Just for Laughs - the "Time" Magazine "Review"

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Originally Posted by Duke John

Then bear in mind that SP players are able to both compress time and pause the game so they should never be hindered/irritated by time. Although use of them does take away some immersion.
MP players doesn't have the option to use either of them.

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It appears that CA is attempting to impliment pause, normal, double and triple speed for multiplayer battles. There are code statements in the demo which stipulate that either all players must agree on a speed change or one player can force a speed change. This is probably why the speed slider has been replaced with descrete speed settings. However, even if sucessfully implimented, this is not going to solve the issue at normal gamespeed of having too much to do and not enough time to do it at the height of the battle. Also, if a player is winning, he is not going to want to pause the game and give the player who is loosing a chance to issue extra orders.

CBR, yeah you're correct. Most of the time will be spent on marching and reinforcements. I'm hoping that reinforcements will be done in a less boring and time-consuming manner, although I can't imagine how.

Still, during the marching process, if you group units and march them together, then many will periodically enter the running mode to catch up and keep the formation during manoeuvres. So, an element of the time-consuming marching period will be quickened and it should allow for quicker alterations to formations in reaction to the opposition.... However, once the battle pace has begun and with 20 units under your control, reacting then to situations will be more problematic. It will mean that much of the tactical planning and unit arrangement will have to be done long before the high-speed fighting has begun, when the units are sprinting around at breakneck speeds.

One main difference in RTW is that there is a population loss for each unit you make. I guess that will remove the ability to build loads of stacks as we saw in MTW.

If you have 2 armies that join a battle and both are controlled by your familiy members then both are supposed to enter the batte right away. One is just under AI control.

I think/hope that will mean no more hour long battles with loads of reinforcements we had in MTW.


CBR

Oo, that sounds quite promising CBR! The best part of MTW was always the start of the campaigns where battles and unit stacks were comparatively small. It's not to say a good 3000 vs 3000 battle isn't good fun, it's just when it's the nth battle of that turn with those numbers the battles fast become boring - especially if you just know you're going to win against the often technically inferior AI.

IIRC CA did state that in RTW you were supposed to have fewer but more important battles. I guess that will be the consequences of the new army move system as well as population to limit number of units.

I quickly got bored with MTW SP because of boring battles as well as limited strategical gameplay. I was very much looking forward to RTW...and then the demo came.. oh well we will see


CBR

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IIRC CA did state that in RTW you were supposed to have fewer but more important battles.

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One main difference in RTW is that there is a population loss for each unit you make.

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That is fantastic! I didn't knew this for 100%, but if true, then it will be IMO one of the most important features of R:TW.
I believe that it was said elsewhere that the player can only make an army if he has a free general for it. You can't have unlimited amount of generals (thus loads of battles) since you only get a general once in a while. Or so I have heard. If that is right, plus the inclusion of modding tools, then I will forgive CA for the minor faults :grin:

Gah dont sound so surprised..now Im wondering where I read that heh..


CBR

Hey, give me a break. :grin: I am not that into R:TW as others around here. I haven't read every review/FAQ/official post to get every bit of information. It's just that I'm preparing my Wars of the Roses mod for R:TW and the above features are another piece of the puzzle to make it a little bit more complete. But god I hope that we don't need to wait months for a patch, tool or release before R:TW becomes moddable.... you have probably heard me say that before, but CA says that R:TW is very moddable, but that doesn't say anything. If I'm not able to make new models and animations then I won't even buy the game.

Lord Ludens, thank you for your kind words. I hope you will, when the time comes, honor me with some Rome MP fights of epical proportions. :bow:

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If you find my comments arrogant and elitist, then so be it. I'll live.

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On the contrary, Barkhorn, I have never considered you to be arrogant, but you may be elitist whenever you please! ~;) But seriously, I have always found your contributions to be quite profound, your comments were adept and to the point, and I cannot recall one occasion when I read you post that I have thought off to be foolish or shallow. I’m not targeting you for your initial post in this thread either, and I have grinned as well when I read it!



Louis de la Ferte Ste Colombe,

I have decided some time ago not to embark into M.TW online gaming, since I have never been an active online player in any game until the last six months. Its just me; I’ll play TW online when I get Rome, and then I will make my final decision on whether I like the MP part or not.

Duke John: I think I read somewhere that included with the game is the unit maker and building maker that CA actually used. ~D

Then they are gods worth the sacrifice of at least 3 goats and 4.7 chickens!

:medievalcheers:

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Originally Posted by voigtkampf

On the contrary, Barkhorn, I have never considered you to be arrogant, but you may be elitist whenever you please! ~;) But seriously, I have always found your contributions to be quite profound, your comments were adept and to the point, and I cannot recall one occasion when I read you post that I have thought off to be foolish or shallow.

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Thank you for the kind words Kampf. I wasn't offended or anything.
~:cheers:

Barkhorn.