Let's have a scrap! This week the Mayor of London.

The problem with the Lib-Lab-Con trick is that there's not much between them. It's like walking into a pub that sells mild, bitter and lager but when you examine the pipes they all go into the same barrell. Psychopathic scum the lot of them.

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Originally Posted by InsaneApache

The problem with the Lib-Lab-Con trick is that there's not much between them. It's like walking into a pub that sells mild, bitter and lager but when you examine the pipes they all go into the same barrell. Psychopathic scum the lot of them.

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At least you get three parties to choose from.

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Originally Posted by InsaneApache

The problem with the Lib-Lab-Con trick is that there's not much between them. It's like walking into a pub that sells mild, bitter and lager but when you examine the pipes they all go into the same barrell. Psychopathic scum the lot of them.

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I believ it was Liam Cosgrove here who said in answer to the question whats the difference between Fine Gael and Fianna Fail.

"the Difference is were in and there out" he was Taoiseach at the time just like his father was earlier in the 1920s.

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Originally Posted by Idaho

And why are you quoting from the Guardian? I thought you only quoted from the Telegraph?

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why would we not...........?

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Originally Posted by Idaho

And why are you quoting from the Guardian? I thought you only quoted from the Telegraph?

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Thats says more about you than me. The Columnists in the Telegraph quote the Guardian, and not ironically. Actually, I can quote a female London Jew in the Telelgraph saying the same thing about Livingstone as the male Jew in the Guardian, but I thought it might be more pointed coming from the Left.

I read both papers every day on the premise that the inherrent biases should cancel each other out.

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Originally Posted by Idaho

The trouble with matey, friendly, can-imagine-having-a-pint-with Tories, is that they are still Tories. They have little experience or empathy with the lives of the vast majority of people, and support policies that those in their cultural circle endorse - ones that work to the detriment of that majority and the advantage of that cultural circle.

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Except, matey Tories actually drink in pubs while the current Labour elite only drink in trendy wine bars, and that really begs the question of who is most out of touch.

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Originally Posted by Idaho

Labour are a sack of ship, it's true. The Tories though... even for them, this lot are poor. They seem to be making it up as they go along (in fact you can remove the "seem to be").

I'm looking for even lower turnouts in the next election. That's when the established parties are in big danger of being picked off by single issue candidates... as I have long predicted, and is already happening.

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You mean like the Muslim "I'm not a Muslim, I swear!" George Galloway?

How is that better?

If you really don't like the system maybe you should stand in the next General Election, or even a local one.

Ding ding ding.

Boris wins.

Saw that one coming.

Thanks be to God.

Edit: Knifing the Jew-hater: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/da...k-out-for-you/

And in the fight of slimey posh tosser against slimey not so posh tosser the posh one wins.

Who cares really?

I didn't even go vote last week as I couldn't decide whether to vote for the one who got a bin put in the high street or the one who got the gents toilets closed due to all the, err, goings on, or the rest of them who, well, just are apparently.

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Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla

If you really don't like the system maybe you should stand in the next General Election, or even a local one.

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I am unconvinced that participating in something daft can lead to it becoming less daft.

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Originally Posted by Idaho

I am unconvinced that participating in something daft can lead to it becoming less daft.

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Democracy is not daft. If everybody who said our current crop of politicians are stooges either stood or voted for an independant against the stooges there would be far fewer stooges in power.

Refusing to participate in the system means aquiencing to being governed by it.

If you really believe it's that bad then you should actually oppose it, otherwise you're just indulging in the international sport of pointless bellyaching.

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Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla

Thanks be to God.

Edit: Knifing the Jew-hater: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/da...k-out-for-you/

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Observing the fact that the Jewish community is wealthy is like observing the fact that the American black community is poor. And the link between wealth and voting patterns is obvious.

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Originally Posted by InsaneApache

The problem with the Lib-Lab-Con trick is that there's not much between them. It's like walking into a pub that sells mild, bitter and lager but when you examine the pipes they all go into the same barrell. Psychopathic scum the lot of them.

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Spot on, how people are interesting in following these parties or getting invovled with them is beyond me.

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Originally Posted by Rhyfhylwyr

Observing the fact that the Jewish community is wealthy is like observing the fact that the American black community is poor. And the link between wealth and voting patterns is obvious.

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Wrong on both counts, not only are their relatively poor Orthodox communities, but as a bloc the Jewish vote tends to cant left, just like the rural poor tend to cant right. Read the article, what the guy is saying is that the Jewish vote supported Labour Councillors and Assembly members, but not Ken.

That's because he hates Jes.

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Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla

Wrong on both counts, not only are their relatively poor Orthodox communities, but as a bloc the Jewish vote tends to cant left, just like the rural poor tend to cant right. Read the article, what the guy is saying is that the Jewish vote supported Labour Councillors and Assembly members, but not Ken.

That's because he hates Jes.

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I doubt Ken hates Jews, it was most likely an attempt to make a populist appeal to Muslim voters that backfired.

As for poor Jews, there are immigrants that came over from Eastern Europe in the past couple of hundred years that are not particularly wealthy, but they are fairly distinct from the more established Jewish families that have very disproportionate wealth compared to the UK population as a whole.

There is nothing conspiratorial about this, is it the natural result of the historic professions they were forced into, as well as the fact that they have a strong, supportive community and focus on education.

Their historic support for the left (although nowadays weaker) wasn't due to the economic side obviously but because the left was seen as less hostile to minority groups.

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Originally Posted by Rhyfhylwyr

I doubt Ken hates Jews, it was most likely an attempt to make a populist appeal to Muslim voters that backfired.

As for poor Jews, there are immigrants that came over from Eastern Europe in the past couple of hundred years that are not particularly wealthy, but they are fairly distinct from the more established Jewish families that have very disproportionate wealth compared to the UK population as a whole.

There is nothing conspiratorial about this, is it the natural result of the historic professions they were forced into, as well as the fact that they have a strong, supportive community and focus on education.

Their historic support for the left (although nowadays weaker) wasn't due to the economic side obviously but because the left was seen as less hostile to minority groups.

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Well that nixes "The Jews are Rich" because families like the Goldsmiths and Roschilds are not voting blocks unto themselves.

As for Red Ken, I invite you to look at the links I posted in their thread.

I'm not just talking about your ultra-rich families, I mean those that are well established in the legal and finance side of things.

From wikipedia:

"British Jews generally have high levels of educational achievement. Compared to the general population, they are 40 percent less likely to have no qualifications, and 80 percent more likely to have "higher-level" qualifications."

It is just a fact that they fare better in education and employment.