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Funny, I never thought of Americas founding fathers as religious at all. Rather a product of the Enlightenment and the Age of Man. If the posts above are anything to go by I would guess that my assumption was right.
It does seem rather odd that the Christ message has been twisted and warped in such a manner. Perhaps there are ulterior motives behind this type of rhetoric, it certainly doesn't sound like any 'message' from the Son of God that I ever encountered. It seems part of the problem is that these 'people' dont follow Christs teachings at all, but rather they seem to follow the Judean model of a vengeful and spiteful God...an eye for an eye etc, etc....rather than loving thy neighbour and turning the other cheek. After all a lot of what Christ is purported to have taught is very good karma for those who can practise it.
I suppose that as long as some people feel the need to control others, then this sort of thing will occur.
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I like your proverb Wazikashi :bow:
Religion and Politics should be far far away from each other! That is one of the basics of democracy.
That being said it is my oppinion that anyone has the right to believe in what ever they want, and nobody has the right to criticise that person as long as he shut the hell up and dont ram his Faith down the throut of evryone ells.
After reading the Da Vinci Code (Yes! I KNOW ITS NOT 100% CORRECT!) my personal faith have changed from being agnostic to be a bit pagan-like. I believe that every human should view the sexuality of the human being as sacred, be it between a Man and a Woman, a Woman and a Woman and so on, that doesnt matter!
My god is the nature itself and I pray to her throgh sexual acts. :bow:
man I sound like some really weird pagan madman hahah
cheers ~:cheers:
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It doesnt surprise me this thread was posted by someone living in the UAE. ALLAH AKBAR!! ~:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Don Corleone
I don't think the thread was started as anything other than a good laugh, and I'm sorry if my last post left folks with then intention that I didn't get that. But there's a certain tone to the follow ups, and a lack of balance, that you can almost see folks seething and nodding and saying "Yeah, that's how Christians are...yeah they're all like that".
This is kind of a tough thread to post in without offending anybody.
I can see how moderate conservatives/Christians would be offended by this entire thread, because I would think (hope) that most of you are just as afraid of some of the beliefs being spouted in the link (i.e. AIDS from God, women shouldn't vote, etc...) as us lefties are. And if I were you, I wouldn't want to be painted with the same brush with those freaks either. It would be like a conservative saying that NAMBLA represents mainstream north American liberal values (although, I have heard that very thing hinted at in here before).
The scary thing for me was that many of the people quoted in that link actually do hold positions of power and influence in mainstream America.
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Originally Posted by PanzerJager
It doesnt surprise me this thread was posted by someone living in the UAE. ALLAH AKBAR!! ~:rolleyes:
Nor does it surprise me that you would pick that out while alluding to the person's religious beliefs in an obviously demeaning way.
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Originally Posted by PanzerJager
It doesnt surprise me this thread was posted by someone living in the UAE. ALLAH AKBAR!! ~:rolleyes:
and.... it doesnt suprise You posted something like this. ~;p
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It doesn't surprise me that this thread - which was meant to be tongue in cheek - went down the pan ~:handball:
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Agreed Templar. I figured it would get nasty from both people of the political specrtum.
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Originally Posted by Lazul
...my personal faith have changed from being agnostic to be a bit pagan-like. [...] be it between a Man and a Woman, a Woman and a Woman and so on, that doesnt matter!
My god is the nature itself and I pray to her throgh sexual acts.
~:cheers: A most sensible Norseman if there ever was one.
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Nor does it surprise me that you would pick that out while alluding to the person's religious beliefs in an obviously demeaning way.
Do you fail to grasp the irony in your own words or are you being coy? ~:confused:
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This is kind of a tough thread to post in without offending anybody.
I can see how moderate conservatives/Christians would be offended by this entire thread, because I would think (hope) that most of you are just as afraid of some of the beliefs being spouted in the link (i.e. AIDS from God, women shouldn't vote, etc...) as us lefties are. And if I were you, I wouldn't want to be painted with the same brush with those freaks either. It would be like a conservative saying that NAMBLA represents mainstream north American liberal values (although, I have heard that very thing hinted at in here before).
The scary thing for me was that many of the people quoted in that link actually do hold positions of power and influence in mainstream America.
You are right, Goof. I think the majority of the people on that site are wackos or nuts.
Though I don't know for sure, I suspect that the wackiness of the quotes are indirectly proportional to the amount of influence they have. IE the worst quotes come from people I've never heard of.
And anyone who doesn't support military vets isn't conservative in my book. Neither are white supremacists. They also aren't Christians. And Joe MacCarthy is dead for goodness sake!
I found this little comment by the site to be kind of insightful.
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Interesting perspective coming from someone who's President was appointed by a group of "unelected judges", thus overturning a democratic election.
They obviously haven't grasped what happened in Florida.
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"If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual [Gay] sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything!" - Rick Santorum
He's right.
That quote from Savage has made me change my opinion of him. I knew he was edgy from a book he wrote, but. That just takes the cake. :help:
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Funny stuff, until you realize they are serious.
ichi :bow:
Right, this is the kind of stuff you would expect from cartoons, not political leaders
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This is why we have democracies, so that we can get rid of the pollies.
People are entitled to their opinions. What I disagree with in a multiculutural society is forcing your opinion on others. Some of those quoted stated that they would force particular ideas on others. Others quoted had differences of opinion but no malice to make others believe what they believed.
On the whole though it is a good thing to read and then to put into context. A small sample of quotes from a small section of society can make you upset/angry/laugh but at the same time you probably realise this is not the normal behaviour for that society. It then also informs us of the very limited information we get from media sound bites, our opinions on other societies that we are not very familiar with will be very quickly based on a small selection of information. We can quickly have our emotions lead down a certain path as the media plays up a story.
Caesar may have beat a drum, the modern media has a symphony orchestra to lead us along.
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Originally Posted by Goofball
I can see how moderate conservatives/Christians would be offended by this entire thread, because I would think (hope) that most of you are just as afraid of some of the beliefs being spouted in the link (i.e. AIDS from God, women shouldn't vote, etc...) as us lefties are.
Afraid? Not really.. disgusted by some maybe, I don't think any of the kooks quoted are a threat. They and their followers are few in number and the majority of Americans see them for what they are.
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The scary thing for me was that many of the people quoted in that link actually do hold positions of power and influence in mainstream America.
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Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good
I suspect that the wackiness of the quotes are indirectly proportional to the amount of influence they have.
I'm with him on that.
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After some of the recent posts (I am not referring to the very last ones) it seems that this thread reached the end of it's life-cycle and is starting to take the first steps into a direction we probably to not want to explore further.
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