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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
anti-pc i agree with...but not conservative.
i hate PC over the top crap also but i´m not a conservative in any sense of the word...
if i had to choose a funny conservative guy i´d go with Ron White....i might not agree with his political stances....but the guy is funny as hell...
You laugh with a comic, not at one.
Jon Stewart makes sense, that's what makes him funny. He makes too much sense, it's amazing that he's only a "fake" news man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Ann coulter spouts lies and platitudes all over the place in this uncotrollable way, it's nowhere near as witty or *true* as Jon Stewart.
And no South Park is not conservative, it's a mix. Lebertarian I think it's called, you should know Gawain, you claim to be one.
I guess her and the papignion wearing guy are supposed to be funny because they are offensive and soooo over the top. Where is my freaken award for funniest member then?!?!?! :laugh2:
Seriously, I should be pretty funny to you guys. I'm sure some of you LMAO at some of my statements, but all you do is condemn me.
It's called prejudice. ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince
They can't accept you as funny as long as you're not one of them.
South Park is funny. Ron White is funny (have you ever taken a crap so big your pants fit better?). Bill Hicks was funny (best comedian ever, if you can find one of his 4 CD's - buy it). Jon Stewart is funny. Even Rush Limbaugh is funny - occasionally, though not often (He was funnier when he was still addicted to oxycontin ~D). They are all entertainers who use humor to comment on social and political issues. They don't claim to be anything else, even Limbaugh (although his Dittoheads don't get that part).
Ann Coulter, or Andy or whatever, is just sad and pathetic. She isn't a satirist. She isn't a comedian. She doesn't bill herself as such. She isn't presented as an entertainer. She's presented as a right-wing pundit who "knows" something. She's presented as an expert commentator on issues. She spouts nonsense as the truth, and the gullible eat it up.
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Originally Posted by Slyspy
The Stooges, Harpo, Emmett Kelly, Laurel and Hardy, and Buster Keaton all run counter to your point.
Drama is when granny's wheelchair rolls wildly to the edge of the cliff and just misses going over -- in comedy she drops.
~:)
Seamus
Lol, dont you lefties see that you're just playing her game?
The more you work yourself into a frenzy and feel the need to proclaim her "unfunny", the funnier it is to me and Gawain and other conservatives.
You guys get in such a mood whenever Coulter is mentioned, and thats just what she sets out to do. ~D
We conservatives are just laughing at how serious you take some powerless woman who says outrageous things. Its almost like youre intimidated or something. :laugh4:
Powerless PJ you know thats bull shes a poster child for the "stupid fat american" she may not carry much power politicly but shes a bad image and by god she is not a comedian and comes off like a spoiled brat every time some one refutes one of her many dumb and zealous points
"We conservatives", eh? What are you some kind of special breed of human, or are you somekind of ideologists? As far as I can see Bush can be just as stupid and offensive as Coulter. Is he a joke to you conservatives as well? ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJager
Youre the only one who seems to think she has any sway with anyone. Who are all these people she commands? ~:confused:Quote:
Powerless PJ you know thats bull
Your inability to make a post without attempting to insult her is quite telling. Theres nothig to be afraid of, no one but anxious libs - and Strike - take her seriously down here. ~;)Quote:
"We conservatives", eh? What are you some kind of special breed of human, or are you somekind of ideologists? As far as I can see Bush can be just as stupid and offensive as Coulter. Is he a joke to you conservatives as well?
Then I suggest you go see an optomitrist.Quote:
As far as I can see Bush can be just as stupid and offensive as Coulter.
He identified than as those who think like himself and I. Ill not speak fotr Panzer but yes I have a conservative idealogy as do most members of the Conservtive club I believe. Thats what seperates from liberals. Were proud of our ideaology.Quote:
"We conservatives", eh? What are you some kind of special breed of human, or are you somekind of ideologists?
Hes made me laugh on more than one occassion.Quote:
Is he a joke to you conservatives as well?
Yeah but to ourselves and in our pms we are still laughing our a$$es off. ~DQuote:
Seriously, I should be pretty funny to you guys. I'm sure some of you LMAO at some of my statements, but all you do is condemn me.
Who?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Hmm.. I see, your pride is great, just like our president George W. Bush's. May I remind you that pride is a double-edged sword, and that right now, that pride, especially that of the president's, is cutting and harming everyone and everything but the real enemy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
So you also think he's absolutely ridiculous on more than one occasion. Good to know. ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Hehe, I hadnt heard that one... classic Texan attitude. ~DQuote:
We're in for a long struggle, and I think Texans understand that. And so do Americans.
Bush has made me laugh too, far more than Ann Coulter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
So true, maybe it was a Freudian slip? He's very good at those little slips of the tongue that ring more true than what he probably meant to say. Like this:Quote:
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we," he said. "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." Washington, D.C. 08.05.04
Or how about his mangling of common expressions?Quote:
"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --George W. Bush, Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005
I knew Bush liked getting campaign funds from Ob/Gyn's, but I didn't realize he thinks many of them really "love" their work!Quote:
"Free societies are hopeful societies. And free societies will be allies against these hateful few who have no conscience, who kill at the whim of a hat." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 17, 2004
English as a second language - for Bush, anyway:Quote:
"Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB/GYN's aren't able to practice their love with women all across the country." --George W. Bush, Sept. 6, 2004, Poplar Bluff, Mo.
What?Quote:
"I want to thank you for the importance that you've shown for education and literacy." --G.W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 13, 2005
One of my personal favorites:
Apparently, it wasn't just recently that children were being passed from grade to grade without learning the basics, such as how to use the plural form of words like child. Where did this goober go to school?Quote:
"Perhaps the biggest problem is that we have passed children from grade to grade, year after year, and those -- child hadn't learned the basics of reading and math." --Washington, D.C., Jan. 8, 2003
And how can we forget the funniest and most jaw-droppingly ignorant speech ever given by our glorious leader?
Fool me once mp3
Yes, he's much funnier than Ann Coulter. And much scarier.
Haha. I didn't know how to reply to Gawain for saying that I need to see the optometrist, because frankly, I think it's pretty obvious to everyone BUT conservatives how stupid George Bush really is. I mean this guy is like the Homer Simpson of American politics. The complete caricature of a dumbass.
Gawain; Panzer; rebuttle?
Oh and one more thing, if people take Bush seriously, I'm absolutely convinced they take Coulter seriously as well. She's just more arrogant in her rhetoric.
Well lets see. He graduated from Yale, owned his own baseball team, and is president of the worlds greatest superpower. What have you done with your life BP. ~;)Quote:
Gawain; Panzer; rebuttle?
Some of the best minds in human history werent good public speakers, and some of the worst minds in human history were.. dont judge a book by its cover.
Bush...some of the best minds in human history?
Oh, I'm fainting! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Edit: Oh well, politicians are (on both sides) among the worst of us anyway. This can you agree, Panzer?
Nobody but you said he was a genius.
If rich influential daddies got you elected president, how come the only other father-son presidential duo was in the late 1700s or early 1800s?
Bush Sr. isnt even that influencial. He was a one term president that split the republican party and allowed Clinton in. I personally believe he was a much better president than the current Bush, or Clinton, but many dont think very highly of him.
I know little of internal policies of USA, but has Bush done something good, or marvelous? I think that this is what really serves to judge him, the things he may say in public doesn't talk about the politician in all the picture, it just show us the demagoge.
So in your eyes success in life shows merit? Now who's being naive. :rollseyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJager
I could make the same argument about Stalin.
That's what politicians DO. The speak! If you can't even speak properly or are too incompetent to do so, why would anyone that knows that vote for you!?!?Quote:
Some of the best minds in human history werent good public speakers, and some of the worst minds in human history were.. dont judge a book by its cover.
No I'm not judging the book by it's cover. Clinton was better looking then Bush anyways. ~D
Kerry on the other hand... hmmm... not so much.
I think I read in a thread somewhere that you are still quite young, but if so, you are quite wise for your age. Well said. :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by strike for the south
I had thought about commenting earlier in this thread, but enjoyed watching folks blow off some light hearted steam. I've gotta say, Jon Stewart rocks. While his emphasis is hard on the conservatives, he does direct his fire both ways. This is not O'Reilly, or Limbaugh. Most importantly, he is funny. And I get a kick out of the "Redneck" comics on Comedy Central too...
It's not that difficult actually. I know some Yale grads. Don't confuse money and influence for intelligence.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJager
How exactly did he get the money for that? Which of his previous business failures provided the cash? Wasn't he mainly a "face" for the real money?Quote:
, owned his own baseball team,
It's amazing what family connections will do compared to talent. Look at the Taft family for example...Quote:
and is president of the worlds greatest superpower.
And from a senior member :jumping: :jumping: :jumping: ~DQuote:
Originally Posted by Red Harvest
or the kenedysQuote:
Originally Posted by Red Harvest
the roosevelts
the adams
the rockafellers
As for owning his own baseball team, well...
He had a minority stake in the team, which he purchased with borrowed money. He was sort of a mascot, being named managing partner in spite of having one of the smallest financial stakes in the company. They used him for his name and stuck him in the front office so he could go to games and pick his nose on camera (don't make me dig up that lovely video ~D ) When the team was sold to Texas billionaire Tom Hicks, Bush made his first profit - ever - in business. In spite of having been on the board of directors or president of 5 previous companies - all of which failed. ~D
What did Hicks get out of buying the team for inflated prices, while Bush was governor, making Bush a multi-millionaire while he was governor? Not much, except massive tax concessions. But he'd already been getting richer. When Dubya became governor, Hicks who was one of his leading campaign contributers was appointed to run UTIMCO, the University of Texas Investment Management Company which was formerly called the Permanent University Fund. It is the monetary fund established by the state to partially fund the state universities. The fund gets its money from the Permian basin oil field deposits which just happen to lie under land granted to the PUF/UTIMCO by the state legislature. As chairman of UTIMCO. Hicks was in charge of deciding who received lucrative investment contracts from the fund - and proceeded to dole them out to all of his rich buddies and Bush's campaign contributors, like the guy who loaned Bush the money to buy his stake in the team in the first place. It's all one big happy circle of cronyism and slurping at the public trough. ~D When the Houston Chronicle newspaper exposed the dirty laundry at UTIMCO in 1999, Hicks had to resign. ~:)
No, you really couldnt. Stalin gained his success through killing other people.Quote:
So in your eyes success in life shows merit? Now who's being naive. :rollseyes:
I could make the same argument about Stalin.
Because smart people realize public speaking ability does not denote intelligence.Quote:
That's what politicians DO. The speak! If you can't even speak properly or are too incompetent to do so, why would anyone that knows that vote for you!?!?
Last time I checked the CIA does not elect presidents.. unless you buy into some of the Kennedy conspiracy theories.Quote:
Bush Sr. was in charge of the CIA during some of it's more prolific activities. He has alot of influence.
Oh and Red, if its so easy to do what GW has done, why are you here posting on this forum instead of addressing the Senate?
The point is his dad had powerful friends in powerful places that can be very helpfulQuote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJager
What does that have to do with anything the senate elects the presdinit just as much as the cia does face it pj GW would still be drilling for oil in odessa if he didnt have a rich daddyQuote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJager
Couple of reasons:Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJager
1. I've got more ethics than that, a terrible affliction that I'm finding might be incurable. :no: If I could let my ethics go I could become wealthy off of what I find personally unethical, but apparently legal.
2. I don't have the family connections. Born poor and white, haven't had any coat tails to ride, nor much of a support network. Doing better than any of my ancestors though, so I'm satisfied. ~;)
3. I don't aspire to it. See #1. I'm what you might call a "reluctant leader" I take up leadership only when there is a crisis or I find that I'm the best suited for a critical task. I'm there when needed, advising otherwise. Power doesn't turn me on I guess.
That is such a ridiculous thing to say. There are plenty of people with fathers who are much richer than GHWB who cannot make it in politics. Youre acting as if youre trying to compensate for the fact that you wont be as successful as GWB by saying its all his father's doing.Quote:
What does that have to do with anything the senate elects the presdinit just as much as the cia does face it pj GW would still be drilling for oil in odessa if he didnt have a rich daddy
Not even Reagan would have had the clout to get his son elected if he didnt have some initiative and intelligence of his own. A measely one term president whose own party abandoned him would have a hard time masterminding GWB's election victories.
Or, maybe the powers that be within the Republican party found GHWB much too independent and intelligent for their liking and decided that using a convenient dolt with the same last name for recognition would really be better. Enter the man I like to call... a sock puppet in a president suit. ~;)
Yes im said because my daddy isn't rich :embarassed: you've found me out PJ I have something agisant rich people ~:handball: don't get me wrong bush has done some great things but saying he'd be in the oval office without his dad is insaneQuote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJager