QED??????? sorry, i'm confused...Quote:
Originally Posted by JAG
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QED??????? sorry, i'm confused...Quote:
Originally Posted by JAG
QED=quad erat demonstrandum, latin for 'that which was to be demonstated'Quote:
Originally Posted by ian_of_smeg16
God saves the queen hum? yeah love that song!
God save the queen
The fascist regime
They made you a moron
Potential H-bomb
God save the queen
She aint no human being
There is no future
In England's dreaming
Don't be told what you want
Don't be told what you need
There's no future no future
No future for you
God save the queen
We mean it man
We love our queen
God saves
God save the queen
'Cos tourists are money
Our figures head
Is not what she seems
Oh god save history
God save your mad parade
Oh lord god have mercy
All crimes are paid
When there's no future
How can there be sin
We're the flowers in the dustbin
We're the poison in your human machine
We're the future you're future
God save the queen
We mean it man
We love our queen
God saves
God save the queen
We mean it man
And there is no future
In England's dreaming
No future no future
No future for you
No future no future
No future for me
No future no future
No future for you
No future no future
No future for you
No future no future for you
wtf?
That's gotta be somebody's parallel that doesn't want you British folks to track him down & lynch him. ~D
Actually, in rereading it, I think that's an old Sex Pistols tune.
Sex pistols...but of t***s
Sex Pistols suck, IMHO.
oh well can you do it better yourslef young man!? now go to you're room!
Ohw wth it just came to my mind, no punk fan hum? ohwell atleast it's better then nowadays punk. Blink 128 yeah right. the ramones are much better anyway; lets go!
Yeah, don't like punk. Though it is better than non rock music, of course. ~;)
But Ian, you're also an idiot, man. And you've got ginger hair. Never forget that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ian_of_smeg16
By the way, I know Ian personally and my patriotic singing drowned his English dirge out that day! If you English want a proper national anthem, go for Land of Hope and Glory. God Save the Queen sucks (gawd, the Sex Pistols' version is better). In the mean time:
Oh land of our birth,
Oh gem of God's earth,
Oh Island so strong and so fair,
Built firm as Barrule,
Thy throne of home rule,
Makes us free as the sweet mountain air...
and hold that last note til your lungs burst
Land of Hope and Glory is much better than God Save the Queen, especially since it has bits about the Empire in it. Much better tune as well, and it is less French
Well i can say for myself that im patriot. In the greek sense of word. I love my country. I dont care about goverment (the last 1000 years it sucks), i love my country. The clima, our blue (bluest i saw ever) sky, the beaches, the people, our food (try it you will remember me) and above all our heritage. I feel so proud about our contribution to world civilization. EVERYBODY knows something about greece, greek words are EVERYWHERE, great greek scientists, schollars and artists are widely known, the very alphabet we use is greek and the so called western mentality. I absolutely adore ancient relics lying around me, i love the feel of drinking cofee in the very place where Agora was and all athenians where discussing. Everytime i drive home down Peireos avenue no matter how tired i am, when i look through the gaps of modern buildings the hill and Acropolis on top i just cant stop that smile. I feel so proud everytime im abroad and people hearing im greek saying ''oh really? thats so nice!''.
I remember when i was in east Ukraine visiting friends, they had a celebration. I asked what was the occassion and my friend replied that it was 70 years anniversary of funding of their city. After she asked ''How many years before your city was founded?'' well i couldnt stop laughing and said, i dont really know exact date but around 10000 years. I realised how much impressed she was and also realised that the fact that it was common to me it amazed other people.
Im patriotic but not nationalistic. I respect other people's cultures and i dont believe im superior to anybody. Offcourse if im provoked by false propaganda or ignorant comments i almost always take offence and feel obligated to remind some stuff to people with far less cultural background and big tongue :duel:
PS by the way disrespecting other people's national celebrations and anthems is a stupid and rude act that can get you sometimes in very difficult position. Like having your head kicked around for example... ~D
And then communism happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by edyzmedieval
Keep up the good fight! Europe will one day wake up from the anti-nationalism that spawned out of ww2.. Sweden is a country to be proud of. ~;)Quote:
Last year I started in a new class and when my classmates heard I was a nationalist some directly asked if I were a nazist/rascist. It´s so taboo here in Sweden to be proud of your country! Sad indeed...
I would say fairly patriotic. Don't know how that's measured though.
What, even the sixth verse? (no longer used)Quote:
Originally Posted by Axeknight
Lord grant that Marshal Wade
May by thy mighty aid
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush,
And like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush.
God save the Queen!
You can tell the lyrics aren't the originals when the song was composed; it sounds so... 'adapted,' so artificial. Plus it's downbeat, dirge-y music anyway. I mean, even the French have a better national anthem, La Marseilleise (sp? a while since I did any French) is a real rollicker of a tune.
Hey, the Beatles use that song at the beggining of All you Need is Love.
I am not very "Patriotic". I equate "Patriotism" with "Nationalism", which I am against. I have lived in three countries and consider myself a citizen of the world first, a citizen of a city second and a citizen of a country third. Others may have a different order
^ I partially agree about being a citizen of the world. I see a difference in patriotism vs jingoism and nationalism... although the later two invariably hide under the cloak of patriotism much as KKK hide under otherwise useful bedsheets.
You had to bring my hair into this....for the last time its STRAWBERRY BLONDE!!! Anyway one day the gingers will rule the world and we'll MAKE you be patriotic....Quote:
Originally Posted by Axeknight
plus i'd like to refer to my earlier post where i said i like the isle of man, and i didnt mean to disrespect it? Axeknight? did you actually sing in that assembly, it seemed like only the head and a couple of year7's were singing...and who are you axeknight? i think i have an idea cos there is only two peole that play totalwar games in our school
Unfortunately it's much the same in England. I wouldn't describe myself as a nationalist, but I am proud of my country and its many traditions and sucesses. I'm always behind the England team in any modern warfare event (sport) and always back any project that will peacefully enhance our position on the world stage such as the 2012 Olympics.Quote:
Last year I started in a new class and when my classmates heard I was a nationalist some directly asked if I were a nazist/rascist. It´s so taboo here in Sweden to be proud of your country! Sad indeed...
When it comes to the English / British issue, I feel I am both. I feel there is a mutual sense of common national purpose amongst the countries within Great Britain. I feel an English parliament will be made necessary though in the future, as it is clearly unjust for the Scottish parliament to be able to make decisions that affect England and then make contrary decisions for Scotland.
When it comes to the British / European issue, I do not feel European. I do not detect a common goal or purpose with many of the other EU nations and I don't like being banded together as one group with them. Much of continental Europe is far too socialist for my liking and their desire to impose their (in my opinion inferiror) economic model on Britain is not for the best. I still love the peoples of the other EU nations though. In particular the Germans, Dutch and Scandinavians. I also have great respect for their traditions and customs, but I do not want a culturally harmoised Europe, because then there would be no fun be in going abroad.
Rule Britannia.
Can you explain that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Al Khalifah
:bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Al Khalifah
I knww I was right. Everybody loves Germans! ~:wave:
Britain has a much more liberal economic policy than continental Europe does. Businesses have much more freedom and less restriction. They are also encouraged to be more competitive.
The European model is much more social. Workers rights are more highly valued and there is more regulation on business. Taxes are often higher too.
The Common Agricultural Policy is an example of this at work. The widely differing EU budget net contribution/benefits of members states too. This seems to harm competition. I guess it's not so much a desire to enforce their policy on us, rather a case of, we joined a club where everyone plays by some different rules to our own.
And yes everyone does love the Germans. Try as hard as we might, we can't help but keep forgiving and liking again.
I like the Germans...i also like the dutch for......undisclosed reasons concerning certain laws and hmmmm allowances....dont like the portugueses (at least not the footbal team) after that football match in which ENGLAND shoulda won....i like russia also, if only outa fear that if i didnt like them, they'll get me..
Gimme more!
Why do you like Germans? I always had the impression that the Brits are still fighting WW2.
My first loyalty is to my family, then my close friends then country, so no I'm not very patriotic but if I was I'm Scottish before I'm British.
You know who I am. And this is the first time in ages I've been to this site, and just to annoy you. Hah! I know the screen name's a naff one, but I ain't too imaginative so I picked the first historical-looking word I found out of a guitar magazine.Quote:
Originally Posted by ian_of_smeg16
What's your MSN, man?
I consider my self patriotic.I love my country and if i must im willing to die for it.I dont consider myself as an Nationalist though.If people are willing to move in this country to work and to prosper i wellcome anyone no matter what culture they come from.While there are only 5 million people in my country,im not worried about our culture vanishing.If it didnt vanish in 500 hundred years under Swedish occupation or 200 hundred years under Russian occupation why would it vanish now? :bow:
It's not that it is no longer used, it is that it was removed from the song entirely a few years after it was written. A besides, General Wade wasn't so bad, his roads revolutionised travel in the highlands. Only joking, I hate him...Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcellus
And besides, there are not too many rebellious Scots left in Scotland...
I don't know where you learned that about the Scottish Parliament, but it cannot do anything in England. It cannot even change taxes in Scotland (except Council Tax, but that is different). The reason that England doesn't have devolution is because the then and current government relies on its Scottish MPs to make a majority in Parliament, so Tories would control a devolved English Assembly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Al Khalifah