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Unfortunately not.Quote:
Originally Posted by drone
"The people have spoken but it's going to take a little while to determine what they've said."
Greens have the balance. I cannot stand the thought of Abbott as PM, as I saw on CountArach's facebook wall
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?ei...5063533&ref=mf
Mass suicide if Tony Abbott becomes PM
nearly 20 thousand people attending :laugh4:
The Greens have the balance in the senate, but the government might scrape through to 74 seats, just 2 shorts of a majority in the lower house. In that case, they'd need only the 1 Green and 1 independent (Andrew Wilkie, formerly a Green, and a fairly sensible sort) to govern. The coalition is looking at 72 seats (and would need the support of all 4 independents), so, thankfully, it looks like we won't have Abbott as PM any time soon!!!! So looks like no mass suicide Pever.
Labor might get 74 seats, Coalition 72
lower case p :tongue:
I hope that happens
I voted Greens in the Senate, so it is safe to assume that those would be lowest by default with my vote. Sex Party ftw in the reps.Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
Any news about the results?
Disappointed Greens haven't had a real turnout, as in, having a shot of being a real candidate in the elections.
Hung Parliament Skull. Most likely a Labor led government. There'll be several electorates that will take longer as they are really close, and recounts will no doubt occur.
Lol. That'd be overly optimistic. They did well to get their first MP, especially when you consider 25 years ago they were laughed at and got ~2-5% of the vote. Now they are king-makers in the Lower House and most likely hold a strong position in the Senate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
They're definately gaining. First Greens senator in QLD.
Am I the only one that thinks the Liberals should split from the Nationals?
Me too.
Coalitions should be temporary.
I got no problems with it being a benefit for them, but the Nationals hardly get any seats now, everything is run by the Liberals. They remove them, they lose a bunch of seats they'd probably win back anyway and they remove the "im leader of party x i should rule" fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Oh and to quote some one:
Well done Greens for getting that many votes. I will be cheering for you over here.Quote:
11.6% of the primary vote yet they only get one seat in 150. That's democracy... nevermind
Haha. That quote is silly. The Lower house works on a geographic/population scale, where the electorate votes for their local representative. The Senate is proportional, so the Greens will have 9-10 Senate seats, up from 8. So it is reasonably democratic. The Greens always struggle to gain MPs, because their supporters are not homogenous groups living in the same geographic locations, they are spread across the country.
Greens did superbly well this election. Roughly 11.5% nationally, balance of power, and the first time in the House of Reps (excluding our one win in a by-election). We could well be here to stay for quite some time!
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...m?site=thedrum
Anyone interested in the possible outcomes of a minority government should read this article.
It'd be nice if this debacle gets the members of the House of Representatives actually representing their constituents more, rather than just being a member of the Labor party or a member of the Coalition. It's also good to see that the independents want better telecommunications.
Plus a million. Hopefully something will happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by miotas
Hmm, 72 all, but the Coalition may pick up another one. Who will the independents and the Green support?
OMG, I hope Abbott keeps treating the independents with contempt.
The Green said he's more likely to side with Labor. The independents are difficult to predict, one is a former Nat MP who left the party and is at odds with the Nats.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ_zYZBDmlsQuote:
Originally Posted by Psychonaut
The disturbing thing is that Bob Katter seems relatively sane compared to Steve Fielding and Bill Heffernan. Yes Bill, I'm talking about you - you haven't been making any stupid calls to the independents have you?
Indepedent's wife fields a call from "the devil"
Still no PM yet? Any indication where the balance of power is swinging towards?
Its looking like 72/73 (depending how you look at it) for each major party.
The independants are just shopping around, they'll choose when they need to I guess.
Screw the entire thing and get a republic going, imo.
We'd still have a Parliament :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
But yeah still in teh air. I'm liking the electoral math a lot more for Labor though the more I htink about it.
Well the Greens did a deal with Labor, though that only gives them an extra seat in the all important lower house. In the Senate it will certainly help them alot. The Greens got quite a few concessions too.
And the Treasury thinks Coalition has a rather large black hole in their election commitment costings.
$7-10 Billion. They claimed $250 million for "stopping the boats" as a saving. I love having a credible opposition party...Quote:
Originally Posted by aimlesswanderer
Wilkie sides with Labor. I was almost certain he will but this makes it 74-73, which should be enough to get Windsor and Oakeshott on side which leaves it 76-73 with Katter being irrelevant... thank God.
Katter is a nice enough bloke, but a window licker without a progressive bone in his body.
Unlike the other Independents he is much more willing to use the present position of Parliament towards his own ends. Wilkie for example apparently turned down a huge amount of pork from the Opposition. I could not see Katter doing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychonaut
Damn, this election seems to be taking a long time.
I really hope that the independents don't side with Abbott... thankfully they seem to be inching towards Labor.
Bob Katter has some very strange demands, and it would mess up the country if they were implemented.
Hopefully the major parties get the message that the electorate gave them.
ITS ALL OVER.
Labor 76 - Coalition 75
The idiot Katter went with the Coalition, the other two independants went with Labor, one citing the NBN (new upgraded fibre internet) was the clenching factor.