On those Thorakitai Argyraspidai... what are a centurion and an aquilifer doing next to Seleucid troops? Just wondering, otherwise sublime work!
~Wiz
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On those Thorakitai Argyraspidai... what are a centurion and an aquilifer doing next to Seleucid troops? Just wondering, otherwise sublime work!
~Wiz
I suppose Prom's using some generic roman unit just to show us his models. It's not a fully finished unit.
Yeah, that's what I thought... still, waiting for Prom's answer ~;)
~Wiz
About the Sacred band: No horse armour would cover a horse's rear. It's not smart, trust me! :charge:
Not necessarily armor... it could just be a little design or something. It just looks to bare the way it is.
He doesn't have to add anything unless its historically acurrate. Which I hope is the case... ~DQuote:
Originally Posted by Wonderland
Yes yes, I know about the whole doesnt-have-to-look-nice-long-as-its-accurate thing, and I'm all for it. I'm just saying if theres lets say more than one historically accurate version of the unit, it'd be best if they chose the one that looks a bit better ~:)
Sorry, Urnamma, I didn't clearly understand your answer. Who are those guys on pic? Seleucid imitation of Roman legionaries that never existed in reality, but will be in our mod? Or something specifically Seleucid, just using some Roman weapon (and tactics?)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Urnamma
Those guys are Thorakitai Agryraspids, which is I think a post reform Seleucid unit.
Urnamma was refering to the imitation legionnaries because the Thorakitai look kinda romans (though they aren't the 'imitation legionnaries' you can find in every wargame - or in RTW, as the silver shield legionnaries or something like that - but who probably never existed).
Well, that's what I've understood at least ~;)
I'm not Urnamma, but I did the concept art for the model on Urnamma's request.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dead Moroz
He is saying they are mistaken for imitation legions due to the fact that they fight in a 'Roman Style'. It's not shown in the screenshot, but those Thorakitai Agyraspidai would carry three javelins into combat as well as a spear: And like the Romans, they would throw the javelins into combat before engaging. This lead people to believe they where imitation legions.
These guys were the elite of the Seleucid Hypaspistai, and I'm guessing they would be used in roles for covering the phalanx, or engaging the more mobile units of barbarian armies and things like that.
Hope that helps a bit. Correct me if I'm wrong Urnamma.
- Seydlitz
You misunderstand me. I meant that there wouldn't be anything at all covering the horses butt. They releve themselves while walking, and I have never seen any drawings with anything covering their rear.Quote:
Not necessarily armor... it could just be a little design or something. It just looks to bare the way it is.
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Originally Posted by Steppe Merc
Oh I see, I see. That very well might be true, but the first thing that pops up in my head is the horses that the medieval knights mounted. I believe they had their entire body covered.
http://www.knightlife.net/newhorse.jpg
As for relieving themselves, apparently they have a little slit in the back
http://www.horsegazette.com/Monthly_...ts%20fight.jpg
But for gaming purposes, if they can't exactly design the little slit, I think it should be fine. Everyone knows 3d horses don't 3d poo ~:)
First off let me congratulate you on your MOD, it´s looking great, can´t wait to get my hands on it nad start playing. You will show ppl that realistic is fun!Kudos to you :bow:
Acording to some historians, immitation legionaries were made up of locals trained by veterans from military roman colonies, as well as those of the said colonies. So it wouldn´t be too far fetched to actually have some kind of second-rate legionaries one some of the nations adjacent to the empire as well as in some client-states (i.e Military advisors were sent to Numidia to train locals in roman arms and tactics, although I can´t find any evidence of their actual performance, and this was during the Punic Wars).
Few of questions on Sucessor states (bear with me :wiseguy:):
*Will there be Galatian auxiliaries (which were so common among the Sucessor states)?
*It was also my understanding that Seleucids used Companion-like cavalry instead of Cataphracts.What will be your take on this?
*Will shields be replaced by the thureos in any of the "Greek" factions?
*Will pikes be available to the greek league faction?
About horses being armoured in their posterior ;) in medieval times it wasn´t uncommon to see horses with full mail covering, or even plate in the late period. How this translates to ancient times I dunnot know. I´m just saying it´s possible (besides it can be only fabric....).
I´ll just lurk around and give my opinion, even when no one asks for it ~D. Just kidding, but if I can help in any way, I will.
Aymar ainda bem que é um português a tratar da Peninsula. Vamos ver como ficam esses Lusitanos :thumbsup:
Now is that sarcastic? You sly little devil you. ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarcasm
Haha, No it isn´t. Or maybe it is. ~;)
https://usera.imagecave.com/PSYCHO/1...Britontats.jpg
British Belgae, by Vercingetrix and PROMETHEUS
Looks good but what about the other check guards? are just for rebels? and what about the other tattoed ones? according to the discussion I had with Ranika when making them this tatto was for the belgae proper while the heavy filled one was for the british....
That paint is fine, the rebels just need LESS paint than the Britons, not necessarily the Britons being totally covered in them (though they're pretty heavily painted anyway).
Also, to my understanding of the word, tattoos are actually placed within the skin, aren't they? And are permanent. What the Britons have on them isn't like that, it's just painted on. However, the Briton Rhyfelwyr would have actual tattoos.
so is a rebel unit not a briton one? and for the word tattoe sorry but since i was making tattoes with henna on summer i refer to them like this .....
No, that skin dispalyed there is the Briton. The rebel will have less paint than that one. The one Pyscho showed with paint is the Briton though
http://img126.exs.cx/img126/5026/for...dsmena2sn9.jpg
So the one I made for the briton on the right wich is more heavily painted is wrong?
Why does their hair colour coordinate? Not all Belgians would have the same hair colour.
Regarding the Thorokitai Argyraspidai, the cheek guards are more to the front of the face.
BTW, they are Argyraspidai (Silver Shields) >>> Shield colour = silver? :wink:
Aymar: the medusa head is silver.
"Silver Shield" isn't the same as "Silver patern on crimson shield".Quote:
Originally Posted by Urnamma
i don't think i'll ever get tired of looking at that unit.. i want to marry it and have it's babies.Quote:
Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
edit: whoot i'm a member now, thx to whoever did that. i want to have your babies too.
I really hate the face masks. Can you plaese take them off, pleeeaaaaaase...!!!
There is no real evidence for it so why keep it?
Because, I DemonArchangel, think it looks cool.