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I sucsessfully have a good map of the whole of Italy, sardinia, corsica and southern gual, its in good working condition, and im perfecting it for my small modification, its looking very good so far, and is perfect for my ITALIA ~ TOTAL WAR and SPARTACUS ~ TOTAL WAR
im more then pleased to perhaps help you out, if we come to some sort of deal,
with the help of monkworrior i enlarged the map,
at the moment its stands at 200 by 200
however, i plan to add even more,
thanks and cheak it out please,
Well I had just envisioned a map covering the same area as yours but set before the First Punic War, with factions as Carthage, Greek Cities, Gauls, Senate and one other Roman faction. It was just an idea, I already have the Sicilian campaign map and the Troy: Total War campaign map to work on at the moment.
Map showing regions and starting positions:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/vingilo...y2/screen4.jpg
Starting cities of Carthage:
-Motya
-Lilybaeum
-Drepana
-Panormus
-Melita
Starting cities of Syracuse:
-Syracuse
-Akrae
-Leontini
-Helorus
-Kamarina
Starting cities of the Siculi:
-Henna
-Engyum
-Motyum
-Inycum
-Paropus
Screens of the actual map to follow as soon as I have sorted out resources...
The western end of the island:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/vingilo...y2/screen5.jpg
Malta:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/vingilo...y2/screen6.jpg
I'm really anxious to play V2 of this mod. I'd never had an interest in the indigenous Sicilian population before, but now I'm fascinted. Don't get too distracted with Troy, there; you have a bit of a fanbase for Sicily growing.
Thankyou Spoonfrog .I Like your map ..it reminds me of V.I expansion because of its size.Its refreshing to see a smaller map for a change unlike most mods.Keep up the good work. ~:cheers: Are you planning on more for this mod? I hope so ~D Has anyone tried this ovr RTR? I ask because i want the units an skins.
Sorry no updates for a while, I am still working on this, I just need prodding into activity every now and again... ~:)
After testing the map as it is, I have found that the gameplay doesnt really get exciting until about 10+ turns in - this is because the factions do not start close enough to each other, so the first few turns are taken up by capturing annoying rebel regions. I think the best way of solving this would be to spread the greek cities' regions out, giving them lots of isolated provinces like in the imperial campaign.
Some more screens:
Current starting position of the greek cities - too bunched in my opinion...
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/vingilo...y2/screen7.jpg
Starting position of Thrace (Siculi)
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/vingilo...y2/screen8.jpg
Mount Etna and some rebel cities
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/vingilo...y2/screen9.jpg
:book: The campaign will start in 410 BC, when Carthage owned just a small section of the island, and Syracuse had influence over almost the whole island. What happened in history was that a city called Segesta and a city called Selinus (both in western Sicily) had a dispute, and each called in powerful allies (Segesta, Carthage and Selinus, Syracuse) to settle the matter. A war between Carthage and Syracuse thus started, which resulted in large parts of western Sicily becoming Carthaginian. :book:
Here are some sites about the history of the war:
http://www.livius.org/sh-si/sicily/sicily03.html#Fifth
http://www.barca.fsnet.co.uk/carthage-sicily.htm
As for new units, all I can do is make campaign maps... If anyone else could bring any other skills such as modelling or skinning to this project it I am happy to work with them, but at the moment the plan is just another mini campaign.
Looking good, spoonfrog :rtwyes:
Bummer. If I had any skinning ability, I'd offer my help...seeing the Sikels was the most exciting part for me.
Does anyone have an ideas as to what the Siculi faction symbols should look like?? I can't really find anything suitable, most sites are in Italian too.
Revamped central Sicily:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/vingilo...2/screen10.jpg
Map is looking very good, and better, now, but I think that you may not have enough elevation change? Due to the increased scale, the spaces seem really big to me, I would suggest adding some more forests to the map southeast.
The oldest symbol of Sicily, I know of, is the Trinacria (Triskelion):
http://www.grifasi-sicilia.com/iltriceledel1932.jpg
I believe this one is from Roman times, with a Godess' face in the center (Demeter?).
Originally it had a Medusa face with the three leg (representing triangular Sicily).
I will dig around for something purely Siculan.
Take a look at this URL, for a Sicanian bull symbol:
http://www.valdikam.it/en/valdikam.htm
It looks like you have many factions that are not implemented. May I suggest that you use them to represent the largest city states not aligned with Carthage, Syracuse, or the Siculi? I don't actually know what city-states were large and independent at the time (heck, I know just about nothing), but I think you should take advantage of the number of factions you have available.
Just an idea, since most mods can only wish for enough factions. A mod of this scope lets you use whole faction slots to represent smaller groups and peoples, and I like the idea.
Can't wait for V2 to come out. :book:
I'm kind of losing motivation for this... I'll be going to France for a week or so but when I get back I'll see what I can do... I'd really need some other people to help - at least a skinner and a coder/text file editor if this can be anything more than just a campaign map.
I really like the idea of the city states, Akragas and some other were certainly very independant at the time.
:help: Anyone who is interested in helping please post here or pm me... :help:
The island of Cossyra (allied of Carthage) was also a naval power in that period, why don't include it?
I just downloaded the map, and I can't play it with the RTW version 1.3 (installed with the installation of Barbarian Invasion). Can someone verify this, or is there something wrong with my installation? ~:confused:
nice...but it is very little.
Bigger isn't always better.Quote:
Originally Posted by al'Callaendor
maybe...or not. :hide:
i just offerd Spoonfrog help with the skins, just hope he chesk's his PM's ~D
ill have a play around and make a faction symbol for the Sikels, SicilianVespers if you could tell me what you think!, ill upload when i have finished it ~;)
EDIT: Here ye goes!! the 128pixel version of the Siculi icon - this is that bull patera thingy SicilianVespers posted, but i added a border and re-scaled it, i tell thee it was hard work :P
https://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b...28-sicicon.jpg
ill start work on the smaller ones in a mo.....
I've tried again, and I still can't get it to work. Perhaps it's an issue with RTW 1.3?? I'm not sure what to do...does anyone have an idea? :dizzy2:
When does the game crash?
I can't even get it to start. Have you tried installing it with RTW 1.3?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good
Can't say that I have, just trying to guess what the problem is.
Does it start up to the point where the little RTW box comes up in the middle of the desktop, then go to the CA credits screen, and then die?
:book:
I can start the game fine, I can actually play every aspect of the game fine except for this Sicilian campaign map. When I start it, then go to select faction, the game just crashes and quits. iuno what the prob. is! :dizzy2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good
There's a problem with playable factions in RTW 1.3. New (vanilla unplayable) factions need entries in a certain file to give them campaign descriptions, or they simply won't work.
I hope this mod picks up speed again. I always liked the idea of it.
What file has to be modified? Do you know?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeonGod
campiagn_descriptions i think, in your data/text folder
at least thats what you need to edit for the all factions mod ~;)
Any update or news with this mod i just liked this mod alot! :sweatdrop: