Mafia VIII: Return of the Recommencement of the Revenge of the Mafia [Concluded]

As with Count Arach I'm right in the middle of my Uni exams atm. I'm trying to be as active as possible to help the town, but I can't go into as much detail as I'd like.

If you'll compare to earlier games I always post at least once every day. It seems anal but I like to keep on top of things.

If you don't believe me thats fine, lynch me, but you're wasting your time, if you think my 'changed posting style' is down to anything other than RL.

Will try to be more helpful from now on, but last exam is not until monday.

dang, I guess this wasn't the smoking gun I was hoping for:shame:

Not a smoking gun, but thats exactly the sort of analysis we need right now.

@ Tincow: will look up and post said PMs. (There were quite a few).

Edit: Rather than double post here are the PMs, that Kev was referring to.

Original: I contacted Kev, as we had a fair amount of contact in Taormina, and I was really curious about his WIFOM,

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Originally Posted by Curio

Hey Kev,

And too think that I was going to vote for you in vengeance for stringing me along.

What's your reasoning behind your massive WIFOM? I'm just curious, because the way you stated it was so blatantly OTT, that it seems unlikely that you are mafia. Unless its a massive double bluff... (shock horror).

Consider this an olive branch (although really I have no hard feelings about Taormina... it just proves I really am that naive). If you want to share any thoughts, and if you survive, I'm ready to share (although of course you won't be so blindly trusting as me).

Curio

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To which he replied,

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Originally Posted by Kev

Hi Curio!

I'm very much just a simple townie this game. I don't expect you to believe that but that is ok. Since I win if the town wins, I don't care if I die. There are no good lynch choices on the first day so someone needs to be the first. I don't mind if that is me. While dead, I will still talk in the thread and try to help out.

I look forward to playing with you again!

Townies unite!

Kev

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Then:

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Originally Posted by Curio

Excellent, thats one townie so far... :laugh4:

On the other hand you can't PM after death can you, ah well. Contribution=conversation=bad for mafia, and that you can provide.

That said I'm going to random.org for my vote. :laugh4:

Hope you survive,

Curio

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And Kev replied:

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Originally Posted by Kev

Ironically, it might be you that is fooling me this time. That would be poetic...

Either way, It is good to talk to you again. I felt bad lying in Taormina even though it was just a game.

Kevin

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Feeling in a magnamonius mood, I replied with;

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Originally Posted by Curio

Ironically I've just been replying to a thread regarding forgiveness.

Your sins are forgiven, my son, go forth into the world and sin again, I shall be waiting. :laugh4: (my sincere apologies if you are devout).

Its a game where the aim is to lie, cheat and decieve.
That you completely fooled me was down to your skill as a player and my innate weakness, which is to be way too trusting of other peoples motives. I'd be a terrible mafioso.

In other news its not looking good for you...

Curio

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In reply (and apologies if you don't want this here Kev, just let me know)

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Originally Posted by Kev

Actually I'm an atheist so it is even more amusing.

:D

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When Kev was granted a reprieve, for 24 hours I Pm'd him again with this (trying to get him to vote for Sasaki and thus survive, you gather that his WIFOM intrigued me, and genuinely wn my trust):

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Originally Posted by Curio

A reprieve, however short.

I'm a little confused as to why Sasaki is making no effort to defend himself. Possibly he's trying to make himself as inconspicuous as possible and let you talk yourself into a lynch, and him out of one.

While I can see exactly what you are saying with regards to your reasons to be lynched, (someone has too, you'll still contribute, its better this way, etc.), the fact remains that if what your saying is true, and that seems to be the case, we are losing a townie and the chance to lynch a mafioso.

While martyrdom is all very noble, looking at it from a footballing point of view its like losing a 'six-pointer'. No chance of a dead mafioso, and losing a townie.

Which leads me to your main rival for the noose, Sasaki. While it is admittedly unlikely that he is mafia (I mean there is no evidence for or against anybody really), he is acting normally (for him), and he shouldn't have to defend himself, the fact remains that he is doing exactly what he did in Taormina, trying to fade into the background and avoid notice, and avoid a lynching due to other supposedly better candidates being put up. He has more guile in his little finger than I do in my whole body. If he is mafia, he now has the chance to fool us once again.

Now this may sound like paranoia, but it is true that he, from his actions thus far, is much more likely to be a mafioso. Your WIFOM, in fact makes it very likely that you are innocent.

I highly recommend that you at least try to avoid a lynching.

If not,

Ave atque Vale

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To which Kev answered:

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Originally Posted by Kev

Hi Curio,

Yeah, it is a short break.

As to my strategy, there seems to be zero chance at finding mafia in the first day turn. So one of us has to go. It might as well be someone who we know will be active.

I doubt Sasaki is mafia. He is way too obvious right now. Everyone suspects him because he is Sasaki. I don't think GH would give him the role because he knows Sasaki will be bandwagoned on turn 1.

I'll stick with what I'm doing and see where it takes me.

Kevin

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Almost there:

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Originally Posted by Curio

Almost zero chance of finding Mafia on turn 1, not zero.

I'm guessing GH distributed the roles via random.org or something, hence Sasaki, is just as likely as anyone else right now. It might be bad luck on Sasaki's part, and he may have an increased chance of getting lynched early. But as we have seen, if he successfully negotiates the first few rounds he can give off the impression of innocence extremely well.

He plants an element of doubt in people's minds, and then they don't tend to lynch him, due to his 'usefulness' to the town. This is bearing in mind of course that I've only seen him as mafia once.

Kudos for sticking with it, but I predict that if you do survive, you're likely to have impressed enough people that you won't be bandwagonned again for a while (I'm guessing).

And btw the reason I spent that whole post attacking Sasaki wasn't because I necessarily think him any more likely than anybody else, just its more likely than you (although you probably already worked that out)

Curio

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And Kev's final words...

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Originally Posted by Kev

your right, it is almost zero.

Anyways, we'll see how this goes. If I get lynched, feel free to continue PM'ing me. As long as we don't talk about the game while I'm dead, I see nothing wrong with it. I enjoy our conversations. It seems people got tired of arguing on the Socialism thread.

Kevin

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Thats all the PMs that have been exchanged between me and PrivateerKev that have a bearing on the game. Kev can (and I'm assuming will) confirm that these are genuine and unaltered.

I don't blame anyone for being suspicious of me, but as I've said RL issues have forced me to post differently to usual.

There is also the fact that in Taormina, my jumping up and down like a lunatic on some people ended up in townies getting lynched, so I decided to be a touch more cautious. And finally, much of my 'analysis' in Taormina was based on Andres' write-ups. While I'm fairly good at textual analysis, I'm absolutely hopeless at reading people (Remember Kev fooling me completely in Taormina anyone?). Thats all I have to say in my defence, and seen as I have to vote...

I'm going to Vote: Sasaki.

Other people who know Kommodus have said that his style is to lurk and not say much even when town. Also I didn't expect so few votes to be cast. While Sasaki is much more skilled at avoiding suspicion than this usually I'm taking a punt and saying that he'd be much more dangerous than Kommodus If he was mafia and we let him live.

I confirm that those are all of the PM's we exchanged until I was lynched and the PM's have not been altered. They really were that boring in terms of talking about the game. Not much happened N1 or D1 to speak of.

BTW, I don't care if the "atheism" PM is in there. I have made no attempt to keep my views secret. I just ask that any discussion of it be confined to PM's or the Backroom. I don't think GH would appreciate a religious conversation developing in his game thread.

I'd like to believe Curio's reason for being busy. My guess is that he is telling the truth. Others seem like much better lynch choices.

Aye-yi-yi. A tie-breaker on a 2x2 vote. Not exactly a mandate, or clear suspicion track.

vote: Sasaki,

not because I'm convinced absolutely of his guilt, but because IF he is mafia, he is the bigger threat to the town, IMO. That's a compliment to him. :bow: If he's town, he's not helping us at the level he often/usually plays at.

I dunno about Seamus. He sent me a mixed PM early in the game, mostly about some org backroom business, with a gentle remark at the end that suggested I should maybe, kinda, sorta, like look to defending myself in this game thread, and that he thought I had a role. Unsure what he meant exactly, I assured him I was a townie, and forgot about it. Later, I saw his analysis of posting patterns. Now I wonder if that PM was actually a probe from a mafiosa, looking for a potential partner, or adversary.

FoS: Seamus.

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Originally Posted by KukriKhan

I dunno about Seamus. He sent me a mixed PM early in the game, mostly about some org backroom business, with a gentle remark at the end that suggested I should maybe, kinda, sorta, like look to defending myself in this game thread, and that he thought I had a role. Unsure what he meant exactly, I assured him I was a townie, and forgot about it. Later, I saw his analysis of posting patterns. Now I wonder if that PM was actually a probe from a mafiosa, looking for a potential partner, or adversary.

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That is interesting. He contacts you early in the game and then later does an analysis of post counts and puts you in there when he clearly left others out. He must have given up on you at some point.

Sasaki being a goof, nothing unusual about that.

Kommodus sucks as mafia, so while he might be if he is soon he will tip his hand I think.

That aside I find Sasaki's actions less 'suspicious' then K's if only because from what I know Sasaki's bevahior is less out of line then K\s

Vote:Kommodus


Sorry old partner in crime.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

As I recall, you always take particular care as mafia not to get red flagged by your own analysis. What do you think of Kommodus? Why do you think I'm guiltier?

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Guiltier than Kommo: I don't know that I do. I developed an impression based on your series of posts over the first few day/night phases. Your last posts sound/read very much like the "normal" Sasaki. I guess, in part, it was your Backroom activity level that -- to me -- suggested your "limited" posting here wsn't ringing true.

Kommo: Kommo is also way off norm and not contributing. If the vote slides his direction, I will not feel it wasted effort by the town. For me it is Kommo (Negative suspicions) then Kukri (sniff of role...but which?) next unless better evidence surfaces.

Particular Care: Yep, I have and will continue to do so. As you noted some posts ago, I try to play so that I may play again without all my subsequent efforts being pointless. Nevertheless, anyone running the numbers on me or analyzing the tone of my posts since the analysis came out should get a good sense of how I'm running in this game.

NOTE: I PM'd Kukri after my analysis post was put up, but prior to his seeing it in the thread. I still think he's got a role...just not sure what.


GH:

Sorry for the confusion, I was flipping through my excel records on those games too quickly. I was mafia with Reenk and townie in the other and in M6 as you noted. Reenk was a wonderful mafioso -- he really could drive folks bats. Also, I haven't entirely forgiven you for getting me lynched when I revealed you as mafioso. I am still in awe of how you (and the eyeless one) pulled that off!

I'll stick with my initial vote: Kommodus

Tally:

Sasaki: 4 (Gaius, Ichigo, Kukri, Seamus)
Kommodus: 3 (Disco, Sasaki, Sigurd)

not voting: 12 (Beefy, Caius, CountA, FH, Joe M, Kage, Kommodus, Khann, RK, Sara, Shlin, Tib)

vote: Abstain
Sasaki seems to have turned more "normal" now, and Kommodus still hasn't talked. I'm thinking of letting him live in the hopes of him posting some analysis later in the game as he so often does.

As I said earlier I don't think that Kommodus is playing as he would if he were mafia. Vote: Sasaki for that reason.

N2:

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The birds had returned since the unexpected disturbance of their morning routine yesterday, although they were not singing, as if wary that there would be a similiar breaking of the silence today.

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I added

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Andre, out of breath, stopped automatically to wave back and chat with the man. "Excellent morning for running, I do say," he said aimiably.

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S missing, I added

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Craterus, deep in the Frontroom marshes, watched the ducks fly away with his high-powered binoculrs.

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A missing

D2:

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Apparently not having got the message, this obviously coldhearted, callous, unfeeling individual quickly earned the ire of everyone around him by cracking (bad) jokes, voting for weird reasons, and generally ot taking the process seriously.

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N missing

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You ee, thanks to the OBI's meddling, I didn't even have an execution planned. Anyway, go back to your homes and hope we made the right decision.

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S missing

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"Downtown," he muttered, pocketing his bioculars and getting into his old blue car. From what he gathered, it had to be there, consdering that the birds were flying in all directions away from that area and that he had heard the shot from his house, meaning that it was probably fired on a roof where there wasn't much to block the sound from going far.

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N missing, I missing

D3:

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An outside observer witnessing this scene might have noted that the villagers of the Frontroom were perhaps too into it, chanting and screaming and calling for engeance.

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V missing

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Pressing a button, a propellor popped out of the top of Beirut's police hat

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should be E instead of O

N4:

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Instead, he creaned his neck around and watched as the mafioso walked into the barn, whistling a merry tune.

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E added

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Once it was done to suffiency, the mafioso stepped back (way back) and flicked the still-lit cigar onto his victim.

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C missing, I missing

D4:

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But of course, he didn't shoot, as if restrained by some unspoken force, some overser of the town.

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E missing

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Eventually, things finally sorted themselves out (after Parking Wars had finished, of course), and TinCow, lawyer extraordinare, was determined guilty of killing several citizens of the Kingdom of Peace and Love.

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I missing

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It is committed when the actor, still you, acting either alone or with one or more other persons, is engaged in the commission of, or an attempt to commit, or flight after committing or attempting to commit robbery, sexual assault (doesn't really apply to you, or at least I hope it doesn't), arson, burglary, kidnapping, carjacking, criminal escape or terrorism perusant to section 2 of P.L.2002, clause 26 (C.2C:38-2), and in the course of such crime or of immediate flight therefrom, any person causes the death of a person other than one of the participants; except that in any prosecution of this subsection, in which the defendant was not the only participant in the underlying crime, it is an affirmative defense that the defendant

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perusant should be pursuant

should be U instead of E. Don't know how to handle letters that are there but out of place.

therefrom has a "space" missing

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any person convicted under subsection a.(1) or (2) who committed the homicidal act by his own conduct; or who as an accomplice procured the commission of the offense by payment or promise of paymentof anything of pecuniary value, pecuniary defined by dictionary.com as an adjective; 'of or pertaining to money'; or who, as a leader of a narcotics trafficking network as defined in N.J. Section 2, Clause 35-3, and in furtherance of a conspiracy enumarated in N.J. Section 2, Clause 35-3, commanded or by threat or promise solicited the commission of the offense, or, if the murder occured during the comission of the crime of terrorism, any person who committed the crime of terrorism, shall be sentenced by the court to life imprionment without eligibility for parole (for our purpose, we'll change this section to read 'immediate execution'), which sentence shall be served in a maximum security prison (again, this will be changed), if a jury finds beyond a reasonable doubt that any of the following aggravating factors exist:

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"space" missing, should be U instead of A, R missing, M missing, S missing

N5:

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Suddenly curious and forgeting about all of the windows, Rythmic picked up right where he left off, closely listening for the sound of drums.

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For whatever reason, he was envisioning terrble things.

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I missing

Here is all of the letters in order they were found:

I S I A N S N I V E/O E C I E I U/E "space" "space" U/A R M S T I

Added letters only: I I E

Missing letters only: S A N S N I V C I E I R M S T I

Switched letters only: E/O, U/E, U/A

I'm inclined to go with only the missing letters and disregard the others. Some spelling errors are bound to occur, and the very uneven distribution in favor of the missing letters indicates that those are intentional. The added and switched might be intentional, but they might just be innocent mistakes. The missing letters are clearly intentional. Regardless, neither the complete sequence nor the missing letters only sequence say anything in English. They also do not appear to be in any foreign language. It is therefore my opinion that the sequence is either an anagram or a code. As with before, I think an anagram is almost impossible to solve before it is completed, so I think the best time investment on our part right now is to look for a code in the letters. I would suggest crunching through it with simple substitution cyphers to see what we can come up with.

[edit]It just occurred to me that if it's a code, the added and switched letters could also indicate breaks between words or some other kind of formatting.

[edit2]I've changed my mind on the added and swapped letters. If they were simple spelling errors, GH probably would have corrected them. The fact that they continue to occur after so many write-ups indicates that he is intentionally leaving them in there. They probably have some part to play in this.

One option is that the swapped letters could be a clue about how to solve this. If this is a substitution cypher, the swapped letters themselves could be direct clues as to which letters to swap.

Voting over.

Stand by for the execution.

For the second straight day, Chief of Police Beirut was presiding over the town's voting ritual longer than he wished. Of course, he didn't want to do this at all, for that would mean there were no mafiosi, but still... that wasn't the point. The television beckoned.

After completing his tally of the run-off between Sasaki Kojiro and Kommodus, Beirut breathed an audible sigh of relief. There would be an execution. "Sasaki Kojiro," he boomed, "You are hereby found guilty of murder. Please make your way up to the execution platform."

As always, the crowd was all too happy to assist in this matter. Sasaki, still looking for a way that he could get out of this, was dragged up to the platform and thrown at Beirut's feet. He looked up at the Chief of Police.

"You're not going to read the definition of what I didn't do to me, are you?"

"No," said Beirut. "I learned my lesson the last time."

"You're not going to cut my tongue out and bury me alive with tarantulas, are you?"

"No."

"You're not going to kick me 300-style into the angry mob, are you?"

"Uh... no," said Beirut, silently cursing. This was taking too long.

"You're not going to immolate me while you fly away on your little helicopter-hat, are you?"

"No, I'm not!" said Beirut, his anger gettin the better of him. "I'm going to kill you in my own special way! No more questions!"

"What do you mean, 'no more questions?' Sasaki asked. I think I deserve knowing the way I'm going to die."

Off to the side, audible grunts could be heard from a group of short, stupid-looking people wearing black. They were all holding onto a rope which extended somewhere far off. The grunts slowly turned to groans. "Shut up, Epsilons," Beirut said. A couple more groans, and then there was silence. Turning back to Sasaki, he looked like he was going to say something but decided against it.

Sasaki continued, hoping he had found an opening. "I mean, it's my last day alive. Sure, you think I'm a mass murderer, but there's no way of PROVING it. And in other prisons, even the mass murderers that have been convicted by DNA testing, who have confessed to the crimes, and who have probably killed a couple of prison guards in failed escape attempts, get a nice last meal and some final comfort. And here I am, standing up here on an execution platform in cold weather, having cooperated. I think that maybe I deserve some final hours of comfort before my own impending death, especially considering there's no appeals process here, which usually take months and years."

This time, everybody groaned. The master manipulator was at it again; why couldn't Beirut see this?

"Well... uh..." The Chief of Police was stumbling over his words. "Okay, I suppose. Do you know how to cook?"

"Yes," Sasaki said.

"Go home and make yourself a last meal. I expect you back here within two hours."

"Two hours?" Sasaki said. "Two hours is not a proper time to prepare a proper seven-course meal!"

"Fine," snapped Beirut. "Five hours. And no more." And thus, with everyone in town staring in open-mouthed shock, as well as hatred, Sasaki calmly strolled to his house with an evil smirk on his face."

"Suckers," he muttered. "Five hours is plenty of time for me to pack up and get out of this plce."

Back at the execution platform, Beirut ordered everyone to stay, having to repeat it several times due to general complaining. He ignored it all, constantly checking his watch, waiting for something to happen. Finally, when about twenty minutes (the estimated amount of time it would take for Sasaki to walk back to his house) elapsed, Beirut spoke to the people holding the rope.

"All right, Eplisons," he said, "Let 'er go!"

Twenty minutes (walking distance) away, Sasaki Kojiro, and his entire house, was crushed by a massive, multi-ton weight dropping directly down. He had no idea it was coming or that he had been tricked.

Day 5a tally:

Sasaki Kojiro: 5 (Ichigo, Seamus Fermanagh, Gaius Scribonius Curio, KukriKhan, CountArach) :skull:
Kommodus: 3 (Sasaki Kojiro, discovery1, Sigurd Fafnesbane)

Abstained: 1 (FactionHeir)
Didn't vote: Everybody else.

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Still alive: (18)
Ichigo
RoadKill
shlin28
makaikhaan
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Caius
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Sarathos
Beefy187
Tiberius of the Drake
KukriKhan
CountArach
Kommodus
Seamus Fermanagh
Kagemusha
discovery1
FactionHeir
Joe Monks

Suicide/Wrath of God:
|Sith|R|AntiWarmanCake88
Mithrandir
Fenring
Lord Winter
georgeman51

Killed:
Tratorix
Omanes Alexandrapolites
Andres
Craterus
LittleGrizzly
TevashSzat
Crazed Rabbit
woad&fangs
Rythmic
Quintus.J.Cicero

Executed:
Privateerkev
Elite Ferret
peverpink
TinCow
Sasaki Kojiro

PMs please.

N2:

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The birds had returned since the unexpected disturbance of their morning routine yesterday, although they were not singing, as if wary that there would be a similiar breaking of the silence today.

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I added

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Andre, out of breath, stopped automatically to wave back and chat with the man. "Excellent morning for running, I do say," he said aimiably.

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S missing, I added

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Craterus, deep in the Frontroom marshes, watched the ducks fly away with his high-powered binoculrs.

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A missing

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Apparently not having got the message, this obviously coldhearted, callous, unfeeling individual quickly earned the ire of everyone around him by cracking (bad) jokes, voting for weird reasons, and generally ot taking the process seriously.

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N missing

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You ee, thanks to the OBI's meddling, I didn't even have an execution planned. Anyway, go back to your homes and hope we made the right decision.

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"Downtown," he muttered, pocketing his bioculars and getting into his old blue car. From what he gathered, it had to be there, consdering that the birds were flying in all directions away from that area and that he had heard the shot from his house, meaning that it was probably fired on a roof where there wasn't much to block the sound from going far.

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N missing, I missing

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An outside observer witnessing this scene might have noted that the villagers of the Frontroom were perhaps too into it, chanting and screaming and calling for engeance.

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V missing

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Pressing a button, a propellor popped out of the top of Beirut's police hat

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O should be E

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Instead, he creaned his neck around and watched as the mafioso walked into the barn, whistling a merry tune.

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Once it was done to suffiency, the mafioso stepped back (way back) and flicked the still-lit cigar onto his victim.

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C missing, I missing

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But of course, he didn't shoot, as if restrained by some unspoken force, some overser of the town.

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Eventually, things finally sorted themselves out (after Parking Wars had finished, of course), and TinCow, lawyer extraordinare, was determined guilty of killing several citizens of the Kingdom of Peace and Love.

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I missing

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It is committed when the actor, still you, acting either alone or with one or more other persons, is engaged in the commission of, or an attempt to commit, or flight after committing or attempting to commit robbery, sexual assault (doesn't really apply to you, or at least I hope it doesn't), arson, burglary, kidnapping, carjacking, criminal escape or terrorism perusant to section 2 of P.L.2002, clause 26 (C.2C:38-2), and in the course of such crime or of immediate flight therefrom, any person causes the death of a person other than one of the participants; except that in any prosecution of this subsection, in which the defendant was not the only participant in the underlying crime, it is an affirmative defense that the defendant

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perusant should be pursuant

E should be U. U should switch with S

therefrom has a "space" missing

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any person convicted under subsection a.(1) or (2) who committed the homicidal act by his own conduct; or who as an accomplice procured the commission of the offense by payment or promise of paymentof anything of pecuniary value, pecuniary defined by dictionary.com as an adjective; 'of or pertaining to money'; or who, as a leader of a narcotics trafficking network as defined in N.J. Section 2, Clause 35-3, and in furtherance of a conspiracy enumarated in N.J. Section 2, Clause 35-3, commanded or by threat or promise solicited the commission of the offense, or, if the murder occured during the comission of the crime of terrorism, any person who committed the crime of terrorism, shall be sentenced by the court to life imprionment without eligibility for parole (for our purpose, we'll change this section to read 'immediate execution'), which sentence shall be served in a maximum security prison (again, this will be changed), if a jury finds beyond a reasonable doubt that any of the following aggravating factors exist:

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"space" missing, A should be U, R missing, M missing, S missing

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Suddenly curious and forgeting about all of the windows, Rythmic picked up right where he left off, closely listening for the sound of drums.

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For whatever reason, he was envisioning terrble things.

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"No, I'm not!" said Beirut, his anger gettin the better of him. "I'm going to kill you in my own special way! No more questions!"

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"Suckers," he muttered. "Five hours is plenty of time for me to pack up and get out of this plce."

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"All right, Eplisons," he said, "Let 'er go!"

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L should switch with S

All letters in order:

+I -S +I -A -N -S -N -I -V O=E +E -C -I -E -I E=U U/S +"space" +"space" A=U -R -M -S -T -I -G -A L/S

There has now been 7 "voting phases".

1 voting phase: zero

2 voting phases:
RoadKill: voted D1, D3
Caius: voted D1, D3
Tiberius of the Drake: voted D1, D3

3 voting phases:
Kommodus: voted D1, D4, D4TB

4 voting phases:
discovery1: voted D1, D3, D4TB, D5TB
Kagemusha: voted D1, D2, D3, D4
Joe Monks: voted D2, D3, D4, D4TB

5 voting phases:
Ichigo: voted D1, D2, D3, D4, D5TB
Beefy187: voted D1, D2, D3, D4, D5

6 voting phases:
CountArach: voted D1, D3, D4, D4TB, D5, D5TB
KukriKhan: voted D1, D2, D3, D4, D4TB, D5TB
Sigurd Fafnesbane: voted D1, D3, D4, D4TB, D5, D5TB
shlin28: voted D1, D2, D3, D4, D4TB, D5
makaikhaan: voted D1, D2, D3, D4, D4TB, D5
Sarathos: voted D1, D2, D3, D4, D4TB, D5

7 voting phases:
Gaius Scribonius Curio: voted D1, D2, D3, D4, D4TB, D5, D5TB
Seamus Fermanagh: voted D1, D2, D3, D4, D4TB, D5, D5TB
FactionHeir: voted D1, D2, D3, D4, D4TB, D5, D5TB

The swapped letters are looking increasingly intentionally placed. Perhaps they indicate breaks between words, with the double space being a break between two names? The question is whether the swapped letters are just a marker (like a break) or whethe they are themseles part of the code. I've tried running these things through some basic substitution cyphers, but nothing has jumped out at me yet. We've got enough letters now that it should be possible to start finding something, though. I urge a general public code-breaking movement on everyone's part during this night phase.

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I S I A N S N I V E/O E C I E I U/E "space" "space" U/A R M S T I G A S/L

missing letters only: S A N S N I V C I E I R M S T I G A

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This part: I S I A N S N I V

Is an anagram of "sin is vain". However I can't find any likely sounding anagrams for the "whole word" before the spaces. The switched letters don't appear to be word markers either, at least not if anagrams are the way to go. I considered that E/O means the letter between E and O which would be J (M for U/E). But that doesn't make an anagram either.

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Originally Posted by TinCow

The swapped letters are looking increasingly intentionally placed. Perhaps they indicate breaks between words, with the double space being a break between two names? The question is whether the swapped letters are just a marker (like a break) or whethe they are themseles part of the code. I've tried running these things through some basic substitution cyphers, but nothing has jumped out at me yet. We've got enough letters now that it should be possible to start finding something, though. I urge a general public code-breaking movement on everyone's part during this night phase.

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There are 4 basic types of "lost" letters going on.

missing letters: I will put a - in front of these

added letters: I will put a + in front of these

wrong letters: I will put an = in between the wrong letter and right letter

out of place letters: I will put an / in between the first out of place letter with the second out of place letter.

Eplisons is the second example of out of place letters. I neglected to mention perusant's out of place letters. perusant should be pursuant so the U should swap with the S in addition to the E being replaced by a U

I will change the main anaylsis post to reflect this.

I just want to interrupt for a moment to say how fun it's been writing these executions. Three former KotR players plus Sasaki - you couldn't ask for a sweeter scenario. :laugh4:

If they're anagrams, I think it's highly unlikely that they're simply the names of the mafioso. The letters include a V, and the only person with a V in their name that is left alive is discovery1. However, there's no D, Y, or 1 listed so far, and with the number of letters already posted, the odds of missing that many from a name seem pretty low. While the executed Privateerkev and peverpink also have Vs in their names, they are equally improbable due to a missing P and a second missing V for PK and two missing Ps and a missing K for pever. So, if anyone is going to try cracking these as anagrams, I wouldn't bother trying to get actual names out of them. Instead look for phrases that would be hints as to the names. However, I still think a cypher of some kind is more likely.

Something told me you were working out some past anger with our executions GH. :clown:

Back on topic:

I wondered if the string I worked out was directions.

+I -S +I -A -N -S -N -I -V O=E +E -C -I -E -I E=U U/S -"space" -"space" A=U -R -M -S -T -I -G -A L/S

It might be telling us to do something with each letter. So I followed the directions and got this:

J R J Z M R M H U E F B H D H U S _ _ U Q L R S H F Z S

PK posted
All letters in order:

+I -S +I -A -N -S -N -I -V O=E +E -C -I -E -I E=U U=S -"space" -"space" A=U -R -M -S -T -I -G -A L/S
Corrections in red

Missing: S A N S N I V C I E I (space) (space) R M S T I G A
Added: I I E
Changed: E->U, L->S
Wrong: E->O, U->E, S->U, U->A


So if we say that added letters are no longer "lost", then we got:
S A N S N V C I R M S T I G A

Note that note of the wrong or changed letters actually appear except for S, so they might not actually mean anything....unless those are letters we need to add manually later?

Good point about sayin how a space is missing and not extra.

But I still maintain that the S and U in perusant need to be swapped, not changed. The letters are present in the "wrong" word. They just need to be moved.

I've been doing various substitution cypher permutations for a while now and there's a basic problem with them. Regardless of which letter sequence we use, there are a large number of letter repetitions, such as S A N S N or I S I A N S N I. These multiple repetitions simply do not correspond to the pattern of letter occurances in any player's name. I thus don't think it's a direct substitution cypher of names. It's possible that it's both an anagram and a substitution cypher, but that seems way, way too difficult for us to be able to solve. So, I'm starting to think that if it is an anagram or a cypher, it is some kind of clue phrase, not a simple transcription of a name. There may be other coding systems that we're missing as well.

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Originally Posted by TinCow

... Regardless of which letter sequence we use, there are a large number of letter repetitions, such as S A N S N or I S I A N S N I. These multiple repetitions simply do not correspond to the pattern of letter occurances in any player's name. I thus don't think it's a direct substitution cypher of names. It's possible that it's both an anagram and a substitution cypher, but that seems way, way too difficult for us to be able to solve. So, I'm starting to think that if it is an anagram or a cypher, it is some kind of clue phrase, not a simple transcription of a name. There may be other coding systems that we're missing as well.

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I agree. I don't think it (the clue(s)) point to a username verbatim, but rather some other indicator. A hobby, or interest, or style, or other personal referent of the person, known to some or all of the players. Or a more general cautionary note. Or something...

I have tomorrow (wed, 18 Jun in california) off work, so will try to assist again. Seamus' post-count analysis will likely go wacky again, as a result.

Intuition is a funny thing. I never trust it alone. That said, I 'intuit' that we lynched a bad guy this day. Of course, the night writeup should tell the tale.

Day breaks in the Frontroom. All is quiet. The chill present since yesterday had not gone away; as a matter of fact, it seemed to have intensified overnight, providing for the faithful to believe that this was all an omen of terrible things to come.

shlin28 was passing his time by reading his favorite book, a certain novel penned by Koushun Takami. As opposed to more traditional tomes such as, say, the Bible, or something from the "Chicken Soup for the Soul" series, shlin gained comfort and drew strength from a 600-odd page description of Japanese high school students brutally murdering each other.

While shlin could only aspire to be one of those fictional students; out on an island with a small chance of survival, he nevertheless saw some similarities between what he was reading and his current situation. For example: In both circumstances, people were out to kill him. After that little detail, nothing else really mattered too much. And, as a result, precautions needed to be taken. shlin was therefore reading in his attic, with a winter coat on, and using a tiny flashlight as his only source of illumination.

In his book, a lot of the people that hid did pretty well. It was only when they made noise that they were discovered and thus disposed of. Nobody really happened upon a hiding place by chance. Heck, the same thing had happened in the Frontroom! Most notably, two days ago when both Crazed Rabbit and woad&fangs had bought it by leaving their hiding places. Thus, shlin was trying the same strategy. So, he was content to just sit and read.

Time passed by.

In the distance, shlin heard the sound of a car coming up his street, and then stopping, by the sound of it pretty closely. The engine, he could even tell from the attic, was of good quality. It wouldn't be surprising if the car in question was a Mercedes.

shlin froze. They were coming for him. If he just stayed where he was... he'd be fine... maybe...

He heard the sound of his door being broken open and the footsteps of a man running into the foyer. "Great," shlin thought, he was in. He strained to hear further, but... nothing. Perhaps the mafioso, not identifying an alarm system (for there was none) had gotten confused and left. Or maybe he was only there for supplies. Or maybe... he was just sneaking around and meticulously checking every room for his prey.

He checked his watch and noted the second hand was on the twelve. He continued to strain to hear any sign of mafioso activity downstairs. After hearing nothing, he fiddled with his coat for a while, zipping and unzipping it repeatedly. After that had been done to satisfaction, he picked up the book and kept reading it, but only got through a sentence before he put it down in fright. He strained to hear again, heard nothing, and picked up the book again before putting it down again. He checked his watch.

The second hand was on the one.

This was taking too long. It would be better, a lot better, if he could just hear some sign of something, anything, that the mafioso had left or not; the sound of an engine, the sound of something breaking, just anything to break the monotony and the terrible fear that is known as silence!

Finally, some relief. He heard the sound of another door being thrown open, this time a lot louder and closer.

He panicked. The mafioso was on the second floor! He was closer, he knew where shlin was, he had to get a weapon-! Abandoning his position, he scrambled around the attic, hoping against hope that there was a gun, or a bat, or something he could use to defend himself - come on, it had to be there-

One floor below, the mafioso heard the racket being made and smiled. Finally, shlin had revealed himself. Calmly pumping his shotgun, he aimed and blasted at the section of the ceiling where shlin was tromping around in the attic directly above him.

Success! The entire section of the ceiling that wasn't hit by the fire fell away, as did everything above it, including shlin. Bleeding from one of his feet, shlin fell hard and couldn't move. Immobilized, he could really do nothing except listen to his pursuer.

"Dod't abaddod your plads just begause you're a bit sgared," the mafioso said, and fired again. That was the end of shlin28, who was not given an opportunity to take his killer's advice.

Coincidentally, RoadKill was reading the exact same book that shlin was (well, not the EXACT same book, but he was reading an identical copy, if one wanted to be picky) and also strategizing based on what he had read in there. While shlin was focused on the hiders, RK was instead interested in the hunters.

The most lethal characters in the book were those who had actively sought out their prey and prepared to fight. Yes, their survival rate wasn't that good, but they always took out one victim before finally succumbing. Considering this as well as the fact that the mafiosi probably weren't expecting a counter-attack aside from Beirut's woefully ineffective lynching system, RoadKill liked his odds of taking somebody out.

It was decided, then. RoadKill would take justice into his own hands. He was sick and tired of the lack of results and reasoned that soon there would be an attempt on his own life. If pre-emptive strikes worked for world leaders, it would work for him, too!

Packing two SMGs he had constructed from spare parts as well as a sniper rifle for long-distance work, RK set off from his house, dreaming dreams of glory and victory.

...He would catch a mafioso in the act, and challenge him to a duel, which of course the mafioso, caught in the act, could not resist, and even if he did, RoadKill would simply mow him down as he retreated. Then, the two of them would fight, preferably in an arena with the crowd cheering him on, and he would be their champion, saving them from the forces of darkness. And the two of them would go at it, shooting and ducking, running out of ammo until there wasn't much left, and then finally, RK would deliver the blow, wounding his opponent, and then he would come out of hiding to finish the job, and the mafioso would be plading for mercy, but RK would give him none, just as the mafioso would have given no mercy to the town, and then it would be over with RoadKill as the victorious savior, and he would get a medal, maybe even Beirut's job, and receive much adulation and love from the townspeople, and the women, oh yes, the women would be all over him, he would forever look more desirable to them, and they would-

SCREECH! A black car roared around a turn, now zooming along the street. Its driver leaned out the window and blasted a shotgun directly into RK's chest. With the black car now gone just as fast as it came, RoadKill fell, weapons still in hand. He died within eyesight of his house. The adventure would never be completed.

Later that day, Chief of Police Beirut gathered the remaining citizens of the Frontroom into the town square in order to make an announcement.

"Gentlemen," he began, it has come to my attention that the mafia are still doing their job of reducing this town's population. If you wish for this trend to cease, then I suggest you had start lynching the right people.

"Reducing population?" someone said. "Could you be any more insensitive? These are people's lives we're talking about here!"

"Indeed we are," said Beirut. "Thus, once again, I suggest that you start getting these right. Get voting!"

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Still alive: (16)
Ichigo
makaikhaan
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Caius
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Sarathos
Beefy187
Tiberius of the Drake
KukriKhan
CountArach
Kommodus
Seamus Fermanagh
Kagemusha
discovery1
FactionHeir
Joe Monks

Suicide/Wrath of God:
|Sith|R|AntiWarmanCake88
Mithrandir
Fenring
Lord Winter
georgeman51

Killed:
Tratorix
Omanes Alexandrapolites
Andres
Craterus
LittleGrizzly
TevashSzat
Crazed Rabbit
woad&fangs
Rythmic
Quintus.J.Cicero
shlin28
RoadKill

Executed:
Privateerkev
Elite Ferret
peverpink
TinCow
Sasaki Kojiro

NOTE: I'm graduating tomorrow. I have one small window to do the execution in, and I'm not confident that I'll be able to get it done in time. So there's a chance that voting may be extra-long this round.

Focus on these players today(no particular order)

Shlin28
FactionHeir
Makaikhaan
Beefy187

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And the two of them would go at it, shooting and ducking, running out of ammo until there wasn't much left, and then finally, RK would deliver the blow, wounding his opponent, and then he would come out of hiding to finish the job, and the mafioso would be plading for mercy, but RK would give him none, just as the mafioso would have given no mercy to the town, and then it would be over with RoadKill as the victorious savior, and he would get a medal, maybe even Beirut's job, and receive much adulation and love from the townspeople, and the women, oh yes, the women would be all over him, he would forever look more desirable to them, and they would-

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E is missing

You guys find any others?