Re: do you think prostitution should be legal?
Being half Austrian and half Swedish, and spent an ample amount of time in both countries, I believe I can share some insights (prostitution is illegal in Sweden but Legal in Austria).
In Sweden, most whores are from slavic countries. They work on the street or as call girls, usually controlled by some pimp. They are almost without exception addicted to drugs, an easy way for the pimp to get control.
In Austria, they work in bordells who are strictly controlled by the state. Same as in Sweden, the vast majority is from slavic countries, the difference is that drug use is not as wide spread. At the bordells they also have security if things go wrong, and medical checks every so often.
My stance is that I believe it should be legal. Prostitution WILL exist one way or another, better have it out in the open and under control. Also, I prefer the whores paying taxes instead of the money going to some criminal dirtbag.
As a sidenote: One might say I have prostituted myself on more than one occation... When I have had private lessons at the ski school there has happened that women have wanted me to "escort" them at night, showing them the town and so on. It is clear that sex is included in this offer.
I've never accepted unless it was someone I would have banged anyway, and I never did anything for money that I wouldnt have done anyway for fun...
First time it felt a bit wierd getting some hundred euros for having a pleasent evening and banging some high-society woman...
But I can't say it made me feel bad, or dirty, or anything :)
Guess it's different for men...
Re: do you think prostitution should be legal?
Is anyone here arguing that prostitution represents a moral "good?"
As I'm something of a libertarian, I am reluctant to legislate my morality for others, save when such legislation is required to protect the rights of all, but I can hardly view prostitution as something positive.
I would probably think it best were it legal but frowned upon.
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Seamus Fermanagh
I would probably think it best were it legal but frowned upon.
Would you believe I think the exact opposite?
I want it to be illegal, but wish it wasn't frowned upon.
Why shouldn't protitution be considered a normal means of income? I mean, I have sold my body. To men. Mainly old men. Who desired a few hours of my youthful, manly physical prowess. I was fourteen at the time. No I didn't enjoy it, but I needed the money to buy music and other teenage stuff.
It was hard work, mowing their lawns...
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Just let them do whatever they want, and get a blind eyes on them (and do occasional health check), and that will be ok. Just keep the rules: don't ask, don't tell
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I say legalize it, have the government kick out the pimps and raise the health standard, the standard of living and the overall quality of the prostitutes by giving them free protection, STD checks every week or two and allow them to run their own brothels and charge however much they want to charge at the same time sending any druggies to rehabilitation centers.
Essentially just have a big purge of the prostitution system by giving help to the druggies, arresting the abusive pimps and putting the power in those that are clean and drug free to determine how much they believe they can get for their body.
Idk, just my two thoughts. I figure those that do it just for the drugs need to be taken off the street and given help anyway, so if we are to legalize it that would be a non issue. K, you can all now flame me for obviously not putting enough thought into this and not realizing how stupid/immoral blah blah blah....
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HoreTore
They're not really relevant to the discussion though, as they represent a tiny minority, and they do not in any way represent what prostitution is about.
Ah, they don't fit the simplistic picture that's being drawn, and so can be safely ignored...
Is there some data to back up the claim that the majority are in it because of drugs, that the majority are forced or coerced into it?
~:smoking:
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Helping prostitutes who came here illegally (im assuming a fair few of them are) kick thier drug habits isn't going to be a great political move during a credit crunch (damn foriegn whores taking our money!)
But if we were to legalise we could (theoratically) put aside all the moeny we make from taxing the industry to helping the women themselves. From drug programs to help them get off thier addictions, training to maybe help them learn a useful skill employers want, help with the langauge for those that need it...
Citizenship and protection for those that wish to inform on violent or otherwise illegaly controlling pimps. The people who think prostitution should remain illegal mainly do so because they feel for the prostitute, but surely a system where its legalised and the tax money was used to help these women escape prostitiution would be better for the women themselves ?
Of course new prostitutes would just replace any ones we managed to help out of it, but it would help the women escape the situation far easier than it is possible to do so now...
Is there some data to back up the claim that the majority are in it because of drugs, that the majority are forced or coerced into it?
I have heard various bits of information that backed this up, most documentarys which include interviews with women who worked the bottom end of the market they say they were forced into it, usually to pay debts for being illegaly smuggled into the country... but no i don't have any statistics to back up this fact...
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Getting off opiates is relatively easy: lock 'em up for about 1 week. They'll have detoxed. You might feel like death, but there's relatively little chance of dying - far less than when injecting a respiratory depressant of unknown amount along with impurities into a vein.
Alcohol is harder, but is generally not thought of as a problem in the main.
Again, all prostitutes are doing this against their will, and all would escape.
Are all porn stars doing it against their will? Do they all secretly hate their profession? And no females actively try to raise money via pictures of themselves either alone or undertaking acts with others?
~:smoking:
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Yes, why not? If the woman wants to sell her body, it should be allowed. Making it illegal only makes it worse. People know the dangers of STD's and unwanted pregnancies, can't force people to make decisions.
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MasterPhantom
Yes, why not? If the woman wants to sell her body, it should be allowed. Making it illegal only makes it worse. People know the dangers of STD's and unwanted pregnancies, can't force people to make decisions.
That is the key. If the woman or man wants to sell his or her body, it should be allowed. Prostitution should be legalized, but this should also be accompanied by a massive crackdown on human trafficking.
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Evil_Maniac From Mars
That is the key. If the woman or man wants to sell his or her body, it should be allowed. Prostitution should be legalized, but this should also be accompanied by a massive crackdown on human trafficking.
Yes, I know. Now, if someone is forced to have sex like in human trafficking, then I am against it, but otherwise, I see no problem with it.
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Yes.
End of debate.
Edit: Just ask the Orgah, a grown man, who admitted to never having pulled back his foreskin.
/debate
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Good lord, who got pwned?
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The world will never know.
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You can still see...someone should probably get rid of that.
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Divinus Arma
Yes.
End of debate.
Edit: Just ask the Orgah, a grown man, who admitted to never having pulled back his foreskin.
/debate
I've told you before I can't :whip: And yes it should be legal.
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lars573
I've told you before I can't :whip: And yes it should be legal.
I thought pulling back one's own foreskin was already legal. Isn't it?
Re: do you think prostitution should be legal?
Not if you get paid for it.
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Or if your paying someone else to do it.