To be fair, Florida completely sucks for combat and basically the Americans just pushed them into more and more inhospitable territory whenever hostilites arose.
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To be fair, Florida completely sucks for combat and basically the Americans just pushed them into more and more inhospitable territory whenever hostilites arose.
Exactly. The Seminoles fought hard but had they been in Iowa instead of Florida they would have had a much harder time surviving. Or if gold had been found in their homeland.Quote:
Originally Posted by antisocialmunky
Its really too bad that the Natives were at a complete nadir when white people showed it. It would have made for a slightly more entertaining time period. Still would have lost but would have been less one sided.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelson
The "Indian Wars" were not as one sided as some on here may think. There are many more variables than diseased blankets and what not. The natives were hardcore warriors and guerrilla fighters. But the fighting wasnt continuous. Due to treaties, agreements, etc. fighting was usually short and intense, then there would be a period of peace. In regards to the U.S. Army vs the native tribes, the Army didnt always get the upper hand (Custer's last stand), nor did they always outnumber or outgun the "Indians". Also, the Natives werent stupid. They knew what the "white man" wanted. Most people agree that if the tribes had been able to ally, they may have been able to outfight the Americans (this is just opinion, of course). Remember that modern (for that time) weapons were availble to them and used by them quite often. The only problem was that the tribes would not, could not ally. Many times the U.S. Army would use other indians, either from an opposing tribe or from the same tribe (but from a different clan within that tribe) to help fight them. Then, of course, the U.S. would turn on that "allied" tribe. This happened time and again. Anyways, check out this site....some of the wars lasted for 30-40 years (such as the Apache Wars). Good movies on the subject (historical fiction) is "Geronimo: An American Legend" and "Dances With Wolves".
No, I didnt use these movies as sources. And no, I didnt get this off of Wikipedia.
I remember reading, when the game first came out, quite a few people saying they wished they could play as the natives (I was one of them). Im still not sure if I want to buy this, though. Im still hoping CA will release modding tools like they promised.....not that i can mod or anything. I can understand why some may not be interested in this mod, but my two older sisters are half Navajo (my Mom's first marriage), and I had a few good "native" friends in the Corps, one was Tsimshian from Alaska, and the other was a guy named "Yellowhair" from New Mexico (he had black hair, of course). Not that you guys care, but there it is.
you know you can easily get a mod allowing you to play as the natives for vanilla right?
Well I am no longer able to edit any Native American units without weird side effects... I hope it's only me having this problem:dizzy2:
C'mon C.A., if you're gonna try to milk every last penny out of your fans, at least make it for something more than 2 of them actually want to play. IMO this is arguably the most ill-advised expansion since Germany's last foray into Poland :laugh4:
I won't be buying this. Hell, after the shambles Empire has turned out to be, I'm not even sure I'm going to buy Napoleon. I have to actually make an effort to earn my money, y'know... :inquisitive:
What's up with this so called "expansion"!??? If anything it's just a "cut-out" of the existing game...
Where is the promised "new map"? The map that's in the expansion is exactly the same Americas map that's used in the main campaign. At least, in the Kingdoms expansion for MTW2, the maps for the new campaigns contained more detailed of the relevant, more focused areas.
Even the roaster is not much different from the one available in the main campaign. I checked the building browser for Plains Indidans and only ONE unit appeared to be new... WTF!? If anything, this expansion just could have been a switch on the main campaign making the tribes available for playing as was already achieved by several mods before the DLC campaign.
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Probably a way of making you buy the dlc to be able to use native troops. People have gotten around other such restrictions imposed by CA during the patch cycles by just creating a new version of the same unit and using that as a mod.Quote:
Originally Posted by A1_Unit