NTW: Special Forces Edition. Why?!? CA, why... :(

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Originally Posted by Captain Fishpants

Darth came to CA for an interview a long time ago. He was not offered a position after the interview. It would be highly unprofessional for me to comment in any way on why that might have been. So: don't even think about asking. If you want to, you can read his version of events here: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=113546.

Jack Lusted is currently beavering away on Napoleon. Nice man, appalling taste in hats. :laugh4:



ps: Jack has just beaten me with the hat.

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Well that's what you get for skimming the first couple sentences and leaping to conclusions. :oops:

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Originally Posted by Captain Fishpants

ps: Jack has just beaten me with the hat.

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Mwuhahaha!

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Originally Posted by Captain Fishpants

Oh, nonsense has its place in the great scheme of things, you know. The "hat edition" was a serious discussion in the office: there was a case to be made for doing a pack priced in the hundreds rather than tens of pounds, providing the right extras could be included. However, this is all moot now.

As to saying much else, I don't think that would be a very good idea. Apart from anything else, I don't feel particularly qualified to talk about ETW and I tend to stick to subjects that I know about. This does make my posting style and frequency look a little whimsical, I know, but better that than I create any misleading impressions.

NTW is currently playable, is moving towards completion, and will either be to your taste or not. If you choose to buy it, then you'll have fun with it: there's plenty to keep everyone occupied.

As to corporate strategy, that's definitely not my area of expertise any more. And such things would not be discussed in a public forum anyway.

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Firstly, thanks for answering. I know it's not your fault you can only post witty comments.

I made that comment because of the fact that the 'CA employee'-pressence on the .Org is for a big part just a marketing tool mostly used just before an upcoming release. Adding to that, that pressence is nothing more than nonsensical replies when it should inform.
You get what I'm trying say. Something stops being a productive tool when it only appears to do what it's for.

Sure, nonsense has it place. But information has a bigger one.

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Originally Posted by Peasant Phill

Firstly, thanks for answering. I know it's not your fault you can only post witty comments.

I made that comment because of the fact that the 'CA employee'-pressence on the .Org is for a big part just a marketing tool mostly used just before an upcoming release. Adding to that, that pressence is nothing more than nonsensical replies when it should inform.
You get what I'm trying say. Something stops being a productive tool when it only appears to do what it's for.

Sure, nonsense has it place. But information has a bigger one.

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I don't think that is what it is about at all.

If you look back over the last year or so you will find that there have been any number of informative posts by members of the CA staff.

It has mostly been Jack Lusted but he is a much more frequent visitor than most of the others.

Usually when the information starts to dry up it has been at times when had I been a CA employee, I wouldn't have wasted much time trying to inform or talk to anyone because at times the forums have been in a state of hyper-complaint.

If I guess correctly Captain Fishpants was not on the credits of ETW.

I didn't know if he was still there in other than name but it is good to see him around.

He has always been a bit more comic than informative, but that just may be his personality.

It will be interesting to see if he shows up on the NTW credits.

One think I am not going to do is complain about the presence of any CA personnel on the boards, informative or joking.

Most of the time the information comes form asking the right questions or making incorrect assumption.

Most of their presence is passive, just reading what we have said and not a matter of any sales effort.

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Originally Posted by Peasant Phill

Firstly, thanks for answering. I know it's not your fault you can only post witty comments.

I made that comment because of the fact that the 'CA employee'-pressence on the .Org is for a big part just a marketing tool mostly used just before an upcoming release. Adding to that, that pressence is nothing more than nonsensical replies when it should inform.
You get what I'm trying say. Something stops being a productive tool when it only appears to do what it's for.

Sure, nonsense has it place. But information has a bigger one.

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I'd have to disagree. Most of it is actually useful information like when someone from the team explained the database format of the ETW internal file structure.

@Fishypants. I'm sad there is no hat edition. However, don't let that stop you from posting more often now that ETW hate has died down a little. :beam:

I would like a hat edition but I think the musket edition would be better muhahahahaha!!! Or better yet the 24lber edition :p. I wish we got something more than paper IMO.

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Originally Posted by Captain Fishpants

I wanted the hat edition too, complete with a big hat box as the packaging. And given that I'm taller than our marketing people, I thought I'd win the argument.

Unfortunately, it would have cost far, far, far, FAR too much to manufacture, let alone store, ship and retail. Nice hats are not cheap.

Another idea shot down over the coast of conceptuality by the flak of reality.

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I would have bought it for the hat.:2thumbsup:

The program, on the other hand, still doesn't run on my computer so I'm not liable to buy it without the hat.:thumbsdown:

maybe they can have an ultra limited edition which actually does have this hat, has a signed copy of the box or something and they make about 100 of them too see how many people are actually crazy enough to buy one. That way it actually gives those hard core collectors something to collect, or make 20 or 10 and give them away in some big competition.

Let it go, guys. I think it's rather clever that, through easy to use DLC, we can contribute to additional unit production which perpetuates official work on the game beyond the previous shelf life. Most likely in a couple months these special forces will be available for 3 or 4 bucks anyway. If you have poor impulse control, you will pay for it (not just here, but in every area of your life). If you do not, you can;
-wait for the fire sale DLC
-wait for a modder to create them for free with even more detail
-create interesting units yourself

Just because a company creates a product for a fee and you want it doesn't mean you are entitled to it by default. That is crazy

I love STEAM because it has opened up so many neat opportunities for both PC gamers as well as their developers. Steam will revolutionize PC gaming because it is revolutionizing PC game revenue potential.

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-wait for a modder to create them for free with even more detail

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A cruel jest, surely.

I don't know if anyones complaining about dlc, I'm not complaing, they are more than entitled to release stuff to purchase, what most people have a problem with is the content of the DLC's, I'd would much rather buy something that expands the grand campaign map, adds more factions or does something more interesting than more units.

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Originally Posted by Peasant Phill

Adding to that, that pressence is nothing more than nonsensical replies when it should inform.
Sure, nonsense has it place. But information has a bigger one.

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Personally I really like when the CA folks show their face. I know this isn't a good time for CA folks to show their faces around here, and seeing guys like fishpants and lusted really tells me how much CA (or at least some of their employees) care about their fanbase. I mean nobody's making them come out and respond to your whimsical fancies about a bicorn-laden special edition (which would be pretty cool, admittedly), and, in my opinion, any response from the CA employees is better than no response.

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Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good

A cruel jest, surely.

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I don't think it would be a cruel jest. Modders add content to games and extend the game's interest to gamers. I'm not saying a modder should take every unit CA releases as DLC and steal them and offer them as pirated units (certainly not). However, if a modder sat down, did his own personal research, and painstakingly created the unit of his own accord from scratch (well, sorta), I think that would be fine.

Personally, however, I would pick French or Spanish or Austrian units over piddly American (elite units?!?) any day.

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Originally Posted by Owen Glyndwr

I don't think it would be a cruel jest. Modders add content to games and extend the game's interest to gamers. I'm not saying a modder should take every unit CA releases as DLC and steal them and offer them as pirated units (certainly not). However, if a modder sat down, did his own personal research, and painstakingly created the unit of his own accord from scratch (well, sorta), I think that would be fine.

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The cruel jest is how CA has been ignoring the modding community (while promising the most moddable TW game ever).

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Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good

The cruel jest is how CA has been ignoring the modding community (while promising the most moddable TW game ever).

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Ouch!

That was explained in the first week of release.

There are more things in the game that can be moded, the trouble is it is more difficult to mod this engine than the previous ones.

Which isn't very moddable, is it (nevermind that that's not exactly the story I've heard).

It supposedly one of the more moddable engines ever in the TW franchise.

It has supposedly one of the more moddable engines ever in the TW franchise.

Right!!!! and If my memeory is not playing me false it was also claimed to have the best and most advanced BAI and CAI of any TW game so far- and we all know how well that turned out.

For me the equation is simple: no modding tools for ETW = no purchasing any more TW games.