Bethlehem Christian farmer holds out against settlers and the IDF

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Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla

I'm going to take a punt at this, just for fun.

What's odd about Swedish Jews?

How about that they're still recognised as Jews, even if non-religious?

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For the average person they aren't known to be Jews.

To find them, you have to specifically search if they're Jews and that boils down to having Jewish ancestry.

They don't have a say in the matter, it's their opponents or "proponents" (aka people that drags out any famous people with Jewish connections to show that the Jews are great).

It's basically the one-drop rule. Anyone here having Swedish ancestors? I'll be here insisting that your grandchildren should be classified as Swedes because of that.

Just read through this entire thread. Interesting read.

The question of identity politics, Jewish or otherwise, is a vast one. Entire departments spring up at universities to study each and every facet for each and every identity.

One common theme that comes out of LGBT/Jewish/African-American/Latin/Muslim/Native American/you-name it is the very phenomenon I just saw portrayed in 3 pages.....

Pluralism brings out the nascent bully in the best of us. On the one hand, we exclude the 'other', and demand that any attempts on their part to join the homogenous majority are evidence of their "sneakiness" and "craftiness" and proof positive of their insidious means to subjugate the glorious majority, culturally or otherwise.

Thus rejected, said minorities seek to establish a group identity of their own as the chaff among the wheat. And the pluralistic majority again turns their disparaging eye to said minority and claims that the minority is willfully and rebelliously maintaining their identity, evidence of what? You guessed it, yet again, evidence of their "sneakiness", their "craftiness' and proof positive of their insidious means to subjugate the glorious majority, culturally or otherwise.

It's a case of damned if they do, damned if they don't, no?

I think we have to be careful throwing the insult "racist" around, as I haven't heard anyone advocating for a system of suppression. But I do think the lack of self-awareness by some very intelligent folks here is astonishing.

Back to the original topic, well played Idaho, nice dynamic to introduce. It's unfortunate that such cases exist. I can offer no reasonable explanation at first glance. Muslim or Christian, Israel's identity politics are particularly tricky. I do business there and have visited several times. A good Israeli friend of mine has asked me on more than one occassion if I'd ever consider moving there. Painfully, I had to hurt my friend by telling him the truth "No, I am not ethnically Jewish. The only way my family could enjoy equal protection under the law would be to become religously Jewish, something we are unwilling to do (though I do gratefully accept what the Jews have brought to the collective human spiritual experience).

I'm not certain why Israel gets singled out on these though. Few are the nations that allow for unfettered ownership of private property, let alone public goods by entities they perceive as not part of the self-identified nation state.