Team Grizzly? Grrrr. Alright, alright. :clown:
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Team Grizzly? Grrrr. Alright, alright. :clown:
The A-team has decided to protected someone I admire. We are ready to roll.
Oh, and Papa Bear... good luck.
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Originally Posted by Iskander 3.1
The A-team has decided to protected someone I admire.
Aww, shucks, what can i say... I admire myself to ~;)
Oh, and Papa Bear... good luck.
As if i wasn't paranoid enough about death because my over activity...
I kinda was sick, and now, its night time! (actions incoming!)
The night was cold. There were people coming and going, but nothing. It was just another cold night in Orgahstan. Boring as hell, a good soviet movie about defeating nazis could had been better than nothing.
Alive:
A Very Proletariat Market
Iskanderev 3.1
Beskarov
AskTheCaviarGuy
LittleCommunist
Killed:
S0v1eTp3rS0nal1ty
Captain Sovietadder
Ooooh someone's protection worked. :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
AVSM and I can testify that our protection failed (we didn't protect a person who was attacked) but it would have succeeded if that person was attacked.
No actually it didn't... team Grizzly's result is basically the same as yours...
This either means that the killer couldn't kill because he was one of the protection teams, or becuase he was the only one not in a protection team....
So yeah it could be anyone of five...
Well on the bright side we discouraged the killer from killing!!
the cloud being that no one is proven innocent...
Edit: time to go back to good old fashioned detective work and gut instinct...
Checking for inactivity.
I didn't see anyone inactive.
Who is the odd man out for protection teams, again?
I think it was deliberate, the way i set it out if it was beskar he'd be found out, if it was a member of team grizzly or the a-team both players would end up pointing fingers at each other and both would be lynched over 2 days...
Also I think theres the part were we lynch someone first.. so there won't be any odd man out this time...
TBH i have a slight suspicion of my teamate Iksander because i thought first round we had plenty of time to get orders in... although i was saying in thread he did get his orders in but he didn't... so basically he passed up a free oppurtunity to clear himself...
Ok i just talked myself out of that one... this is going to require some thinking and maybe a re read of the thread..
I also suspect Iskander, but no more so than most of the others. I can only begin with the basic premise that I know I am innocent, and that last night, our protection of a certain player failed because he was not attacked.
If a protection had happened, and succeeded, then we could clear that person as innocent.
Ideally we need a sucessful protection, that would clear the protecting team and the attacked... and with 4 of us left after todays lynch, the mafia would be the remaining person...
I dont see us getting that lucky though...
I have sent no to PM's to Caius.
But a stalement really sucks though, cursing Mafia. Unfortunately, I don't know what a "failure" PM looks like, but would it be a different PM if for example, your partner failed to turn up to the protection because they murdered some one else.
vote: LittleGrizzly
Well, it should be easy to deduce what happened. A member of the protection groups is mafia, and did not attempt to kill anyone lest they be revealed. Or, the odd man out simply forgot.
See I was thinking about voting Pizza, now it'd just look like a revenge vote...
For now ill leave it as...
FoS ATPG
On the first night orders what happened, was AVSM unable to make it on in time or did you make no attempt to organise some protection ?
As someone who's more active than me i would think you would have at least done that much as your usual townie self, actually your usual townie self would have been flooding AVSM with pm's and then screaming the walls down that he didn't get back to you...
Ok i have kind of convinced myself anyway... though depending on your answers i may change back...
Vote ATPG
Edit: just went back and looked at your post...
Ohh somebodys protection worked (loads of clapping smileys) I don't think ATPG would have assumed that... or townie ATPG at least..
Edit 2: that whole trusting in your own innocence thing rings some alarm bells as well...
Vote: Ask the Pepperoni Guy
Also, thanks AVSM, I didn't think of that, and I think in that way, you just proved my innocence. I made a conscious effort to arrange some protection with BlackAdder but he never touched this thread since. =/
I don't really mind. I'm innocent so if I die and the game continues, you will look bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly
Why so cautious about voting for me? Strange.Quote:
For now ill leave it as...
FoS ATPG
Frankly I was busy with other games and the speed of this game sort of hit me before I could get off my butt and do anything.Quote:
On the first night orders what happened, was AVSM unable to make it on in time or did you make no attempt to organise some protection ?
Well I'm not my usual townie self, I'm my hosting mafia games and playing in several of them townie self, which sometimes makes mistakes. However, that was a dumb move. Probably one I wouldn't have made if I were paying attention, and trust me if I were mafia I would be a hawk, like I was in the other mini game.Quote:
As someone who's more active than me i would think you would have at least done that much as your usual townie self, actually your usual townie self would have been flooding AVSM with pm's and then screaming the walls down that he didn't get back to you...
You can talk yourself into things. :laugh4:Quote:
Ok i have kind of convinced myself anyway... though depending on your answers i may change back...
Vote ATPG
I'm not sure what answers I can give. I am definitely not mafia this game, but after the previous one I have the boy who cried wolf syndrome. My 5/6 record of winning as mafia would seem to indicate that as soon as I got a mafia role, I would be doing my very best to win. My sloppy play this game, admittedly, makes me a good candidate for a lynch because I don't deserve to be above suspicion. However, we only have so many townies and if we lynch the wrong person, very soon we will be in a position where the game is in jeopardy.
I don't mind you voting for me, but if I get lynched, I will be proved innocent. So if you want, I will vote for myself and not unvote unless YOU tell me to.
I have to admit, from your perspective that probably looks scummy. Chalk that up to sloppy play again, but my team's protection failed and there is only one other team, so... I have to assume since there was no murder, someone's protection worked. It's not much of a leap.Quote:
Edit: just went back and looked at your post...
Ohh somebodys protection worked (loads of clapping smileys) I don't think ATPG would have assumed that... or townie ATPG at least..
By the way, hi ~:wave: I am townie ATPG.
Yeah, yeah.Quote:
Edit 2: that whole trusting in your own innocence thing rings some alarm bells as well...
If you're curious to why I voted for you, I'll tell you. Your own calm, reasonable, verbose discussion with me set off alarm bells in my brain as well. You seemed to be very buddy buddy with me, and in this game that's not a good idea. Is it just me or are you more talkative than usual?
So, funnily enough, you're voting me on strange behavior and I'm doing the same for you. But what is funny is that your vote seems to be a retaliation vote out of nervousness.
You want I should take my vote off of you? Who else should I vote for?
unvote, vote: Askthepizzaguy
And I won't unvote unless either of you who are voting for me change your mind.
You know what happens to AVSM when he does that, don't you? He gets lynched.
In other words, I am going to call you out on your bluff.
Voting for yourself and being apathetic actually helps the Mafia as you are just giving them time to do yet another night kill on the group.
I only change my mind when I am either convinced of the better argument or gut feeling. So putting yourself like this just makes me go with the flow as it were, and allow you to die.
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Originally Posted by Beskar
Actually I did that sort of thing before AVSM did. And I'm not apathetic. I've protested my innocence as best I can without any sort of proof and asked both of you to change your votes.
It is your choice, I don't have the votes to overturn your decisions. I can only protest and say repeatedly that I am innocent. And, if you want me dead this round, I'll even ensure that happens.
But don't you dare say I am apathetic, because I put more effort into responding to your posts than a dozen lurkers do in entire games. Thanks very much. :bow:
I don't like it when you offer your lynch or vote, it throws me off and you've done it as mafia... so do with your vote as you please...
Its a fairly reasonable excuse about the speed of the thing, i don't think ive got caught out too many times though and you are more active than me, fair enough about your other mafia games but its also a nice cover...
You can talk yourself into things.
Lol, it probably's looks quite fake but im thinking out loud so to speak, whilst thinking over it i change my mind, i suppose i could edit the post but i like to show my trail of thought...
I guess it isn't crazy to assume a protection worked but its not the first thing i thought, i was thinking i might have got the mafia worried with the plan we i laid out so they laid low
Firstly yes im more talkative, one because i had some kind of plan here, so i was trying to get that across... and i was trying to encourage people to organise protection... and because i haven't had much sleep (notice me posting alot more elsewhere as well ?)
I do find it quite ironic that we were both getting paranoid about each other because of being reasonable talkative ect.. although you have to take my word on that one because it does look like a revenge vote...
But anyway i was thinking on something sasaki said the other day, one of his flaws is he concentrates too much on active players... i think i may be doing that myself...
Unvote
And stop offering me your vote or anyone else that matter... it brings back bad memorys from another life in Ireland...
Damn it Pizza Vote for yourself when im unvoting you!!
this does make me want to move my vote back on you... why should we listen to your vote yourself appeal when you've done it as mafia ?
Edit: A small FoS on Beskar... maybe my case was a good case or maybe my case was just easy to jump onto...
I think the day AVSM is actually a mafia is the day he posts. Last time he was mafia, he was actually active. This was in one of Pizzaguys minigame threads.
Great, so you're saying that you'll lynch me anyways. Very good. What do I have to say? You are hellbent on killing ATPG, and I have no way to stop. Minis are guessing games.
Iskander/LG, who did you protect last night?
Also AVSM... I called your innocent, why are you so upset with that?
I don't care if anyone calls me innocent or scum, but I don't understand what constitutes as "lurking"
Iskander hasn't posted since 6-02. He's invisible, and he isn't adding to the discussion. AVSM is posting more than him, and to be honest I feel like giving AVSM a break since he's been lynched a lot lately.
I can't get a reading off of someone who is invisible and doesn't post. And he hasn't voted yet, so that makes him pretty much useless to us anyway.
Thinking about it logically, as in kill choice, last nights set up, if anything, proved my innocence.
Let me example.
Imagine one of you 4 are the killer, here are your options:
Attack your partner - The write up would heavily suggest it is you.
Attack the opposite team - This would give your partner a failed message saying your protection never happened due to partner not joining you, it would have revealed.
Attacking me - I was a logical protection choice, thus it would have just proved my innocence, and a protection would have failed.
But there is another factor in the equation -
Krushev is a regular townie, but if lynched or killed, the game end
By this logic, Splitpersonality was not Krushev, which means the real Krushev is in this game and some one is covering for/as him.
Unvote: AskthePizzaGuy
Some one on LG's team is Kruschev and the other is the Bad One. Problem is, which is which.
it is the only logicial conclusion. The game would have ended if Split was Kruschev, but it hasn't. I was paired with BlackAdder, and AVSM and Pizzaguy were paired with eachother.
LG and Iskander never said they were paired with eachother. One of them could have actually been paired with Split, who was an imposter.
AVSM at the moment the tally is
1 ATPG (Beskar)
1 LG (ATPG)
So your vote is prettty useful at the moment
Beskar im not so sure about your theory, me and isk protected ATPG
Im going to leave my vote as an abstain and come back to after some sleep...
Vote Abstain
Edit: it mentioned Isk in my team, its why i automatically paired with him, infact i was the first person to state who my partner was so we could figure out who was with who, incase it would help...
Edit 2: Im fairly sure Caius paired everyone up, or at least thats what i thought...