Nazi straight-arm salute

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Originally Posted by Gregoshi

Congratulations Rosacrux! I didn't know. If your wife is the typical female, this thread will not be the last time you are confused about what was said. :laugh4:

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Thank you Gregoshi!

Oh, a task I was never brave, or curageous enough to uphold, was understanding women :dizzy2: . I've learned to live with them, but seized trying to understand them (because that's precisely what they aim for, confuse us and make us work hard to understand them... when - I suspect - there's really nothing to understand... ~;) )

She is typical in that account (and in the shopping thing as well... we've hit London in our little honeymoon trip and she ravaged Harrods, Selfridges and Harvey Nichols ~:eek: ) but atypical in most others... and she has Job's patience as well ~D

Back to our regular progr... err, topic

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Originally Posted by Rosacrux redux

Hmmm... I tend to believe this is the topic of Confusion (with a capital "C")

Kraxis, you lost me. I was not referring to the term (which, as you say, is interpreted differently according to nationality and/or political leanings - you know that most Republicans in the states call Clinton a... socialist?) but to the notion that this gesture was originated from anything like socialists.

Or did I get you wrong?

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I'm not certain actually... :dizzy2:
Well, let me clarify what I wanted to say.
I meant that if Shadow had any similar idea of socialists as I do, then it is far from mutually exclusive that catholics could be socialists. In fact when we talk about the 1850's in America then all those small communities have many more ties with socialism than with the current capitalism, with little point in talking about traditional views of religion.
Thus Shadow could have meant that those catholics were also the socialists as they had plenty in common back then. But lets not get into such a marginal issue. ~:cool:

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Originally Posted by Rosacrux redux

Or have we all lost it?

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Quite likely!

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Originally Posted by Rosacrux redux

Darn... did I mention that since December 26th I am a married man? A heroic woman has undertaken with great courage the vicious task to tame this rough beast

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Wow... congratulations!
So you still have fun each day I guess, or rather several times each day. ~D Good luck... And btw, what all the great thinkers have agreed on is that women are the greatest mystery on Earth. So don't feel bad if you don't, the rest of us don't either. ~:cheers:

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Originally Posted by Rosacrux redux

Next time I go to Rome I'll actually examine the parts of the column (if accessible from close...) because last time I was there I was definitely not trying to find evidence of a straight arm salute...

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It's almost impossible to get a close look at it these days, but there are several museums that have quite good plaster casts of parts of the column (in some cases, the casts are better than the original, since the casts were taken in the 1800s and have been preserved from the erosion that is slowly destroying the original today :cry:). The Victoria and Albert Museum in London has one of the best casts; but I think there are also copies at the Louvre and other of the big museums around the world (also in one of the Museums in Rome, of course - can't remember which, though).

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Back to the salute, I wonder if there is something "universal" about the straight-armed salute leading it to be adopted independently by different people at different times.

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An outstretched open right hand is a fairly universal human signal to indicate "look, I'm unarmed, I come in peace". Generally, I'd think its not too far from such a gesture (which, e.g., the "doffing of the helmet" thing also represents) to an outright usage as a salute. So I would suggest that there is.

And congrats, Rosacrux. As someone said: A man gives many question marks, a woman is a whole mystery. ~D

talking about woman is a whole mystery do you guys have anyway of getting a woman you love to be your gf. ~;)

Lol, why are you guys dissing women? Women are the same as men, except more delicate and with more finece. If you don't understand women then you should pretend you're gay for a little and you'll see it's not really that different.

That ploy doesn't work when you are married to them BP. And we're only "dissing" women in a playful way, otherwise we wouldn't be married to them. Just as men have issues with women, women have their share of issues with men - some as simple as the classic battle of putting the toilet seat up/down. If it weren't for these issues, comedians would lose 1/3 of their material. :laugh4:

Shadow, just be yourself.

Oh, BP, when you grow up a bit you'll understand that women and men are from two completely different planets. When you live for a while with one, you'll establish that notion. And when you decide to marry her, you've managed to live with it.

Shadow, a woman you love has to like you for what you are, a woman you just like to boink you should let see in you whatever pleases her.

Meaning, if this is serious, take Gregoshi's advice and just be yourself. If it ain't... just be what she likes the most.

Thanks for the advice guys but it’s not me who’s having this problem but a buddy of mine.

He is really serious with this girl but it seems that she don’t think much about him. She doesn’t reply his sms and can’t find a common topic to start a talk with her it just like he is not even in her point of vision.

WOW, this has gone really off topic.

I don't think men and women are really that different. Now this is interly different when one party is just being difficult. The tiolet seat thing has a very easy solution, just pee sitting down. You can get used to it. You don't even have to worry about splashing pee all over and then having the whole washroom smelling like pee.

One awesome thing that I loved about Hitler and his boondoggle he had in the 30's and early 40's was his big parties he would throw and all the soldier would march around in perfect step. It's quite the sight to behold, though I'd much rather be watching Roman or any other Ancient civilization (even Medieval) drill with their equipment on... but it's something to ponder.

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Originally Posted by Colovion

One awesome thing that I loved about Hitler and his boondoggle he had in the 30's and early 40's was his big parties he would throw and all the soldier would march around in perfect step. It's quite the sight to behold, though I'd much rather be watching Roman or any other Ancient civilization (even Medieval) drill with their equipment on... but it's something to ponder.

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Indeed... I always found the footage of the soldiers marching down the steps to be rather awesome. A whole line of men suddenly dropping a step down, then the next, then the next and so on. Suddenly it was like a wave. Nice.

And BP, we are different. Women are complex, men are not. Women are used to the complexity, we are not. Thus comes the problems. Women might think (and this is one of many such possibilities) "Why doesn't he understand what I'm meaning" when she has in fact only been giving small hints at it, basically she asks us to read her mind. Men on the other hand can't see it at all, and we most certainly don't understand why they think we could do that. Men are pragmatic, while women often are not. So we focus right ahead, but can't see the surrounding areas (the reason why men don't get bothered with noise, theradion and TV as you read while playing computer). Women see it all and get bothered real fast by distractions (so you see there are positives and negatives with it).
And listening to the girls... Doesn't work on getting to understand them. I used much of my teens as the guy that the girls used for reference, the one that got all the secrets and so on. I still don't get them despite the fact that I should know them better than most girls do themselves. I just don't have the right background to actually get into their heads.
Of course I knew which strings to play on to get closer and all that (you do learn things from them), but did I understand their ways? No... I understood what they did but not why and that is a major difference.

So this means women are a complex bunch which takes experience to know how to deal with. :book:

Now let’s get back to the topic at hand.