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1. Gaius Octavius Thurinius brilliant politican and reformer of the empire a complete mastermind.
2. Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix - Brilliant strategist and reformer took the dictatorship and his last year of life he lived in lust and floods of wine until his death.
Thats my list i wouldnt include Alexander for defeating persian rabble army and mountain clans isnt an achivement that great.
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Gee, for a 'rabble army' they sure managed to miraculously conquer quite a bit of land, wouldn't you say?
The persian army was an army of rabble atleast from my point of view under Darius command. The macedonian army was not a pack of rabble, perhaps i was unclear on that. I still see Gengis Khan and the roman empire for example as greater achivements then the one Alexander forged. I dont need an lecture in history about the size of the empire it just my point of view on history, period.
Sorry for going abit of topic.
I'm not too sure there is a right answer to this... I mean we would have to look in contemporary sources and look at which names were mentioned a lot (remember this list is supposed to be about people who would have been famous in their OWN time, not in ours), and if that is the case some surprising and (to our eyes) obscure names might pop up... Also I think the chinese would have some good competitors too, especially considering they did have a proportionally (to the west) high population even at that time...
I personally am not an expert on classical history, but I'm sure we ought to look at the people who were deemed famous in classical texts. Since I am not an expert on them, I'll not make a list....
as for jesus... whether you believe in him or not, he was not yet widely famous in the classical age, that only happened in the later roman empire (out of ouer time frame) so without starting a religious discussion I'd like to exclude him on historical grounds...
Expect a lecture from TPC about Persian army organisation, he wrote many times about this, I remember for example in the discussion about historical accuracy of movies, when he wrote that Greeks shoul be offend by the depiction of Persian army in Alexander, because it lowers Alexanders accomplishments.Quote:
Originally Posted by dake
As much as I like TPC's occasional epic smackdowns with WORDS, I've never seen him respond to that sort of comment though the crazy amount of WORDS dropped on every 300 thread in this forum doesn't bode well to you. Pray.
Is it just me or do people on here not read very well? Everyone is telling us how good their own list is, and slagging of others, whilst ignoring the the fact that this thread was about famous people in their OWN time. Are ego's that important?
Read?! What do you mean, read? This is the Internet! :juggle:
Sorry about that.
:laugh4::laugh4: actually that seems to be the view of quite a few people on hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios
Jesus (the most important person who ever walked this Earth)
Due to lasting legacy (historical and/or intellectual impact)
Caesar
Alexander
Archimedes
Diogenes
Pythagoras
Due to non-existing lasting legacy but at least went down with a big bang (some sort of ancient Paris Hilton-style, i.e. famous for being famous)
(Pyrrhos)
(Hannibal)
(Antiochos the Great)
(Cleopatra/Marcus Antonius)
(Xerxes the Great)
Because those people never did anything of value........
If you believe he did at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by delablake
Thats why I vote we keep religious figures out of this.
Dud I just gave you a great HISTORICAL argument, why we shouldn't include Jesus for HISTORICAL reason (i.e.out of our time frame)Quote:
Originally Posted by delablake
Damn do you even read what other posters post:wall::wall:
We dont care what others write down, we write what we see fit our views, GO GO JESUS:2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Reality=Chaos
Cheers.
:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Reno Melitensis
I might as well bring up Lao Tse and Buddha who were for me personally much more important then that supposed son of God:clown:
This is getting stupid.
Please lock this thread.
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Originally Posted by gamegeek2
agreed I tried to get on topic, but ego's are apparently more important then reading a thread:wall::wall: