Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia [Concluded]

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

I can't see GH WoG'ing a mafioso for missing a vote. That would majorly change the game.

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Well, let GH explain it into more detail

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Originally Posted by Stig

Well, let GH explain it into more detail

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Oh, I'm sure he has an explanation. He would be cautious about incriminating a mafioso.

EDIT: Post retracted for now. I'll re-post later on. You'll see why.

after Kommo posts his, hoping the mafia sleeps

Hmm interesting. I take it none of the other execution scenes indicated any guilt?

Stig!!! :furious3:

Who's side are you on here?! I retracted that post because I didn't want to give the mafia any hints on who to kill this night! I was going to repost it after the kills!

Gah... :no: :thumbsdown:

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Who's side are you on here?! I retracted that post because I didn't want to give the mafia any hints on who to kill this night! I was going to repost it after the kills

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he knows who to kill alright, he doubt he's that stupid

Do post the first part of your post tho. Saying that there's only 1 mafia left for sure, as that's true

I think your guilty.

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Originally Posted by Stig

btw I voted CR because I thought he was MORE suspicious, and how could Andres know that BK was innocent ... you combine things we know after the kills with things we know before the kills.

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Correction. The townies don't know who is innocent before the kills. The mafia do.

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Originally Posted by Stig

Do you really think he doesn't know who to kill?

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I don't know what the mafia know and don't know. I do know that they tend to kill players who aren't drawing a lot of suspicion, because players that people are suspicious of are lynch bait. That's why I didn't want to give away who I was suspicious of. After posting, I realized I'd done it prematurely. But now you've made sure the mafia will see everything.

EDIT: Ok, thanks for editing your post. Perhaps the mafia saw what I said; perhaps not. Maybe it makes no difference.

With the mafia popping Pannonian and Reenk I don't think they care too much about that. Though that does make stig looks suspicious.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

With the mafia popping Pannonian and Reenk I don't think they care too much about that. Though that does make stig looks suspicious.

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I don't see how both CA and Stig are still alive. I think the last mafioso is one of them of course I could be wrong. I think either Pannonian or RR would have gotten lynched the round they were killed, but that's just my opnion.

Agreed, but we only have one lynch left. Harsh.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Agreed, but we only have one lynch left. Harsh.

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Unless GH let's the dead vote in the last round.

After reading through Stig's posts I think he's guilty. He contradicts himself plus some other things that make me think that.

CountA's survival still worries me. But then it's likely that he would have made sure to vote if he was mafia, and I'm thinking GH would have realized how bad that looked and decided to WoG neither of them, which would make the count innocent.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

CountA's survival still worries me. But then it's likely that he would have made sure to vote if he was mafia, and I'm thinking GH would have realized how bad that looked and decided to WoG neither of them, which would make the count innocent.

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I agree. I think everyone else's behavior can be explained.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

CountA's survival still worries me. But then it's likely that he would have made sure to vote if he was mafia, and I'm thinking GH would have realized how bad that looked and decided to WoG neither of them, which would make the count innocent.

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Thank you Sasaki, the voice of reason. :bow:

Day breaks in the Frontroom. All is quiet. Quiet as death.

The eventual transportation of the object was probably CountArach’s most prestigious mission up to date. He knew the dangers (he had read about those in the daily obituaries), but he also knew the good his work would do, according to the rumours the thing he was to transport could save many a life. Little did he know that the object could destroy even better than it did save.

The mission was extraordinary simple, considering its magnitude. He was to start the engine of his truck at 10:00 and be at the meeting point exactly one hour later. He was even to be accompanied by an ex-marine (also a living villager), whom he would meet at 9:55.

Thus it was that CountArach was inspecting his trusty truck for any things out of the ordinary, he was no fool, and he knew how far the reach of the mafia went. The killings of approximately 20 fellow villagers was proof of that.

"Thank God, everything’s normal," CA thought to himself, glancing at his watch 19:50.

"Now let’s hope that bodyguard of mine turns up when he’s supposed to. Time is money, after all," CA thought, after inspecting all four tires once again.

Footsteps could now clearly be heard, a door opened and a pale young man wearing a bulky kevlar vest, army pants, boots, and even a helmet entered. Checking once more if his Heckler & Koch MP4 machine gun was locked and loaded. He expected to use it.

"So you’re Ichigo, then, are you not?" CountArach asked the marine. He noticed that this marine had a rather pale complexion.

The marine didn’t reply, but he did look at CA weirdly. How could somebody not keep track of who was still living in this mess? Hmm, perhaps it was for the best in this situation.

The lack of reply didn’t bother CA, and he turned around to get into the truck. "Do make sure you lock the door from the inside, we don’t want anyone breaking in, one way or the other," he said.

"Oh, don’t worry about that. I daresay I’d compromise the mission...not after all the trouble it took to get here..." the pale marine calling himself Ichigo ended with a slight grin.

CA turned around. He didn’t like what Ichigo was telling him. Not at all. Meanwhile, "Ichigo" continued.

"You see, my partner and I have been waiting for this moment a long time now. And using this truck, and navigation system which you have, we’ll manage to find the place where it is hidden. And will finally succeed in having it."

CountArach was sweating now, he was beginning to understand what was being said here. He had always been a slow learner.

"So you see," the mafioso continued, "After Reenk and Pannonian told us all what they knew about this place, you, the date and time, your death was guaranteed. So, really, you were dead yesterday, but didn’t know it yet."

"So, you’re not Ichigo, aren’t you ?" CA mumbled, finally grasping the situation.

"Wow, you're really sharp, aren't you? What set you off? The fact that I didn't look anything like the guy that you had been voting with for the past week now?" The mafioso sighed. CA still looked puzzled. "No, I'm not.

"It doesn’t change the situation though. Goodbye." He said this immediately before unloading a clip into a baffled CountArach. He was dead before he hit the ground.

The mafioso loaded a new clip, entered the truck, and started the engine. It was 10:01.

A short while earlier, the real Ichigo was enjoying a well deserved moment of peace. Putting on his long-since put away army gear brought back memories that he had tried to shun for the better part of his life. However, he also knew that money was needed to enjoy his extravagant life. And this job paid well.

"Well, let’s hope this'll be my last gig," he said to his newly polished MP4 with a slight smile. How he loved that gun, and hated it at the same time. He thought nothing of the fact that he was actually talking to a gun.

He longed to grab the remote (the TV was on); he hated hip hop, and MTV was just starting to show an hour of that so called ‘music’ non stop. "Rather just watch the Animal Planet," he thought, as he changed the channel.

He then grabbed the chips in front of him, wondering why he couldn’t stop eating the stuff. His grab missed, there wasn’t any more in there.

"Dammit," Ichigo cursed as he stood up and turned around to walk towards the kitchen.

He didn’t get far. A pale young man stood in the doorway leading to the kitchen. A gun equipped with silencer was pointed at Ichigo’s head. Smart move really, as his chest was protected by Kevlar. One could never be too careful in these days.

"Hello Ichigo, I would have thought those days were behind you," the man said, pointing his gun at the army-clad Ichigo. The machine gun on the table behind him was far out of his reach. This was not going well.

"You never were one to let go of the past easily, unlike me, of course," the pale man continued.

While the machine gun was out of reach, another weapon was not. Ichigo fingered the knife in his right back pocket. All he needed was one moment and this would all be over. He had to keep the man talking, he needed time. Just a little bit.

"Look," Ichigo said, obviously trying to buy time, "I don’t know what I’m guarding. Honestly. I can’t help you and your buddies. I am of no use to you."

The pale mafioso played along. "True, but the mere fact you’re guarding it makes you important. Don’t you see ? You’re instrumen-"

The mafioso wasn’t able to finish his sentence, as Ichigo with a flick of his right hand threw his army knife at the mafioso. However, he was ready for it and quickly fired his weapon while letting himself fall to the ground. The knife flew by harmlessly, striking only the air where his head had been only moment before. He, however, had not missed.

Ichigo had fallen down (not to dodge) and was clutching his bleeding arm. He never was a good throw with his right hand, he thought, as the mafioso walked over to him and raised his gun.

"That’s the second time you missed me Ichigo. Remember?"

"You? How is that…"

No response. Only a "Goodbye, Ichigo," complete with a blank expression.

Another sound of a bullet hitting its target signalled the end of Ichigo’s life.

The mafioso glanced at his watch: 19:30. Ah, good. Plenty of time to deal with Arach then. He put on Ichigo’s army gear (a perfect fit) took his gun, keys, and map. And left to meet Arach...

Later that evening (yes, we're back in real time), Chief of Police Beirut gathered the five remaining villagers in the now-nearly empty town center in order to make an announcement.

"Gentlemen," he began, "One way or another this will end tonight. Either we rid this village of the scourge now or next morning they kill the rest of us. I suggest you choose wisely. Our lives are in the balance."

With that last grim statement, the remaining villagers began that ritual, that ever-cursed ritual one final time.

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Still alive: (5)
Kagemusha
Stig
Crazed Rabbit
AndresTheCunning
Kommodus

Wrath of God:
Ignoramus
Lord Motep of Kendermore
Warluster
JimBob
Fenring
pevergreen
ByzantineKnight

Killed:
UltraWar
Omanes Alexandrapolites the Idiot
Zalmoxis
Orb
Rythmic
sapi
Sir Boo
Sir Moody
ChuggtheSquirrel
Faust| (replaces Destroyer of Hope who suicided)
Seamus Fermanagh
Redleg
Reenk Roink
Pannonian
CountArach
Ichigo

Executed:
HughTower
discovery1
Caius Flaminius
Xiahou
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Sasaki Kojiro
Dutch_guy

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Final round. Good luck, everyone.

Kagemusha
Stig
Crazed Rabbit
AndresTheCunning
Kommodus

Whos mafia....
My guess is Kommodus and Andres

:( Good luck town! You guys are really gonna need it.

Since the voting rules have not changed, this means only 1 mafioso remains. If there were 2 mafiosi still alive, 5 people alive would result in 4 after the lynch, then 2 after the killings. Even if a mafioso were correctly lynched, this leaves 1 mafioso left alive and 1 innocent, which is a mafia win as per the Kage case.

If Dutch_guy is the dead mafioso, then posting style would point to Andres as his accomplice. If the dead mafioso was someone else, goodness knows who the remaining one is.

Oh well, why not.

Happy Birthday GeneralHankerchief ! :balloon:

17 is quite the age, have fun and don't get too drunk !

:balloon2:

Sadly, the drinking age in the US is 21. :cry:

Thanks for the wishes though. :yes:

And get voting! Session will be 48 hours instead of 24 since it's the last one.

Looks to me like stig is guilty. Though I haven't reread on the others. Post coming in a sec.


Let's take some quotes:

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I'm in favour of a tie, it gives us more discussion

Unvote: Count Arach
Vote: Xiahou

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I thought we said that discussion was good for the town, so I tie would be good

Unvote: CR
Vote: CountArach

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Sorry Pan, but I'm going to untie it, Sasaki posted here in the Gameroom an hour ago, but ignored this thread.

Unvote: Kommodus
Vote: Sasaki

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Inconsistency here.

Now his post of suspects:

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Now for Dutch:
He does say Sasaki looks suspicious, he does say enough to vote out people, but still he doesn't vote for people. Dutch has also been abstaining in earlier voting rounds.
Kage:
I can't find his vote, strange, but he only posted once this voting round
BK:
Said Sasaki was suspicious, but didn't vote for him as he thought it to be a bad lynch, next to that he would be almost last to vote for Sasaki, so he might have been afraid of bandwagonning.

Now for the remaining players:
Kommo:
Seems townish, but at the same time he can be faking some of the results of his research to hide his real identity.
CR:
where has he gone? Lurks a bit, minorly suspicious imo
Reenk Roink:
Has always been voting for Sasaki, he could be the detective, he could be Reenk and try one of his tricks again, minorly suspicious as well

Anyway, Reenk, CR, Dutch and BK are on my list.

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His next post defends reenk:

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Faust you don't know Reenk (hell I don't even know him well enough) he's full of tricks. In one game he only replied in smilies, in Midgard he claimed to be a Loki, it took long for us to believe him. Reenk mostlikely is playing, tho he's always a suspect.

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He starts next round with a vote for Dutch (btw I'm assuming that dutch was the mafioso). When Kommodus posts against dutch guy he unvotes though:

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Unvote: Dutch Guy
Vote: CR

Kommodus hasn't given a good reason against Dutch Guy yet, only a not working program and his intuition

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And tries in several posts to discredit Kommodus's method. This is despite him claiming dutch guy is one of his main suspects and starting the round with a vote.


The main this is his inconsistencies on ties, his inconsistencies on who he finds suspicious, and his vote and then unvote of dutch guy. Also I noticed these:

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WoG way to go, atlast less lurkers

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My first thought at that moment was not "way to go" it was "whoah this is bad".

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Vote: Sigurd
Xiahou last night, Sigurd this one, if you want a reason read all the post on earlier pages.

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Note that stig hadn't made much post accusing sigurd in the last few pages. this looks like "hey they were almost ready to lynch sigurd yesterday I bet they'll go for it today".






Haven't read on any of the others. Kommo and CR are pretty clearly innocent though.

Whoever killed me knows nothing about me. :laugh4:

Ok, here's what I posted earlier and later retracted.

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Well, let's consider what we know. I find it extremely likely that Dutch_guy was, in fact, guilty. There appear to be several clues in the execution.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Although the weather was slightly better today, things still looked grim.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Dutch dutifully placed himself on the chopping block (literally) with a look of slight regret on his face as he was decapitated.

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Also, let's consider what is meant by this:

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Numbers also play a part into it, as you will find out soon.

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We have seven players left, one of which is a mafioso. Two more will soon be killed, leaving us with five. If we execute incorrectly at that point, the next two kills will leave us with two, one of which is guilty. This situation is almost always decided in favor of the mafia. I think one reason why GH killed BK was to make sure we would only have one voting round left.

(Note that if I'm wrong and we have two mafiosi left, the game is over and we've lost. But I highly doubt this is the case.)

Now, I think everyone who voted for Dutch_guy is innocent. He was executed on a bare 4-3 majority, so one vote going the other way would've changed the outcome and decided the game for the mafia. Also, consider the players:

Crazed Rabbit: He was the second player after me to vote Dutch (technically third if you count Stig's early vote, which he later changed). Also, because he swore his innocence and because of his rep, I believe him. Criticize me for naive if you will, but I think it's true.

Kagemusha: He was under no pressure to change his vote to DG, but he did anyway.

Ichigo: Same as Kagemusha.

Kommodus: I'm the one that got 'im lynched, besides the fact that I know I'm innocent.

That leaves three suspects:

AndresTheCunning: The first to vote for CR in the last round. This is after originally voting BK (now a known innocent) and voicing suspicions of DG. Perhaps he felt his team would have a better chance of getting CR lynched, something which proved true. I've been suspicious of him since very early on.

Stig: Voted for Dutch_guy very quickly, but later changed his vote to CR after I added my vote. Was he trying to distance himself from his partner at first, only to think better of it when things went awry?

CountArach: Didn't participate much or vote in the last round. Others have said he's suspicious; I'm not so sure myself. I'll have to review his posts and activity before coming to a conclusion.

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I retracted it because I didn't want to give the mafia any clues on who to kill. I knew that mafiosi tend to kill players that no one finds suspicious - they leave alive the suspicious ones to act as lynch bait. As it turns out, the mafia did us a favor by killing CountArach, as that's one fewer suspect.

It should be noted, BTW, that Stig saw my post. He originally quoted me after I retracted, then edited it out after I asked him to. Later, he PM'd me with this:

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Originally Posted by Stig

If you're mafia you'll know that I'm innocent ... if you're not you will mostlikely not trust me but anyway:
I'm innocent, I'm pretty sure of that (as I never got any PM).
Since you said that there is only 1 mafia left that kinda puts you and CR in the clear. Or you are just plain "stupid" with following CR, or he's lying afterall.

Can you analyse Kage's posts as I believe he won a mafia game on his own before, next to that he's low profile.
Andres seems somewhat innocent, but he can easely be used by the mafia. As I used Husar in Midgard.
Ichigo seems innocent, which is weird, but I think he's innocent this time.
CA didn't get WoG'ed but I can't find little against him next to that.

So if I were mafia (and not myself) I would kill Kage and Ichigo, leaving 4 high profilers (who are against eachother), you follow 1 group and win the game. If however Kage or Ichigo doesn't get killed they're highly suspicious to me.


it's your choice to trust me ... I would trust myself, this time

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Stig, I don't mean to betray a trust here or anything by quoting you. I just think that at this stage of the game, full disclosure is the way to go.

Anyway, I responded to him with this message:

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Originally Posted by Kommodus

As I said in my post (and please don't quote me on this, yet), those who voted DG are innocent (assuming DG was mafia). A single vote going the other way would've decided the game in favor of the mafia - why would they throw away an opportunity like that, especially when CR looked plenty suspicious?

And keep in mind that CR and I are among those who have been around since the beginning. I know him better than you do, and I don't think he'd throw away his integrity like that for such a stupid reason.

You are, after all, most likely right about who will be killed. No one's suspicious of Kage or Ichigo. Me and CR are the best choices for who to get lynched next.

However, at this point I can't narrow down my list of suspsects any more. After the kills, we'll see. Sorry.

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And he responded with the following:

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Originally Posted by Stig

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Originally Posted by Kommodus

As I said in my post (and please don't quote me on this, yet), those who voted DG are innocent (assuming DG was mafia). A single vote going the other way would've decided the game in favor of the mafia - why would they throw away an opportunity like that, especially when CR looked plenty suspicious?

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Aye makes sense ... unless it's CR, Kage, Ichigo or you who's mafia and DG and him agreed on it that one of them would get killed to blind the town. But that's to difficult, so let's assume you were right

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Originally Posted by Kommodus

You are, after all, most likely right about who will be killed. No one's suspicious of Kage or Ichigo. Me and CR are the best choices for who to get lynched next.

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Aye, true. So say Kage and Ichigo get killed. That would mean that 3 of us have to get the right person ... I would say: Andres or CA (you would say Andres, Stig or CA), which is damned difficult. Tho Andres seems a good kill atm, but so seems CA.

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I haven't yet had time to really analyze everything yet, as I've gone up north for a ski trip this weekend. Fortunately, since this is the final round, we have more time. It's clear that the final two suspects are indeed Stig and AndresTheCunning. Right now I'm leaning strongly towards Andres being guilty, but since there's no hurry I'm not going to vote until I've had a chance to do one more analysis and can settle everything in my own mind.

Well, if we follow Sasaki that CR and Kommo are good guys, then it's down to Stig, AtC, and Kage.

Stig has been hammered in the preceding posts, and his own post count per page was more or less exactly in line with normal mafia parameters.

Kage's vote seems to make him less likely as a choice.

AtC is the wild card. Much of his posting follows his pattern when innocent, but we have limited games to go on with him.

Sorry Stig, but I think it's you for the final decision. Hope its correct.

This night time, both townies were killed by the pale faced man.

Last night, only one townie was killed by the pale faced man.

The executed man between the two nights was Dutch Guy.

Food for thought.

I, too, lean towards Andres as suspect right now, slightly ahead of Stig.

CR

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Sorry Stig, but I think it's you for the final decision. Hope its correct.

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Pity, wouldn't like losing the game

Anyway we've got Kage, Kommo, CR, Andres and me. As Kommo said Kage, CR and himself are in the clear (unless one of them and Dutch Guy agreed on it that that Dutch Guy would be lynched, tho that would be stupid as lynching CR instead of DG would have been enough to win the game). I'm innocent (as I never got a PM from GH), so I will have to:

Vote: Andres


BTW, note that Andres hasn't started desperate posting like in Midgard, when he was innocent.

Whispers from the void: Happy Birthday GeneralHankerchief :beam: