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Having never played stw i would definitely like to see something involving the asians with the new shogun engine, eurasia total war would be pretty sweet. However i think it will be napoleonic total war which i am sceptical about due to the involvement of gunpowder weaponry which i never cared much for in mtw. America total war encompassing all of the americas would be interesting but i doubt it would hold much sway with the european patrons.
There are plenty of possible next TW series that I would like to see, for instance:
- Conquistador TW in the Americas
- Napoleonic TW, but not probable due to Imperial Glory
- Ancient Empires TW: Babylonians, Sumerians, Egyptians, Hittites, Assyrians etc
- Dark Ages TW in Europe - perhaps not enough variety in units though?
- or something like the Horse&Musket TW mod, sounds okay too, plenty of (civil) wars, huge variety in units...
and even
- Mediaeval TW bis, would be great though nothing "new".
Oh well, this is just dreaming. First I'll enjoy RTW before thinking too much of another TW series.
evolutionary:
1. Ancient Art of Total War: China, Vietnam, Korea, etc.
2. MTW2
(hey, why not just toss in two at once?)
*I think this could include the MP campaign. :duel:
revolutionary:
1. 1400-1870: Napoleonic, Conquistadors, American Revolution, American Civil War, etc.
2. ?
*MP campaign if it isn't already done, voice-over-ip to talk with others in MP battles and campaigns, battlefield fortifications (digging pits, etc.), naval battles :surrender:
revolvolututionary:
1. any time period, I don't care
*All of the units are 3D holograms on a tabletop ~:eek:
Star wars, total war...
Honestly, "The Art Of Total War" Which is STW revisted... It's a shame most don't know the awesome that is shogun...
I know what I'm about to suggest is considered heresy to some here but...
Middle Earth Total War.
Just once in a strategic game like MTW, EU2, Civ(x) etc, I'd like my reason for expansion to be more than just greed.
I doubt they could get the license to make it since a "competing" :laugh: title already has it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Qilue
As for me, I started with MTW so I have never seen STW so that would be interesting to me. I would also buy a MTW2 in a heartbeat.
I expect to see a fantasy offering; possibly tied into D&D or I was thinking an Everquest, but Everquest domain doesn't really have the concept epic battle.
~:cool: I believe taht they might be thinking about Greece:TW
Forum: Total War. ~:)
Just imagine it: Grognards vs 'arcade' players, MP vs SP, mods vs soon-to-be-banned idiots, old timers vs noobs. ~D
Wat about smily TW
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Hi, this is The Sword of Cao Cao, my account went and commited seppuku though. You might remember me leading the revolution for China Total War.
I'm back. Oh and by the way to whoever said something about evolution and revolution, China would be a total revolution. BIGGER BATTLES. Even in the Rome demo, the battles still seemed kinda small units wise. Chinese battles were so damn huge it's not even ufnny. There are records of some Warring States era battles cobtaining over a million men. Thats just one way it would be so revolutionary. Plus CA has completely ignored Asia for the most part. They concentrated only on Japan and Mongolia. Warfare was so different and no less epic in Asia! So many different weapons, maneuvers, differnet politics, such advanced technology for its time. While Europe was hurling rocks, the East was making and using bombs, landmines and flamethrowers. And of course the emphasis on a warriors personal honour. With this game we would get the Warring States period to the 3 Kingdoms era. With the expansion we would be able to get India, Mongolia, Indo-China, natives! Even the primitve headhunters still had intreresting ways of warfare. And no less efective. I'm all for the gunpowder age, but dont forget Asai too! This is not "Mostly European Total War" this is "Total War". Do Asia first, IT WILL SELL, then possibly the ancient, ANCIENT eras, like Babylon, Egypt, Israel, Myceanae (or do this for Rome expansion!), THEN move on to the gunpowder age. In fact we could knock it out in one expansion, one other game. First use the ancient, ANCIENT idea for the Rome expansion, then do China Total War.
While, I agree that an asian total war with focus on the chinese would be great(bow before the great warrior Lu Bu! ~D ), I would really like to see a total war taking place between 1450 and 1700.
I think most people just think of Spain's and Britain's Conquest of the New World and somehow think of this as a "peaceful" time in Europe. This ignores the constant warring of the times. In the East you had the Ottoman Turks at the height of their power attempting to conquer eastern Europe, and of course the reconquista did not end until 1492. The selection of units would be cool, you would have lots of gunpowder, but plenty of heavy armour and melee. Maybe for a *real* challenge, you could also play as the various North or South American natives.
This time period mainly interests me because I am fascinated by the Ottoman Empire, basically the only post-medieval non-European empire that was equal to the Europeans in might.
Thing about accounts of ancient battles is you have to take out a zero or 2, at the very least divide by 5, to be in the ball park as far as numbers of men in a battle/army go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samurai Steve
i really don't see what some people have against gunpowder only total war game. I mean a 16th century western european army is gonna have ,in MTW parlance, swiss armoured pikemen, gothic knights, halbrediers, arqubusiers, culverins or serpentines, and some kind of light cavalry.
I would love to see a eurasia total war.
American Civil War:total War!!!
I'd be happy with MTW:2 although i'd be interested in an american civil war/american conquest period
Whatever the setting for the next game, I also would like the engine to include 3D naval battles. This could add a whole new dimension to gameplay. Imagine what RTW would be like if you could add Themistocles and the battle of Salamis, etc. Probably would take a already excellent game and make it an instant classic.
OK, I got tired reading all of the posts on this thread, but here are my two cents:
If Medieval 2 was announced today, I would head to the store and put my pre-order in. I think Medieval was terrific fun, and updating it to the current engine and strategy system would be amazing.
Here are some requests for new features, if they remake it:
Tactical sea battles.
The ability to design your own fortifications and castles.
Larger map that includes East Asia, but make the distance penalties and natural barriers such that it would not be feasible to govern an empire that stretches from Europe all the way to East Asia. That would keep a realistic separation between the Eastern and Western cultures, but it would still allow limited contact and invading hordes.
Perhaps some more fleshing out of the feudal system that would create families vying for power within your empire. It would be interesting to manage the power struggles among your vassals, and it would also be interesting to be able to grant authority to nobles who could then govern portions of your kingdom, if you desired. There is a whole complex dynamic that could be fleshed out there.
More emphasis on significant characters who would affect science (technology), religion, medicine (public health), exploration, culture, etc. It would be interesting if you could choose to entice a great artist, philosopher or man of science to your court, as in return for your patronage you could benefit from advances. I guess what I'm getting at is freeing up the advance of technology so that some of it comes from your king's initiatives, but also there would be great thinkers and inventors who would make discoveries on their own. Luck and an inclination toward encouraging intellectuals could increase your chances of benefitting from these discoveries, but maybe the trade-off would be that it would increase things like public dissent within your empire.
Indian subcontinent 1300 - 1600
lots of bonkers units
See? I told you guys they wouldn't make a China Total War!
While MTW2 would be a dream come true to me and STW2 would be most welcome in my machine. I'd also enjoy a Renaisance TW game. Gunpowder was not that reliable at the time and cold steel still ruled the bloodfields. :duel:
Most other versions are ok to me. A Three Kingdom TW game would be great too. What I wouldnt stand is an american conquest game. I see no fun in killing thousands of mayans and aztecs using 300 conquistadores. There is a game about it already, played the demo and convinced me not to buy it. ~:eek:
hooray, my suggestion of Eurasia: Total War seems to be gathering some momemtum. :bow:
I thought that MTW was the best, afterall I played it fairly continuously for 2 years, however the Idea of Eurasia is very appealing.
A Napoleonic game would be the best next installment IMHO, and could probably outshine Imperial Glory (which looks more like Praetorians-style RTS with a strategic layer than a true strategy/war game). Although, naval combat is a must have for a Napolenic game. Actually, I would have preferred that they include naval combat in this game (massive battles of triremes and such). The abstract naval units were fine or MTW, as naval power was not much of a factor for many of the powers/time periods covered there, but such would not be the case for a Napoleonic game.
BTW, the gunpowder units were my favorites in MTW.
The only problem with Napoleon Era Total War is that while most of the battles and such were fought in Europe, most of the reasons why it was fought their was because of wealthy foreign territory and colonies all around the world...it would have to include almost the entire world to be played effectively...It could start around 1750 and end in 1860s, each turn could be divided by the seasons...effectively 3 months per turn, but Naval Battles would have to be essential..and would be cool anyway!
Yeah, it could be more or less a 17th to late 18th century total war. I think it would be interesting to have the creation of Germany as a nation, aswell as the Franco-Prussian War of the 1870's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wazikashi
Yeah...it would be interesting to see it played out well though...like certain factions would have events happen to them that completely change their AI. Like France would go from a slightly aggressive(but slightly passive) Monarchy to a democracy which would spawn Napoleon...it would be a nice change from the medieval and pre medieval tactics we've all been used to seeing. The other thing is...that it would be imperative to have subgenerals and Marshals, that way you could effectively have massive armies each one with individual companies of 200-500 men. The Campaign map strategy would be far more vital to victory than the actual battles. You could tell your subgenerals to do certain things while in battle mode...but they figure it out most of the bloody details on their own. Like for example you order them to take a defensive position on ridge X...he moves his men...or certain companies of his men onto that ridge and defends it...while you have another General with 30,000 men order to flank right...its all complicated stuff and hard to tell in a lot of detail but you know where I'm getting at...the point is you wouldn't be able to command single armies of 100 to 8000 men like in RTW and MTW on your own realistically.Quote:
Originally Posted by WarHawk
You'd have to add in the 19th cntury too then. ~:)Quote:
Originally Posted by WarHawk
But I am with you.
Unfortunately, I don't think that an Asia TW woul be different enough. As an expansion pack to RTW yes, but otherwise there only so many things you can do with (basically) sword/spears/bows + local weird units.
The 17th/18th/19th century offers so many different possiblities the mind boggles. You could start with basically MTW(ish) units, but players who didn't balance aggression/economics with upgrades early on would be heavily penalised when faced with gunpowder enemies.
It "looks" very different as far as a game developer is concerned.
There are loads of different factions competing.
Formations and their evolutions conformed historically to the tactical gameplay in TW (unlike MTW, I didn't like the "sophistication" it forced on units like peasants).
There are lots of different unit types/weapons.
Flanking by the sea is possible.
I think the age of imperialisim should be done say somewhere in the 1500-1800 area a map like RTW but the scope would be the entire world
establish colonies
fight natives
fight other empires at home and abroad
tons of units
huge tech tree
there were so many little and big wars in that era + the world domination factor attracts a lot of people
I'd like to see a pre-european invasion version of Total war set in north and south america. There were 52 nations in what is now Canada alone and it's ground nobody else is covering. The cultral diversity is immense, from the northern inuit to the southern maya for example. Then use the invasion by europeans like they did the Horde in MTW and have them as unlockable nations. For example the failed viking colony in Newfoundland around 1200 ad, or the Spanish invasion in the gold rich south 400 years later.
Doubt it will ever happen, but it would be really cool and could be done in my opinion. Early america is an open and fertile ground for this game.
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meh. The American natives didn't have horses until well after the conquistador period in mexico, they would mainly be comprised of spear infantry...slinger infantry...archers...and atl-atl infantry. Perhaps the use of Geurilla Warfare would be more prominant in tactics than elsewhere but other than that it doesn't interest me in the slightest.