


Its as simple as it can be.

We don´t know where you have installed MTW, so we set the default directory as installations path.
You have to change it by yourshelf to your MTW directory.

Thats the only thing you have to do.

yes i know what your thinking i am thracian on twc

i'll install in my already existing viking invasion folder i hope that will solve it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/confused.gif

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Quote[/b] ]oh god why can't be like NTW

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The NTW installer works exactly the same it only does not create a desktop icons or a un-install option that is the only difference.

CZoF http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...gc-curtain.gif

Hey only 9 posts and we have 2000 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...-2thumbsup.gif

no more replies

on twc antalis told me to install in the c:progamfiles/totalwar/vikinginvasion and promised it will work

I wrote http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif (but it depends if this is the exact name of your install of MTW+VI) :

C:\progamfiles\totalwar\medieval total war viking invasion

ok i have the mod but i have ctd's whenbever i do a custom battle or get to loading screen how do i counter this http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/cool.gif

Are you sure, that you using a fresh installation of MTW+VI?

And have never installed an other mod to it (or installed before HTW into a false folder into it, so that the HTW files are twice there?).

I recomend to install MTW+VI+VI201 patch +HTW v21 again.

fresh installion of MTW then VI add patch install hellenic i'm gonna do that again

if the new version is not long till due release i could wait till then but promise there will be no ctds in the new version http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/cool.gif

There are also none in this version http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif

i'm fresh installing everying what if it still ctd's

Then you have done something wrong, if it still ctds

Ok 2000 replys http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/cheers.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/bigthumb.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...-2thumbsup.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/gc-toff.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg.../gc-party2.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...gc-balloon.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...gc-balloon.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/smokin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wave.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/smokin.gif

i've fresh installed everything and are downloading the mod deleted all mods in my folder, it's gotta work otherwise i give up and i'll wait for the new version http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/angry.gif

Maybe someone can help you from your friends or relatives who has more expierience in modding?