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Well, unless he has some reason to think you're better off alive then pever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
TS is acting normally. He's spamming, PMing randomly, etc. It's hard to read him at least for me.
Edit:I don't think khaan's been posting enough. Not a good thing for the town imho
I'm thinking I'm just getting started sifting through the massive amounts of data coming in. This is not going to be easy. :book:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
With about half the discussion in this game coming from a top-tier group of nine players, I'd be looking to find some mafiosi in the much larger group of semi-lurkers.
FoS: Hannibalbarc
According to Holmes, this is one guy who fits a known mafioso profile... in the worst way. More likely to be a made gangster or Luca than a Don; either way, he's very likely to be bad news. I can't really, explain more than that; or rather, I choose not to. :wink:
More to follow... :holmes:
Well, well, well the sleeping giant awakes. What about GH? Sasaki? There's nothing more you'd like to add?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kommodus
Why?
I respect the fact you have this, "Holmes", or whatever it is, but what evidence have we that you are anything but an enemy of the people?
Couldn't Hannibal simply put, "Mafia Hunter", under his name and then suck on a pipe, waiting for people to ask his opinion?
Then again, you have already garnered suspicion, so there is no need to throw anymore upon you.
Can you give me anything that will put faith in you?
Oh- And.. What happened to the end of the night phase.
I would really like to know if I am still alive or not.
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Originally Posted by Glenn
I started on this post about twelve hours ago, so it'll probably seem fairly out of context:I just want to see you defend yourself in all honesty - it gives you a chance to slip up should you be a mafioso, which can provide sufficent evidence to later lynch you, or perhaps conclude your innocence.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
So GH, why were you defending yourself so aggressively and in your mafia style before?
This defence, seen from this point throughout D1/N1, was performed in a way as I have known you to in a guilty role in the past (Lycan (Serial Killer) in pevergreen's Fantasy Mafia). You roll your eyes and answer questions with other questions to try avoid providing what the original question asked of you.
I also want to know why others have previously claimed you to be a known mafioso?
TO add to what pannonian said; Kommodus previously was a good Mafia Hunter. If he is Mafia now then at least he will give a honest opinion about the enemies of his. If not it shall help. Of course this gives rise to the worry that he could falsely accuse other people of such things...
But to what you said Glenn: Hannibal can put Mafia Hunter under his name but it would b a title as anyother, as is Kommodus's.
A question to Kommodus; why does he fit the mafia profile? How?
Understood, I withdraw my complaint.
I will also attempt not to, 'spam' from now on, and curtail my entertainment.
Have you found your third person yet? It's strange no one has asked this yet so I will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
Pann: Since you seem to be around who do you find suspicious? You've yet to give any thoughts other than the NN incident that I can see. I would like to pick your brain if you'll allow it.
Listen to your argument? I have listened and judged it wanting. Severely wanting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
Indeed, my last post before the lynch was a detailed refutation of the the logic that supported you.
It is classic scummy tactic to accuse your enemies. All of your postings so far have been saturated with the slime of mafia scum. All your posts are either very defensive or lashing out at people like Kommodus, who haven't even accused you.
Though his brief accusation of hannibal is rather circumspect.
CR
Has the deadline passed yet for N2 orders? The deadline is 2330 EST, but I'm on GMT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
It's past by about 4 hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pannonian
Then I'll post this charming PM which was forwarded to me.
Drake's family can organise a revenge attack on the recipient of this PM if they like, but since he's expendable (we all are), a one for one exchange is still good for the town.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiberius of the Drake
Well my search function is spent for a couple of hours, but could someone else check Drakes posts for anything that could be useful?
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Originally Posted by Ichigo
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I suggest that we go for someone who will know what they are doing on the first day so that we dont miss any oppurtunities to get a jump on any potential threats.
Elect: GH
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Just curious. is it possible that a new thread could be opened where all the night summaries could be placed and where a current list of alive members could be?
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Vote:Abstain
Ive been to out of the loop for this rounf to make a good vote. it might be changed if I get the time to read the last three pages.
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Unvote:Abstain
Vote:Glenn
the combination of CA and CR's posts have done two fold for me
a.) save me the trouble of reading 3 pages of accusations
B.) convinced me of the true guilt of Glenn who i already had suspcions of
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Ichanged my vote to vote for Glenn
I say we lynch Drake and GH, in any order. Might be worthwhile doing GH first, as Drake is manifestly a Made while GH's behaviour patterns are more reminiscent of a Don (remember Prole's snootiness when I called her out for a suicide pact in Capo 1).Quote:
i would also like to hear some reasoning Twilight
This is not spam.
Pannonian - seeing as he is exposed to death in any case, would it not hurt to show the recipient's name?
I also notice how, 'orders' does not start with a capitol letter, and the PM is only a piece.
Is there more, or was there simply the word, "Your", missed out?
CR, alot of people say my posts are slimy, I try and keep them as neat and graceful as possible.
I'll soon see wether you are my friend or my enemy.
This will tell me wether your suspicions are founded or forged.
Until then, I remain neutral to you.. And to everybody, truly, I have no open enemies yet as I have no great evidence anymore - hence my questioning, "Everybody", as some people put it.
Ichigo, I will be honest as possible.
There was a mistake made, we have not a third yet.
This mistake was not particularly damaging.
Without attacking CR again - I noted Tiberius' attitude towards me as uniform with Rythmic and CR.
They display a pattern of responses and attitudes to me.
I am glad I may at least have one of these confirmed.
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Good job, Pannonian.
I was strictly pursued by Tiberius, and he has shown a connection to CR, albeit very minor.
I will explain my theory of GH again, probably much to his annoyance.
He is acting in a very independent way in PMs, I instinctively felt he was a loner in this game.
Now, there was someone on my contacts list who came through with the affirmation of his investigation being, "Criminal".
I can't say anymore about this unless the man himself steps forward into the light.
I also have great reason to believe that there are two other special roles out there, two opposites, which begin as neutral partakers in the Township and Mafia.
One knows all the Pro-Townie special roles, another knows all the Mafia Dons and etc.
To me, GH fits the description and behaviour of this latter, being proven, "Criminal", by someone who must go unnamed for now, and having an attitude that pertains to this yet speculative role, where the player is a loner with alot of information and the power to help whoever he wishes.
Pann - an interesting PM, we had best lynch him to make sure. We can also lynch GH with Drake (multiple lynchings rock... we just better not screw it up again).
That's all the stuff visible to me. In the PM quote, I typed the name "Tiberius of the Drake", while elsewhere I've bolded the votes as per the original post (you can check). Other than that, it's been copy and paste everywhere else.
Wolf and Sheep? I doubt it, considering the trouble the role gave the game last time round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
Thanks Pann. It's possible that Drake and GH could be linked but it's extremely doubtful.
Glenn what mistake are you talking about? I don't see how there could have been a mistake.
How do you know this? Further, the second role would be much too powerful, because that player could rally ever single pro-town role together and use them as one force. That removes a huge level of doubt from the game, something that wouldn't be done.Quote:
I also have great reason to believe that there are two other special roles out there, two opposites, which begin as neutral partakers in the Township and Mafia.
One knows all the Pro-Townie special roles, another knows all the Mafia Dons and etc.
Allow me to correct that.
Some pro-townie roles.
Now answer the first part of the question - how do you know that?
I'm not sure who he means with those roles. Care to give me an up date by pm Glenn?
I can explain the muistake though. He told me about the 3 special guys, when I replied he somehow got the impression I was the third. However it seems the third is inactive or something. So we'll have to wait till he's WOG'ed probably. I guess Seamus will then give a towny this role, considering the role's nature.
Ha ha ha - without spamming.
In continuance with my previous honesty - if I said that I would be breaking the rules. Also, for the most part - it is as much hearsay as the General's affirmed Criminal status.
Which means most people aren't, but I am believing in it thus far.
The only other thing I can add is that I hope you realise I am attempting to aid this little discussion here, whilst we wait for the results of Night 2.
I don't want to betray the people who helped me, and so within the guidelines of their trust and what was written in red in my role PM - I am helping you as truthfully as possible - if you're innocent, it's up to you wether to regard anything I say.
***EDIT***
Here is what I mean.
Moros has stepped forward, to explain the mistake I mentioned.
I told in as much detail as I would without betraying his identity, because he has proved to be of innocence and I trust him.
Surely you can understand my respect of those who have helped me and helped the town - but nonetheless I myself have left nothing to secret of myself that is not rule-breaking.
The rules for dead players prevent me from revealing the information in a pm.
Glenn, post the pm with the word dictionary in it. You sent it to me.
what pm are we talking about pever?
Also shouldn't he better wait before sending anything to you untill you are cleared?
Hey,
btw, I'm not paying attention to any 'point system'. I just want the town to win. (so, all mafia to die)
If I'd been made mafia at the start of game, I would've wanted the opposite, mafia survive, all townies dead.
So, I'm simple. ~:)
So, at the start of day 4 you will all have your proof of my pro-townness.. so, perhaps it would be a nice idea to have all pro-town people send their role pm (without red), their business so far, etc to me? I could indeed be a town-contactperson, which would make it easy communication for town.. also, I could easily influence voting so that pro-town people wouln't be lynched. need to 100% understand the rules for dead people first though, just to be sure this all is allowed..
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That would be a good pro-town play, if you're cleared by the end of N3. However, IMHO it would be unfair, taking much of the skullduggery out of the game. Dead players aren't supposed to control the game to this extent. If one is revealing one's role, one should either do so in public, in the thread, or do so privately to a player whose towniness one can't 100% be certain of.
Send me this PM Pever, I have just cleaned my inbox of all except role-important things.
I honestly can't remember typing dictionary, but I believe you, send it to me.
I'm sorry otherwise, was it a multi-send?
What do you wish to prove?
Drisos, I am sorry, but I do not approve of giving the dead player such a radical position before your true reveal - especially considering we have both been coldly neutral until now.
I advise pevergreen against sending any PMs until he's cleared the practice with Seamus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
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Originally Posted by Seamus in Rules Pertaining to Gameplay by dead players