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You have a point there, seeing as most of our foreign aid is really selfhelp...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
But who are 'they'? I mean, they have got the name, the place and the issue wrong so I suppose these are muslim protesters, but that's about all I can tell based on the 'pica' as you lot call it.
Zizeau, die zit.
heaumeaux :clown:
Seriously hilarious and edgy, lets all run the joke to the ground. :laugh4:Quote:
A misunderstanding, I'm sure since this is the "Religion of Peace" we're talking about.
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God, that cartoonist sucks.. :shame:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
Why does it have to be idiots all the time? Both he and Wilders are worth defending only on principle. We seriously need a quality boost in this debate.
Can't we have (another) Rushdie for a change? Someone decent, funny and smart, who knows what he is talking about when criticising religion? :dizzy2:
I thought it was a pretty clever cartoon, and don't be so hard on him he didn't mean and expect all that. And Rushdie are you kidding me? What a load of crap, now Shalimar the Clown was kinda decent but the guy really needs to resist mounting his pen mid-sentence. Smart, funny, oh? Hot wife yes, it ends there.
I didn't say his books are comics. Midnight's Children is probably still his best, and it is a most serious, almost a studious novel. Shalimar I thought was brilliant, it digs deep and brings up the kernel of love inside the hatred that divided a continent and now threatens to divide a world. Quite a feat for a novelist. :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
Boy loses girl and is angry boils down to that, don't need Rushdie to tell me how pathetic terrorists are. Add a little paradise lost that has been done better as well and you have one heck of a novel of someone who can't construct a decent sentence. I haven't read Midnight Children might give it a go got it lying here somewhere but imho Rushdie is so very overated, maybe midnight children will change my mind but I doubt it. Read Nagieb Mahfoez instead, clever man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adrian II
Speaking of books, Fragony I'm assuming you've read the well-publicized Het land van aankomst by Paul Scheffer? Been reading it recently and it seems like the sort of book you might be interested in.
I would point out that his rendering of Kashmir is breathtakingly beautiful and his dialogue (particularly that of the women) is very engaging. And he shows that most people, even cynical diplomats and enraged terrorists, come from lost paradises and are in search of new ones. That is the true tragedy of today's religious and ethnic strife.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
Never heard of it looked it up, looks like my twin brother that got seperated by birth wrote a book.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoffrey S
Scheffers belangrijkste opponenten zijn niet de migranten of de moslims, maar de multiculturalisten: een zelfbewuste, kosmopolitische elite die weigert culturele verschillen te confronteren en die weinig waardering heeft voor het ontwikkelen van een positieve, nationale identiteit.
voila
Anyone with half a brain understands that, no need to wrap it up in long-winded sentences. Might be a revelation to some but didn't tickle my omgoshQuote:
Originally Posted by Adrian II
Bah, everyone knows there haven't been any decent writers in this world since Tolstoj and Dumas anyway.
How cliche. Ah heck since this has turned into a book-thread which is always good, there is this pretty much unknown gem called Paustovskii, 6 books of memorial goodness you will love it.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
Anyone with half a brain wouldn't call his sentences long-winded. Schopenhauer or Proust, now they wrote long-winded sentences. Mahfouz on the other hand strikes me as a good story-teller, but restricted by his role of 'national author'. I read only his 'Cairo trilogy'. He has three sons turn to capitalism, communism and islam respectively. That's a good idea and it would lead to a feast of humanity as well as absurdity in any Rushdie novel, but Mahfouz is dead-serious about it. It's the same with most Arab authors. No sense of humour.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
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At last we find some common ground, in Paustovsky (or Bulgakov, for that matter).
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Then again Bulgakov would be too magical realist for your taste.
You probaby know what Schopenhauer said about the islam that would take this thread right on track but books are better, sometimes I think I am a closet intellectual. And NO Rushdie can't write he tries too hard, I have no idea why people like his work so much. What was that thing that was 'boekenweekgeschenk' Woede or something like that what a waste of perfectly fine trees what a load of crap. Satanic verses was an atrocity alright but only for people that can actually read if you want to have fun with yourselve go masturbate or something but please don't let people that look at eachother first before praising something decide for me. Awful. Crap. Gah. And good to know that there is still a bit of taste left in you because Paustovskii is fantastic.
You are certainly no closet critic...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
He was part of the Odessa circle, they all had humour (Babel, Ilf & Petrov) except Paustovskyyiyiy. Still, a good read.Quote:
And good to know that there is still a bit of taste left in you because Paustovskii is fantastic.
Well since this has turned into a book thread why not submit to this, since you have been blessed with good taste despite being completily off have you read this? Was my gift to all of you when there was such a thing such as a bookthread but no takers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Leaves
Never seen that. I thought I'd heard of it, but then I probably confused it with a book about a fish or something that appeared last year and seems to be equally, um, unconventional. This is not some cheap pomo trip?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
It shows why books can still be innovative, there is a trick in the typography you will love it. And at least you wont expect it. gogogoQuote:
Originally Posted by Adrian II
*Considersitconsidersitconsidersit*Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
BTW why did the bookthread die? Because we are in a transitional period from text-based communication to visual communication, right?
Screw transitions.
More concerned about you saying srcewed in a enviroment you are visualising but really, you should read it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adrian II
You look like this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
And you do realize that he's a member of the Labour party?
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*ahem*Quote:
Originally Posted by Adrian II
Might sound strange to you but back then I already did, he had to goQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenring
Alright, alright, you don't **** with the likes of Händel and Vivaldi. Screw this transition, then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vladimir
If I hadn't known better, I'd have guessed that this was a crappy Salafi video, complete with Qur'an excerpts to justify terror, not something made by a man with a peroxide dye.