Capo di Tutti Capi IV [Concluded]

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Originally Posted by Erebus

a) Wrote your orders wrong or sent them to the wrong person.

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That's impossible because I CC'ed the orders to 4 people. Seamus, ATPG, Secura, and somebody else. Secura already confirmed it herself.

If the other person quoted my PM and said "sure, that's fine," and apparently STILL got a protection credit according to ATPG, there's absolutely no reason why my orders couldn't be counted.

As for the other points, there is absolutely no way for me to deny it right now. I am just a normal Joe townie who joined a protection racket set up by ATPG and somehow got this mess thrown at myself.

I'll wait till I hear from Seamus before I say anything more.

This reveal was pretty silly, you were behind by 10+ votes and tomorrows lynch targets was all but picked out (assuming he survived the night).

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Originally Posted by Erebus

This reveal was pretty silly, you were behind by 10+ votes and tomorrows lynch targets was all but picked out (assuming he survived the night).

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If Earthling is innocent, I was next on the chopping block. I am not an idiot. If I had not revealed I would have either been killed during Night or everyone would have asked for the reveal to prevent my lynch in day 3.

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Originally Posted by Erebus

This reveal was pretty silly, you were behind by 10+ votes and tomorrows lynch targets was all but picked out (assuming he survived the night).

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And what do I lose from revealing myself, Erebus? If I am shown to be not lying and if Secura relents back, everybody instantly knows that I am a townie. Only townies would band together in an protection racket set up by ATPG in order to gain protection credits to help other townies become Rogue Detectives or doctors. By accusing me, Secura already outed me and herself as a Joe townie.

Unvote: Johhog; Vote: The_Stranger

This ('wagon) I'd like to see.

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Originally Posted by Seon

And what do I lose from revealing myself, Erebus? If I am shown to be not lying and if Secura relents back, everybody instantly knows that I am a townie. Only townies would band together in an protection racket set up by ATPG in order to gain protection credits to help other townies become Rogue Detectives or doctors. By accusing me, Secura already outed me and herself as a Joe townie.

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This was a cross-post. I was actually talking to ACIN.

Oh, man.

Stranger, you don't have the best of luck in roles of mafia, do you?...

Smart thing to do to verify what i have said is just to vig kill him.

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Originally Posted by Erebus

The write up shows 3 cars arriving and a fourth arrive "late" that would explain Secura's story of 3 people successfully putting in Orders and one person with late orders.

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The writeup only shows three cars, with the third having to speed up to cover the absence of a fourth car; the number of protectors is not specified, but the credit for the action only went to myself and two others, which suggests that only three people were present.

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Originally Posted by Seon

That's impossible because I CC'ed the orders to 4 people. Seamus, ATPG, Secura, and somebody else. Secura already confirmed it herself.

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This is completely correct and isn't something I dispute; Seon did send orders to protect our target, well in advance of the rest of us. What I actually dispute is that he did not receive credit for the protection, but I'll wait for his clarification from Seamus before I push further; I'd like to know as soon as you do though, Seon.

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Originally Posted by Erebus

This reveal was pretty silly

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Hardly; even if it's too late to overturn the vote against ACIN/Earthling now, we've got a darn good candidate for the following day phase and this means ACIN's information is out in the open, however metagame-y it's origins.

unvote, vote: The Stranger

I am worried this will turn into a situation where people will switch their votes to Stranger, but it won't be enough and it will be all former Earthling voters which will put me in the lead.

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Originally Posted by Secura

The writeup only shows three cars, with the third having to speed up to cover the absence of a fourth car; the number of protectors is not specified, but the credit for the action only went to myself and two others, which suggests that only three people were present.



This is completely correct and isn't something I dispute; Seon did send orders to protect our target, well in advance of the rest of us. What I actually dispute is that he did not receive credit for the protection, but I'll wait for his clarification from Seamus before I push further; I'd like to know as soon as you do though, Seon.



Hardly; even if it's too late to overturn the vote against ACIN/Earthling now, we've got a darn good candidate for the following day phase and this means ACIN's information is out in the open, however metagame-y it's origins.

unvote, vote: The Stranger

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My point is I was actually silently cheering ACIN resolve to take that secret to the grave. Granted he set himself up with the whole "I have a secret you don't know" post.

You're right about the write up, I was thinking about the shooter mentioned in the write-up (that took out the bat) as the "first" in my head.

unvote, vote: The Stranger

I don't think it's necessarily too late at all to overturn any votes, especially with the people not voting.

We could go for ACIN's named bad guy which will eventually give a reveal and evidence towards ACIN's guilt status completely independently, though I agree with Secura's case that someone is unexplainedly missing from her protection group. Anyway, better than lynching me for protecting other townies and having to wait three to four days to follow up on real suspects. The votes today were decent for information of course but if we can get a lynch that succeeds for the town even better.

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Originally Posted by Erebus

My point is I was actually silently cheering ACIN resolve to take that secret to the grave. Granted he set himself up with the whole "I have a secret you don't know" post.

You're right about the write up, I was thinking about the shooter mentioned in the write-up (that took out the bat) as the "first" in my head.

unvote, vote: The Stranger

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You should have said something. I said I didn't want to have the game play out like this and everyone kept replying and PMing me to just say it. my impression was that no one cared if someone was exposed first day due to a slip up.

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I am worried this will turn into a situation where people will switch their votes to Stranger, but it won't be enough and it will be all former Earthling voters which will put me in the lead.

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I think I've made it clear I'm not particularly trying to lynch you either, only for a lack of alternatives, and would be behind a plurality Stranger vote should the evidence there be obviously true.

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Originally Posted by Earthling

I don't think it's necessarily too late at all to overturn any votes, especially with the people not voting.

We could go for ACIN's named bad guy which will eventually give a reveal and evidence towards ACIN's guilt status completely independently, though I agree with Secura's case that someone is unexplainedly missing from her protection group. Anyway, better than lynching me for protecting other townies and having to wait three to four days to follow up on real suspects. The votes today were decent for information of course but if we can get a lynch that succeeds for the town even better.

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EDIT: nvm

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Originally Posted by Earthling

I think I've made it clear I'm not particularly trying to lynch you either, only for a lack of alternatives, and would be behind a plurality Stranger vote should the evidence there be obviously true.

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Want to both switch our votes to Stranger in a symbolic gesture?

​unvote; Vote: Stranger

​unvote; Vote: Stranger Think it's too late though...

What is the tally?

unvote: abstain
vote: the stranger

I pity you Stranger, but a man has do what he has to do to survive in this world. Your journey - it ends today.

Or tommorrow. Or tonight. You'll be dead soon.

unvote: Seon

Vote: The Stranger

ACIN, you've contradicted yourself, self-voted, lied, and generally acted like a massive scumbag.

I see no reason to trust you on your accusation of The Stranger, which very well may just be you making up BS.

Vote: ACIN

Earthling 29
ACIN 19

The Stranger 5
Chaotix 4

As of Post 770

Current tally is...

Earthling: 30
ACIN: 19
Stranger: 7

I doubt we will get enough people for stranger this round.

7 Votes is right on stranger is correct.

Vote: ACIN

Bloody hell, I can't read all this tonight. :no:

vote: acin

Mostly because of the self-vote, which is manipulative, which I disapprove. Town players should never do it.

Also, if I remember correctly, acin self-voted in ATPG Mafia 2 where he was Scum.

No idea if Earthling deserve that many votes so early. The only case I've read (but I haven't read all the posts) was ATPG accusing him of using the word "wobbly" as a mean to contact communist players. Not even sure if this is serious. Anyway, my vote's on acin, he's the only player I have a valid reason to vote for, at this point.

Romanic can I impersonate you on Steam again?

[QUOTE=Romanic;2053374687Not even sure if this is serious.[/QUOTE]

It's obviously not serious at all. pizza knows that too, whatever he's pretending to be. I wouldn't mind a detective scanning me of course but they'd find I'm not communist, nothing but us townies here.

The very good reason not to kill me, if you missed it, is because I was with the townie group that protected slash and earn. That evidence could be guaranteed out should we all live, or a detective scans me, or any other simple thing involving not lynching for no reason here, or the real mafia will try to kill me tonight but I'm only putting myself at risk, the others go on no matter what happens to me.

The real question is who (scum/scum wannabes) wants me dead because of doing protection, and is not giving reasons/fake reasons here. That could be a lot of people, they didn't know my partners or necessarily that we were the ones on slash and earn, but could easily just want a townie going for protection gone as a wasted lynch.

I would kindly ask you to contribute to the Stranger wagon right now though. It does not seem too late for votes to change, ACIN is only a choice because of lack of alternatives and if Stranger is a wrong lynch ACIN is done, period, if it's right that does help the town.

Vote: ACIN

What Choxorn said.
And I see Earthling lynched too often. It hurts my eyes.